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On 1/25/16 9:08 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/25/2016 7:08 AM, John H. wrote: On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 16:59:43 -0500, wrote: On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 16:20:58 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: You of course miss the point. The point is that it is a governmental requirement in this country to provide potable water. The Republican led government of Michigan failed Flint. So did the democrat led EPA. You keep glazing over that. And the Democrat mayor. Harry has a special, custom app that absolves any any and all Democrats. The Republican governor of Michigan has total charge and complete responsibility for Flint. He controls it. There's an interesting news story circulating that states the Detroit water company was willing to cut Flint a terrific deal on the price of water, one that would have avoided using the Flint river, but the governor nixed that because he wants to put financial pressure on the publicly owned Detroit company in order to privatize it. |
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8:53 AMKeyser Söze
- show quoted text - The Republican governor of Michigan has total charge and complete responsibility for Flint. He controls it. There's an interesting news story circulating that states the Detroit water company was willing to cut Flint a terrific deal on the price of water, one that would have avoided using the Flint river, but the governor nixed that because he wants to put financial pressure on the publicly owned Detroit company in order to privatize it. ......... Really? I thought you said he did it to kill off black folks. Pretty sure you did... |
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Tim wrote:
8:53 AMKeyser Söze - show quoted text - The Republican governor of Michigan has total charge and complete responsibility for Flint. He controls it. There's an interesting news story circulating that states the Detroit water company was willing to cut Flint a terrific deal on the price of water, one that would have avoided using the Flint river, but the governor nixed that because he wants to put financial pressure on the publicly owned Detroit company in order to privatize it. ........ Really? I thought you said he did it to kill off black folks. Pretty sure you did... D'oh. -- Sent from my iPhone 6+ |
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On Mon, 25 Jan 2016 09:53:20 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/25/16 9:08 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 1/25/2016 7:08 AM, John H. wrote: On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 16:59:43 -0500, wrote: On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 16:20:58 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: You of course miss the point. The point is that it is a governmental requirement in this country to provide potable water. The Republican led government of Michigan failed Flint. So did the democrat led EPA. You keep glazing over that. And the Democrat mayor. Harry has a special, custom app that absolves any any and all Democrats. The Republican governor of Michigan has total charge and complete responsibility for Flint. He controls it. There's an interesting news story circulating that states the Detroit water company was willing to cut Flint a terrific deal on the price of water, one that would have avoided using the Flint river, but the governor nixed that because he wants to put financial pressure on the publicly owned Detroit company in order to privatize it. Krausesheisse. The Flint mayor, the Democrat, controls Flint. You're full of poo poo. -- Ban idiots, not guns! |
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On Mon, 25 Jan 2016 09:53:20 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote: On 1/25/16 9:08 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 1/25/2016 7:08 AM, John H. wrote: On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 16:59:43 -0500, wrote: On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 16:20:58 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: You of course miss the point. The point is that it is a governmental requirement in this country to provide potable water. The Republican led government of Michigan failed Flint. So did the democrat led EPA. You keep glazing over that. And the Democrat mayor. Harry has a special, custom app that absolves any any and all Democrats. The Republican governor of Michigan has total charge and complete responsibility for Flint. He controls it. There's an interesting news story circulating that states the Detroit water company was willing to cut Flint a terrific deal on the price of water, one that would have avoided using the Flint river, but the governor nixed that because he wants to put financial pressure on the publicly owned Detroit company in order to privatize it. You either ignore or are ignorant of the fact that Genessee County was developing it's own pipe to lake Huron and the Flint City council was going with that water district. That ****ed off Detroit and they cut Flint out over it. The offer was AFTER this mess war revealed. I understand you have little interest in letting facts get in the way of your rant but all of this started when Granholm was the governor and she was fine with it. You also do not want to acknowledge that the Flint river pipe was already in place (for many years) and approved by the feds, the state and the county. The EPA said it was OK to use that water and the local director was forced to resign over it along with the county health department director when this came out. Perhaps you should read something that is not put out by your party in an election year. This has been going on for well over 5 years and there is plenty of information out there for the intellectually curious |
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On Mon, 25 Jan 2016 09:53:20 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/25/16 9:08 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 1/25/2016 7:08 AM, John H. wrote: On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 16:59:43 -0500, wrote: On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 16:20:58 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: You of course miss the point. The point is that it is a governmental requirement in this country to provide potable water. The Republican led government of Michigan failed Flint. So did the democrat led EPA. You keep glazing over that. And the Democrat mayor. Harry has a special, custom app that absolves any any and all Democrats. The Republican governor of Michigan has total charge and complete responsibility for Flint. He controls it. There's an interesting news story circulating that states the Detroit water company was willing to cut Flint a terrific deal on the price of water, one that would have avoided using the Flint river, but the governor nixed that because he wants to put financial pressure on the publicly owned Detroit company in order to privatize it. You either ignore or are ignorant of the fact that Genessee County was developing it's own pipe to lake Huron and the Flint City council was going with that water district. That ****ed off Detroit and they cut Flint out over it. The offer was AFTER this mess war revealed. I understand you have little interest in letting facts get in the way of your rant but all of this started when Granholm was the governor and she was fine with it. You also do not want to acknowledge that the Flint river pipe was already in place (for many years) and approved by the feds, the state and the county. The EPA said it was OK to use that water and the local director was forced to resign over it along with the county health department director when this came out. Perhaps you should read something that is not put out by your party in an election year. This has been going on for well over 5 years and there is plenty of information out there for the intellectually curious Maybe that is the problem with Liberal Arts degrees. Is to parrot others, unlike science degrees, which encourage intellectual curiosity. |
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Califbill billnews wrote:
wrote: On Mon, 25 Jan 2016 09:53:20 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/25/16 9:08 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 1/25/2016 7:08 AM, John H. wrote: On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 16:59:43 -0500, wrote: On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 16:20:58 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: You of course miss the point. The point is that it is a governmental requirement in this country to provide potable water. The Republican led government of Michigan failed Flint. So did the democrat led EPA. You keep glazing over that. And the Democrat mayor. Harry has a special, custom app that absolves any any and all Democrats. The Republican governor of Michigan has total charge and complete responsibility for Flint. He controls it. There's an interesting news story circulating that states the Detroit water company was willing to cut Flint a terrific deal on the price of water, one that would have avoided using the Flint river, but the governor nixed that because he wants to put financial pressure on the publicly owned Detroit company in order to privatize it. You either ignore or are ignorant of the fact that Genessee County was developing it's own pipe to lake Huron and the Flint City council was going with that water district. That ****ed off Detroit and they cut Flint out over it. The offer was AFTER this mess war revealed. I understand you have little interest in letting facts get in the way of your rant but all of this started when Granholm was the governor and she was fine with it. You also do not want to acknowledge that the Flint river pipe was already in place (for many years) and approved by the feds, the state and the county. The EPA said it was OK to use that water and the local director was forced to resign over it along with the county health department director when this came out. Perhaps you should read something that is not put out by your party in an election year. This has been going on for well over 5 years and there is plenty of information out there for the intellectually curious Maybe that is the problem with Liberal Arts degrees. Is to parrot others, unlike science degrees, which encourage intellectual curiosity. In the end the facts will end up crucifying Snyder. The buck stops on his desk. -- Sent from my iPhone 6+ |
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On Mon, 25 Jan 2016 13:24:02 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: When it comes to blame from a political perspective who is crucified is usually a result of what side makes the most noise, not the facts. As Greg has aptly pointed out, the blame for this fiasco is shared across the political spectrum and by town, state and federal agencies. Why not just be honest and say that both the government and politics screwed this one up? When I read about this and I am several hours into it so far, I blame Detroit water. They are the ones who terminated their contract with Flint in retaliation for Flint wanting to join Genesee County in a new water pipe from Lake Huron (2010). Flint wanted to buy Detroit water for the interim 30 months until their pipe was finished and Detroit refused. http://www.mlive.com/news/flint/inde...its_termi.html The other smoking gun was Flint having that river designated as their backup water supply, spending a few million upgrading the plant, before they actually understood how dangerous the "salty, low pH water" actually was. The interesting thing is that the water is not that salty (4ppm) and they do not even list pH on their water test https://www.cityofflint.com/wp-conte..._Oct-15.pdfest The request for the water was from the Flint Mayor, I do not see any state officers on this request. https://www.cityofflint.com/wp-conte...t-2015-MOR.pdf Of course there is the lead pipe that should have been replaced a half a century ago. (or never installed in the first place) If they had done that, this would just be a "destroyed plumbing in the homes" law suit. There are 160 year old studies out there, talking about the dangers of lead pipe. Maybe the problems with the people in the big cities is just lead poisoning their brains. I wonder if they have lead pipe in New Haven? ;-) |
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On Mon, 25 Jan 2016 13:24:02 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: I was digging around a little more and I came up with this water quality report from Dec 2014 They report pH at 7.41 - 8.49 Something must have changed or they lied. |
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