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On Sun, 29 Nov 2015 20:26:40 -0800, Califbill billnews wrote:
See Tim has earned a lifestyle change. Good luck Tim. Still FOAD bragging on his omnipresence. Went to Williams, AZ for a few days to ride the Polar Express with the granddaughters. 5-5-7. Was fun. Took a day trip up to the Grand Canyon. Nice hole in the earth still. Big herd of elk by the entrance. Seemed to be all does. Hunting season open, so maybe the Bakst are hiding. Long drive. About 1500 miles total. Did take a few days for the drive. If go next year, may fly to Vegas and rent a car. Did snow Friday for the train ride. Rest of the time cold. Last times I was in Williams, Route 66 still ran through the town. 1964 January. And 1965 July. The Polar Express sounds like fun. I like that 15% military discount too! We did the Utah trip a few years back with our first RV. Saw Bryce Canyon, Zion, Arches, Canyonland, and North Rim national parks. Spectacular! -- Ban idiots, not guns! |
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On 11/30/2015 8:51 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 29 Nov 2015 20:26:40 -0800, Califbill billnews wrote: See Tim has earned a lifestyle change. Good luck Tim. Still FOAD bragging on his omnipresence. Went to Williams, AZ for a few days to ride the Polar Express with the granddaughters. 5-5-7. Was fun. Took a day trip up to the Grand Canyon. Nice hole in the earth still. Big herd of elk by the entrance. Seemed to be all does. Hunting season open, so maybe the Bakst are hiding. Long drive. About 1500 miles total. Did take a few days for the drive. If go next year, may fly to Vegas and rent a car. Did snow Friday for the train ride. Rest of the time cold. Last times I was in Williams, Route 66 still ran through the town. 1964 January. And 1965 July. The Polar Express sounds like fun. I like that 15% military discount too! We did the Utah trip a few years back with our first RV. Saw Bryce Canyon, Zion, Arches, Canyonland, and North Rim national parks. Spectacular! -- Ban idiots, not guns! How was the north rim compared to the south rim? We were thinking of doing it but it seemed to be a bit out of the way. |
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On Mon, 30 Nov 2015 09:05:23 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 11/30/2015 8:51 AM, John H. wrote: On Sun, 29 Nov 2015 20:26:40 -0800, Califbill billnews wrote: See Tim has earned a lifestyle change. Good luck Tim. Still FOAD bragging on his omnipresence. Went to Williams, AZ for a few days to ride the Polar Express with the granddaughters. 5-5-7. Was fun. Took a day trip up to the Grand Canyon. Nice hole in the earth still. Big herd of elk by the entrance. Seemed to be all does. Hunting season open, so maybe the Bakst are hiding. Long drive. About 1500 miles total. Did take a few days for the drive. If go next year, may fly to Vegas and rent a car. Did snow Friday for the train ride. Rest of the time cold. Last times I was in Williams, Route 66 still ran through the town. 1964 January. And 1965 July. The Polar Express sounds like fun. I like that 15% military discount too! We did the Utah trip a few years back with our first RV. Saw Bryce Canyon, Zion, Arches, Canyonland, and North Rim national parks. Spectacular! -- Ban idiots, not guns! How was the north rim compared to the south rim? We were thinking of doing it but it seemed to be a bit out of the way. I used to work with an AZ National Guard unit in Flagstaff, so I got to see the south rim a few times. I like the North Rim much, much more. Several lookouts, nice trails, great facilities. If you plan to stay at the lodge or cabins at the park, make reservations early - like now! -- Ban idiots, not guns! |
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On 11/30/2015 9:42 AM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 30 Nov 2015 09:05:23 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote: On 11/30/2015 8:51 AM, John H. wrote: On Sun, 29 Nov 2015 20:26:40 -0800, Califbill billnews wrote: See Tim has earned a lifestyle change. Good luck Tim. Still FOAD bragging on his omnipresence. Went to Williams, AZ for a few days to ride the Polar Express with the granddaughters. 5-5-7. Was fun. Took a day trip up to the Grand Canyon. Nice hole in the earth still. Big herd of elk by the entrance. Seemed to be all does. Hunting season open, so maybe the Bakst are hiding. Long drive. About 1500 miles total. Did take a few days for the drive. If go next year, may fly to Vegas and rent a car. Did snow Friday for the train ride. Rest of the time cold. Last times I was in Williams, Route 66 still ran through the town. 1964 January. And 1965 July. The Polar Express sounds like fun. I like that 15% military discount too! We did the Utah trip a few years back with our first RV. Saw Bryce Canyon, Zion, Arches, Canyonland, and North Rim national parks. Spectacular! -- Ban idiots, not guns! How was the north rim compared to the south rim? We were thinking of doing it but it seemed to be a bit out of the way. I used to work with an AZ National Guard unit in Flagstaff, so I got to see the south rim a few times. I like the North Rim much, much more. Several lookouts, nice trails, great facilities. If you plan to stay at the lodge or cabins at the park, make reservations early - like now! -- Ban idiots, not guns! We be campers. 13 feet high and 57 feet long with toad. Any camping spots nearby and accessible which could accommodate? |
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John H. wrote:
On Sun, 29 Nov 2015 20:26:40 -0800, Califbill billnews wrote: See Tim has earned a lifestyle change. Good luck Tim. Still FOAD bragging on his omnipresence. Went to Williams, AZ for a few days to ride the Polar Express with the granddaughters. 5-5-7. Was fun. Took a day trip up to the Grand Canyon. Nice hole in the earth still. Big herd of elk by the entrance. Seemed to be all does. Hunting season open, so maybe the Bakst are hiding. Long drive. About 1500 miles total. Did take a few days for the drive. If go next year, may fly to Vegas and rent a car. Did snow Friday for the train ride. Rest of the time cold. Last times I was in Williams, Route 66 still ran through the town. 1964 January. And 1965 July. The Polar Express sounds like fun. I like that 15% military discount too! We did the Utah trip a few years back with our first RV. Saw Bryce Canyon, Zion, Arches, Canyonland, and North Rim national parks. Spectacular! -- Ban idiots, not guns! My older daughter and family went to Zion first. Son in law says they are going back, they loved it. |
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Justan Olphart wrote:
On 11/30/2015 9:42 AM, John H. wrote: On Mon, 30 Nov 2015 09:05:23 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote: On 11/30/2015 8:51 AM, John H. wrote: On Sun, 29 Nov 2015 20:26:40 -0800, Califbill billnews wrote: See Tim has earned a lifestyle change. Good luck Tim. Still FOAD bragging on his omnipresence. Went to Williams, AZ for a few days to ride the Polar Express with the granddaughters. 5-5-7. Was fun. Took a day trip up to the Grand Canyon. Nice hole in the earth still. Big herd of elk by the entrance. Seemed to be all does. Hunting season open, so maybe the Bakst are hiding. Long drive. About 1500 miles total. Did take a few days for the drive. If go next year, may fly to Vegas and rent a car. Did snow Friday for the train ride. Rest of the time cold. Last times I was in Williams, Route 66 still ran through the town. 1964 January. And 1965 July. The Polar Express sounds like fun. I like that 15% military discount too! We did the Utah trip a few years back with our first RV. Saw Bryce Canyon, Zion, Arches, Canyonland, and North Rim national parks. Spectacular! -- Ban idiots, not guns! How was the north rim compared to the south rim? We were thinking of doing it but it seemed to be a bit out of the way. I used to work with an AZ National Guard unit in Flagstaff, so I got to see the south rim a few times. I like the North Rim much, much more. Several lookouts, nice trails, great facilities. If you plan to stay at the lodge or cabins at the park, make reservations early - like now! -- Ban idiots, not guns! We be campers. 13 feet high and 57 feet long with toad. Any camping spots nearby and accessible which could accommodate? Lots of BLM land open to camping in the west. |
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On Mon, 30 Nov 2015 11:57:02 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 11/30/2015 9:42 AM, John H. wrote: On Mon, 30 Nov 2015 09:05:23 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote: On 11/30/2015 8:51 AM, John H. wrote: On Sun, 29 Nov 2015 20:26:40 -0800, Califbill billnews wrote: See Tim has earned a lifestyle change. Good luck Tim. Still FOAD bragging on his omnipresence. Went to Williams, AZ for a few days to ride the Polar Express with the granddaughters. 5-5-7. Was fun. Took a day trip up to the Grand Canyon. Nice hole in the earth still. Big herd of elk by the entrance. Seemed to be all does. Hunting season open, so maybe the Bakst are hiding. Long drive. About 1500 miles total. Did take a few days for the drive. If go next year, may fly to Vegas and rent a car. Did snow Friday for the train ride. Rest of the time cold. Last times I was in Williams, Route 66 still ran through the town. 1964 January. And 1965 July. The Polar Express sounds like fun. I like that 15% military discount too! We did the Utah trip a few years back with our first RV. Saw Bryce Canyon, Zion, Arches, Canyonland, and North Rim national parks. Spectacular! -- Ban idiots, not guns! How was the north rim compared to the south rim? We were thinking of doing it but it seemed to be a bit out of the way. I used to work with an AZ National Guard unit in Flagstaff, so I got to see the south rim a few times. I like the North Rim much, much more. Several lookouts, nice trails, great facilities. If you plan to stay at the lodge or cabins at the park, make reservations early - like now! -- Ban idiots, not guns! We be campers. 13 feet high and 57 feet long with toad. Any camping spots nearby and accessible which could accommodate? We spent only one night at the North Rim Lodge. Parked the camper (19'er and 4Runner) in the parking lot. I'm pretty sure you could put the MH in a parking lot and disconnect the toad to get around in. That's what we did with the trailer. There are, pretty close: North Rim CG http://www.nps.gov/grca/planyourvisit/cg-nr.htm Jacob Lake CG http://tinyurl.com/43aar53 Demotte CG http://tinyurl.com/6t6xosp -- Ban idiots, not guns! |
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- show quoted text - "We be campers. 13 feet high and 57 feet long with toad. Any camping spots nearby and accessible which could accommodate?" "with toad"?? Who would the "toad" be.......you? |
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True North wrote:
Justan Olphart - show quoted text - "We be campers. 13 feet high and 57 feet long with toad. Any camping spots nearby and accessible which could accommodate?" "with toad"?? Who would the "toad" be.......you? Give it up, asshole. |
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True North wrote:
Justan Olphart - show quoted text - "We be campers. 13 feet high and 57 feet long with toad. Any camping spots nearby and accessible which could accommodate?" "with toad"?? Who would the "toad" be.......you? It is RV for towed vehicle. Get a brain. |
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On 11/30/15 5:34 PM, True North wrote:
Justan Olphart - show quoted text - "We be campers. 13 feet high and 57 feet long with toad. Any camping spots nearby and accessible which could accommodate?" "with toad"?? Who would the "toad" be.......you? I think the word is "RV'ese" for the little cars the monster RVs tow behind them, making them even more of an annoyance on the highways. RVs are among the worst annoyances on the interstates...big, bulky, sometimes really lousy drivers, and then two of them in front of you pull into the passing lanes. Even worse on the two or three lane state roads. There ought to be laws that require them to stay in the right hand lane, period. |
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On 12/1/2015 6:39 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 11/30/15 5:34 PM, True North wrote: Justan Olphart - show quoted text - "We be campers. 13 feet high and 57 feet long with toad. Any camping spots nearby and accessible which could accommodate?" "with toad"?? Who would the "toad" be.......you? I think the word is "RV'ese" for the little cars the monster RVs tow behind them, making them even more of an annoyance on the highways. RVs are among the worst annoyances on the interstates...big, bulky, sometimes really lousy drivers, and then two of them in front of you pull into the passing lanes. Even worse on the two or three lane state roads. There ought to be laws that require them to stay in the right hand lane, period. No more an annoyance than a little car towing a big boat. You can tow it, but can you stop it? |
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On Tuesday, December 1, 2015 at 7:31:05 AM UTC-6, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 12/1/2015 6:39 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 11/30/15 5:34 PM, True North wrote: Justan Olphart - show quoted text - "We be campers. 13 feet high and 57 feet long with toad. Any camping spots nearby and accessible which could accommodate?" "with toad"?? Who would the "toad" be.......you? I think the word is "RV'ese" for the little cars the monster RVs tow behind them, making them even more of an annoyance on the highways. RVs are among the worst annoyances on the interstates...big, bulky, sometimes really lousy drivers, and then two of them in front of you pull into the passing lanes. Even worse on the two or three lane state roads. There ought to be laws that require them to stay in the right hand lane, period. No more an annoyance than a little car towing a big boat. You can tow it, but can you stop it? I remember some time ago there was a guy who popped in here wanting to know if it was ok to pull a 20 ft boat with an old Pinto wagon. That gave me the credeps |
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On 12/1/2015 10:05 AM, Tim wrote:
On Tuesday, December 1, 2015 at 7:31:05 AM UTC-6, Justan Olphart wrote: On 12/1/2015 6:39 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 11/30/15 5:34 PM, True North wrote: Justan Olphart - show quoted text - "We be campers. 13 feet high and 57 feet long with toad. Any camping spots nearby and accessible which could accommodate?" "with toad"?? Who would the "toad" be.......you? I think the word is "RV'ese" for the little cars the monster RVs tow behind them, making them even more of an annoyance on the highways. RVs are among the worst annoyances on the interstates...big, bulky, sometimes really lousy drivers, and then two of them in front of you pull into the passing lanes. Even worse on the two or three lane state roads. There ought to be laws that require them to stay in the right hand lane, period. No more an annoyance than a little car towing a big boat. You can tow it, but can you stop it? I remember some time ago there was a guy who popped in here wanting to know if it was ok to pull a 20 ft boat with an old Pinto wagon. That gave me the credeps I see examples of that on the highway. If I think it's safe to pass them, I will or I'll fall back and give them plenty of space. Some of these SUVs on a car chassis with car brakes are the worst offenders. |
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On Tue, 1 Dec 2015 11:29:41 -0500, Justan Olphart
wrote: On 12/1/2015 10:05 AM, Tim wrote: On Tuesday, December 1, 2015 at 7:31:05 AM UTC-6, Justan Olphart wrote: On 12/1/2015 6:39 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 11/30/15 5:34 PM, True North wrote: Justan Olphart - show quoted text - "We be campers. 13 feet high and 57 feet long with toad. Any camping spots nearby and accessible which could accommodate?" "with toad"?? Who would the "toad" be.......you? I think the word is "RV'ese" for the little cars the monster RVs tow behind them, making them even more of an annoyance on the highways. RVs are among the worst annoyances on the interstates...big, bulky, sometimes really lousy drivers, and then two of them in front of you pull into the passing lanes. Even worse on the two or three lane state roads. There ought to be laws that require them to stay in the right hand lane, period. No more an annoyance than a little car towing a big boat. You can tow it, but can you stop it? I remember some time ago there was a guy who popped in here wanting to know if it was ok to pull a 20 ft boat with an old Pinto wagon. That gave me the credeps I see examples of that on the highway. If I think it's safe to pass them, I will or I'll fall back and give them plenty of space. Some of these SUVs on a car chassis with car brakes are the worst offenders. === We see people all the time pulling trailers that are right on the edge of being out of control. They'll speed up a little, the trailer will start to sway and fish tail. and then they'll slow back down enough to maintain control. I call it an accident waiting for a place to happen. My other pet peeve is under powered RVs however, and there are quite a few of them. Either the RV or the driver is unable to maintain a reasonable speed and they create a rolling road block in the right lane. Everyone else is forced out into the passing lane which creates a massive bottleneck on a two lane interstate. |
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On Tue, 1 Dec 2015 14:18:05 -0500, Justan Olphart
wrote: Relax, slow down, and enjoy the scenery. === Not my style although I do enjoy scenery. I like to be out there pushing the edge which means 80 to 90 mph these days. The defacto speed limit on FL interstates used to be about 80 but that seems to have edged up to to 85+ in recent years. Don't get me going on Q-tips. :-) |
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On Tue, 1 Dec 2015 15:23:09 -0500, Justan Olphart
wrote: On 12/1/2015 2:59 PM, wrote: On Tue, 1 Dec 2015 14:18:05 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote: Relax, slow down, and enjoy the scenery. === Not my style although I do enjoy scenery. I like to be out there pushing the edge which means 80 to 90 mph these days. The defacto speed limit on FL interstates used to be about 80 but that seems to have edged up to to 85+ in recent years. Don't get me going on Q-tips. :-) Ahhh. I see your problem with RVs. Too bad so sad. === I see some RVs and commercial busses which can run a steady 80+ so it is doable. I'm also fine with the trucks running 70 to 75. My big issue with trucks is in hill country where they are racing each other uphill at 40 to 50 mph. That should be illegal. |
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On Tue, 1 Dec 2015 11:29:41 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote: On 12/1/2015 10:05 AM, Tim wrote: On Tuesday, December 1, 2015 at 7:31:05 AM UTC-6, Justan Olphart wrote: On 12/1/2015 6:39 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 11/30/15 5:34 PM, True North wrote: Justan Olphart - show quoted text - "We be campers. 13 feet high and 57 feet long with toad. Any camping spots nearby and accessible which could accommodate?" "with toad"?? Who would the "toad" be.......you? I think the word is "RV'ese" for the little cars the monster RVs tow behind them, making them even more of an annoyance on the highways. RVs are among the worst annoyances on the interstates...big, bulky, sometimes really lousy drivers, and then two of them in front of you pull into the passing lanes. Even worse on the two or three lane state roads. There ought to be laws that require them to stay in the right hand lane, period. No more an annoyance than a little car towing a big boat. You can tow it, but can you stop it? I remember some time ago there was a guy who popped in here wanting to know if it was ok to pull a 20 ft boat with an old Pinto wagon. That gave me the credeps I see examples of that on the highway. If I think it's safe to pass them, I will or I'll fall back and give them plenty of space. Some of these SUVs on a car chassis with car brakes are the worst offenders. === We see people all the time pulling trailers that are right on the edge of being out of control. They'll speed up a little, the trailer will start to sway and fish tail. and then they'll slow back down enough to maintain control. I call it an accident waiting for a place to happen. My other pet peeve is under powered RVs however, and there are quite a few of them. Either the RV or the driver is unable to maintain a reasonable speed and they create a rolling road block in the right lane. Everyone else is forced out into the passing lane which creates a massive bottleneck on a two lane interstate. Here we have all the people who come from countries who drive on the left seem to want to drive in the left lane, and drive at least 5 under. |
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On Tue, 1 Dec 2015 15:23:09 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote: On 12/1/2015 2:59 PM, wrote: On Tue, 1 Dec 2015 14:18:05 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote: Relax, slow down, and enjoy the scenery. === Not my style although I do enjoy scenery. I like to be out there pushing the edge which means 80 to 90 mph these days. The defacto speed limit on FL interstates used to be about 80 but that seems to have edged up to to 85+ in recent years. Don't get me going on Q-tips. :-) Ahhh. I see your problem with RVs. Too bad so sad. === I see some RVs and commercial busses which can run a steady 80+ so it is doable. I'm also fine with the trucks running 70 to 75. My big issue with trucks is in hill country where they are racing each other uphill at 40 to 50 mph. That should be illegal. The truck and trailer towing problem in California is the speed limit. 55! I-5 is 2 lanes each way most of the way through the Central Valley. So the trucks are pushing 62-64, and then try to pass on a hill. Where the car speed limit is 70 and most are pushing 75-80. |
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On Tue, 1 Dec 2015 16:34:40 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: On 12/1/2015 1:29 PM, wrote: On Tue, 1 Dec 2015 11:29:41 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote: On 12/1/2015 10:05 AM, Tim wrote: On Tuesday, December 1, 2015 at 7:31:05 AM UTC-6, Justan Olphart wrote: On 12/1/2015 6:39 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 11/30/15 5:34 PM, True North wrote: Justan Olphart - show quoted text - "We be campers. 13 feet high and 57 feet long with toad. Any camping spots nearby and accessible which could accommodate?" "with toad"?? Who would the "toad" be.......you? I think the word is "RV'ese" for the little cars the monster RVs tow behind them, making them even more of an annoyance on the highways. RVs are among the worst annoyances on the interstates...big, bulky, sometimes really lousy drivers, and then two of them in front of you pull into the passing lanes. Even worse on the two or three lane state roads. There ought to be laws that require them to stay in the right hand lane, period. No more an annoyance than a little car towing a big boat. You can tow it, but can you stop it? I remember some time ago there was a guy who popped in here wanting to know if it was ok to pull a 20 ft boat with an old Pinto wagon. That gave me the credeps I see examples of that on the highway. If I think it's safe to pass them, I will or I'll fall back and give them plenty of space. Some of these SUVs on a car chassis with car brakes are the worst offenders. === We see people all the time pulling trailers that are right on the edge of being out of control. They'll speed up a little, the trailer will start to sway and fish tail. and then they'll slow back down enough to maintain control. I call it an accident waiting for a place to happen. My other pet peeve is under powered RVs however, and there are quite a few of them. Either the RV or the driver is unable to maintain a reasonable speed and they create a rolling road block in the right lane. Everyone else is forced out into the passing lane which creates a massive bottleneck on a two lane interstate. My relatively short experience with larger RV's is that just like a boat, at a certain size a diesel is a must. We had a 35 or 36 ft. Pace Arrow Class "A" motorhome that I drove to Florida and back ... once. It was powered by a big GM "Vortex" something gas engine with the Allison transmission. The transmission was awesome but, as big as it was, the engine lacked the torque to haul the RV up some of the long, steep hills on Rt. 81. It would downshift to 3rd gear and we'd climb the grade with the engine racing at about 4K RPM, doing about 45 mph. A diesel would have been much better. The little Sprinter RV had a small, 5 cylinder Mercedes diesel engine. Obviously, it was much smaller and lighter than the Pace Arrow but it was still impressive for such a little engine. It climbed up and down the same hills towing a trailer and never slowed down or even downshifted. === Europe has some great diesels. Five years ago we rented a Volkswagon Van comparable in size to a Ford E250. It had a 5 cylinder diesel and would run all day at 90 mph, up hill and down hill. My wife's M-B Blutec has a 6 cylinder turbo diesel with more torque than the V8 in my Tundra. It will really kick you back in the seat when the power comes on. |
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On Tue, 1 Dec 2015 16:47:31 -0500, Justan Olphart
wrote: On 12/1/2015 4:18 PM, wrote: On Tue, 1 Dec 2015 15:23:09 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote: On 12/1/2015 2:59 PM, wrote: On Tue, 1 Dec 2015 14:18:05 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote: Relax, slow down, and enjoy the scenery. === Not my style although I do enjoy scenery. I like to be out there pushing the edge which means 80 to 90 mph these days. The defacto speed limit on FL interstates used to be about 80 but that seems to have edged up to to 85+ in recent years. Don't get me going on Q-tips. :-) Ahhh. I see your problem with RVs. Too bad so sad. === I see some RVs and commercial busses which can run a steady 80+ so it is doable. I'm also fine with the trucks running 70 to 75. My big issue with trucks is in hill country where they are racing each other uphill at 40 to 50 mph. That should be illegal. Why? === Why? Because it creates massive traffic backups when the high speed car traffic has no way around the trucks. It also inspires a certain amount of reckless behavior which leads to accidents. |
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On Tue, 01 Dec 2015 16:18:48 -0500, wrote:
On Tue, 1 Dec 2015 15:23:09 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote: On 12/1/2015 2:59 PM, wrote: On Tue, 1 Dec 2015 14:18:05 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote: Relax, slow down, and enjoy the scenery. === Not my style although I do enjoy scenery. I like to be out there pushing the edge which means 80 to 90 mph these days. The defacto speed limit on FL interstates used to be about 80 but that seems to have edged up to to 85+ in recent years. Don't get me going on Q-tips. :-) Ahhh. I see your problem with RVs. Too bad so sad. === I see some RVs and commercial busses which can run a steady 80+ so it is doable. I'm also fine with the trucks running 70 to 75. My big issue with trucks is in hill country where they are racing each other uphill at 40 to 50 mph. That should be illegal. Sounds a lot like I-81 in Virginia. But, I have to admit the truckers are usually pretty courteous. They've got their job to do. Since I use cruise control, they pass me on the downhill side, and I pass them back on the uphill side. Eventually we're waving at each other. -- Ban idiots, not guns! |
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On Tue, 1 Dec 2015 16:53:17 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 12/1/2015 4:34 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 12/1/2015 1:29 PM, wrote: On Tue, 1 Dec 2015 11:29:41 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote: On 12/1/2015 10:05 AM, Tim wrote: On Tuesday, December 1, 2015 at 7:31:05 AM UTC-6, Justan Olphart wrote: On 12/1/2015 6:39 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 11/30/15 5:34 PM, True North wrote: Justan Olphart - show quoted text - "We be campers. 13 feet high and 57 feet long with toad. Any camping spots nearby and accessible which could accommodate?" "with toad"?? Who would the "toad" be.......you? I think the word is "RV'ese" for the little cars the monster RVs tow behind them, making them even more of an annoyance on the highways. RVs are among the worst annoyances on the interstates...big, bulky, sometimes really lousy drivers, and then two of them in front of you pull into the passing lanes. Even worse on the two or three lane state roads. There ought to be laws that require them to stay in the right hand lane, period. No more an annoyance than a little car towing a big boat. You can tow it, but can you stop it? I remember some time ago there was a guy who popped in here wanting to know if it was ok to pull a 20 ft boat with an old Pinto wagon. That gave me the credeps I see examples of that on the highway. If I think it's safe to pass them, I will or I'll fall back and give them plenty of space. Some of these SUVs on a car chassis with car brakes are the worst offenders. === We see people all the time pulling trailers that are right on the edge of being out of control. They'll speed up a little, the trailer will start to sway and fish tail. and then they'll slow back down enough to maintain control. I call it an accident waiting for a place to happen. My other pet peeve is under powered RVs however, and there are quite a few of them. Either the RV or the driver is unable to maintain a reasonable speed and they create a rolling road block in the right lane. Everyone else is forced out into the passing lane which creates a massive bottleneck on a two lane interstate. My relatively short experience with larger RV's is that just like a boat, at a certain size a diesel is a must. We had a 35 or 36 ft. Pace Arrow Class "A" motorhome that I drove to Florida and back ... once. It was powered by a big GM "Vortex" something gas engine with the Allison transmission. The transmission was awesome but, as big as it was, the engine lacked the torque to haul the RV up some of the long, steep hills on Rt. 81. It would downshift to 3rd gear and we'd climb the grade with the engine racing at about 4K RPM, doing about 45 mph. A diesel would have been much better. The little Sprinter RV had a small, 5 cylinder Mercedes diesel engine. Obviously, it was much smaller and lighter than the Pace Arrow but it was still impressive for such a little engine. It climbed up and down the same hills towing a trailer and never slowed down or even downshifted. The biggest hill climb is that 8 mile incline approaching the Virginia line from NC. In a car you don't even know it's there. In a RV you do need to do some shifting. You need a diesel Silverado. Don't need no steenking downshifting! Of course, I'm pulling only about 11500 lbs. But, every year my wife seems to add about 500lbs worth of 'stuff'. So next year I'll probably have an even dozen thousand. -- Ban idiots, not guns! |
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On Tue, 01 Dec 2015 18:30:54 -0500, John H.
wrote: The biggest hill climb is that 8 mile incline approaching the Virginia line from NC. In a car you don't even know it's there. In a RV you do need to do some shifting. You need a diesel Silverado. Don't need no steenking downshifting! Of course, I'm pulling only about 11500 lbs. But, every year my wife seems to add about 500lbs worth of 'stuff'. So next year I'll probably have an even dozen thousand. === Is that basically the same as the GMC diesel? I have a neighbor with a GMC diesel dually and he can pull a car carrier with about 4 vehicles on it. |
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On Tue, 01 Dec 2015 18:30:54 -0500, John H. wrote: The biggest hill climb is that 8 mile incline approaching the Virginia line from NC. In a car you don't even know it's there. In a RV you do need to do some shifting. You need a diesel Silverado. Don't need no steenking downshifting! Of course, I'm pulling only about 11500 lbs. But, every year my wife seems to add about 500lbs worth of 'stuff'. So next year I'll probably have an even dozen thousand. === Is that basically the same as the GMC diesel? I have a neighbor with a GMC diesel dually and he can pull a car carrier with about 4 vehicles on it. Same truck, different trim. |
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On Tuesday, December 1, 2015 at 1:47:29 PM UTC-8, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 12/1/2015 4:18 PM, wrote: On Tue, 1 Dec 2015 15:23:09 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote: On 12/1/2015 2:59 PM, wrote: On Tue, 1 Dec 2015 14:18:05 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote: Relax, slow down, and enjoy the scenery. === Not my style although I do enjoy scenery. I like to be out there pushing the edge which means 80 to 90 mph these days. The defacto speed limit on FL interstates used to be about 80 but that seems to have edged up to to 85+ in recent years. Don't get me going on Q-tips. :-) Ahhh. I see your problem with RVs. Too bad so sad. === I see some RVs and commercial busses which can run a steady 80+ so it is doable. I'm also fine with the trucks running 70 to 75. My big issue with trucks is in hill country where they are racing each other uphill at 40 to 50 mph. That should be illegal. Why? Why? Really? What Wayne was trying to explain, and for some stupid reason you don't comprehend, was it sucks to be stuck behind TWO2 truckers (got it) trying to pass each other on a hill. Most likely doing 1/2 mile an hour over the other (got it yet?) Did I cut an paste right this time? |
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On 12/2/2015 12:58 AM, wrote:
On Tuesday, December 1, 2015 at 1:47:29 PM UTC-8, Justan Olphart wrote: On 12/1/2015 4:18 PM, wrote: On Tue, 1 Dec 2015 15:23:09 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote: On 12/1/2015 2:59 PM, wrote: On Tue, 1 Dec 2015 14:18:05 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote: Relax, slow down, and enjoy the scenery. === Not my style although I do enjoy scenery. I like to be out there pushing the edge which means 80 to 90 mph these days. The defacto speed limit on FL interstates used to be about 80 but that seems to have edged up to to 85+ in recent years. Don't get me going on Q-tips. :-) Ahhh. I see your problem with RVs. Too bad so sad. === I see some RVs and commercial busses which can run a steady 80+ so it is doable. I'm also fine with the trucks running 70 to 75. My big issue with trucks is in hill country where they are racing each other uphill at 40 to 50 mph. That should be illegal. Why? Why? Really? What Wayne was trying to explain, and for some stupid reason you don't comprehend, was it sucks to be stuck behind TWO2 truckers (got it) trying to pass each other on a hill. Most likely doing 1/2 mile an hour over the other (got it yet?) Did I cut an paste right this time? Are you a newbie or just one of the old regulars with a new handle? There is no need to cut and paste if you have a decent news reader set up properly, but yes, you did fine. I thought he was complaining about an RV, doing the speed limit in the RIGHT lane, getting in his way. |
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On 12/2/2015 8:04 AM, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 01 Dec 2015 22:30:16 -0500, wrote: On Tue, 01 Dec 2015 18:30:54 -0500, John H. wrote: The biggest hill climb is that 8 mile incline approaching the Virginia line from NC. In a car you don't even know it's there. In a RV you do need to do some shifting. You need a diesel Silverado. Don't need no steenking downshifting! Of course, I'm pulling only about 11500 lbs. But, every year my wife seems to add about 500lbs worth of 'stuff'. So next year I'll probably have an even dozen thousand. === Is that basically the same as the GMC diesel? I have a neighbor with a GMC diesel dually and he can pull a car carrier with about 4 vehicles on it. Yup, same engine probably - Duramax 6.6L 400hp. The engine doesn't seem to notice whether or not the trailer is there. -- Ban idiots, not guns! My Cummins is only 380HP. It might have a little more torque though. |
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On Tue, 1 Dec 2015 21:58:29 -0800 (PST), wrote:
On Tuesday, December 1, 2015 at 1:47:29 PM UTC-8, Justan Olphart wrote: On 12/1/2015 4:18 PM, wrote: On Tue, 1 Dec 2015 15:23:09 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote: On 12/1/2015 2:59 PM, wrote: On Tue, 1 Dec 2015 14:18:05 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote: Relax, slow down, and enjoy the scenery. === Not my style although I do enjoy scenery. I like to be out there pushing the edge which means 80 to 90 mph these days. The defacto speed limit on FL interstates used to be about 80 but that seems to have edged up to to 85+ in recent years. Don't get me going on Q-tips. :-) Ahhh. I see your problem with RVs. Too bad so sad. === I see some RVs and commercial busses which can run a steady 80+ so it is doable. I'm also fine with the trucks running 70 to 75. My big issue with trucks is in hill country where they are racing each other uphill at 40 to 50 mph. That should be illegal. Why? Why? Really? What Wayne was trying to explain, and for some stupid reason you don't comprehend, was it sucks to be stuck behind TWO2 truckers (got it) trying to pass each other on a hill. Most likely doing 1/2 mile an hour over the other (got it yet?) Did I cut an paste right this time? I think he was suggesting that Wayne might want to relax and smell the roses. It doesn't pay to let the truckers disrupt your serenity. Better to think they've got a job to do where time is money. -- Ban idiots, not guns! |
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On 12/2/2015 8:25 AM, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 1 Dec 2015 21:58:29 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Tuesday, December 1, 2015 at 1:47:29 PM UTC-8, Justan Olphart wrote: On 12/1/2015 4:18 PM, wrote: On Tue, 1 Dec 2015 15:23:09 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote: On 12/1/2015 2:59 PM, wrote: On Tue, 1 Dec 2015 14:18:05 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote: Relax, slow down, and enjoy the scenery. === Not my style although I do enjoy scenery. I like to be out there pushing the edge which means 80 to 90 mph these days. The defacto speed limit on FL interstates used to be about 80 but that seems to have edged up to to 85+ in recent years. Don't get me going on Q-tips. :-) Ahhh. I see your problem with RVs. Too bad so sad. === I see some RVs and commercial busses which can run a steady 80+ so it is doable. I'm also fine with the trucks running 70 to 75. My big issue with trucks is in hill country where they are racing each other uphill at 40 to 50 mph. That should be illegal. Why? Why? Really? What Wayne was trying to explain, and for some stupid reason you don't comprehend, was it sucks to be stuck behind TWO2 truckers (got it) trying to pass each other on a hill. Most likely doing 1/2 mile an hour over the other (got it yet?) Did I cut an paste right this time? I think he was suggesting that Wayne might want to relax and smell the roses. It doesn't pay to let the truckers disrupt your serenity. Better to think they've got a job to do where time is money. -- Ban idiots, not guns! I love it when people say "got it". Makes me think they think they have something important to say. |
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On Wed, 2 Dec 2015 08:11:36 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 12/2/2015 8:04 AM, John H. wrote: On Tue, 01 Dec 2015 22:30:16 -0500, wrote: On Tue, 01 Dec 2015 18:30:54 -0500, John H. wrote: The biggest hill climb is that 8 mile incline approaching the Virginia line from NC. In a car you don't even know it's there. In a RV you do need to do some shifting. You need a diesel Silverado. Don't need no steenking downshifting! Of course, I'm pulling only about 11500 lbs. But, every year my wife seems to add about 500lbs worth of 'stuff'. So next year I'll probably have an even dozen thousand. === Is that basically the same as the GMC diesel? I have a neighbor with a GMC diesel dually and he can pull a car carrier with about 4 vehicles on it. Yup, same engine probably - Duramax 6.6L 400hp. The engine doesn't seem to notice whether or not the trailer is there. -- Ban idiots, not guns! My Cummins is only 380HP. It might have a little more torque though. Those Cummins lose about 10% of their horsepower in noise generation. :) -- Ban idiots, not guns! |
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On Wed, 2 Dec 2015 08:43:58 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 12/2/2015 8:25 AM, John H. wrote: On Tue, 1 Dec 2015 21:58:29 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Tuesday, December 1, 2015 at 1:47:29 PM UTC-8, Justan Olphart wrote: On 12/1/2015 4:18 PM, wrote: On Tue, 1 Dec 2015 15:23:09 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote: On 12/1/2015 2:59 PM, wrote: On Tue, 1 Dec 2015 14:18:05 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote: Relax, slow down, and enjoy the scenery. === Not my style although I do enjoy scenery. I like to be out there pushing the edge which means 80 to 90 mph these days. The defacto speed limit on FL interstates used to be about 80 but that seems to have edged up to to 85+ in recent years. Don't get me going on Q-tips. :-) Ahhh. I see your problem with RVs. Too bad so sad. === I see some RVs and commercial busses which can run a steady 80+ so it is doable. I'm also fine with the trucks running 70 to 75. My big issue with trucks is in hill country where they are racing each other uphill at 40 to 50 mph. That should be illegal. Why? Why? Really? What Wayne was trying to explain, and for some stupid reason you don't comprehend, was it sucks to be stuck behind TWO2 truckers (got it) trying to pass each other on a hill. Most likely doing 1/2 mile an hour over the other (got it yet?) Did I cut an paste right this time? I think he was suggesting that Wayne might want to relax and smell the roses. It doesn't pay to let the truckers disrupt your serenity. Better to think they've got a job to do where time is money. -- Ban idiots, not guns! I love it when people say "got it". Makes me think they think they have something important to say. Oh, y'all just got off on the wrong foot. My kids in Richmond are moving to Savannah, GA, this summer. I'm planning to go down for a week or so. Know any campgrounds worth their money down there? -- Ban idiots, not guns! |
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Justan Olphart wrote:
On 12/2/2015 8:04 AM, John H. wrote: On Tue, 01 Dec 2015 22:30:16 -0500, wrote: On Tue, 01 Dec 2015 18:30:54 -0500, John H. wrote: The biggest hill climb is that 8 mile incline approaching the Virginia line from NC. In a car you don't even know it's there. In a RV you do need to do some shifting. You need a diesel Silverado. Don't need no steenking downshifting! Of course, I'm pulling only about 11500 lbs. But, every year my wife seems to add about 500lbs worth of 'stuff'. So next year I'll probably have an even dozen thousand. === Is that basically the same as the GMC diesel? I have a neighbor with a GMC diesel dually and he can pull a car carrier with about 4 vehicles on it. Yup, same engine probably - Duramax 6.6L 400hp. The engine doesn't seem to notice whether or not the trailer is there. -- Ban idiots, not guns! My Cummins is only 380HP. It might have a little more torque though. Depends on year. My 2004 Chevy is 350 hp. |
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On Wed, 02 Dec 2015 09:05:25 -0500, John H.
wrote: My kids in Richmond are moving to Savannah, GA, this summer. I'm planning to go down for a week or so. Know any campgrounds worth their money down there? === No but Savannah's a great town with some beautiful coastal waterfront areas nearby. You might want to check on Tybee Island. |
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