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In article h5ce7bll0d07st136kg2i30sikqkdotou7@
4ax.com, says...

On Sun, 20 Dec 2015 11:23:58 -0600, Boating All Out
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On 12/19/15 10:06 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 21:32:58 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 12/19/15 8:14 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 18:52:58 -0500, John H.

I think it is because the teacher/professors are not particularly
computer literate (Apple is for people who don't want to know they
have a computer) but it does put the kids at a disadvantage when they
get out in the world and find out most businesses run Windows.


I continue to find your comments about Apple computers and their
owner/operators laughable, especially since I know a few high-level
programmers who work almost exclusively with Apple computers. The "most
businesses that run windows" are simply running apps that run under
windows, and many of the same apps run under the apple OS. You think
that the Microsoft Office Suite, probably the most popular and commonly
found "business app" anywhere gives a **** whether it is running under
windows or apple OS?
\
You can't deny that the machine on your desk will be Wintel if you are
in most businesses.

So? McDonalds still sells mass quantities of ****ty burgers.

Apple's selling point is ease of use. You've said
that yourself. I'm something of an "PC expert,' and
when asked for my recommendation for a laptop for a
college student, I always recommend Apple if the
person can afford it. It's just easier to use for
the neophyte. But that thinking may be dated now.
It's not a disadvantage for future work however,
since Apple and Wintel are virtually the same, except
for the price.
Apple sure gets its brand name out there among
newscasters, with the Apple logo often in prominent
view on their desks.
****ing effete snobs.



Apple is fine until you want to do something Apple didn't think you
would do.
Henc, my formerly Apple loving Dutch neighbor showed up with a Samsung
Note and when I asked him why the change of heart, he said his
"I-phone would not run his drone"

Nobody has said anything specific that favors Apple
over Wintel, so I'll no longer recommend them for
college students - though that hasn't happened for
about 10 years.
Wintel laptops have greatly improved since then.
My son says iPhones are easier to learn how to
use and update. But he has a Samsung Android.

Interesting gun. I don't have one...
 

On Sun, 20 Dec 2015 18:55:23 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/20/2015 6:32 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 20 Dec 2015 17:13:45 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/20/2015 4:55 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 20 Dec 2015 15:52:30 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Even when you download iTunes
and install on a Windows based computer it takes forever. That was the
first thing I noticed on the iMac when updating the OS. Come to think
of it, even the OS revisions for the iPad take a long time.

===

That's because the first thing that iTunes does is lay claim to all of
your music files, rename them, and restructure your music directories.
It took me a week to get everything back to the way I wanted it.



You are right. I had forgotten that. I deleted iTunes from this and my
previous Vista computer because I got tired of doing everything to do
with music files the "Apple" way. Much better saving the files where I
want them, not where Apple thinks they should be.


You can put the music files wherever you want. Mine reside on my server, a
non-apple product, and are accessible via all our devices, via hardwire, wi
fi or via data sources off the premises.

AKA avoiding Apple when you can


That was my conclusion. I tried using iTunes for my music files but
found it to be convoluted and way too complex to use. I stored the
music in folders I created and organized instead. I kept iTunes on all
the computers (the Vista laptop and this Win 7) while I had the iMac
and was trying to get used to it. When I got rid of the iMac I also got
rid of iTunes.

I remember once that iTunes automatically started changing mp3
extensions to mp4 which ****ed me off. The older Vista computer
couldn't read mp4 so, in order to send a file via the wifi network from
the iMac to the Vista, I had to manually change the extension back to
mp3. Don't know why Apple decided to make that change. It started
after one of the many iTunes "updates".


Yeah, it was really difficult. I set up a directory on my sever and pointed
itunes at it. Whew! ? guess some would find that . . . Tough.

Some folks are almost omniscient, don't you think?
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

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On 12/20/2015 7:38 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 12/20/15 7:16 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/20/2015 6:55 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/20/2015 6:32 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 20 Dec 2015 17:13:45 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/20/2015 4:55 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 20 Dec 2015 15:52:30 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"

wrote:

Even when you download iTunes
and install on a Windows based computer it takes forever. That
was the
first thing I noticed on the iMac when updating the OS. Come to
think
of it, even the OS revisions for the iPad take a long time.

===

That's because the first thing that iTunes does is lay claim to
all of
your music files, rename them, and restructure your music
directories.
It took me a week to get everything back to the way I wanted it.



You are right. I had forgotten that. I deleted iTunes from this
and my
previous Vista computer because I got tired of doing everything
to do
with music files the "Apple" way. Much better saving the files
where I
want them, not where Apple thinks they should be.


You can put the music files wherever you want. Mine reside on my
server, a
non-apple product, and are accessible via all our devices, via
hardwire, wi
fi or via data sources off the premises.

AKA avoiding Apple when you can


That was my conclusion. I tried using iTunes for my music files but
found it to be convoluted and way too complex to use. I stored the
music in folders I created and organized instead. I kept iTunes on all
the computers (the Vista laptop and this Win 7) while I had the iMac
and was trying to get used to it. When I got rid of the iMac I also
got
rid of iTunes.

I remember once that iTunes automatically started changing mp3
extensions to mp4 which ****ed me off. The older Vista computer
couldn't read mp4 so, in order to send a file via the wifi network from
the iMac to the Vista, I had to manually change the extension back to
mp3. Don't know why Apple decided to make that change. It started
after one of the many iTunes "updates".


Yeah, it was really difficult. I set up a directory on my sever and
pointed
itunes at it. Whew! 😅 guess some would find that . . . Tough.


I didn't say it was "tough". I said it ****ed me off because I didn't
want them stored as mp4 files. I saved them as mp3 but iTunes decided
they should be mp4. There was no notice of the change whenever they
decided to start doing this. I discovered by accident that right
clicking on the file allowed me to transfer it via the network as a mp3
rather than an mp4. Another one of those "intuitive" Apple things that
you should just *know*, I guess.



It's well-hidden in the help files:

Choose import options
Choose iTunes Preferences, click General, and click Import Settings.

Choose an encoding format from the Import Using pop-up menu.

AAC Encoder: Use for most music. You can listen to songs encoded using
this format in iTunes, on iPhone and iPad, and on iPod models that come
with a dock connector.

AIFF Encoder: Use if you want to burn high-quality CDs with the songs
you’re importing without losing audio quality.

Apple Lossless Encoder: Use if you want to listen to imported songs on
audiophile-quality sound systems without losing audio quality. (Songs
imported using this format take up much more disk space.)

MP3 Encoder: Use if you plan to listen to music in apps other than
iTunes, or on MP3 players other than iPod, iPhone, or iPad.

WAV Encoder: Use if you’ll be playing your songs on a computer that
doesn’t have MP3 software.

Choose a bit rate from the Setting pop-up menu (not available with Apple
Lossless Encoder). In most cases, the default selection works well. If
you chose MP3 Encoder, you can choose one of the following:

Good Quality: Choose to fit more songs on a portable MP3 player with
limited storage capacity.

High Quality: Choose if you play music in a noisy environment. This
setting creates files that are about 1 MB in size per minute of music.

Higher Quality: Choose if you plan to create your own audio CDs or
listen to your music with high-quality stereo speakers.

Custom: Choose for greater control over the file size and sound quality.


Of course, you might have to spend 30 seconds calling up the built in
help file.


I remember reading it after I found it by accident. I never found an
option to store them only as mp3 by a default setting though. Maybe you
can but I never found it. It may be a minor task to have to select the
format and extension but it's still a nuisance and another example of
Apple software deciding stuff for you.

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On Sun, 20 Dec 2015 18:41:53 -0600, Boating All Out
wrote:

In article h5ce7bll0d07st136kg2i30sikqkdotou7@
4ax.com, says...

On Sun, 20 Dec 2015 11:23:58 -0600, Boating All Out
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On 12/19/15 10:06 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 21:32:58 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 12/19/15 8:14 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 18:52:58 -0500, John H.

I think it is because the teacher/professors are not particularly
computer literate (Apple is for people who don't want to know they
have a computer) but it does put the kids at a disadvantage when they
get out in the world and find out most businesses run Windows.


I continue to find your comments about Apple computers and their
owner/operators laughable, especially since I know a few high-level
programmers who work almost exclusively with Apple computers. The "most
businesses that run windows" are simply running apps that run under
windows, and many of the same apps run under the apple OS. You think
that the Microsoft Office Suite, probably the most popular and commonly
found "business app" anywhere gives a **** whether it is running under
windows or apple OS?
\
You can't deny that the machine on your desk will be Wintel if you are
in most businesses.

So? McDonalds still sells mass quantities of ****ty burgers.

Apple's selling point is ease of use. You've said
that yourself. I'm something of an "PC expert,' and
when asked for my recommendation for a laptop for a
college student, I always recommend Apple if the
person can afford it. It's just easier to use for
the neophyte. But that thinking may be dated now.
It's not a disadvantage for future work however,
since Apple and Wintel are virtually the same, except
for the price.
Apple sure gets its brand name out there among
newscasters, with the Apple logo often in prominent
view on their desks.
****ing effete snobs.



Apple is fine until you want to do something Apple didn't think you
would do.
Henc, my formerly Apple loving Dutch neighbor showed up with a Samsung
Note and when I asked him why the change of heart, he said his
"I-phone would not run his drone"

Nobody has said anything specific that favors Apple
over Wintel, so I'll no longer recommend them for
college students - though that hasn't happened for
about 10 years.
Wintel laptops have greatly improved since then.
My son says iPhones are easier to learn how to
use and update. But he has a Samsung Android.

Apple is wonderful if you want to what Steve thought you wanted to do
but that is the "cult" part.

If you want to control your experience you want Windows

If you really just want to crunch data (up to music files), run DOS.

Interesting gun. I don't have one...
 

On 12/20/2015 7:24 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/20/2015 6:55 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/20/2015 6:32 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 20 Dec 2015 17:13:45 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/20/2015 4:55 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 20 Dec 2015 15:52:30 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Even when you download iTunes
and install on a Windows based computer it takes forever. That was the
first thing I noticed on the iMac when updating the OS. Come to think
of it, even the OS revisions for the iPad take a long time.

===

That's because the first thing that iTunes does is lay claim to all of
your music files, rename them, and restructure your music directories.
It took me a week to get everything back to the way I wanted it.



You are right. I had forgotten that. I deleted iTunes from this and my
previous Vista computer because I got tired of doing everything to do
with music files the "Apple" way. Much better saving the files where I
want them, not where Apple thinks they should be.


You can put the music files wherever you want. Mine reside on my server, a
non-apple product, and are accessible via all our devices, via hardwire, wi
fi or via data sources off the premises.

AKA avoiding Apple when you can


That was my conclusion. I tried using iTunes for my music files but
found it to be convoluted and way too complex to use. I stored the
music in folders I created and organized instead. I kept iTunes on all
the computers (the Vista laptop and this Win 7) while I had the iMac
and was trying to get used to it. When I got rid of the iMac I also got
rid of iTunes.

I remember once that iTunes automatically started changing mp3
extensions to mp4 which ****ed me off. The older Vista computer
couldn't read mp4 so, in order to send a file via the wifi network from
the iMac to the Vista, I had to manually change the extension back to
mp3. Don't know why Apple decided to make that change. It started
after one of the many iTunes "updates".


Yeah, it was really difficult. I set up a directory on my sever and pointed
itunes at it. Whew! 😅 guess some would find that . . . Tough.


I didn't say it was "tough". I said it ****ed me off because I didn't
want them stored as mp4 files. I saved them as mp3 but iTunes decided
they should be mp4. There was no notice of the change whenever they
decided to start doing this. I discovered by accident that right
clicking on the file allowed me to transfer it via the network as a mp3
rather than an mp4. Another one of those "intuitive" Apple things that
you should just *know*, I guess.




I make oldies mp3s CDS from iTunes for a buddy. Easy.

I used to make oldie CD's often but CD's are so old fashioned now. :-)

My lawyer buddy has an unbelievable music file collection with just
about every album or single by just about every artist, dating from
the late 1930's up to the 1980's. He's a Mac nut and actually worked
for Apple helping develop applications. On my 60th birthday he gave me
an external hard drive on which he had copied tunes from the late 1940's
up to the 1970's. Many I had long forgotten about. It's fun sometimes
to plug the hard drive into my computer and I'll end up finding songs I
haven't heard in years.

If you are ever looking for a particular song and can't find it anywhere
give me a shout. There's a good chance it's on the hard drive even if
it was the "B" side of a single that no one remembers.

Interesting gun. I don't have one...
 

On Sun, 20 Dec 2015 18:38:02 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

wrote:
On Sun, 20 Dec 2015 17:43:26 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 12/20/15 5:17 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 20 Dec 2015 16:55:49 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 20 Dec 2015 15:52:30 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Even when you download iTunes
and install on a Windows based computer it takes forever. That was the
first thing I noticed on the iMac when updating the OS. Come to think
of it, even the OS revisions for the iPad take a long time.

===

That's because the first thing that iTunes does is lay claim to all of
your music files, rename them, and restructure your music directories.
It took me a week to get everything back to the way I wanted it.

I spent a lot of time trying to undo all that on mine. Never did get it all undone.
The money I have left in the i-tunes account will be there forever.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


Improperly removing a complex software package often leaves vestiges in
directories you don't even know exist. Windows is well-known for this,
even when you use the remove software facility.

That is when you need to understand REGEDIT.

It is cleaning the latrine with a toothbrush but it works.

It can also overdo the cleaning and require a reinstall on windoze

Not really, there is system restore or dumping in a recent image but
the operative word was " understand".
That is the thing that is missing in this "click" and "swipe" world.

Interesting gun. I don't have one...
 

On Sun, 20 Dec 2015 18:42:31 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 12/20/2015 6:32 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 20 Dec 2015 17:13:45 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/20/2015 4:55 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 20 Dec 2015 15:52:30 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Even when you download iTunes
and install on a Windows based computer it takes forever. That was the
first thing I noticed on the iMac when updating the OS. Come to think
of it, even the OS revisions for the iPad take a long time.

===

That's because the first thing that iTunes does is lay claim to all of
your music files, rename them, and restructure your music directories.
It took me a week to get everything back to the way I wanted it.



You are right. I had forgotten that. I deleted iTunes from this and my
previous Vista computer because I got tired of doing everything to do
with music files the "Apple" way. Much better saving the files where I
want them, not where Apple thinks they should be.


You can put the music files wherever you want. Mine reside on my server, a
non-apple product, and are accessible via all our devices, via hardwire, wi
fi or via data sources off the premises.

AKA avoiding Apple when you can


That was my conclusion. I tried using iTunes for my music files but
found it to be convoluted and way too complex to use. I stored the
music in folders I created and organized instead. I kept iTunes on all
the computers (the Vista laptop and this Win 7) while I had the iMac
and was trying to get used to it. When I got rid of the iMac I also got
rid of iTunes.

I remember once that iTunes automatically started changing mp3
extensions to mp4 which ****ed me off. The older Vista computer
couldn't read mp4 so, in order to send a file via the wifi network from
the iMac to the Vista, I had to manually change the extension back to
mp3. Don't know why Apple decided to make that change. It started
after one of the many iTunes "updates".

There are plenty of very capable tools in windows and even DOS. Why
would you complicate anything as simple as a bunch of "files"?
I steal them, (buy from the worthy), I manage them and I listen to
them on plenty of platforms but they are just shared files on an
antique PC running XP.

Interesting gun. I don't have one...
 

On Sun, 20 Dec 2015 19:16:21 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 12/20/2015 6:55 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/20/2015 6:32 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 20 Dec 2015 17:13:45 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/20/2015 4:55 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 20 Dec 2015 15:52:30 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Even when you download iTunes
and install on a Windows based computer it takes forever. That was the
first thing I noticed on the iMac when updating the OS. Come to think
of it, even the OS revisions for the iPad take a long time.

===

That's because the first thing that iTunes does is lay claim to all of
your music files, rename them, and restructure your music directories.
It took me a week to get everything back to the way I wanted it.



You are right. I had forgotten that. I deleted iTunes from this and my
previous Vista computer because I got tired of doing everything to do
with music files the "Apple" way. Much better saving the files where I
want them, not where Apple thinks they should be.


You can put the music files wherever you want. Mine reside on my server, a
non-apple product, and are accessible via all our devices, via hardwire, wi
fi or via data sources off the premises.

AKA avoiding Apple when you can


That was my conclusion. I tried using iTunes for my music files but
found it to be convoluted and way too complex to use. I stored the
music in folders I created and organized instead. I kept iTunes on all
the computers (the Vista laptop and this Win 7) while I had the iMac
and was trying to get used to it. When I got rid of the iMac I also got
rid of iTunes.

I remember once that iTunes automatically started changing mp3
extensions to mp4 which ****ed me off. The older Vista computer
couldn't read mp4 so, in order to send a file via the wifi network from
the iMac to the Vista, I had to manually change the extension back to
mp3. Don't know why Apple decided to make that change. It started
after one of the many iTunes "updates".


Yeah, it was really difficult. I set up a directory on my sever and pointed
itunes at it. Whew! ? guess some would find that . . . Tough.


I didn't say it was "tough". I said it ****ed me off because I didn't
want them stored as mp4 files. I saved them as mp3 but iTunes decided
they should be mp4. There was no notice of the change whenever they
decided to start doing this. I discovered by accident that right
clicking on the file allowed me to transfer it via the network as a mp3
rather than an mp4. Another one of those "intuitive" Apple things that
you should just *know*, I guess.


The pirate police.

I guess you know what is in the HDMI protocol?

Interesting gun. I don't have one...
 

On Sun, 20 Dec 2015 19:38:12 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

MP3 Encoder: Use if you plan to listen to music in apps other than
iTunes, or on MP3 players other than iPod, iPhone, or iPad.

It is all right here.
This was buried in a dozen other choices like no cult member would
ever need this.

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On Sun, 20 Dec 2015 20:20:08 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


If you are ever looking for a particular song and can't find it anywhere
give me a shout. There's a good chance it's on the hard drive even if
it was the "B" side of a single that no one remembers.

I have a bunch too. I assume between us we have them all ;-)

Bessie Smith, anyone?

Interesting gun. I don't have one...
 

On 12/20/2015 7:24 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/20/2015 6:55 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/20/2015 6:32 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 20 Dec 2015 17:13:45 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/20/2015 4:55 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 20 Dec 2015 15:52:30 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Even when you download iTunes
and install on a Windows based computer it takes forever. That was the
first thing I noticed on the iMac when updating the OS. Come to think
of it, even the OS revisions for the iPad take a long time.

===

That's because the first thing that iTunes does is lay claim to all of
your music files, rename them, and restructure your music directories.
It took me a week to get everything back to the way I wanted it.



You are right. I had forgotten that. I deleted iTunes from this and my
previous Vista computer because I got tired of doing everything to do
with music files the "Apple" way. Much better saving the files where I
want them, not where Apple thinks they should be.


You can put the music files wherever you want. Mine reside on my server, a
non-apple product, and are accessible via all our devices, via hardwire, wi
fi or via data sources off the premises.

AKA avoiding Apple when you can


That was my conclusion. I tried using iTunes for my music files but
found it to be convoluted and way too complex to use. I stored the
music in folders I created and organized instead. I kept iTunes on all
the computers (the Vista laptop and this Win 7) while I had the iMac
and was trying to get used to it. When I got rid of the iMac I also got
rid of iTunes.

I remember once that iTunes automatically started changing mp3
extensions to mp4 which ****ed me off. The older Vista computer
couldn't read mp4 so, in order to send a file via the wifi network from
the iMac to the Vista, I had to manually change the extension back to
mp3. Don't know why Apple decided to make that change. It started
after one of the many iTunes "updates".


Yeah, it was really difficult. I set up a directory on my sever and pointed
itunes at it. Whew! 😅 guess some would find that . . . Tough.


I didn't say it was "tough". I said it ****ed me off because I didn't
want them stored as mp4 files. I saved them as mp3 but iTunes decided
they should be mp4. There was no notice of the change whenever they
decided to start doing this. I discovered by accident that right
clicking on the file allowed me to transfer it via the network as a mp3
rather than an mp4. Another one of those "intuitive" Apple things that
you should just *know*, I guess.



I make oldies mp3s CDS from iTunes for a buddy. Easy.


I'd like a copy of Glenn Miller's greatest hits if you don't mind.

Interesting gun. I don't have one...
 

On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 14:33:01 -0500, Justan Olphart
wrote:


I'd like a copy of Glenn Miller's greatest hits if you don't mind.

I bet you can get all you want on alt.binaries,sounds.mp3.1940s

Interesting gun. I don't have one...
 

On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 14:33:01 -0500, Justan Olphart
wrote:

I'd like a copy of Glenn Miller's greatest hits if you don't mind.

I just looked I can send you a CD with Glenn Miller till you puke
Email me an address

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On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 14:34:32 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 14:33:01 -0500, Justan Olphart
wrote:


I'd like a copy of Glenn Miller's greatest hits if you don't mind.

I bet you can get all you want on alt.binaries,sounds.mp3.1940s

You just laid yourself wide open, young man!
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

Interesting gun. I don't have one...
 

On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 15:01:21 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 14:34:32 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 14:33:01 -0500, Justan Olphart
wrote:


I'd like a copy of Glenn Miller's greatest hits if you don't mind.

I bet you can get all you want on alt.binaries,sounds.mp3.1940s

You just laid yourself wide open, young man!

Why is that?

Interesting gun. I don't have one...
 

On 12/22/2015 2:56 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 14:33:01 -0500, Justan Olphart
wrote:

I'd like a copy of Glenn Miller's greatest hits if you don't mind.

I just looked I can send you a CD with Glenn Miller till you puke
Email me an address

I was just kidding.

Interesting gun. I don't have one...
 

On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 16:04:46 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 15:01:21 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 14:34:32 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 14:33:01 -0500, Justan Olphart
wrote:


I'd like a copy of Glenn Miller's greatest hits if you don't mind.

I bet you can get all you want on alt.binaries,sounds.mp3.1940s

You just laid yourself wide open, young man!

Why is that?

There are folks here who would jump all over one who downloads a 'bootleg' song!

(Don't ask how I know that.)
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

Interesting gun. I don't have one...
 

On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 16:05:06 -0500, Justan Olphart
wrote:

On 12/22/2015 2:56 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 14:33:01 -0500, Justan Olphart
wrote:

I'd like a copy of Glenn Miller's greatest hits if you don't mind.

I just looked I can send you a CD with Glenn Miller till you puke
Email me an address

I was just kidding.

Gee and I just downloaded a half a gig of Glenn Miller for you ;-)

(along with a bunch of other WWII era hits)

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On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 16:28:32 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 16:05:06 -0500, Justan Olphart
wrote:

On 12/22/2015 2:56 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 14:33:01 -0500, Justan Olphart
wrote:

I'd like a copy of Glenn Miller's greatest hits if you don't mind.

I just looked I can send you a CD with Glenn Miller till you puke
Email me an address

I was just kidding.

Gee and I just downloaded a half a gig of Glenn Miller for you ;-)

(along with a bunch of other WWII era hits)

Can you send it back and get your card refunded?
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On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 16:28:32 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 16:05:06 -0500, Justan Olphart
wrote:

On 12/22/2015 2:56 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 14:33:01 -0500, Justan Olphart
wrote:

I'd like a copy of Glenn Miller's greatest hits if you don't mind.

I just looked I can send you a CD with Glenn Miller till you puke
Email me an address

I was just kidding.

Gee and I just downloaded a half a gig of Glenn Miller for you ;-)

(along with a bunch of other WWII era hits)

===

Songs from his youth. :-)

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On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 16:13:12 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 16:04:46 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 15:01:21 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 14:34:32 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 14:33:01 -0500, Justan Olphart
wrote:


I'd like a copy of Glenn Miller's greatest hits if you don't mind.

I bet you can get all you want on alt.binaries,sounds.mp3.1940s

You just laid yourself wide open, young man!

Why is that?

There are folks here who would jump all over one who downloads a 'bootleg' song!

(Don't ask how I know that.)

Jump away.
If Glenn shows up, I will give him a penny or whatever his royalty was
on his songs in 1944.

Call it my act of civil disobedience.
I don't think it is right that the patent on a product that changes
the world expires in 17 years but Rick Dees will get a royalty on
"Disco Duck" for 75 years or more.
It is particularly frustrating when you are talking about old Motown
artists who died in poverty and the record company fat cats still get
a quarter every time their songs are played.

If this is a new artist, I buy it from Amazon. If it is an old crook
like Jimmy Buffet, I steal it. That prick still owes me for all of
those cheap cassettes I bought that wadded up in a couple weeks and a
bottle of 12 year old scotch his thugs made me pour out at Wolf Trap.

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On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 17:07:23 -0500, wrote:

I bought that wadded up in a couple weeks and a
bottle of 12 year old scotch his thugs made me pour out at Wolf Trap.

===

There must be more to that story. :-)

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On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 18:11:26 -0500,
wrote:

On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 17:07:23 -0500, wrote:

I bought that wadded up in a couple weeks and a
bottle of 12 year old scotch his thugs made me pour out at Wolf Trap.

===

There must be more to that story. :-)

Wolf trap was an outdoor venue that always allowed you to bring a
cooler. It was usually foo foo folks with wine and cheese but when
Buffett did his show there, no coolers. They let me have my little
picnic jug but I had to dump it out on the grass.
I still have the jug, with the sticker on it.
I didn't save all of the junked tapes.

There are a few of his songs that I have bought a half dozen times
already so I don't feel bad about skimming them off of an MP3 site.
It is a little funny but when they were selling little bits of
plastic, it was all about the plastic. There was no talk about buying
the rights to the music and no credit for defective bits of plastic.
A new copy costs exactly the same as the bad one, even if you trade it
in.
Now that we don't need the plastic, it is all about the rights to the
music but didn't I get the rights to that music when I bought the
vinyl, the 8 track, the cassette AND the CD? Even Bill Gates, the king
of intellectual property would replace defective or obsolete media for
free or later a small copy/media charge.

Screw those *******s. All of them.

I have no problems paying for new content from struggling artists but
those old farts who have sold me that song two or three times already
can kiss my ass.

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On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 19:16:42 -0500, wrote:

Now that we don't need the plastic, it is all about the rights to the
music but didn't I get the rights to that music when I bought the
vinyl, the 8 track, the cassette AND the CD? Even Bill Gates, the king
of intellectual property would replace defective or obsolete media for
free or later a small copy/media charge.

Screw those *******s. All of them.

I have no problems paying for new content from struggling artists but
those old farts who have sold me that song two or three times already
can kiss my ass.

===

Yes. The RIAA is a bunch of pricks living in the 20th century and
still trying to make that technology fly.

Interesting gun. I don't have one...
 

On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 17:07:23 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 16:13:12 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 16:04:46 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 15:01:21 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 14:34:32 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 14:33:01 -0500, Justan Olphart
wrote:


I'd like a copy of Glenn Miller's greatest hits if you don't mind.

I bet you can get all you want on alt.binaries,sounds.mp3.1940s

You just laid yourself wide open, young man!

Why is that?

There are folks here who would jump all over one who downloads a 'bootleg' song!

(Don't ask how I know that.)

Jump away.
If Glenn shows up, I will give him a penny or whatever his royalty was
on his songs in 1944.

Call it my act of civil disobedience.
I don't think it is right that the patent on a product that changes
the world expires in 17 years but Rick Dees will get a royalty on
"Disco Duck" for 75 years or more.
It is particularly frustrating when you are talking about old Motown
artists who died in poverty and the record company fat cats still get
a quarter every time their songs are played.

If this is a new artist, I buy it from Amazon. If it is an old crook
like Jimmy Buffet, I steal it. That prick still owes me for all of
those cheap cassettes I bought that wadded up in a couple weeks and a
bottle of 12 year old scotch his thugs made me pour out at Wolf Trap.

Damn, that last makes any amount of bootlegging his songs a legitimate venture!
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

Interesting gun. I don't have one...
 

On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 19:16:42 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 18:11:26 -0500,
wrote:

On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 17:07:23 -0500, wrote:

I bought that wadded up in a couple weeks and a
bottle of 12 year old scotch his thugs made me pour out at Wolf Trap.

===

There must be more to that story. :-)

Wolf trap was an outdoor venue that always allowed you to bring a
cooler. It was usually foo foo folks with wine and cheese but when
Buffett did his show there, no coolers. They let me have my little
picnic jug but I had to dump it out on the grass.
I still have the jug, with the sticker on it.
I didn't save all of the junked tapes.

There are a few of his songs that I have bought a half dozen times
already so I don't feel bad about skimming them off of an MP3 site.
It is a little funny but when they were selling little bits of
plastic, it was all about the plastic. There was no talk about buying
the rights to the music and no credit for defective bits of plastic.
A new copy costs exactly the same as the bad one, even if you trade it
in.
Now that we don't need the plastic, it is all about the rights to the
music but didn't I get the rights to that music when I bought the
vinyl, the 8 track, the cassette AND the CD? Even Bill Gates, the king
of intellectual property would replace defective or obsolete media for
free or later a small copy/media charge.

Screw those *******s. All of them.

I have no problems paying for new content from struggling artists but
those old farts who have sold me that song two or three times already
can kiss my ass.

I have to admit to feeling the same way about Amazon charging 12.95 to download a
kindle book. Hell, the paperback is cheaper, and it had printing costs. Let's
see...alt.binaries.kindle?
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

Interesting gun. I don't have one...
 

On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 20:01:07 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 19:16:42 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 18:11:26 -0500,
wrote:

On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 17:07:23 -0500, wrote:

I bought that wadded up in a couple weeks and a
bottle of 12 year old scotch his thugs made me pour out at Wolf Trap.

===

There must be more to that story. :-)

Wolf trap was an outdoor venue that always allowed you to bring a
cooler. It was usually foo foo folks with wine and cheese but when
Buffett did his show there, no coolers. They let me have my little
picnic jug but I had to dump it out on the grass.
I still have the jug, with the sticker on it.
I didn't save all of the junked tapes.

There are a few of his songs that I have bought a half dozen times
already so I don't feel bad about skimming them off of an MP3 site.
It is a little funny but when they were selling little bits of
plastic, it was all about the plastic. There was no talk about buying
the rights to the music and no credit for defective bits of plastic.
A new copy costs exactly the same as the bad one, even if you trade it
in.
Now that we don't need the plastic, it is all about the rights to the
music but didn't I get the rights to that music when I bought the
vinyl, the 8 track, the cassette AND the CD? Even Bill Gates, the king
of intellectual property would replace defective or obsolete media for
free or later a small copy/media charge.

Screw those *******s. All of them.

I have no problems paying for new content from struggling artists but
those old farts who have sold me that song two or three times already
can kiss my ass.

I have to admit to feeling the same way about Amazon charging 12.95 to download a
kindle book. Hell, the paperback is cheaper, and it had printing costs. Let's
see...alt.binaries.kindle?

I don't have a E reader but I would not be shocked if it is there.
I do find plenty of technical books online including a bunch of
military manuals.
One if the first thing I did when I got my M1A was download the
armorer's manual for the M14. I assume I paid for that in my taxes
tho.

My wife gets a whole lot of free books from Amazon and some for a buck
or two. She can also "lend" them to other people. They have a gang of
book swappers. I think only one can be active at a time tho. (not sure
about how any of this works)
This is all on an android reader.

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On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 20:01:07 -0500, John H.
wrote:

see...alt.binaries.kindle?
--
Yes

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On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 20:01:07 -0500, John H.
wrote:

see...alt.binaries.kindle?
--

I looked and they seem to be MOBI files. My guess is the DRM bit is
trimmed off.

Interesting gun. I don't have one...
 

On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 21:16:23 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 20:01:07 -0500, John H.
wrote:

see...alt.binaries.kindle?
--

I looked and they seem to be MOBI files. My guess is the DRM bit is
trimmed off.

..mobi is what the kindle uses.
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