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On 2/10/16 4:39 AM, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 9 Feb 2016 20:58:31 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/9/16 8:23 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...

This was a little unnerving ....

Our horse barn is about 175 feet down the driveway from our house.
It has a small, two car garage attached to it where I keep the tractor
in the winter.

I had finished up plowing the driveway with the truck and decided to
walk down to the barn to get the tractor and do a little clean up work.

Got halfway down to the barn when suddenly a coyote came trotting out of
the woods beside the house. I stopped. It stopped ... about 20 feet
away and we just stared at each other. It showed absolutely no fear of
me. It kept looking at me, then in the direction it had been going
(towards the barn and garage) and then back at me again. I just stood
there. It finally started moving slowly towards the garage but then
stopped, turned and started walking back directly towards me. My first
thought was that my gun was back in the house. It stopped again about
20 feet away and we stared at each other again for about 30 seconds then
it moved on towards the garage. So, I slowly followed it, around the
corner and then realized that one of the garage doors was open. (I had
been in there earlier).

My thought was that it had gone in the garage. Walked up slowly and
looked around ... no coyote. Turned around and there he was again,
standing behind me, again about 20, maybe 30 feet away. I booked it
into the garage, pulled the door down fast and watched him through one
of the door windows. He finally lost interest and trotted off towards
my neighbor's house. They raise chickens. I think they will need to
do a head count tonight.

Made me think about what would happen if I had a gun and I was forced to
shoot it if it had attacked or become more threatening. Need to check
up on the laws about that.

Sounds like Harry - who once said he carried because of "dog
packs."
I can't imagine being attacked by a coyote. They are naturally
fearful of me, with good reason. Dogs too.
Excepting Chihuahuas. Tiny dogs are stupid. I have one.
Instead of "booking" it into the garage, you should have just
growled at it as you approached it. Make a fist too.
Would have sent it away with its tail tucked.
Bears are another story.




Luddite knew it was a coyote because of the tag around its neck that
said "Wile"

I open carried out in the Shenandoah area because of verified reports of
feral dog attacks.



...but mostly to impress the good ol' boys, eh?



Don't know any of your feral good old boys, Johnny the Racist. I do know
some Southern fellas, but they would be as disgusted by the likes of you
and your trashy racism as any other decent folk.

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On 2/10/16 4:41 AM, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 9 Feb 2016 22:41:58 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote:

On 2/9/2016 8:58 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/9/16 8:23 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...

This was a little unnerving ....

Our horse barn is about 175 feet down the driveway from our house.
It has a small, two car garage attached to it where I keep the tractor
in the winter.

I had finished up plowing the driveway with the truck and decided to
walk down to the barn to get the tractor and do a little clean up work.

Got halfway down to the barn when suddenly a coyote came trotting out of
the woods beside the house. I stopped. It stopped ... about 20 feet
away and we just stared at each other. It showed absolutely no fear of
me. It kept looking at me, then in the direction it had been going
(towards the barn and garage) and then back at me again. I just stood
there. It finally started moving slowly towards the garage but then
stopped, turned and started walking back directly towards me. My first
thought was that my gun was back in the house. It stopped again about
20 feet away and we stared at each other again for about 30 seconds then
it moved on towards the garage. So, I slowly followed it, around the
corner and then realized that one of the garage doors was open. (I had
been in there earlier).

My thought was that it had gone in the garage. Walked up slowly and
looked around ... no coyote. Turned around and there he was again,
standing behind me, again about 20, maybe 30 feet away. I booked it
into the garage, pulled the door down fast and watched him through one
of the door windows. He finally lost interest and trotted off towards
my neighbor's house. They raise chickens. I think they will need to
do a head count tonight.

Made me think about what would happen if I had a gun and I was forced to
shoot it if it had attacked or become more threatening. Need to check
up on the laws about that.

Sounds like Harry - who once said he carried because of "dog
packs."
I can't imagine being attacked by a coyote. They are naturally
fearful of me, with good reason. Dogs too.
Excepting Chihuahuas. Tiny dogs are stupid. I have one.
Instead of "booking" it into the garage, you should have just
growled at it as you approached it. Make a fist too.
Would have sent it away with its tail tucked.
Bears are another story.




Luddite knew it was a coyote because of the tag around its neck that
said "Wile"

I open carried out in the Shenandoah area because of verified reports of
feral dog attacks.

Do you open carry in DC because of the daily reports of shootings,
muggings, rape, armed robbery etc. there? No you don't, but you cowboy
up out in the woods because of an occasional stray dog incident?
You are terribly inconsistent Krausie baby.

As you should know by now, complaining of the shootings, muggings, rape, murders, and armed
robberies in DC is as racist as mentioning Chicago.

For shame.


Unlike you two racist pussies, I regularly attend meetings and visit
jobsites in D.C., sometimes in low-income neighborhoods, and in the 40
or so years I've been doing that, I've never encountered the shooters,
muggers, murderers, rapists, et cetera, that so terrify you two
ex-military pukes.

You boys must have been hell on wheels while in uniform, running for
cover the first time a shot was fired.

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On Wednesday, February 10, 2016 at 7:55:06 AM UTC-5, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/10/16 4:41 AM, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 9 Feb 2016 22:41:58 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote:

On 2/9/2016 8:58 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/9/16 8:23 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...

This was a little unnerving ....

Our horse barn is about 175 feet down the driveway from our house.
It has a small, two car garage attached to it where I keep the tractor
in the winter.

I had finished up plowing the driveway with the truck and decided to
walk down to the barn to get the tractor and do a little clean up work.

Got halfway down to the barn when suddenly a coyote came trotting out of
the woods beside the house. I stopped. It stopped ... about 20 feet
away and we just stared at each other. It showed absolutely no fear of
me. It kept looking at me, then in the direction it had been going
(towards the barn and garage) and then back at me again. I just stood
there. It finally started moving slowly towards the garage but then
stopped, turned and started walking back directly towards me. My first
thought was that my gun was back in the house. It stopped again about
20 feet away and we stared at each other again for about 30 seconds then
it moved on towards the garage. So, I slowly followed it, around the
corner and then realized that one of the garage doors was open. (I had
been in there earlier).

My thought was that it had gone in the garage. Walked up slowly and
looked around ... no coyote. Turned around and there he was again,
standing behind me, again about 20, maybe 30 feet away. I booked it
into the garage, pulled the door down fast and watched him through one
of the door windows. He finally lost interest and trotted off towards
my neighbor's house. They raise chickens. I think they will need to
do a head count tonight.

Made me think about what would happen if I had a gun and I was forced to
shoot it if it had attacked or become more threatening. Need to check
up on the laws about that.

Sounds like Harry - who once said he carried because of "dog
packs."
I can't imagine being attacked by a coyote. They are naturally
fearful of me, with good reason. Dogs too.
Excepting Chihuahuas. Tiny dogs are stupid. I have one.
Instead of "booking" it into the garage, you should have just
growled at it as you approached it. Make a fist too.
Would have sent it away with its tail tucked.
Bears are another story.




Luddite knew it was a coyote because of the tag around its neck that
said "Wile"

I open carried out in the Shenandoah area because of verified reports of
feral dog attacks.

Do you open carry in DC because of the daily reports of shootings,
muggings, rape, armed robbery etc. there? No you don't, but you cowboy
up out in the woods because of an occasional stray dog incident?
You are terribly inconsistent Krausie baby.

As you should know by now, complaining of the shootings, muggings, rape, murders, and armed
robberies in DC is as racist as mentioning Chicago.

For shame.


Unlike you two racist pussies, I regularly attend meetings and visit
jobsites in D.C., sometimes in low-income neighborhoods, and in the 40
or so years I've been doing that, I've never encountered the shooters,
muggers, murderers, rapists, et cetera, that so terrify you two
ex-military pukes.

You boys must have been hell on wheels while in uniform, running for
cover the first time a shot was fired.

Tell us more about that news story you wrote about some fellows getting shot at in Mississippi, Mr. Brian Williams.

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On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 07:55:03 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/10/16 4:41 AM, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 9 Feb 2016 22:41:58 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote:

On 2/9/2016 8:58 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/9/16 8:23 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...

This was a little unnerving ....

Our horse barn is about 175 feet down the driveway from our house.
It has a small, two car garage attached to it where I keep the tractor
in the winter.

I had finished up plowing the driveway with the truck and decided to
walk down to the barn to get the tractor and do a little clean up work.

Got halfway down to the barn when suddenly a coyote came trotting out of
the woods beside the house. I stopped. It stopped ... about 20 feet
away and we just stared at each other. It showed absolutely no fear of
me. It kept looking at me, then in the direction it had been going
(towards the barn and garage) and then back at me again. I just stood
there. It finally started moving slowly towards the garage but then
stopped, turned and started walking back directly towards me. My first
thought was that my gun was back in the house. It stopped again about
20 feet away and we stared at each other again for about 30 seconds then
it moved on towards the garage. So, I slowly followed it, around the
corner and then realized that one of the garage doors was open. (I had
been in there earlier).

My thought was that it had gone in the garage. Walked up slowly and
looked around ... no coyote. Turned around and there he was again,
standing behind me, again about 20, maybe 30 feet away. I booked it
into the garage, pulled the door down fast and watched him through one
of the door windows. He finally lost interest and trotted off towards
my neighbor's house. They raise chickens. I think they will need to
do a head count tonight.

Made me think about what would happen if I had a gun and I was forced to
shoot it if it had attacked or become more threatening. Need to check
up on the laws about that.

Sounds like Harry - who once said he carried because of "dog
packs."
I can't imagine being attacked by a coyote. They are naturally
fearful of me, with good reason. Dogs too.
Excepting Chihuahuas. Tiny dogs are stupid. I have one.
Instead of "booking" it into the garage, you should have just
growled at it as you approached it. Make a fist too.
Would have sent it away with its tail tucked.
Bears are another story.




Luddite knew it was a coyote because of the tag around its neck that
said "Wile"

I open carried out in the Shenandoah area because of verified reports of
feral dog attacks.

Do you open carry in DC because of the daily reports of shootings,
muggings, rape, armed robbery etc. there? No you don't, but you cowboy
up out in the woods because of an occasional stray dog incident?
You are terribly inconsistent Krausie baby.

As you should know by now, complaining of the shootings, muggings, rape, murders, and armed
robberies in DC is as racist as mentioning Chicago.

For shame.


Unlike you two racist pussies, I regularly attend meetings and visit
jobsites in D.C., sometimes in low-income neighborhoods, and in the 40
or so years I've been doing that, I've never encountered the shooters,
muggers, murderers, rapists, et cetera, that so terrify you two
ex-military pukes.

You boys must have been hell on wheels while in uniform, running for
cover the first time a shot was fired.

More Krausescheizze, eh Herr Krause?
--

Ban liars, tax cheats, idiots, and narcissists...not guns!

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John H.
- show quoted text -
"More Krausescheizze, eh Herr Krause?"


Sounds like name calling to me, JohnnyMop.

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On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 05:34:59 -0800 (PST), True North wrote:

John H.
- show quoted text -
"More Krausescheizze, eh Herr Krause?"


Sounds like name calling to me, JohnnyMop.

No, his name is 'Krause'. 'Herr' is simply German for 'Mister'. The term
'Krausescheizze' is a noun referring to what he is spreading. I'm surely not calling
Harry 'Krausescheizze'. That would be 'name-calling'.

Verstehen sie, Herr White?
--

Ban liars, tax cheats, idiots, and narcissists...not guns!

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On 2/10/2016 8:34 AM, True North wrote:
John H.
- show quoted text -
"More Krausescheizze, eh Herr Krause?"


Sounds like name calling to me, JohnnyMop.

It would sound like name calling to someone with a low IQ.

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On Tue, 9 Feb 2016 19:23:59 -0600, Boating All Out
wrote:

Sounds like Harry - who once said he carried because of "dog
packs."
I can't imagine being attacked by a coyote. They are naturally
fearful of me, with good reason. Dogs too.
Excepting Chihuahuas. Tiny dogs are stupid. I have one.
Instead of "booking" it into the garage, you should have just
growled at it as you approached it. Make a fist too.
Would have sent it away with its tail tucked.
Bears are another story.

===

Dog packs are dangerous but they're more interested in deer than
anything else. Dogs, wolves, coyotes, etc., are all dangerous in
packs and capable of taking down some fairly large animals. They are
all natural born stalkers and hunters if given the chance.

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Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/9/2016 8:23 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...

This was a little unnerving ....

Our horse barn is about 175 feet down the driveway from our house.
It has a small, two car garage attached to it where I keep the tractor
in the winter.

I had finished up plowing the driveway with the truck and decided to
walk down to the barn to get the tractor and do a little clean up work.

Got halfway down to the barn when suddenly a coyote came trotting
out of
the woods beside the house. I stopped. It stopped ... about 20 feet
away and we just stared at each other. It showed absolutely no fear of
me. It kept looking at me, then in the direction it had been going
(towards the barn and garage) and then back at me again. I just stood
there. It finally started moving slowly towards the garage but then
stopped, turned and started walking back directly towards me. My
first
thought was that my gun was back in the house. It stopped again about
20 feet away and we stared at each other again for about 30 seconds
then
it moved on towards the garage. So, I slowly followed it, around the
corner and then realized that one of the garage doors was open. (I had
been in there earlier).

My thought was that it had gone in the garage. Walked up slowly and
looked around ... no coyote. Turned around and there he was again,
standing behind me, again about 20, maybe 30 feet away. I booked it
into the garage, pulled the door down fast and watched him through one
of the door windows. He finally lost interest and trotted off towards
my neighbor's house. They raise chickens. I think they will need to
do a head count tonight.

Made me think about what would happen if I had a gun and I was
forced to
shoot it if it had attacked or become more threatening. Need to check
up on the laws about that.

Sounds like Harry - who once said he carried because of "dog
packs."
I can't imagine being attacked by a coyote. They are naturally
fearful of me, with good reason. Dogs too.
Excepting Chihuahuas. Tiny dogs are stupid. I have one.
Instead of "booking" it into the garage, you should have just
growled at it as you approached it. Make a fist too.
Would have sent it away with its tail tucked.
Bears are another story.





You might want to consider doing some reading on a subject before you
shoot your mouth off. Attacks on humans are rare but they occur.
Coyotes have lost their fear of humans in many areas (including around
here) due to over population and regular encounters. They are also
disease ridden due to their diet.

I am sure a coyote would understand what making a fist was all about, eh?





Kevin is a tough guy with a mean fist.

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In article ,
says...

On Tue, 9 Feb 2016 19:23:59 -0600, Boating All Out
wrote:

Sounds like Harry - who once said he carried because of "dog
packs."
I can't imagine being attacked by a coyote. They are naturally
fearful of me, with good reason. Dogs too.
Excepting Chihuahuas. Tiny dogs are stupid. I have one.
Instead of "booking" it into the garage, you should have just
growled at it as you approached it. Make a fist too.
Would have sent it away with its tail tucked.
Bears are another story.

===

Dog packs are dangerous but they're more interested in deer than
anything else. Dogs, wolves, coyotes, etc., are all dangerous in
packs and capable of taking down some fairly large animals. They are
all natural born stalkers and hunters if given the chance.

Yep.
OTOH, a single coyote - all 35 pounds of him - isn't much.
Especially if you're bundled in winter clothes.
Everyone has their own way of dealing with these kind of
incidents. My inclination would be to scare it off
immediately, since I don't want it attacking my back.
You have to let any canine know who's boss.
What's scarier is being attacked by a skunk. They have poor
eyesight and have come right at me at night time.
That's when I beat feet.

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On 2/10/16 9:09 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Tue, 9 Feb 2016 19:23:59 -0600, Boating All Out
wrote:

Sounds like Harry - who once said he carried because of "dog
packs."
I can't imagine being attacked by a coyote. They are naturally
fearful of me, with good reason. Dogs too.
Excepting Chihuahuas. Tiny dogs are stupid. I have one.
Instead of "booking" it into the garage, you should have just
growled at it as you approached it. Make a fist too.
Would have sent it away with its tail tucked.
Bears are another story.

===

Dog packs are dangerous but they're more interested in deer than
anything else. Dogs, wolves, coyotes, etc., are all dangerous in
packs and capable of taking down some fairly large animals. They are
all natural born stalkers and hunters if given the chance.

Yep.
OTOH, a single coyote - all 35 pounds of him - isn't much.
Especially if you're bundled in winter clothes.
Everyone has their own way of dealing with these kind of
incidents. My inclination would be to scare it off
immediately, since I don't want it attacking my back.
You have to let any canine know who's boss.
What's scarier is being attacked by a skunk. They have poor
eyesight and have come right at me at night time.
That's when I beat feet.


There's no shortage of news stories about packs of feral dogs attacking
humans or the pets of humans.

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On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 20:09:51 -0600, Boating All Out
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 9 Feb 2016 19:23:59 -0600, Boating All Out
wrote:

Sounds like Harry - who once said he carried because of "dog
packs."
I can't imagine being attacked by a coyote. They are naturally
fearful of me, with good reason. Dogs too.
Excepting Chihuahuas. Tiny dogs are stupid. I have one.
Instead of "booking" it into the garage, you should have just
growled at it as you approached it. Make a fist too.
Would have sent it away with its tail tucked.
Bears are another story.

===

Dog packs are dangerous but they're more interested in deer than
anything else. Dogs, wolves, coyotes, etc., are all dangerous in
packs and capable of taking down some fairly large animals. They are
all natural born stalkers and hunters if given the chance.

Yep.
OTOH, a single coyote - all 35 pounds of him - isn't much.
Especially if you're bundled in winter clothes.
Everyone has their own way of dealing with these kind of
incidents. My inclination would be to scare it off
immediately, since I don't want it attacking my back.
You have to let any canine know who's boss.

===

Here's an interesting YouTube video of a coyote stalking a human. It
might make you rethink your strategy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqVE9qfg7yI

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In article ,
says...

On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 20:09:51 -0600, Boating All Out
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 9 Feb 2016 19:23:59 -0600, Boating All Out
wrote:

Sounds like Harry - who once said he carried because of "dog
packs."
I can't imagine being attacked by a coyote. They are naturally
fearful of me, with good reason. Dogs too.
Excepting Chihuahuas. Tiny dogs are stupid. I have one.
Instead of "booking" it into the garage, you should have just
growled at it as you approached it. Make a fist too.
Would have sent it away with its tail tucked.
Bears are another story.

===

Dog packs are dangerous but they're more interested in deer than
anything else. Dogs, wolves, coyotes, etc., are all dangerous in
packs and capable of taking down some fairly large animals. They are
all natural born stalkers and hunters if given the chance.

Yep.
OTOH, a single coyote - all 35 pounds of him - isn't much.
Especially if you're bundled in winter clothes.
Everyone has their own way of dealing with these kind of
incidents. My inclination would be to scare it off
immediately, since I don't want it attacking my back.
You have to let any canine know who's boss.

===

Here's an interesting YouTube video of a coyote stalking a human. It
might make you rethink your strategy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqVE9qfg7yI

Good vid. No, it doesn't make me rethink. That guy was
playing around with it. He didn't want to give it a good kick.
Or maybe he wasn't capable of kicking. But he sure wasn't
afraid of it. He knew not to offer his back.

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On 2/11/2016 2:31 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 20:09:51 -0600, Boating All Out
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 9 Feb 2016 19:23:59 -0600, Boating All Out
wrote:

Sounds like Harry - who once said he carried because of "dog
packs."
I can't imagine being attacked by a coyote. They are naturally
fearful of me, with good reason. Dogs too.
Excepting Chihuahuas. Tiny dogs are stupid. I have one.
Instead of "booking" it into the garage, you should have just
growled at it as you approached it. Make a fist too.
Would have sent it away with its tail tucked.
Bears are another story.

===

Dog packs are dangerous but they're more interested in deer than
anything else. Dogs, wolves, coyotes, etc., are all dangerous in
packs and capable of taking down some fairly large animals. They are
all natural born stalkers and hunters if given the chance.

Yep.
OTOH, a single coyote - all 35 pounds of him - isn't much.
Especially if you're bundled in winter clothes.
Everyone has their own way of dealing with these kind of
incidents. My inclination would be to scare it off
immediately, since I don't want it attacking my back.
You have to let any canine know who's boss.

===

Here's an interesting YouTube video of a coyote stalking a human. It
might make you rethink your strategy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqVE9qfg7yI

Good vid. No, it doesn't make me rethink. That guy was
playing around with it. He didn't want to give it a good kick.
Or maybe he wasn't capable of kicking. But he sure wasn't
afraid of it. He knew not to offer his back.



You are a trip. One one hand you claim that a coyote is naturally
fearful of humans and won't go after one anyway and then, (above) you
say "my inclination would be to scare if off immediately, since I don't
want it attacking my back." So which is it? Will it attack or not?

A coyote is not a dog. Any wild animal that can easily take down and
kill a deer deserves some respect. It's a lot smarter to avoid a
confrontation than to further encourage and add to it's experience in
dealing with humans. The increasing frequency of human contact is what
is causing them to lose their fear in the first place.

Can't say I admire your bravery. It's more like stupidity.

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On 2/11/2016 2:31 AM, Boating All Out wrote:

You have to let any canine know who's boss.

I chuckled when I read this.

We have a dog named "Fudge". Good sized mutt that my wife
rescued as a 1 year old pup from an abusive owner years ago.

Fudge is an awesome dog and is more affectionate to those he knows than
our other goofy black lab, "Sam Adams".

But God help any stranger who encounters Fudge in the house or outside
in the fenced-in area we made for him. You could throw all the rocks at
him you want, try to kick him, make fists at him and yell at him until
you're hoarse but he's still going to try to get you.
Doesn't like strangers at all, especially guys. I had to rescue a
landscaper who Fudge cornered once. The guy was yelling his head off at
him but the only thing that saved him was a five foot high aluminum pool
fence that was slowing Fudge down. He was trying to bite his way
through the fence to get to the guy.

Fudge would probably be no match for a wild coyote though.

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On 2/11/16 2:21 AM, RGrew176 wrote:
Mr. Luddite;1054983 Wrote:
On 2/9/2016 8:23 PM, Boating All Out wrote:-
In article ,
says...-

This was a little unnerving ....

Our horse barn is about 175 feet down the driveway from our house.
It has a small, two car garage attached to it where I keep the tractor
in the winter.

I had finished up plowing the driveway with the truck and decided to
walk down to the barn to get the tractor and do a little clean up
work.

Got halfway down to the barn when suddenly a coyote came trotting out
of
the woods beside the house. I stopped. It stopped ... about 20 feet
away and we just stared at each other. It showed absolutely no fear of
me. It kept looking at me, then in the direction it had been going
(towards the barn and garage) and then back at me again. I just stood
there. It finally started moving slowly towards the garage but then
stopped, turned and started walking back directly towards me. My
first
thought was that my gun was back in the house. It stopped again about
20 feet away and we stared at each other again for about 30 seconds
then
it moved on towards the garage. So, I slowly followed it, around the
corner and then realized that one of the garage doors was open. (I
had
been in there earlier).

My thought was that it had gone in the garage. Walked up slowly and
looked around ... no coyote. Turned around and there he was again,
standing behind me, again about 20, maybe 30 feet away. I booked it
into the garage, pulled the door down fast and watched him through one
of the door windows. He finally lost interest and trotted off
towards
my neighbor's house. They raise chickens. I think they will need to
do a head count tonight.

Made me think about what would happen if I had a gun and I was forced
to
shoot it if it had attacked or become more threatening. Need to
check
up on the laws about that.-

Sounds like Harry - who once said he carried because of "dog
packs."
I can't imagine being attacked by a coyote. They are naturally
fearful of me, with good reason. Dogs too.
Excepting Chihuahuas. Tiny dogs are stupid. I have one.
Instead of "booking" it into the garage, you should have just
growled at it as you approached it. Make a fist too.
Would have sent it away with its tail tucked.
Bears are another story.


-


You might want to consider doing some reading on a subject before you
shoot your mouth off. Attacks on humans are rare but they occur.
Coyotes have lost their fear of humans in many areas (including around
here) due to over population and regular encounters. They are also
disease ridden due to their diet.

I am sure a coyote would understand what making a fist was all about,
eh?

http://tinyurl.com/yzjq3u3





I remember reading about Taylor Mitchell shortly after her death. There
are some absolute numbskulls around who think "man" is the dominant
critter in the sorts of encounters being discussed here. Coyotes can run
around 40 pounds and have bodacious teeth, and there are many dogs
running loose who are significantly larger than coyotes and are very
hungry.

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On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 21:53:48 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/10/16 9:09 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Tue, 9 Feb 2016 19:23:59 -0600, Boating All Out
wrote:

Sounds like Harry - who once said he carried because of "dog
packs."
I can't imagine being attacked by a coyote. They are naturally
fearful of me, with good reason. Dogs too.
Excepting Chihuahuas. Tiny dogs are stupid. I have one.
Instead of "booking" it into the garage, you should have just
growled at it as you approached it. Make a fist too.
Would have sent it away with its tail tucked.
Bears are another story.

===

Dog packs are dangerous but they're more interested in deer than
anything else. Dogs, wolves, coyotes, etc., are all dangerous in
packs and capable of taking down some fairly large animals. They are
all natural born stalkers and hunters if given the chance.

Yep.
OTOH, a single coyote - all 35 pounds of him - isn't much.
Especially if you're bundled in winter clothes.
Everyone has their own way of dealing with these kind of
incidents. My inclination would be to scare it off
immediately, since I don't want it attacking my back.
You have to let any canine know who's boss.
What's scarier is being attacked by a skunk. They have poor
eyesight and have come right at me at night time.
That's when I beat feet.


There's no shortage of news stories about packs of feral dogs attacking
humans or the pets of humans.

Gosh, I've not seen these stories. Perhaps you could direct us to some sites? Humans
attacked by feral dog packs along the Shenandoah River? Please?
--

Ban liars, tax cheats, idiots, and narcissists...not guns!

Visitor
 

On 2/11/16 8:28 AM, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 21:53:48 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/10/16 9:09 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Tue, 9 Feb 2016 19:23:59 -0600, Boating All Out
wrote:

Sounds like Harry - who once said he carried because of "dog
packs."
I can't imagine being attacked by a coyote. They are naturally
fearful of me, with good reason. Dogs too.
Excepting Chihuahuas. Tiny dogs are stupid. I have one.
Instead of "booking" it into the garage, you should have just
growled at it as you approached it. Make a fist too.
Would have sent it away with its tail tucked.
Bears are another story.

===

Dog packs are dangerous but they're more interested in deer than
anything else. Dogs, wolves, coyotes, etc., are all dangerous in
packs and capable of taking down some fairly large animals. They are
all natural born stalkers and hunters if given the chance.

Yep.
OTOH, a single coyote - all 35 pounds of him - isn't much.
Especially if you're bundled in winter clothes.
Everyone has their own way of dealing with these kind of
incidents. My inclination would be to scare it off
immediately, since I don't want it attacking my back.
You have to let any canine know who's boss.
What's scarier is being attacked by a skunk. They have poor
eyesight and have come right at me at night time.
That's when I beat feet.


There's no shortage of news stories about packs of feral dogs attacking
humans or the pets of humans.

Gosh, I've not seen these stories. Perhaps you could direct us to some sites? Humans
attacked by feral dog packs along the Shenandoah River? Please?
--

Google is your friend. Perhaps you can find some examples of attacks by
black dogs on white peeples. :)

Visitor
 

On Thu, 11 Feb 2016 08:44:19 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/11/16 8:28 AM, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 21:53:48 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/10/16 9:09 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Tue, 9 Feb 2016 19:23:59 -0600, Boating All Out
wrote:

Sounds like Harry - who once said he carried because of "dog
packs."
I can't imagine being attacked by a coyote. They are naturally
fearful of me, with good reason. Dogs too.
Excepting Chihuahuas. Tiny dogs are stupid. I have one.
Instead of "booking" it into the garage, you should have just
growled at it as you approached it. Make a fist too.
Would have sent it away with its tail tucked.
Bears are another story.

===

Dog packs are dangerous but they're more interested in deer than
anything else. Dogs, wolves, coyotes, etc., are all dangerous in
packs and capable of taking down some fairly large animals. They are
all natural born stalkers and hunters if given the chance.

Yep.
OTOH, a single coyote - all 35 pounds of him - isn't much.
Especially if you're bundled in winter clothes.
Everyone has their own way of dealing with these kind of
incidents. My inclination would be to scare it off
immediately, since I don't want it attacking my back.
You have to let any canine know who's boss.
What's scarier is being attacked by a skunk. They have poor
eyesight and have come right at me at night time.
That's when I beat feet.


There's no shortage of news stories about packs of feral dogs attacking
humans or the pets of humans.

Gosh, I've not seen these stories. Perhaps you could direct us to some sites? Humans
attacked by feral dog packs along the Shenandoah River? Please?
--

Google is your friend. Perhaps you can find some examples of attacks by
black dogs on white peeples. :)



T'weren't me saying there's "...no shortage of news stories about packs of feral dogs
attacking humans or the pets of humans." It appears there is. Better make something
up to justify your 'carrying' when out there with the rest of your badass bunch
shooting at tree stumps.
--

Ban liars, tax cheats, idiots, and narcissists...not guns!

Visitor
 

On 2/11/16 8:55 AM, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 11 Feb 2016 08:44:19 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/11/16 8:28 AM, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 21:53:48 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/10/16 9:09 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Tue, 9 Feb 2016 19:23:59 -0600, Boating All Out
wrote:

Sounds like Harry - who once said he carried because of "dog
packs."
I can't imagine being attacked by a coyote. They are naturally
fearful of me, with good reason. Dogs too.
Excepting Chihuahuas. Tiny dogs are stupid. I have one.
Instead of "booking" it into the garage, you should have just
growled at it as you approached it. Make a fist too.
Would have sent it away with its tail tucked.
Bears are another story.

===

Dog packs are dangerous but they're more interested in deer than
anything else. Dogs, wolves, coyotes, etc., are all dangerous in
packs and capable of taking down some fairly large animals. They are
all natural born stalkers and hunters if given the chance.

Yep.
OTOH, a single coyote - all 35 pounds of him - isn't much.
Especially if you're bundled in winter clothes.
Everyone has their own way of dealing with these kind of
incidents. My inclination would be to scare it off
immediately, since I don't want it attacking my back.
You have to let any canine know who's boss.
What's scarier is being attacked by a skunk. They have poor
eyesight and have come right at me at night time.
That's when I beat feet.


There's no shortage of news stories about packs of feral dogs attacking
humans or the pets of humans.

Gosh, I've not seen these stories. Perhaps you could direct us to some sites? Humans
attacked by feral dog packs along the Shenandoah River? Please?
--

Google is your friend. Perhaps you can find some examples of attacks by
black dogs on white peeples. :)



T'weren't me saying there's "...no shortage of news stories about packs of feral dogs
attacking humans or the pets of humans." It appears there is. Better make something
up to justify your 'carrying' when out there with the rest of your badass bunch
shooting at tree stumps.
--


Easy to find. Perhaps your buddy Tim can help with your inability to
google.

Visitor
 

On Thu, 11 Feb 2016 08:44:19 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 2/11/16 8:28 AM, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 21:53:48 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/10/16 9:09 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Tue, 9 Feb 2016 19:23:59 -0600, Boating All Out
wrote:

Sounds like Harry - who once said he carried because of "dog
packs."
I can't imagine being attacked by a coyote. They are naturally
fearful of me, with good reason. Dogs too.
Excepting Chihuahuas. Tiny dogs are stupid. I have one.
Instead of "booking" it into the garage, you should have just
growled at it as you approached it. Make a fist too.
Would have sent it away with its tail tucked.
Bears are another story.

===

Dog packs are dangerous but they're more interested in deer than
anything else. Dogs, wolves, coyotes, etc., are all dangerous in
packs and capable of taking down some fairly large animals. They are
all natural born stalkers and hunters if given the chance.

Yep.
OTOH, a single coyote - all 35 pounds of him - isn't much.
Especially if you're bundled in winter clothes.
Everyone has their own way of dealing with these kind of
incidents. My inclination would be to scare it off
immediately, since I don't want it attacking my back.
You have to let any canine know who's boss.
What's scarier is being attacked by a skunk. They have poor
eyesight and have come right at me at night time.
That's when I beat feet.


There's no shortage of news stories about packs of feral dogs attacking
humans or the pets of humans.

Gosh, I've not seen these stories. Perhaps you could direct us to some sites? Humans
attacked by feral dog packs along the Shenandoah River? Please?
--

Google is your friend. Perhaps you can find some examples of attacks by
black dogs on white peeples. :)



===

The following search of Google for feral dog attacks in Virginia
turned up nothing relevant:

https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&gl=us&tbm=nws&authuser=0&q=feral+dog+ attacks+virginia&oq=feral+dog+attacks+virginia&gs_ l=news-cc.12..43j43i53.3904.3904.0.6039.1.1.0.0.0.0.75.75 .1.1.0...0.0...1ac.2.8e6WHAQdXK8

There was an incident in Virginia Beach where a stray dog killed a
family pet, and there was a stray dog attack at a zoo in Jackson,
Mississippi. Other than that, nada. It would appear that big pussy
Harry just likes to open carry.

Visitor
 

On 2/10/2016 9:53 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/10/16 9:09 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Tue, 9 Feb 2016 19:23:59 -0600, Boating All Out
wrote:

Sounds like Harry - who once said he carried because of "dog
packs."
I can't imagine being attacked by a coyote. They are naturally
fearful of me, with good reason. Dogs too.
Excepting Chihuahuas. Tiny dogs are stupid. I have one.
Instead of "booking" it into the garage, you should have just
growled at it as you approached it. Make a fist too.
Would have sent it away with its tail tucked.
Bears are another story.

===

Dog packs are dangerous but they're more interested in deer than
anything else. Dogs, wolves, coyotes, etc., are all dangerous in
packs and capable of taking down some fairly large animals. They are
all natural born stalkers and hunters if given the chance.

Yep.
OTOH, a single coyote - all 35 pounds of him - isn't much.
Especially if you're bundled in winter clothes.
Everyone has their own way of dealing with these kind of
incidents. My inclination would be to scare it off
immediately, since I don't want it attacking my back.
You have to let any canine know who's boss.
What's scarier is being attacked by a skunk. They have poor
eyesight and have come right at me at night time.
That's when I beat feet.


There's no shortage of news stories about packs of feral dogs attacking
humans or the pets of humans.

Cite 10 incidents. That should substantiate your claim. Otherwise you're
just a smelly old gas bag.

Visitor
 

On 2/10/2016 10:40 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 20:09:51 -0600, Boating All Out
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 9 Feb 2016 19:23:59 -0600, Boating All Out
wrote:

Sounds like Harry - who once said he carried because of "dog
packs."
I can't imagine being attacked by a coyote. They are naturally
fearful of me, with good reason. Dogs too.
Excepting Chihuahuas. Tiny dogs are stupid. I have one.
Instead of "booking" it into the garage, you should have just
growled at it as you approached it. Make a fist too.
Would have sent it away with its tail tucked.
Bears are another story.

===

Dog packs are dangerous but they're more interested in deer than
anything else. Dogs, wolves, coyotes, etc., are all dangerous in
packs and capable of taking down some fairly large animals. They are
all natural born stalkers and hunters if given the chance.

Yep.
OTOH, a single coyote - all 35 pounds of him - isn't much.
Especially if you're bundled in winter clothes.
Everyone has their own way of dealing with these kind of
incidents. My inclination would be to scare it off
immediately, since I don't want it attacking my back.
You have to let any canine know who's boss.

===

Here's an interesting YouTube video of a coyote stalking a human. It
might make you rethink your strategy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqVE9qfg7yI


Nah let him prove it for himself.

Visitor
 

On 2/11/2016 5:34 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/11/2016 2:31 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 20:09:51 -0600, Boating All Out
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 9 Feb 2016 19:23:59 -0600, Boating All Out
wrote:

Sounds like Harry - who once said he carried because of "dog
packs."
I can't imagine being attacked by a coyote. They are naturally
fearful of me, with good reason. Dogs too.
Excepting Chihuahuas. Tiny dogs are stupid. I have one.
Instead of "booking" it into the garage, you should have just
growled at it as you approached it. Make a fist too.
Would have sent it away with its tail tucked.
Bears are another story.

===

Dog packs are dangerous but they're more interested in deer than
anything else. Dogs, wolves, coyotes, etc., are all dangerous in
packs and capable of taking down some fairly large animals. They are
all natural born stalkers and hunters if given the chance.

Yep.
OTOH, a single coyote - all 35 pounds of him - isn't much.
Especially if you're bundled in winter clothes.
Everyone has their own way of dealing with these kind of
incidents. My inclination would be to scare it off
immediately, since I don't want it attacking my back.
You have to let any canine know who's boss.

===

Here's an interesting YouTube video of a coyote stalking a human. It
might make you rethink your strategy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqVE9qfg7yI

Good vid. No, it doesn't make me rethink. That guy was
playing around with it. He didn't want to give it a good kick.
Or maybe he wasn't capable of kicking. But he sure wasn't
afraid of it. He knew not to offer his back.



You are a trip. One one hand you claim that a coyote is naturally
fearful of humans and won't go after one anyway and then, (above) you
say "my inclination would be to scare if off immediately, since I don't
want it attacking my back." So which is it? Will it attack or not?

A coyote is not a dog. Any wild animal that can easily take down and
kill a deer deserves some respect. It's a lot smarter to avoid a
confrontation than to further encourage and add to it's experience in
dealing with humans. The increasing frequency of human contact is what
is causing them to lose their fear in the first place.

Can't say I admire your bravery. It's more like stupidity.






You nailed it.

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On 2/11/2016 6:01 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/11/2016 2:31 AM, Boating All Out wrote:

You have to let any canine know who's boss.

I chuckled when I read this.

We have a dog named "Fudge". Good sized mutt that my wife
rescued as a 1 year old pup from an abusive owner years ago.

Fudge is an awesome dog and is more affectionate to those he knows than
our other goofy black lab, "Sam Adams".

But God help any stranger who encounters Fudge in the house or outside
in the fenced-in area we made for him. You could throw all the rocks at
him you want, try to kick him, make fists at him and yell at him until
you're hoarse but he's still going to try to get you.
Doesn't like strangers at all, especially guys. I had to rescue a
landscaper who Fudge cornered once. The guy was yelling his head off at
him but the only thing that saved him was a five foot high aluminum pool
fence that was slowing Fudge down. He was trying to bite his way
through the fence to get to the guy.

Fudge would probably be no match for a wild coyote though.



I think I would dispute your last comment.

Visitor
 

On Thu, 11 Feb 2016 09:13:17 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 11 Feb 2016 08:44:19 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 2/11/16 8:28 AM, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 21:53:48 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/10/16 9:09 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Tue, 9 Feb 2016 19:23:59 -0600, Boating All Out
wrote:

Sounds like Harry - who once said he carried because of "dog
packs."
I can't imagine being attacked by a coyote. They are naturally
fearful of me, with good reason. Dogs too.
Excepting Chihuahuas. Tiny dogs are stupid. I have one.
Instead of "booking" it into the garage, you should have just
growled at it as you approached it. Make a fist too.
Would have sent it away with its tail tucked.
Bears are another story.

===

Dog packs are dangerous but they're more interested in deer than
anything else. Dogs, wolves, coyotes, etc., are all dangerous in
packs and capable of taking down some fairly large animals. They are
all natural born stalkers and hunters if given the chance.

Yep.
OTOH, a single coyote - all 35 pounds of him - isn't much.
Especially if you're bundled in winter clothes.
Everyone has their own way of dealing with these kind of
incidents. My inclination would be to scare it off
immediately, since I don't want it attacking my back.
You have to let any canine know who's boss.
What's scarier is being attacked by a skunk. They have poor
eyesight and have come right at me at night time.
That's when I beat feet.


There's no shortage of news stories about packs of feral dogs attacking
humans or the pets of humans.

Gosh, I've not seen these stories. Perhaps you could direct us to some sites? Humans
attacked by feral dog packs along the Shenandoah River? Please?
--

Google is your friend. Perhaps you can find some examples of attacks by
black dogs on white peeples. :)



===

The following search of Google for feral dog attacks in Virginia
turned up nothing relevant:

https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&gl=us&tbm=nws&authuser=0&q=feral+dog+ attacks+virginia&oq=feral+dog+attacks+virginia&gs_ l=news-cc.12..43j43i53.3904.3904.0.6039.1.1.0.0.0.0.75.75 .1.1.0...0.0...1ac.2.8e6WHAQdXK8

There was an incident in Virginia Beach where a stray dog killed a
family pet, and there was a stray dog attack at a zoo in Jackson,
Mississippi. Other than that, nada. It would appear that big pussy
Harry just likes to open carry.

It appears there is a shortage of such stories.
--

Ban liars, tax cheats, idiots, and narcissists...not guns!

Visitor
 

On 2/11/2016 9:21 AM, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 2/11/2016 6:01 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/11/2016 2:31 AM, Boating All Out wrote:

You have to let any canine know who's boss.

I chuckled when I read this.

We have a dog named "Fudge". Good sized mutt that my wife
rescued as a 1 year old pup from an abusive owner years ago.

Fudge is an awesome dog and is more affectionate to those he knows than
our other goofy black lab, "Sam Adams".

But God help any stranger who encounters Fudge in the house or outside
in the fenced-in area we made for him. You could throw all the rocks at
him you want, try to kick him, make fists at him and yell at him until
you're hoarse but he's still going to try to get you.
Doesn't like strangers at all, especially guys. I had to rescue a
landscaper who Fudge cornered once. The guy was yelling his head off at
him but the only thing that saved him was a five foot high aluminum pool
fence that was slowing Fudge down. He was trying to bite his way
through the fence to get to the guy.

Fudge would probably be no match for a wild coyote though.



I think I would dispute your last comment.

Ah, you've met Fudge. :-)

I don't know. A dog's instinct is to protect his territory. A coyote's
instinct is to kill to eat. It would be a messy fight though. Fudge is
an incredibly athletic and strong dog.

Visitor
 

On 2/11/2016 9:04 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/11/16 8:55 AM, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 11 Feb 2016 08:44:19 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/11/16 8:28 AM, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 21:53:48 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/10/16 9:09 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Tue, 9 Feb 2016 19:23:59 -0600, Boating All Out
wrote:

Sounds like Harry - who once said he carried because of "dog
packs."
I can't imagine being attacked by a coyote. They are naturally
fearful of me, with good reason. Dogs too.
Excepting Chihuahuas. Tiny dogs are stupid. I have one.
Instead of "booking" it into the garage, you should have just
growled at it as you approached it. Make a fist too.
Would have sent it away with its tail tucked.
Bears are another story.

===

Dog packs are dangerous but they're more interested in deer than
anything else. Dogs, wolves, coyotes, etc., are all dangerous in
packs and capable of taking down some fairly large animals. They
are
all natural born stalkers and hunters if given the chance.

Yep.
OTOH, a single coyote - all 35 pounds of him - isn't much.
Especially if you're bundled in winter clothes.
Everyone has their own way of dealing with these kind of
incidents. My inclination would be to scare it off
immediately, since I don't want it attacking my back.
You have to let any canine know who's boss.
What's scarier is being attacked by a skunk. They have poor
eyesight and have come right at me at night time.
That's when I beat feet.


There's no shortage of news stories about packs of feral dogs
attacking
humans or the pets of humans.

Gosh, I've not seen these stories. Perhaps you could direct us to
some sites? Humans
attacked by feral dog packs along the Shenandoah River? Please?
--

Google is your friend. Perhaps you can find some examples of attacks by
black dogs on white peeples. :)



T'weren't me saying there's "...no shortage of news stories about
packs of feral dogs
attacking humans or the pets of humans." It appears there is. Better
make something
up to justify your 'carrying' when out there with the rest of your
badass bunch
shooting at tree stumps.
--


Easy to find. Perhaps your buddy Tim can help with your inability to
google.

Can't back up your own assertions, eh. We've googled enough to prove
that you are 99% liar.
Had a bone density test lately?

Visitor
 

On 2/11/2016 9:13 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 11 Feb 2016 08:44:19 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 2/11/16 8:28 AM, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 21:53:48 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/10/16 9:09 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Tue, 9 Feb 2016 19:23:59 -0600, Boating All Out
wrote:

Sounds like Harry - who once said he carried because of "dog
packs."
I can't imagine being attacked by a coyote. They are naturally
fearful of me, with good reason. Dogs too.
Excepting Chihuahuas. Tiny dogs are stupid. I have one.
Instead of "booking" it into the garage, you should have just
growled at it as you approached it. Make a fist too.
Would have sent it away with its tail tucked.
Bears are another story.

===

Dog packs are dangerous but they're more interested in deer than
anything else. Dogs, wolves, coyotes, etc., are all dangerous in
packs and capable of taking down some fairly large animals. They are
all natural born stalkers and hunters if given the chance.

Yep.
OTOH, a single coyote - all 35 pounds of him - isn't much.
Especially if you're bundled in winter clothes.
Everyone has their own way of dealing with these kind of
incidents. My inclination would be to scare it off
immediately, since I don't want it attacking my back.
You have to let any canine know who's boss.
What's scarier is being attacked by a skunk. They have poor
eyesight and have come right at me at night time.
That's when I beat feet.


There's no shortage of news stories about packs of feral dogs attacking
humans or the pets of humans.

Gosh, I've not seen these stories. Perhaps you could direct us to some sites? Humans
attacked by feral dog packs along the Shenandoah River? Please?
--

Google is your friend. Perhaps you can find some examples of attacks by
black dogs on white peeples. :)



===

The following search of Google for feral dog attacks in Virginia
turned up nothing relevant:

https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&gl=us&tbm=nws&authuser=0&q=feral+dog+ attacks+virginia&oq=feral+dog+attacks+virginia&gs_ l=news-cc.12..43j43i53.3904.3904.0.6039.1.1.0.0.0.0.75.75 .1.1.0...0.0...1ac.2.8e6WHAQdXK8

There was an incident in Virginia Beach where a stray dog killed a
family pet, and there was a stray dog attack at a zoo in Jackson,
Mississippi. Other than that, nada. It would appear that big pussy
Harry just likes to open carry.

He's probably afraid one of his good buddies (wink) (wink) will turn on
him out in the woods near his one bed camp site.

Visitor
 

On Thu, 11 Feb 2016 10:02:19 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote:

On 2/11/2016 9:13 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 11 Feb 2016 08:44:19 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 2/11/16 8:28 AM, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 21:53:48 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/10/16 9:09 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Tue, 9 Feb 2016 19:23:59 -0600, Boating All Out
wrote:

Sounds like Harry - who once said he carried because of "dog
packs."
I can't imagine being attacked by a coyote. They are naturally
fearful of me, with good reason. Dogs too.
Excepting Chihuahuas. Tiny dogs are stupid. I have one.
Instead of "booking" it into the garage, you should have just
growled at it as you approached it. Make a fist too.
Would have sent it away with its tail tucked.
Bears are another story.

===

Dog packs are dangerous but they're more interested in deer than
anything else. Dogs, wolves, coyotes, etc., are all dangerous in
packs and capable of taking down some fairly large animals. They are
all natural born stalkers and hunters if given the chance.

Yep.
OTOH, a single coyote - all 35 pounds of him - isn't much.
Especially if you're bundled in winter clothes.
Everyone has their own way of dealing with these kind of
incidents. My inclination would be to scare it off
immediately, since I don't want it attacking my back.
You have to let any canine know who's boss.
What's scarier is being attacked by a skunk. They have poor
eyesight and have come right at me at night time.
That's when I beat feet.


There's no shortage of news stories about packs of feral dogs attacking
humans or the pets of humans.

Gosh, I've not seen these stories. Perhaps you could direct us to some sites? Humans
attacked by feral dog packs along the Shenandoah River? Please?
--

Google is your friend. Perhaps you can find some examples of attacks by
black dogs on white peeples. :)



===

The following search of Google for feral dog attacks in Virginia
turned up nothing relevant:

https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&gl=us&tbm=nws&authuser=0&q=feral+dog+ attacks+virginia&oq=feral+dog+attacks+virginia&gs_ l=news-cc.12..43j43i53.3904.3904.0.6039.1.1.0.0.0.0.75.75 .1.1.0...0.0...1ac.2.8e6WHAQdXK8

There was an incident in Virginia Beach where a stray dog killed a
family pet, and there was a stray dog attack at a zoo in Jackson,
Mississippi. Other than that, nada. It would appear that big pussy
Harry just likes to open carry.

He's probably afraid one of his good buddies (wink) (wink) will turn on
him out in the woods near his one bed camp site.

It's 24 degrees out there and windy as hell, and my dogs are bugging me to take them
for a walk. I think I'll take them out, let 'em freeze their butts off for a bit, and
then maybe they'll leave me alone.
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On Thu, 11 Feb 2016 08:04:54 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 2/11/16 2:21 AM, RGrew176 wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/yzjq3u3





I remember reading about Taylor Mitchell shortly after her death. There
are some absolute numbskulls around who think "man" is the dominant
critter in the sorts of encounters being discussed here. Coyotes can run
around 40 pounds and have bodacious teeth, and there are many dogs
running loose who are significantly larger than coyotes and are very
hungry.

So would you shoot the coyote or not?

We know you would mow down the pack of petulant pomeranians but I was
wondering about the "wild" animal.

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On Thu, 11 Feb 2016 08:44:19 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 2/11/16 8:28 AM, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 21:53:48 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/10/16 9:09 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Tue, 9 Feb 2016 19:23:59 -0600, Boating All Out
wrote:

Sounds like Harry - who once said he carried because of "dog
packs."
I can't imagine being attacked by a coyote. They are naturally
fearful of me, with good reason. Dogs too.
Excepting Chihuahuas. Tiny dogs are stupid. I have one.
Instead of "booking" it into the garage, you should have just
growled at it as you approached it. Make a fist too.
Would have sent it away with its tail tucked.
Bears are another story.

===

Dog packs are dangerous but they're more interested in deer than
anything else. Dogs, wolves, coyotes, etc., are all dangerous in
packs and capable of taking down some fairly large animals. They are
all natural born stalkers and hunters if given the chance.

Yep.
OTOH, a single coyote - all 35 pounds of him - isn't much.
Especially if you're bundled in winter clothes.
Everyone has their own way of dealing with these kind of
incidents. My inclination would be to scare it off
immediately, since I don't want it attacking my back.
You have to let any canine know who's boss.
What's scarier is being attacked by a skunk. They have poor
eyesight and have come right at me at night time.
That's when I beat feet.


There's no shortage of news stories about packs of feral dogs attacking
humans or the pets of humans.

Gosh, I've not seen these stories. Perhaps you could direct us to some sites? Humans
attacked by feral dog packs along the Shenandoah River? Please?
--

Google is your friend. Perhaps you can find some examples of attacks by
black dogs on white peeples. :)



I was able to find a handful, going back 10 years or so, less than one
a year tho. It is far less than bee sting deaths and most of the
people attacked by dog packs survived.
It is also unclear how many of these "dogs" might have been coyotes or
even wolves since some happened out west.
Your chances of being killed by a feral dog pack is certainly less
than a random crime by a human and that is still very rare.
Bear in mind, most dog attacks are from "pets" not feral packs.

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On Thu, 11 Feb 2016 09:42:53 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 2/11/2016 9:21 AM, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 2/11/2016 6:01 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/11/2016 2:31 AM, Boating All Out wrote:

You have to let any canine know who's boss.

I chuckled when I read this.

We have a dog named "Fudge". Good sized mutt that my wife
rescued as a 1 year old pup from an abusive owner years ago.

Fudge is an awesome dog and is more affectionate to those he knows than
our other goofy black lab, "Sam Adams".

But God help any stranger who encounters Fudge in the house or outside
in the fenced-in area we made for him. You could throw all the rocks at
him you want, try to kick him, make fists at him and yell at him until
you're hoarse but he's still going to try to get you.
Doesn't like strangers at all, especially guys. I had to rescue a
landscaper who Fudge cornered once. The guy was yelling his head off at
him but the only thing that saved him was a five foot high aluminum pool
fence that was slowing Fudge down. He was trying to bite his way
through the fence to get to the guy.

Fudge would probably be no match for a wild coyote though.



I think I would dispute your last comment.

Ah, you've met Fudge. :-)

I don't know. A dog's instinct is to protect his territory. A coyote's
instinct is to kill to eat. It would be a messy fight though. Fudge is
an incredibly athletic and strong dog.

I doubt a coyote would screw with Ed. He would be giving up 70-80
pounds but the dog I have had that would give him the most trouble
would be Auggie, a bulldog/hound mix. I got him from the pound but the
good old boys around here said he looked like a "hog dog", the dogs
they use to run wild hogs. He was short but 75 pounds of solid muscle.
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Auggie%20on%20watch.jpg

Visitor
 

On 2/11/2016 1:09 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 11 Feb 2016 09:42:53 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 2/11/2016 9:21 AM, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 2/11/2016 6:01 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/11/2016 2:31 AM, Boating All Out wrote:

You have to let any canine know who's boss.

I chuckled when I read this.

We have a dog named "Fudge". Good sized mutt that my wife
rescued as a 1 year old pup from an abusive owner years ago.

Fudge is an awesome dog and is more affectionate to those he knows than
our other goofy black lab, "Sam Adams".

But God help any stranger who encounters Fudge in the house or outside
in the fenced-in area we made for him. You could throw all the rocks at
him you want, try to kick him, make fists at him and yell at him until
you're hoarse but he's still going to try to get you.
Doesn't like strangers at all, especially guys. I had to rescue a
landscaper who Fudge cornered once. The guy was yelling his head off at
him but the only thing that saved him was a five foot high aluminum pool
fence that was slowing Fudge down. He was trying to bite his way
through the fence to get to the guy.

Fudge would probably be no match for a wild coyote though.



I think I would dispute your last comment.

Ah, you've met Fudge. :-)

I don't know. A dog's instinct is to protect his territory. A coyote's
instinct is to kill to eat. It would be a messy fight though. Fudge is
an incredibly athletic and strong dog.

I doubt a coyote would screw with Ed. He would be giving up 70-80
pounds but the dog I have had that would give him the most trouble
would be Auggie, a bulldog/hound mix. I got him from the pound but the
good old boys around here said he looked like a "hog dog", the dogs
they use to run wild hogs. He was short but 75 pounds of solid muscle.
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Auggie%20on%20watch.jpg


The big difference is their instincts vs domestication. A dog that has
been domesticated since a puppy basically keeps a "puppy" mentality all
his life. He doesn't have to hunt and kill for food. A wild dog that
has never been in the care of humans will act more like a wolf or coyote
and instincts take over. A coyote knows to go for the throat of
whatever he's trying to kill. A scared dog might just bite you in the ass.

Visitor
 

Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/11/2016 9:21 AM, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 2/11/2016 6:01 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/11/2016 2:31 AM, Boating All Out wrote:

You have to let any canine know who's boss.

I chuckled when I read this.

We have a dog named "Fudge". Good sized mutt that my wife
rescued as a 1 year old pup from an abusive owner years ago.

Fudge is an awesome dog and is more affectionate to those he knows than
our other goofy black lab, "Sam Adams".

But God help any stranger who encounters Fudge in the house or outside
in the fenced-in area we made for him. You could throw all the rocks at
him you want, try to kick him, make fists at him and yell at him until
you're hoarse but he's still going to try to get you.
Doesn't like strangers at all, especially guys. I had to rescue a
landscaper who Fudge cornered once. The guy was yelling his head off at
him but the only thing that saved him was a five foot high aluminum pool
fence that was slowing Fudge down. He was trying to bite his way
through the fence to get to the guy.

Fudge would probably be no match for a wild coyote though.



I think I would dispute your last comment.

Ah, you've met Fudge. :-)

I don't know. A dog's instinct is to protect his territory. A coyote's
instinct is to kill to eat. It would be a messy fight though. Fudge is
an incredibly athletic and strong dog.


At least here in California the coyotes seem to attack dogs in packs.
Friends in San Marcos did not leave the dog out at night because of
coyotes. They were in a rural,area and the coyotes took a lot of outdoor
pets.

Visitor
 

On Thursday, February 11, 2016 at 1:31:59 PM UTC-5, Califbill wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/11/2016 9:21 AM, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 2/11/2016 6:01 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/11/2016 2:31 AM, Boating All Out wrote:

You have to let any canine know who's boss.

I chuckled when I read this.

We have a dog named "Fudge". Good sized mutt that my wife
rescued as a 1 year old pup from an abusive owner years ago.

Fudge is an awesome dog and is more affectionate to those he knows than
our other goofy black lab, "Sam Adams".

But God help any stranger who encounters Fudge in the house or outside
in the fenced-in area we made for him. You could throw all the rocks at
him you want, try to kick him, make fists at him and yell at him until
you're hoarse but he's still going to try to get you.
Doesn't like strangers at all, especially guys. I had to rescue a
landscaper who Fudge cornered once. The guy was yelling his head off at
him but the only thing that saved him was a five foot high aluminum pool
fence that was slowing Fudge down. He was trying to bite his way
through the fence to get to the guy.

Fudge would probably be no match for a wild coyote though.



I think I would dispute your last comment.

Ah, you've met Fudge. :-)

I don't know. A dog's instinct is to protect his territory. A coyote's
instinct is to kill to eat. It would be a messy fight though. Fudge is
an incredibly athletic and strong dog.


At least here in California the coyotes seem to attack dogs in packs.
Friends in San Marcos did not leave the dog out at night because of
coyotes. They were in a rural,area and the coyotes took a lot of outdoor
pets.

That's what everyone keeps missing. There's never just *one* coyote, there's at least two and usually more. I have a 70lb black lab. He *might* get lucky in a short fight with one coyote, but there's little doubt he'd fail against two or more.

Visitor
 

But Krause said

There's no shortage of news stories about packs of feral dogs attacking
humans or the pets of humans.

Visitor
 

On 2/11/2016 1:18 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/11/2016 1:09 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 11 Feb 2016 09:42:53 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 2/11/2016 9:21 AM, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 2/11/2016 6:01 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/11/2016 2:31 AM, Boating All Out wrote:

You have to let any canine know who's boss.

I chuckled when I read this.

We have a dog named "Fudge". Good sized mutt that my wife
rescued as a 1 year old pup from an abusive owner years ago.

Fudge is an awesome dog and is more affectionate to those he knows
than
our other goofy black lab, "Sam Adams".

But God help any stranger who encounters Fudge in the house or outside
in the fenced-in area we made for him. You could throw all the
rocks at
him you want, try to kick him, make fists at him and yell at him until
you're hoarse but he's still going to try to get you.
Doesn't like strangers at all, especially guys. I had to rescue a
landscaper who Fudge cornered once. The guy was yelling his head
off at
him but the only thing that saved him was a five foot high aluminum
pool
fence that was slowing Fudge down. He was trying to bite his way
through the fence to get to the guy.

Fudge would probably be no match for a wild coyote though.



I think I would dispute your last comment.

Ah, you've met Fudge. :-)

I don't know. A dog's instinct is to protect his territory. A coyote's
instinct is to kill to eat. It would be a messy fight though. Fudge is
an incredibly athletic and strong dog.

I doubt a coyote would screw with Ed. He would be giving up 70-80
pounds but the dog I have had that would give him the most trouble
would be Auggie, a bulldog/hound mix. I got him from the pound but the
good old boys around here said he looked like a "hog dog", the dogs
they use to run wild hogs. He was short but 75 pounds of solid muscle.
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Auggie%20on%20watch.jpg


The big difference is their instincts vs domestication. A dog that has
been domesticated since a puppy basically keeps a "puppy" mentality all
his life. He doesn't have to hunt and kill for food. A wild dog that
has never been in the care of humans will act more like a wolf or coyote
and instincts take over. A coyote knows to go for the throat of
whatever he's trying to kill. A scared dog might just bite you in the ass.


Show us a picturer of that mean hombre of yours.

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On Thu, 11 Feb 2016 13:02:01 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 11 Feb 2016 08:44:19 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 2/11/16 8:28 AM, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 21:53:48 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/10/16 9:09 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Tue, 9 Feb 2016 19:23:59 -0600, Boating All Out
wrote:

Sounds like Harry - who once said he carried because of "dog
packs."
I can't imagine being attacked by a coyote. They are naturally
fearful of me, with good reason. Dogs too.
Excepting Chihuahuas. Tiny dogs are stupid. I have one.
Instead of "booking" it into the garage, you should have just
growled at it as you approached it. Make a fist too.
Would have sent it away with its tail tucked.
Bears are another story.

===

Dog packs are dangerous but they're more interested in deer than
anything else. Dogs, wolves, coyotes, etc., are all dangerous in
packs and capable of taking down some fairly large animals. They are
all natural born stalkers and hunters if given the chance.

Yep.
OTOH, a single coyote - all 35 pounds of him - isn't much.
Especially if you're bundled in winter clothes.
Everyone has their own way of dealing with these kind of
incidents. My inclination would be to scare it off
immediately, since I don't want it attacking my back.
You have to let any canine know who's boss.
What's scarier is being attacked by a skunk. They have poor
eyesight and have come right at me at night time.
That's when I beat feet.


There's no shortage of news stories about packs of feral dogs attacking
humans or the pets of humans.

Gosh, I've not seen these stories. Perhaps you could direct us to some sites? Humans
attacked by feral dog packs along the Shenandoah River? Please?
--

Google is your friend. Perhaps you can find some examples of attacks by
black dogs on white peeples. :)



I was able to find a handful, going back 10 years or so, less than one
a year tho. It is far less than bee sting deaths and most of the
people attacked by dog packs survived.
It is also unclear how many of these "dogs" might have been coyotes or
even wolves since some happened out west.
Your chances of being killed by a feral dog pack is certainly less
than a random crime by a human and that is still very rare.
Bear in mind, most dog attacks are from "pets" not feral packs.

And these were along the Shenandoah River?
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