98 Years ago...
 

wrote:
On Mon, 7 Dec 2015 12:42:12 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

I remember one day while in port a bunch of "yardbirds" came aboard
and installed the weirdest looking antenna I had ever seen on the ship.
It looked like something out of a Buck Rodgers' movie. I later found
out it was an antenna for a new-fangled system called "Satellite
Navigation" ... an early military GPS system.


They did the software development for GPS at IBM Gaithersburg in the
System Center. (demo area for the sales people)
This was just another water cooled to anyone who looked but they were
working on a project that was classified at the time. The only obvious
"security" was a blue velvet rope around the console station. I assume
the real work was being done somewhere else in the complex on
terminals.


One of my screw ups was friends went to work down the street from the
company I was working for. Was not real enthused at the time about my
employer, but did not go with them. Trimble Navigation. Would have been a
very profitable gig.

98 Years ago...
 

On 12/7/2015 2:28 PM, Califbill wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/7/2015 10:25 AM, Justan Ohlphart wrote:
Keyser Söze Wrote in message:
On 12/6/15 1:00 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 6 Dec 2015 12:23:05 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 12/6/15 12:15 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/6/2015 11:19 AM, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 12/6/2015 9:53 AM, True North wrote:
Recent delivery of Christmas tree to Boston and it's lighting reminds
us of the horrific events on Dec 06 1917. People of Nova Scotia will
always be grateful to the kind citizens of Mass. for their speedy
medical help....arriving by train just days after the disaster. Who
knows how many more would have died if not for the desperately needed
help.
https://www.facebook.com/GlobalNews/...0859946961771/


Having trouble playing this video down here in the US.


Must be due to your Win 10 upgrade. Plays fine on Win 7. :-)


Plays fine down here in the USA on my iMac and Samsung Android Tablet.

Even works on my prehistoric XP anachronism.


Shows up on that teletype screen, eh? :)


Teletype screen?
Back in the day we used a teletypewriter for output with a paper
tape reader for input.
Hobbyists used Comodore 64,Radio Shack, and other toys to access
bulletin board systems and do rudimental computing. Greg seems to
have a pretty good recollection of all that stuff. He would be a
good resource if you wanted to find out about early day
computing.


Before I converted to "ET" in the Navy I was an "RM" for two years and
was sent to Teletype Repair "C" school in Norfolk to learn how to
completely disassemble, repair, reassemble, adjust and maintain Mod 28
Teletype machines. There were two versions on ships and shore stations
at that time. One was just the printer section for receiving messages.
The other was the full console with the keyboard and tape reader for
sending messages. Don't remember much about them other than they had a
bunch of mechanical clutches operated by a main shaft that had to be
precisely adjusted. The Mod 28 was originally designed to run at 60
words per minute (a "word" being five characters) but they had been
upgraded to run at a blistering 100 words per minute. They were 8 bit
machines including a "start bit" and a "stop bit".

Upon graduation from the school the students traditionally received a
card proclaiming that you were now a "Doctor of Teletype Technology".
I still have mine.

Archaic technology now-a-days but it was a digital format and a
predecessor to computers. So was Morse Code, for that matter.





NCR used a teletype printer on one Serbs of mainframes for the console
output. Forget which model, but was a disaster as a console printer. Was
designed to turn on and print an incoming message, then turned off the
motor. Very light duty printer. Our use turned on the motor and the shaft
never stopped running. Those oil title bushings would eventually cut the
shaft so there was a great play in the bearings. Was a pain in the ass to
change the shaft and align all the cams.


All I remember is a whole bunch of little mechanical cams that acted as
clutches. Each was set with feeler gauges. Oh, and a big, red
"bakelite" main drive gear for the shaft. It was supposed to
self-destruct in the event of a jam or other catastrophic failure on the
main shaft to prevent further damage. All in all, they were reliable.
They ran 24/7.

98 Years ago...
 

On Mon, 7 Dec 2015 11:28:24 -0800, Califbill billnews wrote:



NCR used a teletype printer on one Serbs of mainframes for the console
output. Forget which model, but was a disaster as a console printer. Was
designed to turn on and print an incoming message, then turned off the
motor. Very light duty printer. Our use turned on the motor and the shaft
never stopped running. Those oil title bushings would eventually cut the
shaft so there was a great play in the bearings. Was a pain in the ass to
change the shaft and align all the cams.

IBM broke the printing part off the back off of a Selectric
typewriter, beefed it up a bit and used it as a console printer for
close to a decade before they figured out the wire matrix printers.

They were not made to print that much either. Everyone learned how to
work on them ... some better than others.

98 Years ago...
 

John H. wrote:
On Monday, December 7, 2015 at 8:56:45 AM UTC-5, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 12/7/15 8:44 AM, John H. wrote:
On Monday, December 7, 2015 at 8:28:18 AM UTC-5, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 12/7/15 8:18 AM, John H. wrote:
On Monday, December 7, 2015 at 8:08:01 AM UTC-5, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 12/7/15 7:18 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sunday, December 6, 2015 at 9:43:33 PM UTC-5, True North wrote:
On Sunday, 6 December 2015 12:19:15 UTC-4, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 12/6/2015 9:53 AM, True North wrote:
Recent delivery of Christmas tree to Boston and it's lighting reminds us of the horrific events on Dec 06 1917. People of Nova Scotia will always be grateful to the kind citizens of Mass. for their speedy medical help....arriving by train just days after the disaster. Who knows how many more would have died if not for the desperately needed help.
https://www.facebook.com/GlobalNews/...0859946961771/

Having trouble playing this video down here in the US.

Try this Stinky...it's in 'merican.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/almanac-...veled-halifax/
Why ruin a nice thread with name calling, Don?

Why do *you* engage in name-calling here so frequently, and then feel it
is ok for you to castigate others for the same behavior in which you
engage? And if you are going to call out others for name-calling, why
don't you call out your buddies, like FlaJim, for example, when they do it?

You might consider putting up in terms of your behavior here or shutting
up about the behavior of others.
I saw none in this sociable thread until your little buddy started it. I'm willing to stop, are you?


I was discussing your behavior in this newsgroup *generally* - not the
specific thread.
We are in this thread.

You did not answer my question. Are you willing to stop name-calling?

In this thread specifically or in this discussion group?
I'll watch your example in this discussion group before I make an
announcement.
In rec.boats. No need for watching. Are you willing to stop name-calling if I do. Simple yes or no answer. Then we can watch each other.


He's not a leader - he's a follower.

98 Years ago...
 

Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/7/2015 2:28 PM, Califbill wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/7/2015 10:25 AM, Justan Ohlphart wrote:
Keyser Söze Wrote in message:
On 12/6/15 1:00 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 6 Dec 2015 12:23:05 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 12/6/15 12:15 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/6/2015 11:19 AM, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 12/6/2015 9:53 AM, True North wrote:
Recent delivery of Christmas tree to Boston and it's lighting reminds
us of the horrific events on Dec 06 1917. People of Nova Scotia will
always be grateful to the kind citizens of Mass. for their speedy
medical help....arriving by train just days after the disaster. Who
knows how many more would have died if not for the desperately needed
help.
https://www.facebook.com/GlobalNews/...0859946961771/


Having trouble playing this video down here in the US.


Must be due to your Win 10 upgrade. Plays fine on Win 7. :-)


Plays fine down here in the USA on my iMac and Samsung Android Tablet.

Even works on my prehistoric XP anachronism.


Shows up on that teletype screen, eh? :)


Teletype screen?
Back in the day we used a teletypewriter for output with a paper
tape reader for input.
Hobbyists used Comodore 64,Radio Shack, and other toys to access
bulletin board systems and do rudimental computing. Greg seems to
have a pretty good recollection of all that stuff. He would be a
good resource if you wanted to find out about early day
computing.


Before I converted to "ET" in the Navy I was an "RM" for two years and
was sent to Teletype Repair "C" school in Norfolk to learn how to
completely disassemble, repair, reassemble, adjust and maintain Mod 28
Teletype machines. There were two versions on ships and shore stations
at that time. One was just the printer section for receiving messages.
The other was the full console with the keyboard and tape reader for
sending messages. Don't remember much about them other than they had a
bunch of mechanical clutches operated by a main shaft that had to be
precisely adjusted. The Mod 28 was originally designed to run at 60
words per minute (a "word" being five characters) but they had been
upgraded to run at a blistering 100 words per minute. They were 8 bit
machines including a "start bit" and a "stop bit".

Upon graduation from the school the students traditionally received a
card proclaiming that you were now a "Doctor of Teletype Technology".
I still have mine.

Archaic technology now-a-days but it was a digital format and a
predecessor to computers. So was Morse Code, for that matter.





NCR used a teletype printer on one Serbs of mainframes for the console
output. Forget which model, but was a disaster as a console printer. Was
designed to turn on and print an incoming message, then turned off the
motor. Very light duty printer. Our use turned on the motor and the shaft
never stopped running. Those oil title bushings would eventually cut the
shaft so there was a great play in the bearings. Was a pain in the ass to
change the shaft and align all the cams.


All I remember is a whole bunch of little mechanical cams that acted as
clutches. Each was set with feeler gauges. Oh, and a big, red
"bakelite" main drive gear for the shaft. It was supposed to
self-destruct in the event of a jam or other catastrophic failure on the
main shaft to prevent further damage. All in all, they were reliable.
They ran 24/7.




These were a light duty receive only unit. That was designed to turn on
for a message only. Not run 24/7.

98 Years ago...
 

wrote:
On Mon, 7 Dec 2015 11:28:24 -0800, Califbill billnews wrote:



NCR used a teletype printer on one Serbs of mainframes for the console
output. Forget which model, but was a disaster as a console printer. Was
designed to turn on and print an incoming message, then turned off the
motor. Very light duty printer. Our use turned on the motor and the shaft
never stopped running. Those oil title bushings would eventually cut the
shaft so there was a great play in the bearings. Was a pain in the ass to
change the shaft and align all the cams.

IBM broke the printing part off the back off of a Selectric
typewriter, beefed it up a bit and used it as a console printer for
close to a decade before they figured out the wire matrix printers.

They were not made to print that much either. Everyone learned how to
work on them ... some better than others.


We went to those on a later system. selectric B. Later dot matrix.

98 Years ago...
 

On Mon, 7 Dec 2015 20:04:35 -0500, Alex wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Monday, December 7, 2015 at 8:56:45 AM UTC-5, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 12/7/15 8:44 AM, John H. wrote:
On Monday, December 7, 2015 at 8:28:18 AM UTC-5, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 12/7/15 8:18 AM, John H. wrote:
On Monday, December 7, 2015 at 8:08:01 AM UTC-5, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 12/7/15 7:18 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sunday, December 6, 2015 at 9:43:33 PM UTC-5, True North wrote:
On Sunday, 6 December 2015 12:19:15 UTC-4, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 12/6/2015 9:53 AM, True North wrote:
Recent delivery of Christmas tree to Boston and it's lighting reminds us of the horrific events on Dec 06 1917. People of Nova Scotia will always be grateful to the kind citizens of Mass. for their speedy medical help....arriving by train just days after the disaster. Who knows how many more would have died if not for the desperately needed help.
https://www.facebook.com/GlobalNews/...0859946961771/

Having trouble playing this video down here in the US.

Try this Stinky...it's in 'merican.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/almanac-...veled-halifax/
Why ruin a nice thread with name calling, Don?

Why do *you* engage in name-calling here so frequently, and then feel it
is ok for you to castigate others for the same behavior in which you
engage? And if you are going to call out others for name-calling, why
don't you call out your buddies, like FlaJim, for example, when they do it?

You might consider putting up in terms of your behavior here or shutting
up about the behavior of others.
I saw none in this sociable thread until your little buddy started it. I'm willing to stop, are you?


I was discussing your behavior in this newsgroup *generally* - not the
specific thread.
We are in this thread.

You did not answer my question. Are you willing to stop name-calling?

In this thread specifically or in this discussion group?
I'll watch your example in this discussion group before I make an
announcement.
In rec.boats. No need for watching. Are you willing to stop name-calling if I do. Simple yes or no answer. Then we can watch each other.


He's not a leader - he's a follower.

===

Like a sheep?

98 Years ago...
 

wrote:
On Mon, 7 Dec 2015 20:04:35 -0500, Alex wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Monday, December 7, 2015 at 8:56:45 AM UTC-5, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 12/7/15 8:44 AM, John H. wrote:
On Monday, December 7, 2015 at 8:28:18 AM UTC-5, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 12/7/15 8:18 AM, John H. wrote:
On Monday, December 7, 2015 at 8:08:01 AM UTC-5, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 12/7/15 7:18 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sunday, December 6, 2015 at 9:43:33 PM UTC-5, True North wrote:
On Sunday, 6 December 2015 12:19:15 UTC-4, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 12/6/2015 9:53 AM, True North wrote:
Recent delivery of Christmas tree to Boston and it's lighting reminds us of the horrific events on Dec 06 1917. People of Nova Scotia will always be grateful to the kind citizens of Mass. for their speedy medical help....arriving by train just days after the disaster. Who knows how many more would have died if not for the desperately needed help.
https://www.facebook.com/GlobalNews/...0859946961771/

Having trouble playing this video down here in the US.
Try this Stinky...it's in 'merican.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/almanac-...veled-halifax/
Why ruin a nice thread with name calling, Don?

Why do *you* engage in name-calling here so frequently, and then feel it
is ok for you to castigate others for the same behavior in which you
engage? And if you are going to call out others for name-calling, why
don't you call out your buddies, like FlaJim, for example, when they do it?

You might consider putting up in terms of your behavior here or shutting
up about the behavior of others.
I saw none in this sociable thread until your little buddy started it. I'm willing to stop, are you?

I was discussing your behavior in this newsgroup *generally* - not the
specific thread.
We are in this thread.

You did not answer my question. Are you willing to stop name-calling?

In this thread specifically or in this discussion group?
I'll watch your example in this discussion group before I make an
announcement.
In rec.boats. No need for watching. Are you willing to stop name-calling if I do. Simple yes or no answer. Then we can watch each other.

He's not a leader - he's a follower.
===

Like a sheep?


Or lemming.