On Tue, 09 Feb 2016 20:49:54 -0500,
wrote:

On Tue, 9 Feb 2016 15:56:02 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:

On Tuesday, 9 February 2016 19:45:13 UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/9/2016 5:35 PM, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 2/9/2016 12:29 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

This was a little unnerving ....

Our horse barn is about 175 feet down the driveway from our house.
It has a small, two car garage attached to it where I keep the tractor
in the winter.

I had finished up plowing the driveway with the truck and decided to
walk down to the barn to get the tractor and do a little clean up work.

Got halfway down to the barn when suddenly a coyote came trotting out of
the woods beside the house. I stopped. It stopped ... about 20 feet
away and we just stared at each other. It showed absolutely no fear of
me. It kept looking at me, then in the direction it had been going
(towards the barn and garage) and then back at me again. I just stood
there. It finally started moving slowly towards the garage but then
stopped, turned and started walking back directly towards me. My first
thought was that my gun was back in the house. It stopped again about
20 feet away and we stared at each other again for about 30 seconds then
it moved on towards the garage. So, I slowly followed it, around the
corner and then realized that one of the garage doors was open. (I had
been in there earlier).

My thought was that it had gone in the garage. Walked up slowly and
looked around ... no coyote. Turned around and there he was again,
standing behind me, again about 20, maybe 30 feet away. I booked it
into the garage, pulled the door down fast and watched him through one
of the door windows. He finally lost interest and trotted off towards
my neighbor's house. They raise chickens. I think they will need to
do a head count tonight.

Made me think about what would happen if I had a gun and I was forced to
shoot it if it had attacked or become more threatening. Need to check
up on the laws about that.



Coyotes are a protected species in your state even if it eats your dog
or baby.


I don't think they are protected, even in MA. They have become a
nuisance. The laws I checked said it's legal to shoot them *if* you
have a hunting license *and* discharging the firearm does not violate
any residential area laws. Basically that means firing it within 150
feet of a roadway or firing it within 500 feet of any abutter's property
unless you have their permission to do so.

Don't think the coyote would be willing to just sit and wait until I
go buy the license and then check with a couple of neighbors. :-)

Unless the above requirements are met, I think what would happen is
the LEO would say "nice shot" and then hit me up with illegal discharge
of a firearm and shooting a coyote without a hunting license.

Bottom line is: If I had a gun on me and the damn thing attacked, I'd
shoot and deal with the details later.

I'm almost sure I saw one down at Point Pleasant Park last week. I was walking my Springer on a quiet path when I saw a dingy gray looking animal ahead. It was either a small coyote or a good sized fox. He was gone by the time I got there.

===

When we lived in the northeast our house was less than 5 miles from
the New York City limits. We used to see both coyotes and foxes from
time to time.

I have seen deer in downtown DC. Once they get into southern
Montgomery county, it would not shock me to hear about a black bear
there. The animals can either come down the river or down through Rock
Creek Park.
The deer I saw were on the Whitehurst freeway between foggy bottom and
Georgetown.
I imagine coyotes are already there.

I suppose you were here for the black bear that was down around LeMo
and they couldn't find it for 2 weeks. It turned up in a tree on the
golf course.
In the mean time TV20 was getting cell phone pictures of it almost
every day.

On Tuesday, February 9, 2016 at 12:29:46 PM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote:
This was a little unnerving ....

Our horse barn is about 175 feet down the driveway from our house.
It has a small, two car garage attached to it where I keep the tractor
in the winter.

I had finished up plowing the driveway with the truck and decided to
walk down to the barn to get the tractor and do a little clean up work.

Got halfway down to the barn when suddenly a coyote came trotting out of
the woods beside the house. I stopped. It stopped ... about 20 feet
away and we just stared at each other. It showed absolutely no fear of
me. It kept looking at me, then in the direction it had been going
(towards the barn and garage) and then back at me again. I just stood
there. It finally started moving slowly towards the garage but then
stopped, turned and started walking back directly towards me. My first
thought was that my gun was back in the house. It stopped again about
20 feet away and we stared at each other again for about 30 seconds then
it moved on towards the garage. So, I slowly followed it, around the
corner and then realized that one of the garage doors was open. (I had
been in there earlier).

My thought was that it had gone in the garage. Walked up slowly and
looked around ... no coyote. Turned around and there he was again,
standing behind me, again about 20, maybe 30 feet away. I booked it
into the garage, pulled the door down fast and watched him through one
of the door windows. He finally lost interest and trotted off towards
my neighbor's house. They raise chickens. I think they will need to
do a head count tonight.

Made me think about what would happen if I had a gun and I was forced to
shoot it if it had attacked or become more threatening. Need to check
up on the laws about that.

One thing no one has mentioned...

Coyotes aren't loners. They live in a family unit with at least a mate and possibly more "singles" to assist in hunting. The reproduce in late winter, so you may have a pair bedding down in a den to have pups. They rarely attack humans, but the wolf-coyote hybrid is more likely to attack, and something I read says in general they have become more aggressive because humans aren't harassing them in rural areas very much. Bottom line, if there's one, there's at least two or more.

I did a little research recently because I had some that were hanging out in the area. I saw one crossing the road just down from the house. They were driving Buddy, my lab, nuts. They seemed to have moved on for now.

In article ,
says...

This was a little unnerving ....

Our horse barn is about 175 feet down the driveway from our house.
It has a small, two car garage attached to it where I keep the tractor
in the winter.

I had finished up plowing the driveway with the truck and decided to
walk down to the barn to get the tractor and do a little clean up work.

Got halfway down to the barn when suddenly a coyote came trotting out of
the woods beside the house. I stopped. It stopped ... about 20 feet
away and we just stared at each other. It showed absolutely no fear of
me. It kept looking at me, then in the direction it had been going
(towards the barn and garage) and then back at me again. I just stood
there. It finally started moving slowly towards the garage but then
stopped, turned and started walking back directly towards me. My first
thought was that my gun was back in the house. It stopped again about
20 feet away and we stared at each other again for about 30 seconds then
it moved on towards the garage. So, I slowly followed it, around the
corner and then realized that one of the garage doors was open. (I had
been in there earlier).

My thought was that it had gone in the garage. Walked up slowly and
looked around ... no coyote. Turned around and there he was again,
standing behind me, again about 20, maybe 30 feet away. I booked it
into the garage, pulled the door down fast and watched him through one
of the door windows. He finally lost interest and trotted off towards
my neighbor's house. They raise chickens. I think they will need to
do a head count tonight.

Made me think about what would happen if I had a gun and I was forced to
shoot it if it had attacked or become more threatening. Need to check
up on the laws about that.

Sounds like Harry - who once said he carried because of "dog
packs."
I can't imagine being attacked by a coyote. They are naturally
fearful of me, with good reason. Dogs too.
Excepting Chihuahuas. Tiny dogs are stupid. I have one.
Instead of "booking" it into the garage, you should have just
growled at it as you approached it. Make a fist too.
Would have sent it away with its tail tucked.
Bears are another story.

On Tuesday, February 9, 2016 at 8:23:57 PM UTC-5, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...

This was a little unnerving ....

Our horse barn is about 175 feet down the driveway from our house.
It has a small, two car garage attached to it where I keep the tractor
in the winter.

I had finished up plowing the driveway with the truck and decided to
walk down to the barn to get the tractor and do a little clean up work.

Got halfway down to the barn when suddenly a coyote came trotting out of
the woods beside the house. I stopped. It stopped ... about 20 feet
away and we just stared at each other. It showed absolutely no fear of
me. It kept looking at me, then in the direction it had been going
(towards the barn and garage) and then back at me again. I just stood
there. It finally started moving slowly towards the garage but then
stopped, turned and started walking back directly towards me. My first
thought was that my gun was back in the house. It stopped again about
20 feet away and we stared at each other again for about 30 seconds then
it moved on towards the garage. So, I slowly followed it, around the
corner and then realized that one of the garage doors was open. (I had
been in there earlier).

My thought was that it had gone in the garage. Walked up slowly and
looked around ... no coyote. Turned around and there he was again,
standing behind me, again about 20, maybe 30 feet away. I booked it
into the garage, pulled the door down fast and watched him through one
of the door windows. He finally lost interest and trotted off towards
my neighbor's house. They raise chickens. I think they will need to
do a head count tonight.

Made me think about what would happen if I had a gun and I was forced to
shoot it if it had attacked or become more threatening. Need to check
up on the laws about that.

Sounds like Harry - who once said he carried because of "dog
packs."
I can't imagine being attacked by a coyote. They are naturally
fearful of me, with good reason. Dogs too.

Heh. You've stated you don't have a gun. A good sized dog or a couple of hungry, crazy coyotes would mess up your month (or two), if not worse. They hunt for their food. You hunt at the grocery store. You aren't as bad as you think you are.

On 2/9/16 8:23 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...

This was a little unnerving ....

Our horse barn is about 175 feet down the driveway from our house.
It has a small, two car garage attached to it where I keep the tractor
in the winter.

I had finished up plowing the driveway with the truck and decided to
walk down to the barn to get the tractor and do a little clean up work.

Got halfway down to the barn when suddenly a coyote came trotting out of
the woods beside the house. I stopped. It stopped ... about 20 feet
away and we just stared at each other. It showed absolutely no fear of
me. It kept looking at me, then in the direction it had been going
(towards the barn and garage) and then back at me again. I just stood
there. It finally started moving slowly towards the garage but then
stopped, turned and started walking back directly towards me. My first
thought was that my gun was back in the house. It stopped again about
20 feet away and we stared at each other again for about 30 seconds then
it moved on towards the garage. So, I slowly followed it, around the
corner and then realized that one of the garage doors was open. (I had
been in there earlier).

My thought was that it had gone in the garage. Walked up slowly and
looked around ... no coyote. Turned around and there he was again,
standing behind me, again about 20, maybe 30 feet away. I booked it
into the garage, pulled the door down fast and watched him through one
of the door windows. He finally lost interest and trotted off towards
my neighbor's house. They raise chickens. I think they will need to
do a head count tonight.

Made me think about what would happen if I had a gun and I was forced to
shoot it if it had attacked or become more threatening. Need to check
up on the laws about that.

Sounds like Harry - who once said he carried because of "dog
packs."
I can't imagine being attacked by a coyote. They are naturally
fearful of me, with good reason. Dogs too.
Excepting Chihuahuas. Tiny dogs are stupid. I have one.
Instead of "booking" it into the garage, you should have just
growled at it as you approached it. Make a fist too.
Would have sent it away with its tail tucked.
Bears are another story.




Luddite knew it was a coyote because of the tag around its neck that
said "Wile"

I open carried out in the Shenandoah area because of verified reports of
feral dog attacks.

On Tue, 9 Feb 2016 20:58:31 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

Luddite knew it was a coyote because of the tag around its neck that
said "Wile"

.... and the Acme jet pack.

On 2/9/2016 8:58 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/9/16 8:23 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...

This was a little unnerving ....

Our horse barn is about 175 feet down the driveway from our house.
It has a small, two car garage attached to it where I keep the tractor
in the winter.

I had finished up plowing the driveway with the truck and decided to
walk down to the barn to get the tractor and do a little clean up work.

Got halfway down to the barn when suddenly a coyote came trotting out of
the woods beside the house. I stopped. It stopped ... about 20 feet
away and we just stared at each other. It showed absolutely no fear of
me. It kept looking at me, then in the direction it had been going
(towards the barn and garage) and then back at me again. I just stood
there. It finally started moving slowly towards the garage but then
stopped, turned and started walking back directly towards me. My first
thought was that my gun was back in the house. It stopped again about
20 feet away and we stared at each other again for about 30 seconds then
it moved on towards the garage. So, I slowly followed it, around the
corner and then realized that one of the garage doors was open. (I had
been in there earlier).

My thought was that it had gone in the garage. Walked up slowly and
looked around ... no coyote. Turned around and there he was again,
standing behind me, again about 20, maybe 30 feet away. I booked it
into the garage, pulled the door down fast and watched him through one
of the door windows. He finally lost interest and trotted off towards
my neighbor's house. They raise chickens. I think they will need to
do a head count tonight.

Made me think about what would happen if I had a gun and I was forced to
shoot it if it had attacked or become more threatening. Need to check
up on the laws about that.

Sounds like Harry - who once said he carried because of "dog
packs."
I can't imagine being attacked by a coyote. They are naturally
fearful of me, with good reason. Dogs too.
Excepting Chihuahuas. Tiny dogs are stupid. I have one.
Instead of "booking" it into the garage, you should have just
growled at it as you approached it. Make a fist too.
Would have sent it away with its tail tucked.
Bears are another story.




Luddite knew it was a coyote because of the tag around its neck that
said "Wile"

I open carried out in the Shenandoah area because of verified reports of
feral dog attacks.

Do you open carry in DC because of the daily reports of shootings,
muggings, rape, armed robbery etc. there? No you don't, but you cowboy
up out in the woods because of an occasional stray dog incident?
You are terribly inconsistent Krausie baby.

On Tue, 9 Feb 2016 22:41:58 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote:

On 2/9/2016 8:58 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/9/16 8:23 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...

This was a little unnerving ....

Our horse barn is about 175 feet down the driveway from our house.
It has a small, two car garage attached to it where I keep the tractor
in the winter.

I had finished up plowing the driveway with the truck and decided to
walk down to the barn to get the tractor and do a little clean up work.

Got halfway down to the barn when suddenly a coyote came trotting out of
the woods beside the house. I stopped. It stopped ... about 20 feet
away and we just stared at each other. It showed absolutely no fear of
me. It kept looking at me, then in the direction it had been going
(towards the barn and garage) and then back at me again. I just stood
there. It finally started moving slowly towards the garage but then
stopped, turned and started walking back directly towards me. My first
thought was that my gun was back in the house. It stopped again about
20 feet away and we stared at each other again for about 30 seconds then
it moved on towards the garage. So, I slowly followed it, around the
corner and then realized that one of the garage doors was open. (I had
been in there earlier).

My thought was that it had gone in the garage. Walked up slowly and
looked around ... no coyote. Turned around and there he was again,
standing behind me, again about 20, maybe 30 feet away. I booked it
into the garage, pulled the door down fast and watched him through one
of the door windows. He finally lost interest and trotted off towards
my neighbor's house. They raise chickens. I think they will need to
do a head count tonight.

Made me think about what would happen if I had a gun and I was forced to
shoot it if it had attacked or become more threatening. Need to check
up on the laws about that.

Sounds like Harry - who once said he carried because of "dog
packs."
I can't imagine being attacked by a coyote. They are naturally
fearful of me, with good reason. Dogs too.
Excepting Chihuahuas. Tiny dogs are stupid. I have one.
Instead of "booking" it into the garage, you should have just
growled at it as you approached it. Make a fist too.
Would have sent it away with its tail tucked.
Bears are another story.




Luddite knew it was a coyote because of the tag around its neck that
said "Wile"

I open carried out in the Shenandoah area because of verified reports of
feral dog attacks.

Do you open carry in DC because of the daily reports of shootings,
muggings, rape, armed robbery etc. there? No you don't, but you cowboy
up out in the woods because of an occasional stray dog incident?
You are terribly inconsistent Krausie baby.

As you should know by now, complaining of the shootings, muggings, rape, murders, and armed
robberies in DC is as racist as mentioning Chicago.

For shame.
--

Ban liars, tax cheats, idiots, and narcissists...not guns!

On 2/10/16 4:41 AM, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 9 Feb 2016 22:41:58 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote:

On 2/9/2016 8:58 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/9/16 8:23 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...

This was a little unnerving ....

Our horse barn is about 175 feet down the driveway from our house.
It has a small, two car garage attached to it where I keep the tractor
in the winter.

I had finished up plowing the driveway with the truck and decided to
walk down to the barn to get the tractor and do a little clean up work.

Got halfway down to the barn when suddenly a coyote came trotting out of
the woods beside the house. I stopped. It stopped ... about 20 feet
away and we just stared at each other. It showed absolutely no fear of
me. It kept looking at me, then in the direction it had been going
(towards the barn and garage) and then back at me again. I just stood
there. It finally started moving slowly towards the garage but then
stopped, turned and started walking back directly towards me. My first
thought was that my gun was back in the house. It stopped again about
20 feet away and we stared at each other again for about 30 seconds then
it moved on towards the garage. So, I slowly followed it, around the
corner and then realized that one of the garage doors was open. (I had
been in there earlier).

My thought was that it had gone in the garage. Walked up slowly and
looked around ... no coyote. Turned around and there he was again,
standing behind me, again about 20, maybe 30 feet away. I booked it
into the garage, pulled the door down fast and watched him through one
of the door windows. He finally lost interest and trotted off towards
my neighbor's house. They raise chickens. I think they will need to
do a head count tonight.

Made me think about what would happen if I had a gun and I was forced to
shoot it if it had attacked or become more threatening. Need to check
up on the laws about that.

Sounds like Harry - who once said he carried because of "dog
packs."
I can't imagine being attacked by a coyote. They are naturally
fearful of me, with good reason. Dogs too.
Excepting Chihuahuas. Tiny dogs are stupid. I have one.
Instead of "booking" it into the garage, you should have just
growled at it as you approached it. Make a fist too.
Would have sent it away with its tail tucked.
Bears are another story.




Luddite knew it was a coyote because of the tag around its neck that
said "Wile"

I open carried out in the Shenandoah area because of verified reports of
feral dog attacks.

Do you open carry in DC because of the daily reports of shootings,
muggings, rape, armed robbery etc. there? No you don't, but you cowboy
up out in the woods because of an occasional stray dog incident?
You are terribly inconsistent Krausie baby.

As you should know by now, complaining of the shootings, muggings, rape, murders, and armed
robberies in DC is as racist as mentioning Chicago.

For shame.


Unlike you two racist pussies, I regularly attend meetings and visit
jobsites in D.C., sometimes in low-income neighborhoods, and in the 40
or so years I've been doing that, I've never encountered the shooters,
muggers, murderers, rapists, et cetera, that so terrify you two
ex-military pukes.

You boys must have been hell on wheels while in uniform, running for
cover the first time a shot was fired.

On Tue, 9 Feb 2016 20:58:31 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/9/16 8:23 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...

This was a little unnerving ....

Our horse barn is about 175 feet down the driveway from our house.
It has a small, two car garage attached to it where I keep the tractor
in the winter.

I had finished up plowing the driveway with the truck and decided to
walk down to the barn to get the tractor and do a little clean up work.

Got halfway down to the barn when suddenly a coyote came trotting out of
the woods beside the house. I stopped. It stopped ... about 20 feet
away and we just stared at each other. It showed absolutely no fear of
me. It kept looking at me, then in the direction it had been going
(towards the barn and garage) and then back at me again. I just stood
there. It finally started moving slowly towards the garage but then
stopped, turned and started walking back directly towards me. My first
thought was that my gun was back in the house. It stopped again about
20 feet away and we stared at each other again for about 30 seconds then
it moved on towards the garage. So, I slowly followed it, around the
corner and then realized that one of the garage doors was open. (I had
been in there earlier).

My thought was that it had gone in the garage. Walked up slowly and
looked around ... no coyote. Turned around and there he was again,
standing behind me, again about 20, maybe 30 feet away. I booked it
into the garage, pulled the door down fast and watched him through one
of the door windows. He finally lost interest and trotted off towards
my neighbor's house. They raise chickens. I think they will need to
do a head count tonight.

Made me think about what would happen if I had a gun and I was forced to
shoot it if it had attacked or become more threatening. Need to check
up on the laws about that.

Sounds like Harry - who once said he carried because of "dog
packs."
I can't imagine being attacked by a coyote. They are naturally
fearful of me, with good reason. Dogs too.
Excepting Chihuahuas. Tiny dogs are stupid. I have one.
Instead of "booking" it into the garage, you should have just
growled at it as you approached it. Make a fist too.
Would have sent it away with its tail tucked.
Bears are another story.




Luddite knew it was a coyote because of the tag around its neck that
said "Wile"

I open carried out in the Shenandoah area because of verified reports of
feral dog attacks.

....but mostly to impress the good ol' boys, eh?
--

Ban liars, tax cheats, idiots, and narcissists...not guns!