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Mr. Luddite January 5th 16 05:07 PM

Purchasing a Pistol
 
On 1/5/2016 11:19 AM, John H. wrote:
On Tuesday, January 5, 2016 at 10:09:11 AM UTC-5, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/5/16 10:00 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 5 Jan 2016 09:41:44 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 1/5/16 8:49 AM, amdx wrote:
My wife ask me to buy her a Sig Sauer P238 Nitron.
I'm looking over websites and found Top Gun Supply.
Has anyone purchased from TOP GUN?
What paperwork is involved for an internet purchase?
We have Florida CC permits.

Mikek

Typically, you have to have a pistol shipped from a legitimate selling
dealer to a dealer with a federal firearms license in your area, from
whom you can pick it up. The local dealer might charge from $20 to $40
for the privilege. I've done this a few times...it's not complicated.


Why don't you tell this to your gun control liars. They are trying to
spin it that buying a gun on the internet is like getting a case of
Charmin from Amazon Prime. They would have you believe you get it in
the mail the next day.



Obviously you missed the phrase "legitimate selling dealer to a dealer
with a federal firearms license". There are other, non-legitimate ways
to buy and sell firearms, eh?


Point us to one of your 'non-legitimate' (is that the same as 'illegitimate')internet sellers. Or is that just more Krauseheiße?



Harry didn't limit purchases to the Internet. He said, "There are
other, non-legitimate ways to buy and sell firearms." Good example was
the hotly debated (here) CNN documentary whereby firearms were purchased
without even being asked for identification, let alone a background check.





John H.[_5_] January 5th 16 05:36 PM

Purchasing a Pistol
 
On Tue, 5 Jan 2016 12:07:55 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 1/5/2016 11:19 AM, John H. wrote:
On Tuesday, January 5, 2016 at 10:09:11 AM UTC-5, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/5/16 10:00 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 5 Jan 2016 09:41:44 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 1/5/16 8:49 AM, amdx wrote:
My wife ask me to buy her a Sig Sauer P238 Nitron.
I'm looking over websites and found Top Gun Supply.
Has anyone purchased from TOP GUN?
What paperwork is involved for an internet purchase?
We have Florida CC permits.

Mikek

Typically, you have to have a pistol shipped from a legitimate selling
dealer to a dealer with a federal firearms license in your area, from
whom you can pick it up. The local dealer might charge from $20 to $40
for the privilege. I've done this a few times...it's not complicated.


Why don't you tell this to your gun control liars. They are trying to
spin it that buying a gun on the internet is like getting a case of
Charmin from Amazon Prime. They would have you believe you get it in
the mail the next day.



Obviously you missed the phrase "legitimate selling dealer to a dealer
with a federal firearms license". There are other, non-legitimate ways
to buy and sell firearms, eh?


Point us to one of your 'non-legitimate' (is that the same as 'illegitimate')internet sellers. Or is that just more Krauseheiße?



Harry didn't limit purchases to the Internet. He said, "There are
other, non-legitimate ways to buy and sell firearms." Good example was
the hotly debated (here) CNN documentary whereby firearms were purchased
without even being asked for identification, let alone a background check.




The discussion was about 'internet purchases'.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

[email protected] January 5th 16 07:50 PM

Purchasing a Pistol
 
On Tue, 5 Jan 2016 12:07:55 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 1/5/2016 11:19 AM, John H. wrote:
On Tuesday, January 5, 2016 at 10:09:11 AM UTC-5, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/5/16 10:00 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 5 Jan 2016 09:41:44 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 1/5/16 8:49 AM, amdx wrote:
My wife ask me to buy her a Sig Sauer P238 Nitron.
I'm looking over websites and found Top Gun Supply.
Has anyone purchased from TOP GUN?
What paperwork is involved for an internet purchase?
We have Florida CC permits.

Mikek

Typically, you have to have a pistol shipped from a legitimate selling
dealer to a dealer with a federal firearms license in your area, from
whom you can pick it up. The local dealer might charge from $20 to $40
for the privilege. I've done this a few times...it's not complicated.


Why don't you tell this to your gun control liars. They are trying to
spin it that buying a gun on the internet is like getting a case of
Charmin from Amazon Prime. They would have you believe you get it in
the mail the next day.



Obviously you missed the phrase "legitimate selling dealer to a dealer
with a federal firearms license". There are other, non-legitimate ways
to buy and sell firearms, eh?


Point us to one of your 'non-legitimate' (is that the same as 'illegitimate')internet sellers. Or is that just more Krauseheiße?



Harry didn't limit purchases to the Internet. He said, "There are
other, non-legitimate ways to buy and sell firearms." Good example was
the hotly debated (here) CNN documentary whereby firearms were purchased
without even being asked for identification, let alone a background check.




Don't skip the part where EVERY ONE OF THOSE purchases was a federal
and state felony.
You might as well say we need a law against murder.

[email protected] January 5th 16 07:51 PM

Purchasing a Pistol
 
On Tue, 5 Jan 2016 12:54:46 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Understood. Just pointing out that Harry is absolutely correct in
stating that there are many ways of acquiring a gun without any kind
of background check. That's just not right, IMO.


Yeah, the easiest way is to just steal it.

[email protected] January 5th 16 07:55 PM

Purchasing a Pistol
 
On Tue, 5 Jan 2016 12:17:39 -0600, Boating All Out
wrote:

After all, about 90% of gun murderers use guns that were
legally purchased.


That is bull****. They don't even solve 90% of the murders, much less
find and trace the weapon.


Califbill January 5th 16 08:20 PM

Purchasing a Pistol
 
wrote:
On Tue, 05 Jan 2016 09:55:15 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Tue, 5 Jan 2016 07:49:12 -0600, amdx wrote:

My wife ask me to buy her a Sig Sauer P238 Nitron.
I'm looking over websites and found Top Gun Supply.
Has anyone purchased from TOP GUN?
What paperwork is involved for an internet purchase?
We have Florida CC permits.

Mikek


Top Gun provides info on 'how to buy' on their website:

http://www.topgunsupply.com/gun-shipping-info.html

Don't know where you are in FL, but here's their listing of FFL holders in the state.

http://www.gunbroker.com/FFL/SearchF...st=State&sv=FL

Bud's Guns may have a better assortment of FFL holders in your area. Plug in your zip
code here. I'd pick the closest and cheapest.

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/ffl.php

Be sure to check out the gun before you take it from the FFL holder.


Bud certainly looks better for my area. Top gun doesn't have anyone
within 100 miles


I bet the Bud's FFL's would do,a TopGun transfer equally.


[email protected] January 5th 16 08:29 PM

Purchasing a Pistol
 
On Tue, 5 Jan 2016 12:07:55 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 1/5/2016 11:19 AM, John H. wrote:
On Tuesday, January 5, 2016 at 10:09:11 AM UTC-5, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/5/16 10:00 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 5 Jan 2016 09:41:44 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 1/5/16 8:49 AM, amdx wrote:
My wife ask me to buy her a Sig Sauer P238 Nitron.
I'm looking over websites and found Top Gun Supply.
Has anyone purchased from TOP GUN?
What paperwork is involved for an internet purchase?
We have Florida CC permits.

Mikek

Typically, you have to have a pistol shipped from a legitimate selling
dealer to a dealer with a federal firearms license in your area, from
whom you can pick it up. The local dealer might charge from $20 to $40
for the privilege. I've done this a few times...it's not complicated.


Why don't you tell this to your gun control liars. They are trying to
spin it that buying a gun on the internet is like getting a case of
Charmin from Amazon Prime. They would have you believe you get it in
the mail the next day.



Obviously you missed the phrase "legitimate selling dealer to a dealer
with a federal firearms license". There are other, non-legitimate ways
to buy and sell firearms, eh?


Point us to one of your 'non-legitimate' (is that the same as 'illegitimate')internet sellers. Or is that just more Krauseheiße?



Harry didn't limit purchases to the Internet. He said, "There are
other, non-legitimate ways to buy and sell firearms." Good example was
the hotly debated (here) CNN documentary whereby firearms were purchased
without even being asked for identification, let alone a background check.

===

Isn't that the one where the CNN folks broke the law and no one was
arrested?

Sing Free January 5th 16 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John H.[_5_] (Post 1052329)
On Tuesday, January 5, 2016 at 8:49:25 AM UTC-5, amdx wrote:
My wife ask me to buy her a Sig Sauer P238 Nitron.
I'm looking over websites and found Top Gun Supply.
Has anyone purchased from TOP GUN?
What paperwork is involved for an internet purchase?
We have Florida CC permits.

Mikek


Forgot to mention... I bought this one for my wife. She loves it.

http://www.sigsauer.com/CatalogProdu...8-equinox.aspx

I bought my wife a Smith & Wesson M&P Shield 9mm and she loves hers also.

John H.[_5_] January 5th 16 09:46 PM

Purchasing a Pistol
 
On Tue, 5 Jan 2016 12:20:55 -0800, Califbill billnews wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 05 Jan 2016 09:55:15 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Tue, 5 Jan 2016 07:49:12 -0600, amdx wrote:

My wife ask me to buy her a Sig Sauer P238 Nitron.
I'm looking over websites and found Top Gun Supply.
Has anyone purchased from TOP GUN?
What paperwork is involved for an internet purchase?
We have Florida CC permits.

Mikek

Top Gun provides info on 'how to buy' on their website:

http://www.topgunsupply.com/gun-shipping-info.html

Don't know where you are in FL, but here's their listing of FFL holders in the state.

http://www.gunbroker.com/FFL/SearchF...st=State&sv=FL

Bud's Guns may have a better assortment of FFL holders in your area. Plug in your zip
code here. I'd pick the closest and cheapest.

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/ffl.php

Be sure to check out the gun before you take it from the FFL holder.


Bud certainly looks better for my area. Top gun doesn't have anyone
within 100 miles


I bet the Bud's FFL's would do,a TopGun transfer equally.


I've never had an FFL be particular about which dealer the gun came from. To my
knowledge, there is no relationship between Bud's and a particular FFL. I've gotten
guns from three different sources through the same FFL.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

Mr. Luddite January 5th 16 09:53 PM

Purchasing a Pistol
 
On 1/5/2016 2:50 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 5 Jan 2016 12:07:55 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 1/5/2016 11:19 AM, John H. wrote:
On Tuesday, January 5, 2016 at 10:09:11 AM UTC-5, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/5/16 10:00 AM,
wrote:
On Tue, 5 Jan 2016 09:41:44 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 1/5/16 8:49 AM, amdx wrote:
My wife ask me to buy her a Sig Sauer P238 Nitron.
I'm looking over websites and found Top Gun Supply.
Has anyone purchased from TOP GUN?
What paperwork is involved for an internet purchase?
We have Florida CC permits.

Mikek

Typically, you have to have a pistol shipped from a legitimate selling
dealer to a dealer with a federal firearms license in your area, from
whom you can pick it up. The local dealer might charge from $20 to $40
for the privilege. I've done this a few times...it's not complicated.


Why don't you tell this to your gun control liars. They are trying to
spin it that buying a gun on the internet is like getting a case of
Charmin from Amazon Prime. They would have you believe you get it in
the mail the next day.



Obviously you missed the phrase "legitimate selling dealer to a dealer
with a federal firearms license". There are other, non-legitimate ways
to buy and sell firearms, eh?

Point us to one of your 'non-legitimate' (is that the same as 'illegitimate')internet sellers. Or is that just more Krauseheiße?



Harry didn't limit purchases to the Internet. He said, "There are
other, non-legitimate ways to buy and sell firearms." Good example was
the hotly debated (here) CNN documentary whereby firearms were purchased
without even being asked for identification, let alone a background check.




Don't skip the part where EVERY ONE OF THOSE purchases was a federal
and state felony.
You might as well say we need a law against murder.


Not sure about them being a federal felony. Were the sellers officially
"dealers"? As I understand current federal laws, if
they are not dealers, a background check is not required. Correct me
if I am wrong please.

My understanding of his executive action is that *all* transactions
will require a background check, FFL dealer or casual seller.

As for the state laws, yes, I think I recall it mentioned that the
seller was supposed to verify the buyer's address to make sure he
was not from out of state. Only one of the sellers did so, IIRC.



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