On 12/5/15 9:13 AM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 4 Dec 2015 20:23:51 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 12/4/15 5:26 PM, True North wrote:
Wow, JohnnyMop.
You're beside yourself with your race baiting.


He has been for a long time.

I can understand Don's stupidity, but surely you're intelligent enough to see that
the statistics came from your lovely administration's Department of Justice.

But, maybe not.

Or, maybe Holder, et al, are 'race baiters'.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


You're the race baiter, Herring.

On 12/4/2015 11:29 PM, Alex wrote:
True North wrote:
Wow, JohnnyMop.
You're beside yourself with your race baiting.


You are an idiot who can't understand facts.

Comprehention requires at least half a brain.

On Saturday, December 5, 2015 at 9:16:15 AM UTC-5, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 12/5/15 9:13 AM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 4 Dec 2015 20:23:51 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 12/4/15 5:26 PM, True North wrote:
Wow, JohnnyMop.
You're beside yourself with your race baiting.


He has been for a long time.

I can understand Don's stupidity, but surely you're intelligent enough to see that
the statistics came from your lovely administration's Department of Justice.

But, maybe not.

Or, maybe Holder, et al, are 'race baiters'.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


You're the race baiter, Herring.

Right up there with your DOJ, eh Krause? How about that name-calling...you ready to stop?

On 12/7/2015 11:21 AM, John H. wrote:
On Saturday, December 5, 2015 at 9:16:15 AM UTC-5, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 12/5/15 9:13 AM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 4 Dec 2015 20:23:51 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 12/4/15 5:26 PM, True North wrote:
Wow, JohnnyMop.
You're beside yourself with your race baiting.


He has been for a long time.

I can understand Don's stupidity, but surely you're intelligent enough to see that
the statistics came from your lovely administration's Department of Justice.

But, maybe not.

Or, maybe Holder, et al, are 'race baiters'.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


You're the race baiter, Herring.

Right up there with your DOJ, eh Krause? How about that name-calling...you ready to stop?



Hard to believe sometimes that rec.boats is populated with many 70
something year olds. I often listen to more meaningful discussions
while driving elderly folks with mental disabilities to and from an
adult day care center everyday. :-)

On 12/7/15 11:29 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/7/2015 11:21 AM, John H. wrote:
On Saturday, December 5, 2015 at 9:16:15 AM UTC-5, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 12/5/15 9:13 AM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 4 Dec 2015 20:23:51 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 12/4/15 5:26 PM, True North wrote:
Wow, JohnnyMop.
You're beside yourself with your race baiting.


He has been for a long time.

I can understand Don's stupidity, but surely you're intelligent
enough to see that
the statistics came from your lovely administration's Department of
Justice.

But, maybe not.

Or, maybe Holder, et al, are 'race baiters'.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


You're the race baiter, Herring.

Right up there with your DOJ, eh Krause? How about that
name-calling...you ready to stop?



Hard to believe sometimes that rec.boats is populated with many 70
something year olds. I often listen to more meaningful discussions
while driving elderly folks with mental disabilities to and from an
adult day care center everyday. :-)




Yeah, but those are just the voices in your head!

On 12/7/2015 11:45 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 12/7/15 11:29 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/7/2015 11:21 AM, John H. wrote:
On Saturday, December 5, 2015 at 9:16:15 AM UTC-5, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 12/5/15 9:13 AM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 4 Dec 2015 20:23:51 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 12/4/15 5:26 PM, True North wrote:
Wow, JohnnyMop.
You're beside yourself with your race baiting.


He has been for a long time.

I can understand Don's stupidity, but surely you're intelligent
enough to see that
the statistics came from your lovely administration's Department of
Justice.

But, maybe not.

Or, maybe Holder, et al, are 'race baiters'.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


You're the race baiter, Herring.

Right up there with your DOJ, eh Krause? How about that
name-calling...you ready to stop?



Hard to believe sometimes that rec.boats is populated with many 70
something year olds. I often listen to more meaningful discussions
while driving elderly folks with mental disabilities to and from an
adult day care center everyday. :-)




Yeah, but those are just the voices in your head!

They are a jovial group. The van I am driving right now holds 10
passengers and some of the discussions going on among them can get
funny as hell. No politics, no concerns about world events, etc.
They are more focused on what events and activities are scheduled that
day at the center or when the next "field trip" to the Dollar Store is
scheduled.

Many suffer from dementia or are mentally disabled due to a severe
stroke or something. A few have been mentally disabled all their lives.
One of my "customers" has full blown Alzheimer's and her family is
awaiting an opening in an assisted living or nursing home. She doesn't
always recognize her husband but for some reason she recognizes me every
morning when I go up to her door to escort her to the van.
She gives me a hug and then says, "Where are we going?"

This morning I had the radio on and "Jingle Bells" started to play.
All ten started singing... making up the words in some cases ... but
bellowing out the song.

Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/7/2015 11:45 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 12/7/15 11:29 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/7/2015 11:21 AM, John H. wrote:
On Saturday, December 5, 2015 at 9:16:15 AM UTC-5, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 12/5/15 9:13 AM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 4 Dec 2015 20:23:51 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 12/4/15 5:26 PM, True North wrote:
Wow, JohnnyMop.
You're beside yourself with your race baiting.


He has been for a long time.

I can understand Don's stupidity, but surely you're intelligent
enough to see that
the statistics came from your lovely administration's Department of
Justice.

But, maybe not.

Or, maybe Holder, et al, are 'race baiters'.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


You're the race baiter, Herring.

Right up there with your DOJ, eh Krause? How about that
name-calling...you ready to stop?



Hard to believe sometimes that rec.boats is populated with many 70
something year olds. I often listen to more meaningful discussions
while driving elderly folks with mental disabilities to and from an
adult day care center everyday. :-)




Yeah, but those are just the voices in your head!

They are a jovial group. The van I am driving right now holds 10
passengers and some of the discussions going on among them can get
funny as hell. No politics, no concerns about world events, etc.
They are more focused on what events and activities are scheduled that
day at the center or when the next "field trip" to the Dollar Store is
scheduled.

Many suffer from dementia or are mentally disabled due to a severe
stroke or something. A few have been mentally disabled all their lives.
One of my "customers" has full blown Alzheimer's and her family is
awaiting an opening in an assisted living or nursing home. She doesn't
always recognize her husband but for some reason she recognizes me every
morning when I go up to her door to escort her to the van.
She gives me a hug and then says, "Where are we going?"

This morning I had the radio on and "Jingle Bells" started to play.
All ten started singing... making up the words in some cases ... but
bellowing out the song.


You're a good soul! 😀

--
Sent from my iPhone 6+

On 12/7/2015 12:24 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/7/2015 11:45 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 12/7/15 11:29 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/7/2015 11:21 AM, John H. wrote:
On Saturday, December 5, 2015 at 9:16:15 AM UTC-5, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 12/5/15 9:13 AM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 4 Dec 2015 20:23:51 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 12/4/15 5:26 PM, True North wrote:
Wow, JohnnyMop.
You're beside yourself with your race baiting.


He has been for a long time.

I can understand Don's stupidity, but surely you're intelligent
enough to see that
the statistics came from your lovely administration's Department of
Justice.

But, maybe not.

Or, maybe Holder, et al, are 'race baiters'.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


You're the race baiter, Herring.

Right up there with your DOJ, eh Krause? How about that
name-calling...you ready to stop?



Hard to believe sometimes that rec.boats is populated with many 70
something year olds. I often listen to more meaningful discussions
while driving elderly folks with mental disabilities to and from an
adult day care center everyday. :-)




Yeah, but those are just the voices in your head!

They are a jovial group. The van I am driving right now holds 10
passengers and some of the discussions going on among them can get
funny as hell. No politics, no concerns about world events, etc.
They are more focused on what events and activities are scheduled that
day at the center or when the next "field trip" to the Dollar Store is
scheduled.

Many suffer from dementia or are mentally disabled due to a severe
stroke or something. A few have been mentally disabled all their lives.
One of my "customers" has full blown Alzheimer's and her family is
awaiting an opening in an assisted living or nursing home. She doesn't
always recognize her husband but for some reason she recognizes me every
morning when I go up to her door to escort her to the van.
She gives me a hug and then says, "Where are we going?"

This morning I had the radio on and "Jingle Bells" started to play.
All ten started singing... making up the words in some cases ... but
bellowing out the song.


You're a good soul! 😀


I don't know about my soul but it's better than sitting around twiddling
my thumbs, doing nothing. Scary though because I am
older than many of them.

The center gives the drivers some basic training in dealing with people
with dementia and Alzheimer's although I had some experience dealing
with Mrs.E's parents before they passed away. The woman that has full
blown Alzheimer's was a problem at first because she insisted on
unbuckling her seat belt and getting up every time I stopped at a stop
sign or red light. I was constantly having to go back and strap her
back in and try to persuade her (to no avail) to leave the seat belt on.
She can't remember what happened a minute ago. Finally, about a month
ago, I tried something else. I strapped her in, then put both her hands
on the shoulder belt and told her she was supposed to hold onto it until
I told her she could let it go. She hasn't taken the seat belts off or
left her seat since. She just needed a "job" to do and has a big smile
when I tell her "good job" when we get to the center or back to her house.

On Monday, December 7, 2015 at 1:08:43 PM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/7/2015 12:24 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/7/2015 11:45 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 12/7/15 11:29 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/7/2015 11:21 AM, John H. wrote:
On Saturday, December 5, 2015 at 9:16:15 AM UTC-5, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 12/5/15 9:13 AM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 4 Dec 2015 20:23:51 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 12/4/15 5:26 PM, True North wrote:
Wow, JohnnyMop.
You're beside yourself with your race baiting.


He has been for a long time.

I can understand Don's stupidity, but surely you're intelligent
enough to see that
the statistics came from your lovely administration's Department of
Justice.

But, maybe not.

Or, maybe Holder, et al, are 'race baiters'.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


You're the race baiter, Herring.

Right up there with your DOJ, eh Krause? How about that
name-calling...you ready to stop?



Hard to believe sometimes that rec.boats is populated with many 70
something year olds. I often listen to more meaningful discussions
while driving elderly folks with mental disabilities to and from an
adult day care center everyday. :-)




Yeah, but those are just the voices in your head!

They are a jovial group. The van I am driving right now holds 10
passengers and some of the discussions going on among them can get
funny as hell. No politics, no concerns about world events, etc.
They are more focused on what events and activities are scheduled that
day at the center or when the next "field trip" to the Dollar Store is
scheduled.

Many suffer from dementia or are mentally disabled due to a severe
stroke or something. A few have been mentally disabled all their lives..
One of my "customers" has full blown Alzheimer's and her family is
awaiting an opening in an assisted living or nursing home. She doesn't
always recognize her husband but for some reason she recognizes me every
morning when I go up to her door to escort her to the van.
She gives me a hug and then says, "Where are we going?"

This morning I had the radio on and "Jingle Bells" started to play.
All ten started singing... making up the words in some cases ... but
bellowing out the song.


You're a good soul! 😀


I don't know about my soul but it's better than sitting around twiddling
my thumbs, doing nothing. Scary though because I am
older than many of them.

The center gives the drivers some basic training in dealing with people
with dementia and Alzheimer's although I had some experience dealing
with Mrs.E's parents before they passed away. The woman that has full
blown Alzheimer's was a problem at first because she insisted on
unbuckling her seat belt and getting up every time I stopped at a stop
sign or red light. I was constantly having to go back and strap her
back in and try to persuade her (to no avail) to leave the seat belt on.
She can't remember what happened a minute ago. Finally, about a month
ago, I tried something else. I strapped her in, then put both her hands
on the shoulder belt and told her she was supposed to hold onto it until
I told her she could let it go. She hasn't taken the seat belts off or
left her seat since. She just needed a "job" to do and has a big smile
when I tell her "good job" when we get to the center or back to her house..

My dad has stage 6 dementia. He can be a handful at times, and reasoning with him is futile. We've all learned that you just have to go along with him for the most part, even if he's saying something that you know isn't true.

We finally got him into a skilled nursing facility. Best thing that's happened to him. Instead of sitting around all day reading in silence, now he's socialized with people around him. His mood and general health have improved tremendously. It's a tough decision for family to make.

On 12/7/2015 1:25 PM, wrote:
On Monday, December 7, 2015 at 1:08:43 PM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/7/2015 12:24 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/7/2015 11:45 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 12/7/15 11:29 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/7/2015 11:21 AM, John H. wrote:
On Saturday, December 5, 2015 at 9:16:15 AM UTC-5, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 12/5/15 9:13 AM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 4 Dec 2015 20:23:51 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 12/4/15 5:26 PM, True North wrote:
Wow, JohnnyMop.
You're beside yourself with your race baiting.


He has been for a long time.

I can understand Don's stupidity, but surely you're intelligent
enough to see that
the statistics came from your lovely administration's Department of
Justice.

But, maybe not.

Or, maybe Holder, et al, are 'race baiters'.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


You're the race baiter, Herring.

Right up there with your DOJ, eh Krause? How about that
name-calling...you ready to stop?



Hard to believe sometimes that rec.boats is populated with many 70
something year olds. I often listen to more meaningful discussions
while driving elderly folks with mental disabilities to and from an
adult day care center everyday. :-)




Yeah, but those are just the voices in your head!

They are a jovial group. The van I am driving right now holds 10
passengers and some of the discussions going on among them can get
funny as hell. No politics, no concerns about world events, etc.
They are more focused on what events and activities are scheduled that
day at the center or when the next "field trip" to the Dollar Store is
scheduled.

Many suffer from dementia or are mentally disabled due to a severe
stroke or something. A few have been mentally disabled all their lives.
One of my "customers" has full blown Alzheimer's and her family is
awaiting an opening in an assisted living or nursing home. She doesn't
always recognize her husband but for some reason she recognizes me every
morning when I go up to her door to escort her to the van.
She gives me a hug and then says, "Where are we going?"

This morning I had the radio on and "Jingle Bells" started to play.
All ten started singing... making up the words in some cases ... but
bellowing out the song.


You're a good soul! 😀


I don't know about my soul but it's better than sitting around twiddling
my thumbs, doing nothing. Scary though because I am
older than many of them.

The center gives the drivers some basic training in dealing with people
with dementia and Alzheimer's although I had some experience dealing
with Mrs.E's parents before they passed away. The woman that has full
blown Alzheimer's was a problem at first because she insisted on
unbuckling her seat belt and getting up every time I stopped at a stop
sign or red light. I was constantly having to go back and strap her
back in and try to persuade her (to no avail) to leave the seat belt on.
She can't remember what happened a minute ago. Finally, about a month
ago, I tried something else. I strapped her in, then put both her hands
on the shoulder belt and told her she was supposed to hold onto it until
I told her she could let it go. She hasn't taken the seat belts off or
left her seat since. She just needed a "job" to do and has a big smile
when I tell her "good job" when we get to the center or back to her house.

My dad has stage 6 dementia. He can be a handful at times, and reasoning with him is futile. We've all learned that you just have to go along with him for the most part, even if he's saying something that you know isn't true.

We finally got him into a skilled nursing facility. Best thing that's happened to him. Instead of sitting around all day reading in silence, now he's socialized with people around him. His mood and general health have improved tremendously. It's a tough decision for family to make.


Both my wife's father and mother were afflicted. Her father finally
went to a lifecare center without complaint but her mother stubbornly
refused to leave her house for several years, despite becoming more and
more dependent on others. Because she wasn't bad enough to be
classified as being totally "incompetent" there was nothing that could
be done to force her. It was a very difficult period of time, lasting
for years until she finally died.

The center I drive for is designed for families (sons/daughters/spouses)
who are the primary caregivers but still work during the day. It is
certified for dementia and Alzheimer's care as well as other adult
disabilities or handicaps. It is staffed with both nurses and certified
social workers. My hat is off to them. It's enough just driving them
to and from the place, although I have to admit, I enjoy it most of the
time.