On Tue, 05 Jan 2016 17:31:03 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Tue, 5 Jan 2016 17:15:53 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

I am sure your grandson is a fine, upstanding and responsible citizen.
How about the rest of the 322,785,869 citizens? Can you vouch for them
as well?



If I don't know them, I'll use an FFL, as any responsible gun owner would do.

I suggested a long time ago that they could just allow private sellers
access to the instant check system. Then people who want to do the
right thing could and the ones who don't, won't do the right thing
anyway.

On Tue, 5 Jan 2016 17:51:59 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


Actually, I was wrong. He wants to hire 200 and something more ATF/FBI
agents but the money is actually 500 million to root out and help those
with mental health issues.


That sounds more line campaign rhetoric than anything he can actually
deliver on. Where is a half billion dollars going to come from? Will
he just have Janet Yellen print it up for him?

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says...

On Tue, 5 Jan 2016 12:17:39 -0600, Boating All Out
wrote:

After all, about 90% of gun murderers use guns that were
legally purchased.

That is bull****. They don't even solve 90% of the murders, much less
find and trace the weapon.

So what? You can't name any recent gun mass murderer who
didn't use a legally purchased gun. Go ahead and try.
Might be over 95%. Prove otherwise.
What's the difference in background checking you, or Harry,
or Nancy Lanza, or Syed Rizwan Farook?
No difference at all.
Just get used to it.

Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/5/16 8:49 AM, amdx wrote:
My wife ask me to buy her a Sig Sauer P238 Nitron.
I'm looking over websites and found Top Gun Supply.
Has anyone purchased from TOP GUN?
What paperwork is involved for an internet purchase?
We have Florida CC permits.

Mikek

Typically, you have to have a pistol shipped from a legitimate selling
dealer to a dealer with a federal firearms license in your area, from
whom you can pick it up. The local dealer might charge from $20 to $40
for the privilege. I've done this a few times...it's not complicated.




It's not a "privilege", they are not in the business of selling other
people's guns. $20-$25 is normal for the transfer fee and fair.

On Tue, 5 Jan 2016 16:55:31 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Tuesday, January 5, 2016 at 6:49:03 PM UTC-6, Sing Free wrote:
'John H.[_5_ Wrote:
;1052329']On Tuesday, January 5, 2016 at 8:49:25 AM UTC-5, amdx wrote:-
My wife ask me to buy her a Sig Sauer P238 Nitron.
I'm looking over websites and found Top Gun Supply.
Has anyone purchased from TOP GUN?
What paperwork is involved for an internet purchase?
We have Florida CC permits.

Mikek-

Forgot to mention... I bought this one for my wife. She loves it.

http://www.sigsauer.com/CatalogProdu...8-equinox.aspx
I bought my wife a Smith & Wesson M&P Shield 9mm and she loves hers
also.




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Sing Free

Those are a nice pistol. My nephew has one which I've fired several times. I like it with the exception of one feature, in that it's hammerless. Im too old school. LOL. Otherwise....

Hammerless is basically for people who want it in their pocket.

7:58
On Tue, 5 Jan 2016 16:55:31 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:
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Hammerless is basically for people who want it in their pocket.
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Well I have carried my chambered Hungarian MAK in my pocket and I just like the feel of my thumb on the hammer knowing I could draw'n cock it simultaneously... I simply feel better about it.

On Tue, 5 Jan 2016 17:24:49 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

I thought that in our system of government, majority rules.

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Not so fast there. One of the reasons that it took so long to hammer
out the original constitution is that the smaller states did not want
to be dominated by the larger ones. That's why we have two senators
per state regardless of population among other things. There are a
*lot* of people who do not want to be governed by the concepts and
needs of the big population centers but unfortunately that seems to be
the trend of things.

On Tue, 05 Jan 2016 17:10:37 -0500, John H.
wrote:

Reince Priebus, the head of the Republican National Committee, said the changes were
"all about burnishing the president’s legacy and boosting Democrat enthusiasm in a
presidential election year."

I totally agree.

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I call it political theater.

On Tue, 5 Jan 2016 16:53:26 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Not sure about them being a federal felony. Were the sellers officially
"dealers"? As I understand current federal laws, if
they are not dealers, a background check is not required. Correct me
if I am wrong please.

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I believe the federal felony occurred whrn they crossed state lines.

On Tue, 5 Jan 2016 19:23:26 -0600, Boating All Out
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 5 Jan 2016 12:17:39 -0600, Boating All Out
wrote:

After all, about 90% of gun murderers use guns that were
legally purchased.

That is bull****. They don't even solve 90% of the murders, much less
find and trace the weapon.

So what? You can't name any recent gun mass murderer who
didn't use a legally purchased gun. Go ahead and try.
Might be over 95%. Prove otherwise.
What's the difference in background checking you, or Harry,
or Nancy Lanza, or Syed Rizwan Farook?
No difference at all.
Just get used to it.

You are talking about something less than 1% of the murders. There are
~11,000 a year and the news makers account for less than 100.
Go look at the number of unsolved murders in the big cities where most
of these people fall. Then get back to me. If you want to "Harry out"
I will go get the FBI UCR and do it myself. I have the 2013 in a
spreadsheet as we speak.