"The incident comes after the nation's third largest city recorded 51 homicides in
January, the highest toll for the month since at least 2000. Gang conflicts and
retaliatory violence drove the surge in homicides, police said.

In addition to the jump in killings, the police department said it recorded 241
shooting incidents in January, more than double the 119 incidents recorded last
January."

Gun control doesn't seem to be working too well.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2...cago/79868386/
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Ban idiots, not guns!

1:26 PMJohn H.
"The incident comes after the nation's third largest city recorded 51 homicides in
January, the highest toll for the month since at least 2000. Gang conflicts and
retaliatory violence drove the surge in homicides, police said.

In addition to the jump in killings, the police department said it recorded 241
shooting incidents in January, more than double the 119 incidents recorded last
January."

Gun control doesn't seem to be working too well.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2...cago/79868386/
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Ban idiots, not guns!

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It's a way of life there, John.

On Fri, 5 Feb 2016 12:30:24 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:

1:26 PMJohn H.
"The incident comes after the nation's third largest city recorded 51 homicides in
January, the highest toll for the month since at least 2000. Gang conflicts and
retaliatory violence drove the surge in homicides, police said.

In addition to the jump in killings, the police department said it recorded 241
shooting incidents in January, more than double the 119 incidents recorded last
January."

Gun control doesn't seem to be working too well.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2...cago/79868386/

It's a way of life there, John.

Yup, under about the most stringent gun control laws in the nation.
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Ban idiots, not guns!

On Fri, 5 Feb 2016 12:30:24 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:

1:26 PMJohn H.
"The incident comes after the nation's third largest city recorded 51 homicides in
January, the highest toll for the month since at least 2000. Gang conflicts and
retaliatory violence drove the surge in homicides, police said.

In addition to the jump in killings, the police department said it recorded 241
shooting incidents in January, more than double the 119 incidents recorded last
January."

Gun control doesn't seem to be working too well.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2...cago/79868386/

It's a way of life there, John.

Yup, under about the most stringent gun control laws in the nation.
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St. Louis Mo is getting just about as bad is not worse...

On Fri, 5 Feb 2016 13:43:45 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:

On Fri, 5 Feb 2016 12:30:24 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:

1:26 PMJohn H.
"The incident comes after the nation's third largest city recorded 51 homicides in
January, the highest toll for the month since at least 2000. Gang conflicts and
retaliatory violence drove the surge in homicides, police said.

In addition to the jump in killings, the police department said it recorded 241
shooting incidents in January, more than double the 119 incidents recorded last
January."

Gun control doesn't seem to be working too well.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2...cago/79868386/

It's a way of life there, John.

Yup, under about the most stringent gun control laws in the nation.
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St. Louis Mo is getting just about as bad is not worse...

What is different about our big troubled cities than say Toronto, Montreal, or
Calgary, Canada.
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Ban idiots, not guns!

Johnny sez..

"What is different about our big troubled cities than say Toronto, Montreal, or
Calgary, Canada."


That's easy.
Y'all have too many gun nut 'mericans....armed to the teeth and itching to use 'em.

On Fri, 5 Feb 2016 15:24:46 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:

Johnny sez..

"What is different about our big troubled cities than say Toronto, Montreal, or
Calgary, Canada."


That's easy.
Y'all have too many gun nut 'mericans....armed to the teeth and itching to use 'em.

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You're wrong about that, at least depending on your definition of a
"gun nut". The guys committing the murders are not collectors and
target shooters. They're mostly gang members and/or drug dealers
defending their turf. I don't really know enough about Canadian
cities and their culture to understand why they don't have the same
problem. Perhaps it's related to a different inner city culture but I
don't really know. I'm sure there must be at least a few gangs in
Canada, and I know there are drug issues. Maybe they've found a less
violent way to resolve disputes. Or perhaps the US "war on drugs" has
had some unintended side effects.

On Friday, February 5, 2016 at 7:21:11 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Fri, 5 Feb 2016 15:24:46 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:

Johnny sez..

"What is different about our big troubled cities than say Toronto, Montreal, or
Calgary, Canada."


That's easy.
Y'all have too many gun nut 'mericans....armed to the teeth and itching to use 'em.

===

You're wrong about that, at least depending on your definition of a
"gun nut". The guys committing the murders are not collectors and
target shooters. They're mostly gang members and/or drug dealers
defending their turf. I don't really know enough about Canadian
cities and their culture to understand why they don't have the same
problem. Perhaps it's related to a different inner city culture but I
don't really know. I'm sure there must be at least a few gangs in
Canada, and I know there are drug issues. Maybe they've found a less
violent way to resolve disputes. Or perhaps the US "war on drugs" has
had some unintended side effects.

Toronto isn't without its problems.

http://www.thestar.com/news/crime/torontocrimemaps.html

On Fri, 5 Feb 2016 15:24:46 -0800 (PST), True North wrote:

Johnny sez..

"What is different about our big troubled cities than say Toronto, Montreal, or
Calgary, Canada."


That's easy.
Y'all have too many gun nut 'mericans....armed to the teeth and itching to use 'em.

I would bet that 95% of the recent Chicago shooters own one or maybe two guns. Folks
like Harry, owning many guns, aren't the ones doing all the shootings. That's why the
idea of destroying all but three guns is simply stupid.

I suppose I fit your 'gun nut' definition, along with Harry and a few others here,
and I do enjoy using them - at the range shooting targets.
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Ban idiots, not guns!

On 2/5/2016 6:24 PM, True North wrote:
Johnny sez..

"What is different about our big troubled cities than say Toronto, Montreal, or
Calgary, Canada."


That's easy.
Y'all have too many gun nut 'mericans....armed to the teeth and itching to use 'em.

The boy genius has it all figgered out, eh. What a simpleton.