On Thu, 4 Feb 2016 09:26:55 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 2/4/2016 8:56 AM, True North wrote:

John H.
- show quoted text -
"So what. In 1965 I was making $72/month. But, my food, clothing and shelter were all
free. And I didn't have to pay for ammo."

.....and you were grossly overpaid at that!



I distinctly remember paydays early in my Navy days on the first ship.
Every two weeks the crew lined up in and outside the mess decks to be
paid. When my turn came, I'd present my ID card and the dispersing
officer would hand me a small, manilla envelope with all $50 and some
change in it. We were paid in cash back then. Now-a-days everything
is direct deposit.



Cash was king back then. When I got married, my wife got a $95 check - a 'class Q
allotment', I believe they called it. They took $50 from my pay and added $45 to get
the $95 for her. That left me about $45, before taxes. I'd gotten promoted before
getting married so my pay was up close to $90 by then. Of course, the food and
lodging were no longer free!
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

On Thu, 04 Feb 2016 08:49:01 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 03 Feb 2016 23:05:31 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 03 Feb 2016 19:53:39 -0500, wrote:


Yup $435 a month and don't spend it all in one place ;-)

===

What year was that? In 1965 I had a summer job with Western Electric
installing central office telephone equipment in Binghamton, NY. With
over time and allowances was taking home over $200/week - thought I'd
died and gone to heaven. It was not easy work but it sure paid well
for a summer job in the 60s.

So what. In 1965 I was making $72/month. But, my food, clothing and shelter were all
free. And I didn't have to pay for ammo.

Same here, that is why the $435 looked so good to me in 66

I was actually an E-3 with sea pay and pro-pay by the end of 65 so it
was a bit better tho. I think the whole package was still less than
$130 a month.

On Thu, 4 Feb 2016 09:26:55 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 2/4/2016 8:56 AM, True North wrote:

John H.
- show quoted text -
"So what. In 1965 I was making $72/month. But, my food, clothing and shelter were all
free. And I didn't have to pay for ammo."

.....and you were grossly overpaid at that!



I distinctly remember paydays early in my Navy days on the first ship.
Every two weeks the crew lined up in and outside the mess decks to be
paid. When my turn came, I'd present my ID card and the dispersing
officer would hand me a small, manilla envelope with all $50 and some
change in it. We were paid in cash back then. Now-a-days everything
is direct deposit.



I went to the bank with the quartermaster a few times. I think the
whole crew made less than $25,000 but it was all cash.
They took the chief Gunners mate and one other (armed) guy.
Our 45s were condition 4, mostly just for show but we did have 3
loaded mags.

wrote:
On Thu, 04 Feb 2016 08:49:01 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 03 Feb 2016 23:05:31 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 03 Feb 2016 19:53:39 -0500, wrote:


Yup $435 a month and don't spend it all in one place ;-)

===

What year was that? In 1965 I had a summer job with Western Electric
installing central office telephone equipment in Binghamton, NY. With
over time and allowances was taking home over $200/week - thought I'd
died and gone to heaven. It was not easy work but it sure paid well
for a summer job in the 60s.

So what. In 1965 I was making $72/month. But, my food, clothing and shelter were all
free. And I didn't have to pay for ammo.

Same here, that is why the $435 looked so good to me in 66

I was actually an E-3 with sea pay and pro-pay by the end of 65 so it
was a bit better tho. I think the whole package was still less than
$130 a month.


I worked for NCR and had graduated their computer school, so I was making
$120 a week when the draft notice caught up with me. So I joined the AF
reserves and want off the basic and tech school for 45 weeks. 6 weeks
basic and 39 weeks ILS and ground radio nav AIDS school. Making $65 a
month and paying my $62 car payment from savings. I did cut 10 weeks off
the basic electronics part of the course. The AF would let you challenge
the modules, and they set up a class for 8 of us, who knew electronics.
Then back to NCR at end of 1965 to making $500 a month. Which was decent.
Figure my first new car was a 1964 Chevy SS Impala hat was $3374 out the
door in November of 1963. In school pay for NCR was $95 a week and was $25
a week in a rooming house.

On Thu, 04 Feb 2016 10:58:46 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Thu, 4 Feb 2016 09:26:55 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 2/4/2016 8:56 AM, True North wrote:

John H.
- show quoted text -
"So what. In 1965 I was making $72/month. But, my food, clothing and shelter were all
free. And I didn't have to pay for ammo."

.....and you were grossly overpaid at that!



I distinctly remember paydays early in my Navy days on the first ship.
Every two weeks the crew lined up in and outside the mess decks to be
paid. When my turn came, I'd present my ID card and the dispersing
officer would hand me a small, manilla envelope with all $50 and some
change in it. We were paid in cash back then. Now-a-days everything
is direct deposit.



Cash was king back then. When I got married, my wife got a $95 check - a 'class Q
allotment', I believe they called it. They took $50 from my pay and added $45 to get
the $95 for her. That left me about $45, before taxes. I'd gotten promoted before
getting married so my pay was up close to $90 by then. Of course, the food and
lodging were no longer free!

What was comrats then? a buck a day? I do remember the old "off base"
guys paying a buck or so for lunch when I was in FT school. In those
days the chow was real good and it was certainly a bargain.
The only rule was "take all you want, eat all you take".

On 2/4/16 12:59 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 04 Feb 2016 10:58:46 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Thu, 4 Feb 2016 09:26:55 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 2/4/2016 8:56 AM, True North wrote:

John H.
- show quoted text -
"So what. In 1965 I was making $72/month. But, my food, clothing and shelter were all
free. And I didn't have to pay for ammo."

.....and you were grossly overpaid at that!



I distinctly remember paydays early in my Navy days on the first ship.
Every two weeks the crew lined up in and outside the mess decks to be
paid. When my turn came, I'd present my ID card and the dispersing
officer would hand me a small, manilla envelope with all $50 and some
change in it. We were paid in cash back then. Now-a-days everything
is direct deposit.



Cash was king back then. When I got married, my wife got a $95 check - a 'class Q
allotment', I believe they called it. They took $50 from my pay and added $45 to get
the $95 for her. That left me about $45, before taxes. I'd gotten promoted before
getting married so my pay was up close to $90 by then. Of course, the food and
lodging were no longer free!

What was comrats then? a buck a day? I do remember the old "off base"
guys paying a buck or so for lunch when I was in FT school. In those
days the chow was real good and it was certainly a bargain.
The only rule was "take all you want, eat all you take".


We got paid in cash when I worked for the Bigelow Boiler Company in New
Haven. Every Friday afternoon just before quitting time an armored truck
would roll into the factory yard and we'd line up to get our pay
envelopes. In '63 or '64, I recall. The office workers got paid in
checks every two weeks.

On Thu, 4 Feb 2016 09:01:24 -0800, Califbill billnews wrote:

wrote:
On Thu, 04 Feb 2016 08:49:01 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 03 Feb 2016 23:05:31 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 03 Feb 2016 19:53:39 -0500, wrote:


Yup $435 a month and don't spend it all in one place ;-)

===

What year was that? In 1965 I had a summer job with Western Electric
installing central office telephone equipment in Binghamton, NY. With
over time and allowances was taking home over $200/week - thought I'd
died and gone to heaven. It was not easy work but it sure paid well
for a summer job in the 60s.

So what. In 1965 I was making $72/month. But, my food, clothing and shelter were all
free. And I didn't have to pay for ammo.

Same here, that is why the $435 looked so good to me in 66

I was actually an E-3 with sea pay and pro-pay by the end of 65 so it
was a bit better tho. I think the whole package was still less than
$130 a month.


I worked for NCR and had graduated their computer school, so I was making
$120 a week when the draft notice caught up with me. So I joined the AF
reserves and want off the basic and tech school for 45 weeks. 6 weeks
basic and 39 weeks ILS and ground radio nav AIDS school. Making $65 a
month and paying my $62 car payment from savings. I did cut 10 weeks off
the basic electronics part of the course. The AF would let you challenge
the modules, and they set up a class for 8 of us, who knew electronics.
Then back to NCR at end of 1965 to making $500 a month. Which was decent.
Figure my first new car was a 1964 Chevy SS Impala hat was $3374 out the
door in November of 1963. In school pay for NCR was $95 a week and was $25
a week in a rooming house.

I am not sure if I could have tested out of anything in FT school but
I never tried. It was easy to just coast and before long I had a tutor
gig going. I got the E-5 barracks commander through the course and
that was a good chip to have in my pocket. ;-)
If he failed, he would be back in the fleet busted and with a 6 year
commitment. ... and he was in trouble.
For me FT school was an 18 week party. I don't remember any of it
being particularly challenging. Of course going over the class
material every night in the barracks with the boss and a couple other
guys firmed it up in my head. I ended up taking notes for my "class"
as much as for me. I concentrated on trying to dumb down what the
instructor said and summarizing it in simple terms.

On 2/4/2016 1:09 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/4/16 12:59 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 04 Feb 2016 10:58:46 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Thu, 4 Feb 2016 09:26:55 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 2/4/2016 8:56 AM, True North wrote:

John H.
- show quoted text -
"So what. In 1965 I was making $72/month. But, my food, clothing
and shelter were all
free. And I didn't have to pay for ammo."

.....and you were grossly overpaid at that!



I distinctly remember paydays early in my Navy days on the first ship.
Every two weeks the crew lined up in and outside the mess decks to be
paid. When my turn came, I'd present my ID card and the dispersing
officer would hand me a small, manilla envelope with all $50 and some
change in it. We were paid in cash back then. Now-a-days everything
is direct deposit.



Cash was king back then. When I got married, my wife got a $95 check
- a 'class Q
allotment', I believe they called it. They took $50 from my pay and
added $45 to get
the $95 for her. That left me about $45, before taxes. I'd gotten
promoted before
getting married so my pay was up close to $90 by then. Of course, the
food and
lodging were no longer free!

What was comrats then? a buck a day? I do remember the old "off base"
guys paying a buck or so for lunch when I was in FT school. In those
days the chow was real good and it was certainly a bargain.
The only rule was "take all you want, eat all you take".


We got paid in cash when I worked for the Bigelow Boiler Company in New
Haven. Every Friday afternoon just before quitting time an armored truck
would roll into the factory yard and we'd line up to get our pay
envelopes. In '63 or '64, I recall. The office workers got paid in
checks every two weeks.


Sorry for chuckling Harry but your post strikes me as being funny.
The vets here are reminiscing about 1960's military pay in the Army,
Navy and Coast Guard and you offer your experience with the Bigelow
Boiler Company. LOL (sorry ... just hit my funny bone)

On Thu, 04 Feb 2016 12:59:05 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 04 Feb 2016 10:58:46 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Thu, 4 Feb 2016 09:26:55 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 2/4/2016 8:56 AM, True North wrote:

John H.
- show quoted text -
"So what. In 1965 I was making $72/month. But, my food, clothing and shelter were all
free. And I didn't have to pay for ammo."

.....and you were grossly overpaid at that!



I distinctly remember paydays early in my Navy days on the first ship.
Every two weeks the crew lined up in and outside the mess decks to be
paid. When my turn came, I'd present my ID card and the dispersing
officer would hand me a small, manilla envelope with all $50 and some
change in it. We were paid in cash back then. Now-a-days everything
is direct deposit.



Cash was king back then. When I got married, my wife got a $95 check - a 'class Q
allotment', I believe they called it. They took $50 from my pay and added $45 to get
the $95 for her. That left me about $45, before taxes. I'd gotten promoted before
getting married so my pay was up close to $90 by then. Of course, the food and
lodging were no longer free!

What was comrats then? a buck a day? I do remember the old "off base"
guys paying a buck or so for lunch when I was in FT school. In those
days the chow was real good and it was certainly a bargain.
The only rule was "take all you want, eat all you take".

Couldn't have been a buck. My separate rations pay was only $48 a month, as I recall.
Oh, and I forgot I was also getting a quarters allowance of $55 a month. Damn, we
were rolling in the dough.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

On Thu, 4 Feb 2016 13:09:32 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/4/16 12:59 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 04 Feb 2016 10:58:46 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Thu, 4 Feb 2016 09:26:55 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 2/4/2016 8:56 AM, True North wrote:

John H.
- show quoted text -
"So what. In 1965 I was making $72/month. But, my food, clothing and shelter were all
free. And I didn't have to pay for ammo."

.....and you were grossly overpaid at that!



I distinctly remember paydays early in my Navy days on the first ship.
Every two weeks the crew lined up in and outside the mess decks to be
paid. When my turn came, I'd present my ID card and the dispersing
officer would hand me a small, manilla envelope with all $50 and some
change in it. We were paid in cash back then. Now-a-days everything
is direct deposit.



Cash was king back then. When I got married, my wife got a $95 check - a 'class Q
allotment', I believe they called it. They took $50 from my pay and added $45 to get
the $95 for her. That left me about $45, before taxes. I'd gotten promoted before
getting married so my pay was up close to $90 by then. Of course, the food and
lodging were no longer free!

What was comrats then? a buck a day? I do remember the old "off base"
guys paying a buck or so for lunch when I was in FT school. In those
days the chow was real good and it was certainly a bargain.
The only rule was "take all you want, eat all you take".


We got paid in cash when I worked for the Bigelow Boiler Company in New
Haven. Every Friday afternoon just before quitting time an armored truck
would roll into the factory yard and we'd line up to get our pay
envelopes. In '63 or '64, I recall. The office workers got paid in
checks every two weeks.


I was paid in cash when I was a Teamster too, At Swift I got a W2, at
Brestler it was just money.