On 2/11/2016 11:47 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 11 Feb 2016 06:51:04 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 2/11/16 2:00 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

So, who won the NH Democratic primary? One would think that Bernie won,
having received 60 percent of the vote.

Not so, it seems. The DNC doesn't want Bernie so they have
manipulated the delegate count by apply their "super delegates" votes
in favor of Hillary. Basically, the DNC is saying, "Screw you voters
... *we* will decide who becomes the Democratic nominee."

What is a "superdelegate" you ask?

Superdelegates are political insiders. They consist of state officials,
national officials, Democratic (in this case) Committee members and
others with "special" interests in a specific candidate.
They can cast their vote any way they want to regardless of who wins the
popular vote.

A Democratic candidate needs 2,382 total delegates to win the
nomination. Of those, 712 are superdelegates. Hillary, despite a
virtual tie with Sanders in Iowa and a major popular vote loss in NH,
still is far ahead of Sanders in committed delegates. She currently has
394 delegates compared to 44 for Bernie. 360 of Hillary's delegates are
"superdelegates".

This is a joke and a mockery of what are supposed to be elections
determined by voters. The DNC will decide who their candidate is.



"Superdelegates" have long been a contentious issue within the party,
and came about to help prevent the nomination of a candidate who might
have been popular but believed to be an impending disaster in the
electoral college. I'm not sure how significant superdelegate status is
these days because of changes in the rules, but superdelegates still
have some status.

Too bad the GOP hasn't some way to at least steer its nominating
processes, considering the party's likely POTUS candidate will be an
absolutely crazy mutt.

Now that Sharpton has endorsed Bernie, I wonder if he will call the
DNC racist?


I'm sure that since Bernie has opened up the avenue to discuss racism,
you'll likely see HRC and racism mentioned in the same sentence.

On Thu, 11 Feb 2016 12:10:53 -0500, Justan Olphart
wrote:

On 2/11/2016 11:47 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 11 Feb 2016 06:51:04 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 2/11/16 2:00 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

So, who won the NH Democratic primary? One would think that Bernie won,
having received 60 percent of the vote.

Not so, it seems. The DNC doesn't want Bernie so they have
manipulated the delegate count by apply their "super delegates" votes
in favor of Hillary. Basically, the DNC is saying, "Screw you voters
... *we* will decide who becomes the Democratic nominee."

What is a "superdelegate" you ask?

Superdelegates are political insiders. They consist of state officials,
national officials, Democratic (in this case) Committee members and
others with "special" interests in a specific candidate.
They can cast their vote any way they want to regardless of who wins the
popular vote.

A Democratic candidate needs 2,382 total delegates to win the
nomination. Of those, 712 are superdelegates. Hillary, despite a
virtual tie with Sanders in Iowa and a major popular vote loss in NH,
still is far ahead of Sanders in committed delegates. She currently has
394 delegates compared to 44 for Bernie. 360 of Hillary's delegates are
"superdelegates".

This is a joke and a mockery of what are supposed to be elections
determined by voters. The DNC will decide who their candidate is.



"Superdelegates" have long been a contentious issue within the party,
and came about to help prevent the nomination of a candidate who might
have been popular but believed to be an impending disaster in the
electoral college. I'm not sure how significant superdelegate status is
these days because of changes in the rules, but superdelegates still
have some status.

Too bad the GOP hasn't some way to at least steer its nominating
processes, considering the party's likely POTUS candidate will be an
absolutely crazy mutt.

Now that Sharpton has endorsed Bernie, I wonder if he will call the
DNC racist?


I'm sure that since Bernie has opened up the avenue to discuss racism,
you'll likely see HRC and racism mentioned in the same sentence.

It is already there CNN's black advocate (Van Jones) was calling the
Clintons to task on the massive black incarceration rate prompted by
Clinton's crime bill and the 100,000 new cops on the beat. Van pretty
much said it was a racist policy.

(Erin Burnett last night)

On 2/11/2016 11:47 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 11 Feb 2016 06:51:04 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 2/11/16 2:00 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

So, who won the NH Democratic primary? One would think that Bernie won,
having received 60 percent of the vote.

Not so, it seems. The DNC doesn't want Bernie so they have
manipulated the delegate count by apply their "super delegates" votes
in favor of Hillary. Basically, the DNC is saying, "Screw you voters
... *we* will decide who becomes the Democratic nominee."

What is a "superdelegate" you ask?

Superdelegates are political insiders. They consist of state officials,
national officials, Democratic (in this case) Committee members and
others with "special" interests in a specific candidate.
They can cast their vote any way they want to regardless of who wins the
popular vote.

A Democratic candidate needs 2,382 total delegates to win the
nomination. Of those, 712 are superdelegates. Hillary, despite a
virtual tie with Sanders in Iowa and a major popular vote loss in NH,
still is far ahead of Sanders in committed delegates. She currently has
394 delegates compared to 44 for Bernie. 360 of Hillary's delegates are
"superdelegates".

This is a joke and a mockery of what are supposed to be elections
determined by voters. The DNC will decide who their candidate is.



"Superdelegates" have long been a contentious issue within the party,
and came about to help prevent the nomination of a candidate who might
have been popular but believed to be an impending disaster in the
electoral college. I'm not sure how significant superdelegate status is
these days because of changes in the rules, but superdelegates still
have some status.

Too bad the GOP hasn't some way to at least steer its nominating
processes, considering the party's likely POTUS candidate will be an
absolutely crazy mutt.

Now that Sharpton has endorsed Bernie, I wonder if he will call the
DNC racist?


Did Big Al actually endorse Bernie? I saw an interview with Al shortly
after their meeting. Al said that Bernie had to offer more specific
plans in his agenda related to the interests of minorities before he
could consider endorsing him.

On 2/11/16 12:54 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/11/2016 11:47 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 11 Feb 2016 06:51:04 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 2/11/16 2:00 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

So, who won the NH Democratic primary? One would think that Bernie
won,
having received 60 percent of the vote.

Not so, it seems. The DNC doesn't want Bernie so they have
manipulated the delegate count by apply their "super delegates" votes
in favor of Hillary. Basically, the DNC is saying, "Screw you voters
... *we* will decide who becomes the Democratic nominee."

What is a "superdelegate" you ask?

Superdelegates are political insiders. They consist of state officials,
national officials, Democratic (in this case) Committee members and
others with "special" interests in a specific candidate.
They can cast their vote any way they want to regardless of who wins
the
popular vote.

A Democratic candidate needs 2,382 total delegates to win the
nomination. Of those, 712 are superdelegates. Hillary, despite a
virtual tie with Sanders in Iowa and a major popular vote loss in NH,
still is far ahead of Sanders in committed delegates. She currently
has
394 delegates compared to 44 for Bernie. 360 of Hillary's delegates
are
"superdelegates".

This is a joke and a mockery of what are supposed to be elections
determined by voters. The DNC will decide who their candidate is.



"Superdelegates" have long been a contentious issue within the party,
and came about to help prevent the nomination of a candidate who might
have been popular but believed to be an impending disaster in the
electoral college. I'm not sure how significant superdelegate status is
these days because of changes in the rules, but superdelegates still
have some status.

Too bad the GOP hasn't some way to at least steer its nominating
processes, considering the party's likely POTUS candidate will be an
absolutely crazy mutt.

Now that Sharpton has endorsed Bernie, I wonder if he will call the
DNC racist?


Did Big Al actually endorse Bernie? I saw an interview with Al shortly
after their meeting. Al said that Bernie had to offer more specific
plans in his agenda related to the interests of minorities before he
could consider endorsing him.



I didn't see where Sharpton endorsed anyone. He and Bernie had breakfast
and a nice meeting.

On Thu, 11 Feb 2016 12:54:45 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 2/11/2016 11:47 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 11 Feb 2016 06:51:04 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 2/11/16 2:00 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

So, who won the NH Democratic primary? One would think that Bernie won,
having received 60 percent of the vote.

Not so, it seems. The DNC doesn't want Bernie so they have
manipulated the delegate count by apply their "super delegates" votes
in favor of Hillary. Basically, the DNC is saying, "Screw you voters
... *we* will decide who becomes the Democratic nominee."

What is a "superdelegate" you ask?

Superdelegates are political insiders. They consist of state officials,
national officials, Democratic (in this case) Committee members and
others with "special" interests in a specific candidate.
They can cast their vote any way they want to regardless of who wins the
popular vote.

A Democratic candidate needs 2,382 total delegates to win the
nomination. Of those, 712 are superdelegates. Hillary, despite a
virtual tie with Sanders in Iowa and a major popular vote loss in NH,
still is far ahead of Sanders in committed delegates. She currently has
394 delegates compared to 44 for Bernie. 360 of Hillary's delegates are
"superdelegates".

This is a joke and a mockery of what are supposed to be elections
determined by voters. The DNC will decide who their candidate is.



"Superdelegates" have long been a contentious issue within the party,
and came about to help prevent the nomination of a candidate who might
have been popular but believed to be an impending disaster in the
electoral college. I'm not sure how significant superdelegate status is
these days because of changes in the rules, but superdelegates still
have some status.

Too bad the GOP hasn't some way to at least steer its nominating
processes, considering the party's likely POTUS candidate will be an
absolutely crazy mutt.

Now that Sharpton has endorsed Bernie, I wonder if he will call the
DNC racist?


Did Big Al actually endorse Bernie? I saw an interview with Al shortly
after their meeting. Al said that Bernie had to offer more specific
plans in his agenda related to the interests of minorities before he
could consider endorsing him.


It wasn't really an endorsement but certainly there is interest. I
made the mistake of believing the TV folks before I actually heard
what he said. Sorry for any confusion.
I imagine Al has not been promised his pay off yet. This man is "pay
to play".

On 2/11/2016 12:54 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/11/2016 11:47 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 11 Feb 2016 06:51:04 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 2/11/16 2:00 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

So, who won the NH Democratic primary? One would think that Bernie
won,
having received 60 percent of the vote.

Not so, it seems. The DNC doesn't want Bernie so they have
manipulated the delegate count by apply their "super delegates" votes
in favor of Hillary. Basically, the DNC is saying, "Screw you voters
... *we* will decide who becomes the Democratic nominee."

What is a "superdelegate" you ask?

Superdelegates are political insiders. They consist of state officials,
national officials, Democratic (in this case) Committee members and
others with "special" interests in a specific candidate.
They can cast their vote any way they want to regardless of who wins
the
popular vote.

A Democratic candidate needs 2,382 total delegates to win the
nomination. Of those, 712 are superdelegates. Hillary, despite a
virtual tie with Sanders in Iowa and a major popular vote loss in NH,
still is far ahead of Sanders in committed delegates. She currently
has
394 delegates compared to 44 for Bernie. 360 of Hillary's delegates
are
"superdelegates".

This is a joke and a mockery of what are supposed to be elections
determined by voters. The DNC will decide who their candidate is.



"Superdelegates" have long been a contentious issue within the party,
and came about to help prevent the nomination of a candidate who might
have been popular but believed to be an impending disaster in the
electoral college. I'm not sure how significant superdelegate status is
these days because of changes in the rules, but superdelegates still
have some status.

Too bad the GOP hasn't some way to at least steer its nominating
processes, considering the party's likely POTUS candidate will be an
absolutely crazy mutt.

Now that Sharpton has endorsed Bernie, I wonder if he will call the
DNC racist?


Did Big Al actually endorse Bernie? I saw an interview with Al shortly
after their meeting. Al said that Bernie had to offer more specific
plans in his agenda related to the interests of minorities before he
could consider endorsing him.


IOW big Al has his arm stretched out with palm up, as usual.

Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/11/16 2:00 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

So, who won the NH Democratic primary? One would think that Bernie won,
having received 60 percent of the vote.

Not so, it seems. The DNC doesn't want Bernie so they have
manipulated the delegate count by apply their "super delegates" votes
in favor of Hillary. Basically, the DNC is saying, "Screw you voters
... *we* will decide who becomes the Democratic nominee."

What is a "superdelegate" you ask?

Superdelegates are political insiders. They consist of state officials,
national officials, Democratic (in this case) Committee members and
others with "special" interests in a specific candidate.
They can cast their vote any way they want to regardless of who wins the
popular vote.

A Democratic candidate needs 2,382 total delegates to win the
nomination. Of those, 712 are superdelegates. Hillary, despite a
virtual tie with Sanders in Iowa and a major popular vote loss in NH,
still is far ahead of Sanders in committed delegates. She currently has
394 delegates compared to 44 for Bernie. 360 of Hillary's delegates are
"superdelegates".

This is a joke and a mockery of what are supposed to be elections
determined by voters. The DNC will decide who their candidate is.



"Superdelegates" have long been a contentious issue within the party,
and came about to help prevent the nomination of a candidate who might
have been popular but believed to be an impending disaster in the
electoral college. I'm not sure how significant superdelegate status is
these days because of changes in the rules, but superdelegates still
have some status.

Too bad the GOP hasn't some way to at least steer its nominating
processes, considering the party's likely POTUS candidate will be an
absolutely crazy mutt.


So super delegates are the party "powers that be" answer to maybe losing
power. Rigged and crooked!

Looks like Bernie got a lesson on delegate re-distribution..

On 2/11/16 8:03 AM, Tim wrote:
Looks like Bernie got a lesson on delegate re-distribution..



I have a strong feeling that the concept of "super delegates" was not
news to Bernie or any other professional politician. Not everyone lives
in the bubble of ignorance.

On Thursday, February 11, 2016 at 7:06:11 AM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/11/16 8:03 AM, Tim wrote:
Looks like Bernie got a lesson on delegate re-distribution..

he gets 15

I have a strong feeling that the concept of "super delegates" was not
news to Bernie or any other professional politician. Not everyone lives
in the bubble of ignorance.

he gets 15 and she gets 17 and she didn't have to work for it. lol