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Mrs.E. came home from running down to the local store this afternoon
and told me she thought she was getting a flat tire. Said she heard something and car felt funny after that. Went out to check. Yup. Flat tire alright. She should stick to riding horses. http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy303/Eisboch/tire.jpg |
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On 1/14/16 6:05 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
Mrs.E. came home from running down to the local store this afternoon and told me she thought she was getting a flat tire. Said she heard something and car felt funny after that. Went out to check. Yup. Flat tire alright. She should stick to riding horses. http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy303/Eisboch/tire.jpg She's lucky she made it home... |
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On Thu, 14 Jan 2016 18:05:22 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: Mrs.E. came home from running down to the local store this afternoon and told me she thought she was getting a flat tire. Said she heard something and car felt funny after that. Went out to check. Yup. Flat tire alright. She should stick to riding horses. http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy303/Eisboch/tire.jpg Aw, just shoot a plug in it and you will be fine ;-) Actually I had a tire shred like that by the time I could slow down from 85 on the interstate and I knew I was in trouble before it really started losing air. Once that belt starts to peel, it happens pretty fast. I didn't try to get home tho. I put the donut on and went to the tire store. |
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On Thu, 14 Jan 2016 18:05:22 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: Mrs.E. came home from running down to the local store this afternoon and told me she thought she was getting a flat tire. Said she heard something and car felt funny after that. Went out to check. Yup. Flat tire alright. She should stick to riding horses. http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy303/Eisboch/tire.jpg === Usuallt they're only flat on the bottom but that one seems to be the exception. :-) |
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On 1/14/2016 6:05 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
Mrs.E. came home from running down to the local store this afternoon and told me she thought she was getting a flat tire. Said she heard something and car felt funny after that. Went out to check. Yup. Flat tire alright. She should stick to riding horses. http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy303/Eisboch/tire.jpg Never a dull moment at Rancho Luddite. :-) |
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On Thursday, January 14, 2016 at 6:05:30 PM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote:
Mrs.E. came home from running down to the local store this afternoon and told me she thought she was getting a flat tire. Said she heard something and car felt funny after that. Went out to check. Yup. Flat tire alright. She should stick to riding horses. http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy303/Eisboch/tire.jpg Back when the whole fiasco over Explorers being unstable when a tire blew, I had one. I was doing 75 or so and encountered a chunk of 18 wheeler brake drum on the interstate. There was nowhere to go, so I centered it and hoped for the best. It hit the front diff shield (4x4 Explorer), flipped around underneath, hit the gas tank shield, then cut a big gash in the rear left tire sidewall, producing an instant flat at 75mph. It wagged around in the road, but I just let off the gas and coasted over to the shoulder. 20 or so minutes, and I was on my way on the spare. After that, I saw a show where they tested the Explorer in sudden flat situations. They experienced the same as me... it is no big deal when you have a sudden flat. It is just the bad drivers doing stupid things, like jerking the wheel when it starts wagging around. Glad your wife made it hone safely. |
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On Thu, 14 Jan 2016 23:21:06 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: Mercury? Yeah ... a "Mountaineer" or something like that. Another example of a basically decent vehicle with too many doo-dad things like hydraulically operated running boards with a windshield wiper motor for the hydraulic pump that crapped out, motor driven rear seats that she never uses because the thing is basically a hay wagon, and a bunch of electronically controlled operator controls that are nothing but confusing. I think I've driven it once since she bought it. Runs good, rides good, has plenty of "pep" but too complicated for it and the driver's own good, IMO. I am a believer that the more crap you put in front of a driver, the more the crap takes away from the driver's attention to what he or she is doing. That's why, after owning several "exotic" cars, I am happy driving my plain jane F-250. I rarely even use the radio. The only one I had that was an exception was the Porsche. Simple, fast, and handled like it was on rails. Sounds like the Lincoln. The damned owners book is an inch thick and I know there are lots of things we have never turned on yet. |
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On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 06:21:50 +0000, RGrew176
wrote: Mr. Luddite;1053002 Wrote: Mrs.E. came home from running down to the local store this afternoon and told me she thought she was getting a flat tire. Said she heard something and car felt funny after that. Went out to check. Yup. Flat tire alright. She should stick to riding horses. http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/y...sboch/tire.jpg Had to drive on it some distance to destroy it so completely. Not really. These low profile radials pretty much self destruct when the belt separates. The one I had, looked like that in about a mile maybe less. It was enough time to slow down from about 85, cross 3 lanes of traffic and get to the right shoulder. (the left side was a death trap if I stopped there, concrete barrier and a narrow shoulder.) |
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On 1/15/2016 1:21 AM, RGrew176 wrote:
Mr. Luddite;1053002 Wrote: Mrs.E. came home from running down to the local store this afternoon and told me she thought she was getting a flat tire. Said she heard something and car felt funny after that. Went out to check. Yup. Flat tire alright. She should stick to riding horses. http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/y...sboch/tire.jpg Had to drive on it some distance to destroy it so completely. Less than 3 miles at about 35 mph. |
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Mr. Luddite
- show quoted text - "Yeah ... a "Mountaineer" or something like that. Another example of a basically decent vehicle with too many doo-dad things like hydraulically operated running boards with a windshield wiper motor for the hydraulic pump that crapped out, motor driven rear seats that she never uses because the thing is basically a hay wagon, and a bunch of electronically controlled operator controls that are nothing but confusing. *I think I've driven it once since she bought it. *Runs good, rides good, has plenty of "pep" *but too complicated for it and the driver's own good, IMO. I am a believer that the more crap you put in front of a driver, the more the crap takes away from the driver's attention to what he or she is doing. * That's why, after owning several "exotic" cars, I am happy driving my plain jane F-250. *I rarely even use the radio. The only one I had that was an exception was the Porsche. *Simple, fast, and handled like it was on rails. " Yup..if she was driving a basic compact car she would probably have had a better feel for what was going on. |
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On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 05:05:07 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote: Yup..if she was driving a basic compact car she would probably have had a better feel for what was going on. The Mountaineer is basically the same vehicle as the "Roll Me Another One" Explorer so it could get exciting. |
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On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 11:21:45 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote: On 1/15/16 11:09 AM, wrote: On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 05:05:07 -0800 (PST), True North wrote: Yup..if she was driving a basic compact car she would probably have had a better feel for what was going on. The Mountaineer is basically the same vehicle as the "Roll Me Another One" Explorer so it could get exciting. About six months ago, we got my wife a new car, maybe one step up from your basic compact. We shopped five or six dealers, looking at several brands of four door sedans, including two "fancy lines." She ending up liking the Toyota Camry best because "it's a simple car, well-made, nice ride, and peppy." I was pretty surprised at how well it performs, since she opted for the naturally aspirated four cylinder engine. === If you want "peppy" take a ride in the V-6 Honda Accord, zero to 60 in 6 seconds. |
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On 1/15/2016 11:21 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/15/16 11:09 AM, wrote: On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 05:05:07 -0800 (PST), True North wrote: Yup..if she was driving a basic compact car she would probably have had a better feel for what was going on. The Mountaineer is basically the same vehicle as the "Roll Me Another One" Explorer so it could get exciting. About six months ago, we got my wife a new car, maybe one step up from your basic compact. We shopped five or six dealers, looking at several brands of four door sedans, including two "fancy lines." She ending up liking the Toyota Camry best because "it's a simple car, well-made, nice ride, and peppy." I was pretty surprised at how well it performs, since she opted for the naturally aspirated four cylinder engine. If this house deal goes through and I find myself in a position where I don't need a big truck for plowing or towing, I'll probably look for a small, economical car like the Camry. Haven't done a lot of looking or researching yet but I wouldn't mind getting something smaller as long as it is comfortable. The Mini Cooper I had a year or so ago was a lot of fun to drive but it was like riding on a high performance roller skate. I can't imagine taking a long distance trip in it. Kinda like the looks of the Ford Fusion also but don't know much about them. Only problem with the imports ... Toyota, Nissan, etc., is that they all look the same to me. And most I see are grey for some reason. |
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On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 11:34:11 -0500,
wrote: On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 11:21:45 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/15/16 11:09 AM, wrote: On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 05:05:07 -0800 (PST), True North wrote: Yup..if she was driving a basic compact car she would probably have had a better feel for what was going on. The Mountaineer is basically the same vehicle as the "Roll Me Another One" Explorer so it could get exciting. About six months ago, we got my wife a new car, maybe one step up from your basic compact. We shopped five or six dealers, looking at several brands of four door sedans, including two "fancy lines." She ending up liking the Toyota Camry best because "it's a simple car, well-made, nice ride, and peppy." I was pretty surprised at how well it performs, since she opted for the naturally aspirated four cylinder engine. === If you want "peppy" take a ride in the V-6 Honda Accord, zero to 60 in 6 seconds. My decrepit old 2 liter Prelude is pretty peppy for what it is. If you keep it up in that "V-tec" power band it moves right along. Since that is over 5k RPM it does make my mechanically minded teeth hurt a little tho. |
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On 1/15/16 11:47 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/15/2016 11:21 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/15/16 11:09 AM, wrote: On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 05:05:07 -0800 (PST), True North wrote: Yup..if she was driving a basic compact car she would probably have had a better feel for what was going on. The Mountaineer is basically the same vehicle as the "Roll Me Another One" Explorer so it could get exciting. About six months ago, we got my wife a new car, maybe one step up from your basic compact. We shopped five or six dealers, looking at several brands of four door sedans, including two "fancy lines." She ending up liking the Toyota Camry best because "it's a simple car, well-made, nice ride, and peppy." I was pretty surprised at how well it performs, since she opted for the naturally aspirated four cylinder engine. If this house deal goes through and I find myself in a position where I don't need a big truck for plowing or towing, I'll probably look for a small, economical car like the Camry. Haven't done a lot of looking or researching yet but I wouldn't mind getting something smaller as long as it is comfortable. The Mini Cooper I had a year or so ago was a lot of fun to drive but it was like riding on a high performance roller skate. I can't imagine taking a long distance trip in it. Kinda like the looks of the Ford Fusion also but don't know much about them. Only problem with the imports ... Toyota, Nissan, etc., is that they all look the same to me. And most I see are grey for some reason. The Camry sits a bit higher than the Nissan competitors and therefore is better for a taller person. You are right, though...most of the cars in this category look pretty much the same. My wife's is "blu-ish grey." |
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Keyser Söze
- show quoted text - "About six months ago, we got my wife a new car, maybe one step up from your basic compact. We shopped five or six dealers, looking at several brands of four door sedans, including two "fancy lines." She ending up liking the Toyota Camry best because "it's a simple car, well-made, nice ride, and peppy." I was pretty surprised at how well it performs, since she opted for the naturally aspirated four cylinder engine." Too bad Toyota discontinued the V6 when they redesigned the Camry four or five years ago. It's a nice engine...plenty for my Highlander, the way I drive. Not sure if Camry has gone to the CVT type transmission yet. That seems to be the future but I'm not convinced the slightly better gas mileage is worth any negative traits...such as when towing etc. |
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On 1/15/16 12:19 PM, True North wrote:
Keyser Söze - show quoted text - "About six months ago, we got my wife a new car, maybe one step up from your basic compact. We shopped five or six dealers, looking at several brands of four door sedans, including two "fancy lines." She ending up liking the Toyota Camry best because "it's a simple car, well-made, nice ride, and peppy." I was pretty surprised at how well it performs, since she opted for the naturally aspirated four cylinder engine." Too bad Toyota discontinued the V6 when they redesigned the Camry four or five years ago. It's a nice engine...plenty for my Highlander, the way I drive. Not sure if Camry has gone to the CVT type transmission yet. That seems to be the future but I'm not convinced the slightly better gas mileage is worth any negative traits...such as when towing etc. I think you can get a V6 in the Camry but once my wife test drove the Camry with the 4, she was "decided." On a recent long drive on I-95, she was able to average 38 and 40 mpg at 70 mph. |
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On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 11:47:10 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: On 1/15/2016 11:21 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/15/16 11:09 AM, wrote: On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 05:05:07 -0800 (PST), True North wrote: Yup..if she was driving a basic compact car she would probably have had a better feel for what was going on. The Mountaineer is basically the same vehicle as the "Roll Me Another One" Explorer so it could get exciting. About six months ago, we got my wife a new car, maybe one step up from your basic compact. We shopped five or six dealers, looking at several brands of four door sedans, including two "fancy lines." She ending up liking the Toyota Camry best because "it's a simple car, well-made, nice ride, and peppy." I was pretty surprised at how well it performs, since she opted for the naturally aspirated four cylinder engine. If this house deal goes through and I find myself in a position where I don't need a big truck for plowing or towing, I'll probably look for a small, economical car like the Camry. Haven't done a lot of looking or researching yet but I wouldn't mind getting something smaller as long as it is comfortable. The Mini Cooper I had a year or so ago was a lot of fun to drive but it was like riding on a high performance roller skate. I can't imagine taking a long distance trip in it. Kinda like the looks of the Ford Fusion also but don't know much about them. Only problem with the imports ... Toyota, Nissan, etc., is that they all look the same to me. And most I see are grey for some reason. === The most comfortable car we've ever owned is my wife's M-B E320. It's just super in every way - smooth, quiet, powerful and great seats. Consumer Reports rated it as one of the best cars they've ever driven. |
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On 1/15/2016 12:22 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/15/16 12:19 PM, True North wrote: Keyser Söze - show quoted text - "About six months ago, we got my wife a new car, maybe one step up from your basic compact. We shopped five or six dealers, looking at several brands of four door sedans, including two "fancy lines." She ending up liking the Toyota Camry best because "it's a simple car, well-made, nice ride, and peppy." I was pretty surprised at how well it performs, since she opted for the naturally aspirated four cylinder engine." Too bad Toyota discontinued the V6 when they redesigned the Camry four or five years ago. It's a nice engine...plenty for my Highlander, the way I drive. Not sure if Camry has gone to the CVT type transmission yet. That seems to be the future but I'm not convinced the slightly better gas mileage is worth any negative traits...such as when towing etc. I think you can get a V6 in the Camry but once my wife test drove the Camry with the 4, she was "decided." On a recent long drive on I-95, she was able to average 38 and 40 mpg at 70 mph. Assuming they have a history of being reliable, I think the best combination is a small 4 banger with a turbo. The turbo adds plenty of pep when you need it but you don't have to get on it when you are just driving normally. Some of the turbo 4 cylinders can challenge the performance of a V8 in some cars. My driving habits have changed a great deal in the past few years. I don't drive fast ... I don't accelerate any faster than necessary ... and I am not in a big hurry to get anywhere anymore. Had my fun with the M5, Porsche and big old American muscle cars but I am over them. |
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On 1/15/2016 12:28 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 11:47:10 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 1/15/2016 11:21 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/15/16 11:09 AM, wrote: On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 05:05:07 -0800 (PST), True North wrote: Yup..if she was driving a basic compact car she would probably have had a better feel for what was going on. The Mountaineer is basically the same vehicle as the "Roll Me Another One" Explorer so it could get exciting. About six months ago, we got my wife a new car, maybe one step up from your basic compact. We shopped five or six dealers, looking at several brands of four door sedans, including two "fancy lines." She ending up liking the Toyota Camry best because "it's a simple car, well-made, nice ride, and peppy." I was pretty surprised at how well it performs, since she opted for the naturally aspirated four cylinder engine. If this house deal goes through and I find myself in a position where I don't need a big truck for plowing or towing, I'll probably look for a small, economical car like the Camry. Haven't done a lot of looking or researching yet but I wouldn't mind getting something smaller as long as it is comfortable. The Mini Cooper I had a year or so ago was a lot of fun to drive but it was like riding on a high performance roller skate. I can't imagine taking a long distance trip in it. Kinda like the looks of the Ford Fusion also but don't know much about them. Only problem with the imports ... Toyota, Nissan, etc., is that they all look the same to me. And most I see are grey for some reason. === The most comfortable car we've ever owned is my wife's M-B E320. It's just super in every way - smooth, quiet, powerful and great seats. Consumer Reports rated it as one of the best cars they've ever driven. I've had others recommend that car as well, including my lawyer friend who bought one just before he moved back to Daytona Beach. My only objection would be ease and availability of service. I didn't care for the BMW dealership that was closest to me and one of the reasons I got rid of the Mini Cooper was that the closest place for authorized service was about 50 miles away. MB seems to be expanding their dealerships and service centers around here. Could be a possibility, depending on where we end up moving. That is still up in the air. |
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On Friday, January 15, 2016 at 12:28:15 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 11:47:10 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 1/15/2016 11:21 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/15/16 11:09 AM, wrote: On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 05:05:07 -0800 (PST), True North wrote: Yup..if she was driving a basic compact car she would probably have had a better feel for what was going on. The Mountaineer is basically the same vehicle as the "Roll Me Another One" Explorer so it could get exciting. About six months ago, we got my wife a new car, maybe one step up from your basic compact. We shopped five or six dealers, looking at several brands of four door sedans, including two "fancy lines." She ending up liking the Toyota Camry best because "it's a simple car, well-made, nice ride, and peppy." I was pretty surprised at how well it performs, since she opted for the naturally aspirated four cylinder engine. If this house deal goes through and I find myself in a position where I don't need a big truck for plowing or towing, I'll probably look for a small, economical car like the Camry. Haven't done a lot of looking or researching yet but I wouldn't mind getting something smaller as long as it is comfortable. The Mini Cooper I had a year or so ago was a lot of fun to drive but it was like riding on a high performance roller skate. I can't imagine taking a long distance trip in it. Kinda like the looks of the Ford Fusion also but don't know much about them. Only problem with the imports ... Toyota, Nissan, etc., is that they all look the same to me. And most I see are grey for some reason. === The most comfortable car we've ever owned is my wife's M-B E320. It's just super in every way - smooth, quiet, powerful and great seats. Consumer Reports rated it as one of the best cars they've ever driven. My wife had one for a company car for a while. She liked it, but I didn't. Too soft and no fun to drive. Her favorite was the Lexus LS460. I hated driving it, but it was nice to be a passenger, especially on a long trip. She had an A6 Quattro, and that's what introduced me to them. I've had two since then, currently still driving the second one. Love them. Comfortable, sporty, quick, and sure-footed with the quattro system. |
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On 1/15/2016 1:12 PM, wrote:
On Friday, January 15, 2016 at 12:28:15 PM UTC-5, wrote: On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 11:47:10 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 1/15/2016 11:21 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/15/16 11:09 AM, wrote: On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 05:05:07 -0800 (PST), True North wrote: Yup..if she was driving a basic compact car she would probably have had a better feel for what was going on. The Mountaineer is basically the same vehicle as the "Roll Me Another One" Explorer so it could get exciting. About six months ago, we got my wife a new car, maybe one step up from your basic compact. We shopped five or six dealers, looking at several brands of four door sedans, including two "fancy lines." She ending up liking the Toyota Camry best because "it's a simple car, well-made, nice ride, and peppy." I was pretty surprised at how well it performs, since she opted for the naturally aspirated four cylinder engine. If this house deal goes through and I find myself in a position where I don't need a big truck for plowing or towing, I'll probably look for a small, economical car like the Camry. Haven't done a lot of looking or researching yet but I wouldn't mind getting something smaller as long as it is comfortable. The Mini Cooper I had a year or so ago was a lot of fun to drive but it was like riding on a high performance roller skate. I can't imagine taking a long distance trip in it. Kinda like the looks of the Ford Fusion also but don't know much about them. Only problem with the imports ... Toyota, Nissan, etc., is that they all look the same to me. And most I see are grey for some reason. === The most comfortable car we've ever owned is my wife's M-B E320. It's just super in every way - smooth, quiet, powerful and great seats. Consumer Reports rated it as one of the best cars they've ever driven. My wife had one for a company car for a while. She liked it, but I didn't. Too soft and no fun to drive. Her favorite was the Lexus LS460. I hated driving it, but it was nice to be a passenger, especially on a long trip. She had an A6 Quattro, and that's what introduced me to them. I've had two since then, currently still driving the second one. Love them. Comfortable, sporty, quick, and sure-footed with the quattro system. How's the service availability? That's one thing I learned about having some of the nicer, performance orientated, foreign made cars. For example, the BMW M5 called for special oil that was only available at the BMW dealership. Wasn't a big deal since oil changes were covered but if you were traveling and needed a quart (the M5 *did* use some oil, especially during break in) you would have to hunt for a BMW service place. The other thing I disliked about the BMW M5 was the very specific and long break in procedure. RPM was limited for the first 1,200 or 1,500 miles and then a gradual allowance to start "getting on it" until you had about 3,000 miles on it. The computer in the car recorded any violations of the procedure so, in the event of a problem, they could point their finger at you. Biggest problem for me was I had to go through this twice. They took back the first M5 I had due to many computer software problems. They assured me that the second one (same year but built 7 months later) had all the issues sorted out. They lied. |
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On Friday, January 15, 2016 at 1:35:21 PM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/15/2016 1:12 PM, wrote: On Friday, January 15, 2016 at 12:28:15 PM UTC-5, wrote: On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 11:47:10 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 1/15/2016 11:21 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/15/16 11:09 AM, wrote: On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 05:05:07 -0800 (PST), True North wrote: Yup..if she was driving a basic compact car she would probably have had a better feel for what was going on. The Mountaineer is basically the same vehicle as the "Roll Me Another One" Explorer so it could get exciting. About six months ago, we got my wife a new car, maybe one step up from your basic compact. We shopped five or six dealers, looking at several brands of four door sedans, including two "fancy lines." She ending up liking the Toyota Camry best because "it's a simple car, well-made, nice ride, and peppy." I was pretty surprised at how well it performs, since she opted for the naturally aspirated four cylinder engine. If this house deal goes through and I find myself in a position where I don't need a big truck for plowing or towing, I'll probably look for a small, economical car like the Camry. Haven't done a lot of looking or researching yet but I wouldn't mind getting something smaller as long as it is comfortable. The Mini Cooper I had a year or so ago was a lot of fun to drive but it was like riding on a high performance roller skate. I can't imagine taking a long distance trip in it. Kinda like the looks of the Ford Fusion also but don't know much about them. Only problem with the imports ... Toyota, Nissan, etc., is that they all look the same to me. And most I see are grey for some reason. |
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On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 13:35:16 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: On 1/15/2016 1:12 PM, wrote: On Friday, January 15, 2016 at 12:28:15 PM UTC-5, wrote: On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 11:47:10 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 1/15/2016 11:21 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/15/16 11:09 AM, wrote: On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 05:05:07 -0800 (PST), True North wrote: Yup..if she was driving a basic compact car she would probably have had a better feel for what was going on. The Mountaineer is basically the same vehicle as the "Roll Me Another One" Explorer so it could get exciting. About six months ago, we got my wife a new car, maybe one step up from your basic compact. We shopped five or six dealers, looking at several brands of four door sedans, including two "fancy lines." She ending up liking the Toyota Camry best because "it's a simple car, well-made, nice ride, and peppy." I was pretty surprised at how well it performs, since she opted for the naturally aspirated four cylinder engine. If this house deal goes through and I find myself in a position where I don't need a big truck for plowing or towing, I'll probably look for a small, economical car like the Camry. Haven't done a lot of looking or researching yet but I wouldn't mind getting something smaller as long as it is comfortable. The Mini Cooper I had a year or so ago was a lot of fun to drive but it was like riding on a high performance roller skate. I can't imagine taking a long distance trip in it. Kinda like the looks of the Ford Fusion also but don't know much about them. Only problem with the imports ... Toyota, Nissan, etc., is that they all look the same to me. And most I see are grey for some reason. === The most comfortable car we've ever owned is my wife's M-B E320. It's just super in every way - smooth, quiet, powerful and great seats. Consumer Reports rated it as one of the best cars they've ever driven. My wife had one for a company car for a while. She liked it, but I didn't. Too soft and no fun to drive. Her favorite was the Lexus LS460. I hated driving it, but it was nice to be a passenger, especially on a long trip. She had an A6 Quattro, and that's what introduced me to them. I've had two since then, currently still driving the second one. Love them. Comfortable, sporty, quick, and sure-footed with the quattro system. How's the service availability? That's one thing I learned about having some of the nicer, performance orientated, foreign made cars. For example, the BMW M5 called for special oil that was only available at the BMW dealership. Wasn't a big deal since oil changes were covered but if you were traveling and needed a quart (the M5 *did* use some oil, especially during break in) you would have to hunt for a BMW service place. The other thing I disliked about the BMW M5 was the very specific and long break in procedure. RPM was limited for the first 1,200 or 1,500 miles and then a gradual allowance to start "getting on it" until you had about 3,000 miles on it. The computer in the car recorded any violations of the procedure so, in the event of a problem, they could point their finger at you. Biggest problem for me was I had to go through this twice. They took back the first M5 I had due to many computer software problems. They assured me that the second one (same year but built 7 months later) had all the issues sorted out. They lied. BMWs seem a bit finicky to me. There are lots of things I hear about them that make me happy not to have one. |
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On Friday, January 15, 2016 at 2:04:40 PM UTC-5, Its Me wrote:
On Friday, January 15, 2016 at 1:35:21 PM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 1/15/2016 1:12 PM, wrote: On Friday, January 15, 2016 at 12:28:15 PM UTC-5, wrote: On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 11:47:10 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 1/15/2016 11:21 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/15/16 11:09 AM, wrote: On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 05:05:07 -0800 (PST), True North wrote: Yup..if she was driving a basic compact car she would probably have had a better feel for what was going on. The Mountaineer is basically the same vehicle as the "Roll Me Another One" Explorer so it could get exciting. About six months ago, we got my wife a new car, maybe one step up from your basic compact. We shopped five or six dealers, looking at several brands of four door sedans, including two "fancy lines." She ending up liking the Toyota Camry best because "it's a simple car, well-made, nice ride, and peppy." I was pretty surprised at how well it performs, since she opted for the naturally aspirated four cylinder engine. If this house deal goes through and I find myself in a position where I don't need a big truck for plowing or towing, I'll probably look for a small, economical car like the Camry. Haven't done a lot of looking or researching yet but I wouldn't mind getting something smaller as long as it is comfortable. The Mini Cooper I had a year or so ago was a lot of fun to drive but it was like riding on a high performance roller skate. I can't imagine taking a long distance trip in it. Kinda like the looks of the Ford Fusion also but don't know much about them. Only problem with the imports ... Toyota, Nissan, etc., is that they all look the same to me. And most I see are grey for some reason. === The most comfortable car we've ever owned is my wife's M-B E320. It's just super in every way - smooth, quiet, powerful and great seats. Consumer Reports rated it as one of the best cars they've ever driven. |
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On 1/15/16 2:19 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 13:35:16 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 1/15/2016 1:12 PM, wrote: On Friday, January 15, 2016 at 12:28:15 PM UTC-5, wrote: On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 11:47:10 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 1/15/2016 11:21 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/15/16 11:09 AM, wrote: On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 05:05:07 -0800 (PST), True North wrote: Yup..if she was driving a basic compact car she would probably have had a better feel for what was going on. The Mountaineer is basically the same vehicle as the "Roll Me Another One" Explorer so it could get exciting. About six months ago, we got my wife a new car, maybe one step up from your basic compact. We shopped five or six dealers, looking at several brands of four door sedans, including two "fancy lines." She ending up liking the Toyota Camry best because "it's a simple car, well-made, nice ride, and peppy." I was pretty surprised at how well it performs, since she opted for the naturally aspirated four cylinder engine. If this house deal goes through and I find myself in a position where I don't need a big truck for plowing or towing, I'll probably look for a small, economical car like the Camry. Haven't done a lot of looking or researching yet but I wouldn't mind getting something smaller as long as it is comfortable. The Mini Cooper I had a year or so ago was a lot of fun to drive but it was like riding on a high performance roller skate. I can't imagine taking a long distance trip in it. Kinda like the looks of the Ford Fusion also but don't know much about them. Only problem with the imports ... Toyota, Nissan, etc., is that they all look the same to me. And most I see are grey for some reason. === The most comfortable car we've ever owned is my wife's M-B E320. It's just super in every way - smooth, quiet, powerful and great seats. Consumer Reports rated it as one of the best cars they've ever driven. My wife had one for a company car for a while. She liked it, but I didn't. Too soft and no fun to drive. Her favorite was the Lexus LS460. I hated driving it, but it was nice to be a passenger, especially on a long trip. She had an A6 Quattro, and that's what introduced me to them. I've had two since then, currently still driving the second one. Love them. Comfortable, sporty, quick, and sure-footed with the quattro system. How's the service availability? That's one thing I learned about having some of the nicer, performance orientated, foreign made cars. For example, the BMW M5 called for special oil that was only available at the BMW dealership. Wasn't a big deal since oil changes were covered but if you were traveling and needed a quart (the M5 *did* use some oil, especially during break in) you would have to hunt for a BMW service place. The other thing I disliked about the BMW M5 was the very specific and long break in procedure. RPM was limited for the first 1,200 or 1,500 miles and then a gradual allowance to start "getting on it" until you had about 3,000 miles on it. The computer in the car recorded any violations of the procedure so, in the event of a problem, they could point their finger at you. Biggest problem for me was I had to go through this twice. They took back the first M5 I had due to many computer software problems. They assured me that the second one (same year but built 7 months later) had all the issues sorted out. They lied. BMWs seem a bit finicky to me. There are lots of things I hear about them that make me happy not to have one. I had a new BMW, a 2002ti, back in the good old days before these German cars became over-engineered and overly complicated. I wouldn't touch a new BMW or Audi these days because of their complexity and the price of service and spare parts. They're just too clever. The Porsches seem less gimmicky. |
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On 1/15/2016 3:27 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/15/16 2:19 PM, wrote: On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 13:35:16 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 1/15/2016 1:12 PM, wrote: On Friday, January 15, 2016 at 12:28:15 PM UTC-5, wrote: On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 11:47:10 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 1/15/2016 11:21 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/15/16 11:09 AM, wrote: On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 05:05:07 -0800 (PST), True North wrote: Yup..if she was driving a basic compact car she would probably have had a better feel for what was going on. The Mountaineer is basically the same vehicle as the "Roll Me Another One" Explorer so it could get exciting. About six months ago, we got my wife a new car, maybe one step up from your basic compact. We shopped five or six dealers, looking at several brands of four door sedans, including two "fancy lines." She ending up liking the Toyota Camry best because "it's a simple car, well-made, nice ride, and peppy." I was pretty surprised at how well it performs, since she opted for the naturally aspirated four cylinder engine. If this house deal goes through and I find myself in a position where I don't need a big truck for plowing or towing, I'll probably look for a small, economical car like the Camry. Haven't done a lot of looking or researching yet but I wouldn't mind getting something smaller as long as it is comfortable. The Mini Cooper I had a year or so ago was a lot of fun to drive but it was like riding on a high performance roller skate. I can't imagine taking a long distance trip in it. Kinda like the looks of the Ford Fusion also but don't know much about them. Only problem with the imports ... Toyota, Nissan, etc., is that they all look the same to me. And most I see are grey for some reason. === The most comfortable car we've ever owned is my wife's M-B E320. It's just super in every way - smooth, quiet, powerful and great seats. Consumer Reports rated it as one of the best cars they've ever driven. My wife had one for a company car for a while. She liked it, but I didn't. Too soft and no fun to drive. Her favorite was the Lexus LS460. I hated driving it, but it was nice to be a passenger, especially on a long trip. She had an A6 Quattro, and that's what introduced me to them. I've had two since then, currently still driving the second one. Love them. Comfortable, sporty, quick, and sure-footed with the quattro system. How's the service availability? That's one thing I learned about having some of the nicer, performance orientated, foreign made cars. For example, the BMW M5 called for special oil that was only available at the BMW dealership. Wasn't a big deal since oil changes were covered but if you were traveling and needed a quart (the M5 *did* use some oil, especially during break in) you would have to hunt for a BMW service place. The other thing I disliked about the BMW M5 was the very specific and long break in procedure. RPM was limited for the first 1,200 or 1,500 miles and then a gradual allowance to start "getting on it" until you had about 3,000 miles on it. The computer in the car recorded any violations of the procedure so, in the event of a problem, they could point their finger at you. Biggest problem for me was I had to go through this twice. They took back the first M5 I had due to many computer software problems. They assured me that the second one (same year but built 7 months later) had all the issues sorted out. They lied. BMWs seem a bit finicky to me. There are lots of things I hear about them that make me happy not to have one. I had a new BMW, a 2002ti, back in the good old days before these German cars became over-engineered and overly complicated. I wouldn't touch a new BMW or Audi these days because of their complexity and the price of service and spare parts. They're just too clever. The Porsches seem less gimmicky. Unless things have changed (and hopefully they have not) Porsche has seemed to continue the spirit and heritage of a true, high performance sports car. Even with modern changes like a water cooled engine and all wheel drive the one I had was still a blast to drive and handled like no other car I've ever driven. Still felt like a sports car even at 30 mph. The BMW's are refined and nice but, as you say, have become way too complex and software dependent. |
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On 1/15/2016 2:04 PM, wrote:
On Friday, January 15, 2016 at 1:35:21 PM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 1/15/2016 1:12 PM, wrote: On Friday, January 15, 2016 at 12:28:15 PM UTC-5, wrote: On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 11:47:10 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 1/15/2016 11:21 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/15/16 11:09 AM, wrote: On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 05:05:07 -0800 (PST), True North wrote: Yup..if she was driving a basic compact car she would probably have had a better feel for what was going on. The Mountaineer is basically the same vehicle as the "Roll Me Another One" Explorer so it could get exciting. About six months ago, we got my wife a new car, maybe one step up from your basic compact. We shopped five or six dealers, looking at several brands of four door sedans, including two "fancy lines." She ending up liking the Toyota Camry best because "it's a simple car, well-made, nice ride, and peppy." I was pretty surprised at how well it performs, since she opted for the naturally aspirated four cylinder engine. If this house deal goes through and I find myself in a position where I don't need a big truck for plowing or towing, I'll probably look for a small, economical car like the Camry. Haven't done a lot of looking or researching yet but I wouldn't mind getting something smaller as long as it is comfortable. The Mini Cooper I had a year or so ago was a lot of fun to drive but it was like riding on a high performance roller skate. I can't imagine taking a long distance trip in it. Kinda like the looks of the Ford Fusion also but don't know much about them. Only problem with the imports ... Toyota, Nissan, etc., is that they all look the same to me. And most I see are grey for some reason. === The most comfortable car we've ever owned is my wife's M-B E320. It's just super in every way - smooth, quiet, powerful and great seats. Consumer Reports rated it as one of the best cars they've ever driven. My wife had one for a company car for a while. She liked it, but I didn't. Too soft and no fun to drive. Her favorite was the Lexus LS460. I hated driving it, but it was nice to be a passenger, especially on a long trip. She had an A6 Quattro, and that's what introduced me to them. I've had two since then, currently still driving the second one. Love them. Comfortable, sporty, quick, and sure-footed with the quattro system. How's the service availability? That's one thing I learned about having some of the nicer, performance orientated, foreign made cars. For example, the BMW M5 called for special oil that was only available at the BMW dealership. Wasn't a big deal since oil changes were covered but if you were traveling and needed a quart (the M5 *did* use some oil, especially during break in) you would have to hunt for a BMW service place. The other thing I disliked about the BMW M5 was the very specific and long break in procedure. RPM was limited for the first 1,200 or 1,500 miles and then a gradual allowance to start "getting on it" until you had about 3,000 miles on it. The computer in the car recorded any violations of the procedure so, in the event of a problem, they could point their finger at you. Biggest problem for me was I had to go through this twice. They took back the first M5 I had due to many computer software problems. They assured me that the second one (same year but built 7 months later) had all the issues sorted out. They lied. There's a dealership 20 minutes away so I'm good in that respect, and there's an independent shop that specializes in German cars 5 minutes from my work. The A6 uses Mobile 1 synthetic which is readily available. I took a quick look, and while it's true that BMW sells a private brand "BMW" oil, the manual for an M5 (or somewhere in the documentation) has an extensive list of oils that are approved to be used in the M5. It even says at the bottom that "BMW recommends Castrol". http://f10.m5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=765520 Perhaps things have changed but I recall that mine called for a weird weight that you couldn't find anywhere other than a BMW dealer. I think it was 10w-60w. No one other than BMW carried it or even heard of it. |
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On 1/15/2016 2:54 PM, Its Me wrote:
On Friday, January 15, 2016 at 2:04:40 PM UTC-5, Its Me wrote: On Friday, January 15, 2016 at 1:35:21 PM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 1/15/2016 1:12 PM, wrote: On Friday, January 15, 2016 at 12:28:15 PM UTC-5, wrote: On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 11:47:10 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 1/15/2016 11:21 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/15/16 11:09 AM, wrote: On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 05:05:07 -0800 (PST), True North wrote: Yup..if she was driving a basic compact car she would probably have had a better feel for what was going on. The Mountaineer is basically the same vehicle as the "Roll Me Another One" Explorer so it could get exciting. About six months ago, we got my wife a new car, maybe one step up from your basic compact. We shopped five or six dealers, looking at several brands of four door sedans, including two "fancy lines." She ending up liking the Toyota Camry best because "it's a simple car, well-made, nice ride, and peppy." I was pretty surprised at how well it performs, since she opted for the naturally aspirated four cylinder engine. If this house deal goes through and I find myself in a position where I don't need a big truck for plowing or towing, I'll probably look for a small, economical car like the Camry. Haven't done a lot of looking or researching yet but I wouldn't mind getting something smaller as long as it is comfortable. The Mini Cooper I had a year or so ago was a lot of fun to drive but it was like riding on a high performance roller skate. I can't imagine taking a long distance trip in it. Kinda like the looks of the Ford Fusion also but don't know much about them. Only problem with the imports ... Toyota, Nissan, etc., is that they all look the same to me. And most I see are grey for some reason. === The most comfortable car we've ever owned is my wife's M-B E320. It's just super in every way - smooth, quiet, powerful and great seats. Consumer Reports rated it as one of the best cars they've ever driven. My wife had one for a company car for a while. She liked it, but I didn't. Too soft and no fun to drive. Her favorite was the Lexus LS460. I hated driving it, but it was nice to be a passenger, especially on a long trip. She had an A6 Quattro, and that's what introduced me to them. I've had two since then, currently still driving the second one. Love them. Comfortable, sporty, quick, and sure-footed with the quattro system. How's the service availability? That's one thing I learned about having some of the nicer, performance orientated, foreign made cars. For example, the BMW M5 called for special oil that was only available at the BMW dealership. Wasn't a big deal since oil changes were covered but if you were traveling and needed a quart (the M5 *did* use some oil, especially during break in) you would have to hunt for a BMW service place. The other thing I disliked about the BMW M5 was the very specific and long break in procedure. RPM was limited for the first 1,200 or 1,500 miles and then a gradual allowance to start "getting on it" until you had about 3,000 miles on it. The computer in the car recorded any violations of the procedure so, in the event of a problem, they could point their finger at you. Biggest problem for me was I had to go through this twice. They took back the first M5 I had due to many computer software problems. They assured me that the second one (same year but built 7 months later) had all the issues sorted out. They lied. There's a dealership 20 minutes away so I'm good in that respect, and there's an independent shop that specializes in German cars 5 minutes from my work. The A6 uses Mobile 1 synthetic which is readily available. I took a quick look, and while it's true that BMW sells a private brand "BMW" oil, the manual for an M5 (or somewhere in the documentation) has an extensive list of oils that are approved to be used in the M5. It even says at the bottom that "BMW recommends Castrol". http://f10.m5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=765520 I got curious and did a little more digging. While the above is true for the latest models, the one you had required 10w-60 full synthetic, and there are only a few suppliers of that. Castrol and Redline have it, and BMW, of course. The BMW oil is probably just Castrol in a different bottle. That was it. 10-60 synthetic. At the time (2006) nobody other than BMW carried it. I remember that using oil was another thing I couldn't quite get used to in a brand new car. I'd start it up and it would blow blue smoke for a sec or two. BMW said it was "normal" due to the high performance nature of the engine. In 2006 they were rated at 500hp. Don't know what they are rated at now. |
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On Friday, January 15, 2016 at 4:09:41 PM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/15/2016 3:27 PM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/15/16 2:19 PM, wrote: On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 13:35:16 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 1/15/2016 1:12 PM, wrote: On Friday, January 15, 2016 at 12:28:15 PM UTC-5, wrote: On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 11:47:10 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 1/15/2016 11:21 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/15/16 11:09 AM, wrote: On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 05:05:07 -0800 (PST), True North wrote: Yup..if she was driving a basic compact car she would probably have had a better feel for what was going on. The Mountaineer is basically the same vehicle as the "Roll Me Another One" Explorer so it could get exciting. About six months ago, we got my wife a new car, maybe one step up from your basic compact. We shopped five or six dealers, looking at several brands of four door sedans, including two "fancy lines." She ending up liking the Toyota Camry best because "it's a simple car, well-made, nice ride, and peppy." I was pretty surprised at how well it performs, since she opted for the naturally aspirated four cylinder engine. If this house deal goes through and I find myself in a position where I don't need a big truck for plowing or towing, I'll probably look for a small, economical car like the Camry. Haven't done a lot of looking or researching yet but I wouldn't mind getting something smaller as long as it is comfortable. The Mini Cooper I had a year or so ago was a lot of fun to drive but it was like riding on a high performance roller skate. I can't imagine taking a long distance trip in it. Kinda like the looks of the Ford Fusion also but don't know much about them. Only problem with the imports ... Toyota, Nissan, etc., is that they all look the same to me. And most I see are grey for some reason. === The most comfortable car we've ever owned is my wife's M-B E320. It's just super in every way - smooth, quiet, powerful and great seats. Consumer Reports rated it as one of the best cars they've ever driven. My wife had one for a company car for a while. She liked it, but I didn't. Too soft and no fun to drive. Her favorite was the Lexus LS460. I hated driving it, but it was nice to be a passenger, especially on a long trip. She had an A6 Quattro, and that's what introduced me to them. I've had two since then, currently still driving the second one. Love them. Comfortable, sporty, quick, and sure-footed with the quattro system. How's the service availability? That's one thing I learned about having some of the nicer, performance orientated, foreign made cars. For example, the BMW M5 called for special oil that was only available at the BMW dealership. Wasn't a big deal since oil changes were covered but if you were traveling and needed a quart (the M5 *did* use some oil, especially during break in) you would have to hunt for a BMW service place. The other thing I disliked about the BMW M5 was the very specific and long break in procedure. RPM was limited for the first 1,200 or 1,500 miles and then a gradual allowance to start "getting on it" until you had about 3,000 miles on it. The computer in the car recorded any violations of the procedure so, in the event of a problem, they could point their finger at you. Biggest problem for me was I had to go through this twice. They took back the first M5 I had due to many computer software problems. They assured me that the second one (same year but built 7 months later) had all the issues sorted out. They lied. BMWs seem a bit finicky to me. There are lots of things I hear about them that make me happy not to have one. I had a new BMW, a 2002ti, back in the good old days before these German cars became over-engineered and overly complicated. I wouldn't touch a new BMW or Audi these days because of their complexity and the price of service and spare parts. They're just too clever. The Porsches seem less gimmicky. Unless things have changed (and hopefully they have not) Porsche has seemed to continue the spirit and heritage of a true, high performance sports car. Even with modern changes like a water cooled engine and all wheel drive the one I had was still a blast to drive and handled like no other car I've ever driven. Still felt like a sports car even at 30 mph. The BMW's are refined and nice but, as you say, have become way too complex and software dependent. I loved my Boxster. Great car. I guy I know just bought a Cayman GT4. Serious bad-assed car. He also bought a Ferrari 308... the Magnum PI car. It has 24k miles on it. He tried to hand me they keys, but I declined. Between the gated shifter and getting in/out of it (it's tiny and LOW), I knew better. Cool car, though. This guy bought a bunch of Microsoft IPO, and I suspect he's cashing it in now. Good for him! |
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On 1/15/2016 4:36 PM, Its Me wrote:
On Friday, January 15, 2016 at 4:09:41 PM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 1/15/2016 3:27 PM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/15/16 2:19 PM, wrote: On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 13:35:16 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 1/15/2016 1:12 PM, wrote: On Friday, January 15, 2016 at 12:28:15 PM UTC-5, wrote: On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 11:47:10 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 1/15/2016 11:21 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/15/16 11:09 AM, wrote: On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 05:05:07 -0800 (PST), True North wrote: Yup..if she was driving a basic compact car she would probably have had a better feel for what was going on. The Mountaineer is basically the same vehicle as the "Roll Me Another One" Explorer so it could get exciting. About six months ago, we got my wife a new car, maybe one step up from your basic compact. We shopped five or six dealers, looking at several brands of four door sedans, including two "fancy lines." She ending up liking the Toyota Camry best because "it's a simple car, well-made, nice ride, and peppy." I was pretty surprised at how well it performs, since she opted for the naturally aspirated four cylinder engine. If this house deal goes through and I find myself in a position where I don't need a big truck for plowing or towing, I'll probably look for a small, economical car like the Camry. Haven't done a lot of looking or researching yet but I wouldn't mind getting something smaller as long as it is comfortable. The Mini Cooper I had a year or so ago was a lot of fun to drive but it was like riding on a high performance roller skate. I can't imagine taking a long distance trip in it. Kinda like the looks of the Ford Fusion also but don't know much about them. Only problem with the imports ... Toyota, Nissan, etc., is that they all look the same to me. And most I see are grey for some reason. === The most comfortable car we've ever owned is my wife's M-B E320. It's just super in every way - smooth, quiet, powerful and great seats. Consumer Reports rated it as one of the best cars they've ever driven. My wife had one for a company car for a while. She liked it, but I didn't. Too soft and no fun to drive. Her favorite was the Lexus LS460. I hated driving it, but it was nice to be a passenger, especially on a long trip. She had an A6 Quattro, and that's what introduced me to them. I've had two since then, currently still driving the second one. Love them. Comfortable, sporty, quick, and sure-footed with the quattro system. How's the service availability? That's one thing I learned about having some of the nicer, performance orientated, foreign made cars. For example, the BMW M5 called for special oil that was only available at the BMW dealership. Wasn't a big deal since oil changes were covered but if you were traveling and needed a quart (the M5 *did* use some oil, especially during break in) you would have to hunt for a BMW service place. The other thing I disliked about the BMW M5 was the very specific and long break in procedure. RPM was limited for the first 1,200 or 1,500 miles and then a gradual allowance to start "getting on it" until you had about 3,000 miles on it. The computer in the car recorded any violations of the procedure so, in the event of a problem, they could point their finger at you. Biggest problem for me was I had to go through this twice. They took back the first M5 I had due to many computer software problems. They assured me that the second one (same year but built 7 months later) had all the issues sorted out. They lied. BMWs seem a bit finicky to me. There are lots of things I hear about them that make me happy not to have one. I had a new BMW, a 2002ti, back in the good old days before these German cars became over-engineered and overly complicated. I wouldn't touch a new BMW or Audi these days because of their complexity and the price of service and spare parts. They're just too clever. The Porsches seem less gimmicky. Unless things have changed (and hopefully they have not) Porsche has seemed to continue the spirit and heritage of a true, high performance sports car. Even with modern changes like a water cooled engine and all wheel drive the one I had was still a blast to drive and handled like no other car I've ever driven. Still felt like a sports car even at 30 mph. The BMW's are refined and nice but, as you say, have become way too complex and software dependent. I loved my Boxster. Great car. I guy I know just bought a Cayman GT4. Serious bad-assed car. He also bought a Ferrari 308... the Magnum PI car. It has 24k miles on it. He tried to hand me they keys, but I declined. Between the gated shifter and getting in/out of it (it's tiny and LOW), I knew better. Cool car, though. This guy bought a bunch of Microsoft IPO, and I suspect he's cashing it in now. Good for him! That's another problem with the low slung sports cars. I am not quite as flexible as I was 20 or 30 years ago. :-) |
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On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 12:30:44 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 1/15/2016 12:22 PM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/15/16 12:19 PM, True North wrote: Keyser Söze - show quoted text - "About six months ago, we got my wife a new car, maybe one step up from your basic compact. We shopped five or six dealers, looking at several brands of four door sedans, including two "fancy lines." She ending up liking the Toyota Camry best because "it's a simple car, well-made, nice ride, and peppy." I was pretty surprised at how well it performs, since she opted for the naturally aspirated four cylinder engine." Too bad Toyota discontinued the V6 when they redesigned the Camry four or five years ago. It's a nice engine...plenty for my Highlander, the way I drive. Not sure if Camry has gone to the CVT type transmission yet. That seems to be the future but I'm not convinced the slightly better gas mileage is worth any negative traits...such as when towing etc. I think you can get a V6 in the Camry but once my wife test drove the Camry with the 4, she was "decided." On a recent long drive on I-95, she was able to average 38 and 40 mpg at 70 mph. Assuming they have a history of being reliable, I think the best combination is a small 4 banger with a turbo. The turbo adds plenty of pep when you need it but you don't have to get on it when you are just driving normally. Some of the turbo 4 cylinders can challenge the performance of a V8 in some cars. My driving habits have changed a great deal in the past few years. I don't drive fast ... I don't accelerate any faster than necessary ... and I am not in a big hurry to get anywhere anymore. Had my fun with the M5, Porsche and big old American muscle cars but I am over them. Like my wife's VW Jetta. 1.4L Turbo-diesel. Quick little bugger. -- Ban idiots, not guns! |
Wives and cars
On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 13:36:05 -0800 (PST), Its Me wrote:
On Friday, January 15, 2016 at 4:09:41 PM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 1/15/2016 3:27 PM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/15/16 2:19 PM, wrote: On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 13:35:16 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 1/15/2016 1:12 PM, wrote: On Friday, January 15, 2016 at 12:28:15 PM UTC-5, wrote: On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 11:47:10 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 1/15/2016 11:21 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/15/16 11:09 AM, wrote: On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 05:05:07 -0800 (PST), True North wrote: Yup..if she was driving a basic compact car she would probably have had a better feel for what was going on. The Mountaineer is basically the same vehicle as the "Roll Me Another One" Explorer so it could get exciting. About six months ago, we got my wife a new car, maybe one step up from your basic compact. We shopped five or six dealers, looking at several brands of four door sedans, including two "fancy lines." She ending up liking the Toyota Camry best because "it's a simple car, well-made, nice ride, and peppy." I was pretty surprised at how well it performs, since she opted for the naturally aspirated four cylinder engine. If this house deal goes through and I find myself in a position where I don't need a big truck for plowing or towing, I'll probably look for a small, economical car like the Camry. Haven't done a lot of looking or researching yet but I wouldn't mind getting something smaller as long as it is comfortable. The Mini Cooper I had a year or so ago was a lot of fun to drive but it was like riding on a high performance roller skate. I can't imagine taking a long distance trip in it. Kinda like the looks of the Ford Fusion also but don't know much about them. Only problem with the imports ... Toyota, Nissan, etc., is that they all look the same to me. And most I see are grey for some reason. === The most comfortable car we've ever owned is my wife's M-B E320. It's just super in every way - smooth, quiet, powerful and great seats. Consumer Reports rated it as one of the best cars they've ever driven. My wife had one for a company car for a while. She liked it, but I didn't. Too soft and no fun to drive. Her favorite was the Lexus LS460. I hated driving it, but it was nice to be a passenger, especially on a long trip. She had an A6 Quattro, and that's what introduced me to them. I've had two since then, currently still driving the second one. Love them. Comfortable, sporty, quick, and sure-footed with the quattro system. How's the service availability? That's one thing I learned about having some of the nicer, performance orientated, foreign made cars. For example, the BMW M5 called for special oil that was only available at the BMW dealership. Wasn't a big deal since oil changes were covered but if you were traveling and needed a quart (the M5 *did* use some oil, especially during break in) you would have to hunt for a BMW service place. The other thing I disliked about the BMW M5 was the very specific and long break in procedure. RPM was limited for the first 1,200 or 1,500 miles and then a gradual allowance to start "getting on it" until you had about 3,000 miles on it. The computer in the car recorded any violations of the procedure so, in the event of a problem, they could point their finger at you. Biggest problem for me was I had to go through this twice. They took back the first M5 I had due to many computer software problems. They assured me that the second one (same year but built 7 months later) had all the issues sorted out. They lied. BMWs seem a bit finicky to me. There are lots of things I hear about them that make me happy not to have one. I had a new BMW, a 2002ti, back in the good old days before these German cars became over-engineered and overly complicated. I wouldn't touch a new BMW or Audi these days because of their complexity and the price of service and spare parts. They're just too clever. The Porsches seem less gimmicky. Unless things have changed (and hopefully they have not) Porsche has seemed to continue the spirit and heritage of a true, high performance sports car. Even with modern changes like a water cooled engine and all wheel drive the one I had was still a blast to drive and handled like no other car I've ever driven. Still felt like a sports car even at 30 mph. The BMW's are refined and nice but, as you say, have become way too complex and software dependent. I loved my Boxster. Great car. I guy I know just bought a Cayman GT4. Serious bad-assed car. He also bought a Ferrari 308... the Magnum PI car. It has 24k miles on it. He tried to hand me they keys, but I declined. Between the gated shifter and getting in/out of it (it's tiny and LOW), I knew better. Cool car, though. This guy bought a bunch of Microsoft IPO, and I suspect he's cashing it in now. Good for him! I'd buy a Cayman in a heartbeat if it had more leg room. Like every mid-engined car I've tried, the seat needs to go back about 4-5 more inches. -- Ban idiots, not guns! |
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