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John H. wrote:
On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 20:42:04 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

wrote:
On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 19:56:38 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

wrote:
On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 17:16:12 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

wrote:
On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 15:53:32 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 12/21/15 3:23 PM, John H. wrote:
What a pile of ****.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/johngogl...cly-available/
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Awwwwwwwwww. :)

Maybe they should make the Maryland firearms registry public.


What registry?
The list of people with a handgun license?


Are you referring to a carry permit or the HQL?

Why not both of them. It might be easy to argue those people are as
much of an interest to the public as a guy with a 9 ounce drone.

I doubt you would mind though since any government intrusion into your
rights and privacy seem fine with you.

All the carry permit states is that you can carry, and the HQL states you
can buy a handgun. Neither states whether you own a handgun. There is no
firearms regustry.

So it would be OK if Maryland published the names and address of those with a


It would be ok with me.

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On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 21:20:17 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 20:42:04 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

wrote:
On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 19:56:38 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

wrote:
On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 17:16:12 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

wrote:
On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 15:53:32 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 12/21/15 3:23 PM, John H. wrote:
What a pile of ****.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/johngogl...cly-available/
--


Awwwwwwwwww. :)

Maybe they should make the Maryland firearms registry public.


What registry?
The list of people with a handgun license?


Are you referring to a carry permit or the HQL?

Why not both of them. It might be easy to argue those people are as
much of an interest to the public as a guy with a 9 ounce drone.

I doubt you would mind though since any government intrusion into your
rights and privacy seem fine with you.

All the carry permit states is that you can carry, and the HQL states you
can buy a handgun. Neither states whether you own a handgun. There is no
firearms regustry.

So it would be OK if Maryland published the names and address of those with a


It would be ok with me.

===

Cool.

We need someone to make a Freedom of Information request.

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On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 20:42:04 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

wrote:
On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 19:56:38 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

wrote:
On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 17:16:12 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

wrote:
On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 15:53:32 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 12/21/15 3:23 PM, John H. wrote:
What a pile of ****.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/johngogl...cly-available/
--


Awwwwwwwwww. :)

Maybe they should make the Maryland firearms registry public.


What registry?
The list of people with a handgun license?


Are you referring to a carry permit or the HQL?

Why not both of them. It might be easy to argue those people are as
much of an interest to the public as a guy with a 9 ounce drone.

I doubt you would mind though since any government intrusion into your
rights and privacy seem fine with you.

All the carry permit states is that you can carry, and the HQL states you
can buy a handgun. Neither states whether you own a handgun. There is no
firearms regustry.

As usual you avoided the question over semantics.
How would you feel if those records were all public.

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On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 21:25:23 -0500,
wrote:

On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 21:20:17 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 20:42:04 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

wrote:
On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 19:56:38 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

wrote:
On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 17:16:12 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

wrote:
On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 15:53:32 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 12/21/15 3:23 PM, John H. wrote:
What a pile of ****.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/johngogl...cly-available/
--


Awwwwwwwwww. :)

Maybe they should make the Maryland firearms registry public.


What registry?
The list of people with a handgun license?


Are you referring to a carry permit or the HQL?

Why not both of them. It might be easy to argue those people are as
much of an interest to the public as a guy with a 9 ounce drone.

I doubt you would mind though since any government intrusion into your
rights and privacy seem fine with you.

All the carry permit states is that you can carry, and the HQL states you
can buy a handgun. Neither states whether you own a handgun. There is no
firearms regustry.

So it would be OK if Maryland published the names and address of those with a


It would be ok with me.

===

Cool.

We need someone to make a Freedom of Information request.

There are 10 states that allow these records to be released. Md and
Fla are not on the list.

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On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 21:58:37 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 21:25:23 -0500,
wrote:

On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 21:20:17 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 20:42:04 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

wrote:
On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 19:56:38 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

wrote:
On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 17:16:12 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

wrote:
On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 15:53:32 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 12/21/15 3:23 PM, John H. wrote:
What a pile of ****.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/johngogl...cly-available/
--


Awwwwwwwwww. :)

Maybe they should make the Maryland firearms registry public.


What registry?
The list of people with a handgun license?


Are you referring to a carry permit or the HQL?

Why not both of them. It might be easy to argue those people are as
much of an interest to the public as a guy with a 9 ounce drone.

I doubt you would mind though since any government intrusion into your
rights and privacy seem fine with you.

All the carry permit states is that you can carry, and the HQL states you
can buy a handgun. Neither states whether you own a handgun. There is no
firearms regustry.

So it would be OK if Maryland published the names and address of those with a


It would be ok with me.

===

Cool.

We need someone to make a Freedom of Information request.

There are 10 states that allow these records to be released. Md and
Fla are not on the list.

===

Drat. We'll have to get the lawyers on it. :-)

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On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 17:16:12 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

wrote:
On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 15:53:32 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 12/21/15 3:23 PM, John H. wrote:
What a pile of ****.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/johngogl...cly-available/
--


Awwwwwwwwww. :)

Maybe they should make the Maryland firearms registry public.


What registry?

When you purchase a firearm from an FFL in Maryland does he record the
purchase with your name, permit or license number, gun model or type and
serial number?

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On 12/21/2015 8:42 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
wrote:
On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 19:56:38 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

wrote:
On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 17:16:12 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

wrote:
On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 15:53:32 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 12/21/15 3:23 PM, John H. wrote:
What a pile of ****.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/johngogl...cly-available/
--


Awwwwwwwwww. :)

Maybe they should make the Maryland firearms registry public.


What registry?
The list of people with a handgun license?


Are you referring to a carry permit or the HQL?

Why not both of them. It might be easy to argue those people are as
much of an interest to the public as a guy with a 9 ounce drone.

I doubt you would mind though since any government intrusion into your
rights and privacy seem fine with you.

All the carry permit states is that you can carry, and the HQL states you
can buy a handgun. Neither states whether you own a handgun. There is no
firearms regustry.



Curious. There is no record of the purchase? (assuming the purchase is
from an FFL or licensed gun shop).

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On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 00:27:55 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:


On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 17:16:12 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

wrote:
On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 15:53:32 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 12/21/15 3:23 PM, John H. wrote:
What a pile of ****.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/johngogl...cly-available/
--


Awwwwwwwwww. :)

Maybe they should make the Maryland firearms registry public.


What registry?

When you purchase a firearm from an FFL in Maryland does he record the
purchase with your name, permit or license number, gun model or type and
serial number?


They sure do in Virginia.
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Ban idiots, not guns!

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On 12/22/2015 10:20 AM, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 00:27:55 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:


On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 17:16:12 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

wrote:
On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 15:53:32 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 12/21/15 3:23 PM, John H. wrote:
What a pile of ****.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/johngogl...cly-available/
--


Awwwwwwwwww. :)

Maybe they should make the Maryland firearms registry public.


What registry?

When you purchase a firearm from an FFL in Maryland does he record the
purchase with your name, permit or license number, gun model or type and
serial number?


They sure do in Virginia.

Isn't that a "registry" of sorts?

I think in some states the FFL is required to maintain purchase records
for some number of years. Those records, identifying the purchaser, the
gun model and serial number would be available to LEOs if required.

I believe that my state electronically records purchase records into a
state data base. This applies to both FFL and private sales.

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On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 10:28:35 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 12/22/2015 10:20 AM, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 00:27:55 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:


On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 17:16:12 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

wrote:
On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 15:53:32 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 12/21/15 3:23 PM, John H. wrote:
What a pile of ****.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/johngogl...cly-available/
--


Awwwwwwwwww. :)

Maybe they should make the Maryland firearms registry public.


What registry?

When you purchase a firearm from an FFL in Maryland does he record the
purchase with your name, permit or license number, gun model or type and
serial number?


They sure do in Virginia.

Isn't that a "registry" of sorts?

Absolutely.

I think in some states the FFL is required to maintain purchase records
for some number of years. Those records, identifying the purchaser, the
gun model and serial number would be available to LEOs if required.

I believe that my state electronically records purchase records into a
state data base. This applies to both FFL and private sales.


Have a few questions about storing paperwork...

1) How long do FFL's need to keep the DROS & 4473 paperwork?


The Federal paperwork has to be kept for 20 years for completed transfers, 5 years
for non-completed transfers. The DROS forms are to be retained for 3 years.


2) Does the paperwork need to be stored onsite the entire time?


Yes, it has to be stored at the licensed location. Although the FFL can turn over
records to the BATF, so in that case it would not be stored at the licensed location.


3) Do all pages of the 4473 need to be kept (including pages 3-6)?

Yes, it is part of the 4473.
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Ban idiots, not guns!