Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/6/2016 2:37 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 6 Jan 2016 11:54:17 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Of course not. But, according to this, about 69 percent of murders
committed in the USA in 2012 were done with guns. Banning them,
(which nobody, including me is advocating) would certainly have an
affect on those stats. Check out:

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0004888.html

I know. Murderers will just use more clubs, hammers and knives, right?

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You forgot spears, cross bows and motor vehicles.

My suggestion is to remove all references to gun violence from the
mass media - television, movies, music, pulp fiction, etc. Over time
I think it would have far more influence than gun control.



I agree with that but it's hard to "cover up" mass shootings by a
deranged person ... and currently it seems difficult to ignore
minorities being shot by police. All puts a focus on guns as an
instrument of death.




He'll, we ignore most mass shootings. When 10 or 30 people are shot on a
weekend in Chicago, etc. with maybe 3-4 muerto, that is mostly ignoring
mass shootings involved with drugs.

On Wed, 6 Jan 2016 19:34:00 -0800, Califbill billnews wrote:

Mr. Luddite wrote:

I agree with that but it's hard to "cover up" mass shootings by a
deranged person ... and currently it seems difficult to ignore
minorities being shot by police. All puts a focus on guns as an
instrument of death.




He'll, we ignore most mass shootings. When 10 or 30 people are shot on a
weekend in Chicago, etc. with maybe 3-4 muerto, that is mostly ignoring
mass shootings involved with drugs.

They are not covering up these "mass shooting" deaths, they just lump
the drive bys in with the school shootings to rack up scary numbers
without mentioning these are people nobody cares about getting shot
and they don't try too hard to catch the shooters. (hence the
miserable percentage of "closures")

wrote:
On Wed, 6 Jan 2016 19:34:00 -0800, Califbill billnews wrote:

Mr. Luddite wrote:

I agree with that but it's hard to "cover up" mass shootings by a
deranged person ... and currently it seems difficult to ignore
minorities being shot by police. All puts a focus on guns as an
instrument of death.




He'll, we ignore most mass shootings. When 10 or 30 people are shot on a
weekend in Chicago, etc. with maybe 3-4 muerto, that is mostly ignoring
mass shootings involved with drugs.

They are not covering up these "mass shooting" deaths, they just lump
the drive bys in with the school shootings to rack up scary numbers
without mentioning these are people nobody cares about getting shot
and they don't try too hard to catch the shooters. (hence the
miserable percentage of "closures")


I did not say coverup. They are ignored for the most part.

On Thu, 7 Jan 2016 09:32:45 -0800, Califbill billnews wrote:

wrote:
On Wed, 6 Jan 2016 19:34:00 -0800, Califbill billnews wrote:

Mr. Luddite wrote:

I agree with that but it's hard to "cover up" mass shootings by a
deranged person ... and currently it seems difficult to ignore
minorities being shot by police. All puts a focus on guns as an
instrument of death.




He'll, we ignore most mass shootings. When 10 or 30 people are shot on a
weekend in Chicago, etc. with maybe 3-4 muerto, that is mostly ignoring
mass shootings involved with drugs.

They are not covering up these "mass shooting" deaths, they just lump
the drive bys in with the school shootings to rack up scary numbers
without mentioning these are people nobody cares about getting shot
and they don't try too hard to catch the shooters. (hence the
miserable percentage of "closures")


I did not say coverup. They are ignored for the most part.

They still get lumped in the stats when they are talking about the
cute little white kids who are shot, allowing the public to believe we
have a rash of "mass shootings".
The FBI goes out of it's way to not make it easy to find out who was
killed in the unsolved murders but if they are "citizens" (meaning
suburban middle class) an unsolved murder is front page news.

The only time "black lives matter" is when they are killed by a white
cop.

In Ft Myers a white doctor lady, beat to death with a hammer was one
of the top 10 stories last year (in the annual rollup). The 6 year old
black kid who was killed in a drive by did not make the list. It also
wasn't that important in their community because the witnesses refused
to testify when the cops caught the killer.
That does start to put a better light on the outrageous unclosed rate
tho.