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On Wednesday, December 16, 2015 at 7:17:06 AM UTC-8, wrote:
The beaches on the East Coast of Florida are littered with stuff coming up from El Faro. This is a pound of coffee my son in law came up with when he was visiting his folks in Melbourne http://gfretwell.com/ftp/El%20Faro%20flotsam.jpg In spite of a trip up from a couple miles down, it still seems to be intact Nothing to do with the El Faro, Just another Tote maritime fiasco. BTW do you really think those packages would look like they just flew off the shelf after being 18.000' underwater? |
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On Fri, 18 Dec 2015 03:19:01 -0800 (PST), wrote:
On Wednesday, December 16, 2015 at 7:17:06 AM UTC-8, wrote: The beaches on the East Coast of Florida are littered with stuff coming up from El Faro. This is a pound of coffee my son in law came up with when he was visiting his folks in Melbourne http://gfretwell.com/ftp/El%20Faro%20flotsam.jpg In spite of a trip up from a couple miles down, it still seems to be intact Nothing to do with the El Faro, Just another Tote maritime fiasco. BTW do you really think those packages would look like they just flew off the shelf after being 18.000' underwater? The containers actually floated free while the ship was breaking up. Our news was talking about it the other day. I agree, if this was really 3 miles down, it would be about the size of a sugar cube. |
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On Fri, 18 Dec 2015 06:38:00 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: On 12/18/2015 6:19 AM, wrote: On Wednesday, December 16, 2015 at 7:17:06 AM UTC-8, wrote: The beaches on the East Coast of Florida are littered with stuff coming up from El Faro. This is a pound of coffee my son in law came up with when he was visiting his folks in Melbourne http://gfretwell.com/ftp/El%20Faro%20flotsam.jpg In spite of a trip up from a couple miles down, it still seems to be intact Nothing to do with the El Faro, Just another Tote maritime fiasco. BTW do you really think those packages would look like they just flew off the shelf after being 18.000' underwater? Probably "decaf" now. Decaffeinating coffee and tea was accidentally discovered when some chests containing tea were swept overboard from a freighter during a storm. The chests were recovered, the tea leaves were dried and used but people who drank it noticed they didn't get the "buzz" they usually got. These vacuum packs should be pretty much unaffected. As I said in the other note, they are saying these containers broke up on or pretty near the surface. |
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On Fri, 18 Dec 2015 03:19:01 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Wednesday, December 16, 2015 at 7:17:06 AM UTC-8, wrote: The beaches on the East Coast of Florida are littered with stuff coming up from El Faro. This is a pound of coffee my son in law came up with when he was visiting his folks in Melbourne http://gfretwell.com/ftp/El%20Faro%20flotsam.jpg In spite of a trip up from a couple miles down, it still seems to be intact Nothing to do with the El Faro, Just another Tote maritime fiasco. BTW do you really think those packages would look like they just flew off the shelf after being 18.000' underwater? The containers actually floated free while the ship was breaking up. Our news was talking about it the other day. I agree, if this was really 3 miles down, it would be about the size of a sugar cube. Maybe not. They are vacuum packed. |
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On Fri, 18 Dec 2015 08:19:02 -0800, Califbill billnews wrote:
wrote: On Fri, 18 Dec 2015 03:19:01 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Wednesday, December 16, 2015 at 7:17:06 AM UTC-8, wrote: The beaches on the East Coast of Florida are littered with stuff coming up from El Faro. This is a pound of coffee my son in law came up with when he was visiting his folks in Melbourne http://gfretwell.com/ftp/El%20Faro%20flotsam.jpg In spite of a trip up from a couple miles down, it still seems to be intact Nothing to do with the El Faro, Just another Tote maritime fiasco. BTW do you really think those packages would look like they just flew off the shelf after being 18.000' underwater? The containers actually floated free while the ship was breaking up. Our news was talking about it the other day. I agree, if this was really 3 miles down, it would be about the size of a sugar cube. Maybe not. They are vacuum packed. The "vacuum" would only exert 14.7 PSI on the contents if it was perfect and it is far from perfect. At 3 miles down it would be more like 7000 PSI. |
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On 12/18/2015 12:01 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 18 Dec 2015 08:19:02 -0800, Califbill billnews wrote: wrote: On Fri, 18 Dec 2015 03:19:01 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Wednesday, December 16, 2015 at 7:17:06 AM UTC-8, wrote: The beaches on the East Coast of Florida are littered with stuff coming up from El Faro. This is a pound of coffee my son in law came up with when he was visiting his folks in Melbourne http://gfretwell.com/ftp/El%20Faro%20flotsam.jpg In spite of a trip up from a couple miles down, it still seems to be intact Nothing to do with the El Faro, Just another Tote maritime fiasco. BTW do you really think those packages would look like they just flew off the shelf after being 18.000' underwater? The containers actually floated free while the ship was breaking up. Our news was talking about it the other day. I agree, if this was really 3 miles down, it would be about the size of a sugar cube. Maybe not. They are vacuum packed. The "vacuum" would only exert 14.7 PSI on the contents if it was perfect and it is far from perfect. At 3 miles down it would be more like 7000 PSI. 14.7 should be enough to collapse all the air molecules at sea level. The vaccum expert, and I mean expert should be along shortly to tell you the whole story. |
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On Fri, 18 Dec 2015 12:08:05 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 12/18/2015 12:01 PM, wrote: On Fri, 18 Dec 2015 08:19:02 -0800, Califbill billnews wrote: wrote: On Fri, 18 Dec 2015 03:19:01 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Wednesday, December 16, 2015 at 7:17:06 AM UTC-8, wrote: The beaches on the East Coast of Florida are littered with stuff coming up from El Faro. This is a pound of coffee my son in law came up with when he was visiting his folks in Melbourne http://gfretwell.com/ftp/El%20Faro%20flotsam.jpg In spite of a trip up from a couple miles down, it still seems to be intact Nothing to do with the El Faro, Just another Tote maritime fiasco. BTW do you really think those packages would look like they just flew off the shelf after being 18.000' underwater? The containers actually floated free while the ship was breaking up. Our news was talking about it the other day. I agree, if this was really 3 miles down, it would be about the size of a sugar cube. Maybe not. They are vacuum packed. The "vacuum" would only exert 14.7 PSI on the contents if it was perfect and it is far from perfect. At 3 miles down it would be more like 7000 PSI. 14.7 should be enough to collapse all the air molecules at sea level. The vaccum expert, and I mean expert should be along shortly to tell you the whole story. I like my Hoover upright. -- Ban idiots, not guns! |
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On Fri, 18 Dec 2015 13:02:44 -0500, John H.
wrote: On Fri, 18 Dec 2015 12:08:05 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote: On 12/18/2015 12:01 PM, wrote: On Fri, 18 Dec 2015 08:19:02 -0800, Califbill billnews wrote: wrote: On Fri, 18 Dec 2015 03:19:01 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Wednesday, December 16, 2015 at 7:17:06 AM UTC-8, wrote: The beaches on the East Coast of Florida are littered with stuff coming up from El Faro. This is a pound of coffee my son in law came up with when he was visiting his folks in Melbourne http://gfretwell.com/ftp/El%20Faro%20flotsam.jpg In spite of a trip up from a couple miles down, it still seems to be intact Nothing to do with the El Faro, Just another Tote maritime fiasco. BTW do you really think those packages would look like they just flew off the shelf after being 18.000' underwater? The containers actually floated free while the ship was breaking up. Our news was talking about it the other day. I agree, if this was really 3 miles down, it would be about the size of a sugar cube. Maybe not. They are vacuum packed. The "vacuum" would only exert 14.7 PSI on the contents if it was perfect and it is far from perfect. At 3 miles down it would be more like 7000 PSI. 14.7 should be enough to collapse all the air molecules at sea level. The vaccum expert, and I mean expert should be along shortly to tell you the whole story. I like my Hoover upright. === Insert appropriate "really sucks" joke he _________________________ |
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On Fri, 18 Dec 2015 13:26:10 -0500, wrote:
On Fri, 18 Dec 2015 13:02:44 -0500, John H. wrote: On Fri, 18 Dec 2015 12:08:05 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote: On 12/18/2015 12:01 PM, wrote: On Fri, 18 Dec 2015 08:19:02 -0800, Califbill billnews wrote: wrote: On Fri, 18 Dec 2015 03:19:01 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Wednesday, December 16, 2015 at 7:17:06 AM UTC-8, wrote: The beaches on the East Coast of Florida are littered with stuff coming up from El Faro. This is a pound of coffee my son in law came up with when he was visiting his folks in Melbourne http://gfretwell.com/ftp/El%20Faro%20flotsam.jpg In spite of a trip up from a couple miles down, it still seems to be intact Nothing to do with the El Faro, Just another Tote maritime fiasco. BTW do you really think those packages would look like they just flew off the shelf after being 18.000' underwater? The containers actually floated free while the ship was breaking up. Our news was talking about it the other day. I agree, if this was really 3 miles down, it would be about the size of a sugar cube. Maybe not. They are vacuum packed. The "vacuum" would only exert 14.7 PSI on the contents if it was perfect and it is far from perfect. At 3 miles down it would be more like 7000 PSI. 14.7 should be enough to collapse all the air molecules at sea level. The vaccum expert, and I mean expert should be along shortly to tell you the whole story. I like my Hoover upright. === Insert appropriate "really sucks" joke he _________________________ Hey, at least I stayed on topic! -- Ban idiots, not guns! |
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