On 11/27/15 1:06 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 21:32:34 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

wrote:
On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 20:56:19 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 09:26:54 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/26/2015 8:42 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/26/2015 2:27 AM, RGrew176 wrote:
Keyser Söze;1049568 Wrote:
On 11/25/15 12:00 PM, wrote:-
On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 10:03:39 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:
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On 11/25/15 7:41 AM, John H. wrote:-
On Tue, 24 Nov 2015 18:08:32 -0600, Boating All Out
wrote:

Will coverage of cop the killing a teen in Chicago be
another 24/7 story?
Can they manage two 24/7 stories?
We'll see.

The video definitely makes the cop appear in the wrong. But, a first
degree murder
charge has been filed. What more do the marchers want. Is this an
excuse to begin
looting and burning in Chicago?
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You probably didn't understand the civil rights demonstrations and
marches of the 1960s, either.-

Those demonstrations were because they felt their grievances were not
being heard. Charging an on duty cop with murder 1 is far from that.
It is clear that the Chicago DA was doing more than a reasonable
reaction. He better add murder 2 and manslaughter as lesser included
charges or you might have a Zimmerman moment.

It is going to be hard to make a murder 1 case although murder 2 is
possible and manslaughter is reasonable.

Without a death penalty, there is really not a significant difference
in sentencing. In most states you can still do "life" for murder 2. As
prisons get more crowded "life" really means "until you get so old and
sick that we can't afford to keep you" anyway.
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It took 13 months for an indictment, and I think that only came about
because a journalist filed an FOIA and the tapes had to be released.
Thirteen months for an indictment? That's bull****, when you have tapes

in hand.

Might be more indictments. Apparently there was a coverup and part of
that involved cop erasures of video tapes from nearby security cameras.

The tape they have is going to be near impossible to refute. Emptying
your magazine into a guy who you've already shot and who is on the
ground...that's going to be tough to defend, eh?

I wonder if the cop will cop a plea.

Agreed, with what is on the tape an indictment should have come within
60 days if even that long.




Chicago Mayor: Rahm Emanuel .... Democrat
Superintendent of Police: Garry McCarthy ... appointed by Rahm Emanuel
State Attorney - Cook County: Anita Alvarez ... Democrat



Wow...you've really gone over to the dark side. ?





Not so. Just being "fair and balanced".
Do you not think there was a 14 month cover up?
If there *was* a cover up, by whom?




It would not surprise me to learn of chicanery among some higher ups in the
police department. Police corruption is endemic nationwide.

And who selects the 'higher ups' in the police department, Krause?

Poor old Harry has painted himself into the proverbial corner. The
"higher ups" are either the appointed officials or the union leaders.

You have no idea who they are or where they are in the pecking order. A
higher up could be a sergeant.

A sargent is not going to make a murder beef go away or even delay it
longer than he can sit on a document. If the DA is pushing, that will
not be very long.


There were news reports of a cop going to a private business and erasing
video tapes. Don't know the ranking of that cop, but he probably was not
a patrolman.

On 11/27/2015 9:58 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
**** that ****.

Your English tutor would cringe if she ever heard you say that. Sheesh!

On Fri, 27 Nov 2015 07:49:31 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:



You boys are hysterical. BTW, proper usage, not GOP usage:

Democratic mayor, Democratic DA. Or the mayor is a Democrat. Not
Democrat Mayor.

When he is down to criticizing your grammar, you won.

On Fri, 27 Nov 2015 08:22:26 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:


I doubt if political party has anything to do with the delays.

What do you think the reason is, racism in the DAs office or racism
the mayor's office?
I am sure you think someone is racist here or you would not have
brought it up.
You really are starting to sound like a latter day Joe McCarthy,
finding racism at every level of government, everywhere you look.

On Fri, 27 Nov 2015 05:54:22 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:

Ditzy Dan Kruger blathers..

"People should be paid based on their performance, not as a group. Unions
remove any incentive for an individual to work harder since their salary
is not connected to their personal dedication or hard work."



Bull**** Ditzy. I worked in a union environment and the negotiated rates were considered a minimum.
There was nothing to stop management from giving a bonus to people who stood out over and above the norm. They could also be promoted as the seniority clause only affected the very lowest groups.

Maybe Canadian unions are different. In the US, union wages are pretty
much based on seniority and that is particularly true in government
unions like teachers although there is a bump for degrees, no matter
what they are in.. They buy what they sell. If a 4th grade teacher
gets a masters degree in astrophysics, they will automatically make
more money, even though it does nothing to make them a better 4th
grade teacher. If they have been in the business for 20 years they
make more than a 25 year old teacher who may be the best teacher in
the whole school system. There is no "merit pay" in most school
systems and the teacher's union fights it every time it is proposed.

The flip side of that is the worst teacher in the system can't be
fired unless they are using drugs at school or ****ing one of the kids
and even then the union will fight for them. In some places, the union
will win.

On Fri, 27 Nov 2015 10:00:43 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 11/27/15 1:06 AM, wrote:

A sargent is not going to make a murder beef go away or even delay it
longer than he can sit on a document. If the DA is pushing, that will
not be very long.


There were news reports of a cop going to a private business and erasing
video tapes. Don't know the ranking of that cop, but he probably was not
a patrolman.

That sounds like obstruction of justice and it could be there are more
indictments coming down. Again another reason not to rush to
judgement. If you really want to clean out a corrupt police
department, and CPD qualifies for that, you need to investigate.
Time is on their side.

If they had not dragged out the Watergate investigations for 2 1/2
years, Nixon would have left office in 1977 as a hero and we know you
would not have wanted that to happen.

On 11/27/15 11:19 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 27 Nov 2015 07:49:31 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:



You boys are hysterical. BTW, proper usage, not GOP usage:

Democratic mayor, Democratic DA. Or the mayor is a Democrat. Not
Democrat Mayor.

When he is down to criticizing your grammar, you won.


"Democrat" the way he used it is used as a pejorative by Republicans.
It's not grammar, per se; it's a slur.

On 11/27/15 11:24 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 27 Nov 2015 08:22:26 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:


I doubt if political party has anything to do with the delays.

What do you think the reason is, racism in the DAs office or racism
the mayor's office?
I am sure you think someone is racist here or you would not have
brought it up.
You really are starting to sound like a latter day Joe McCarthy,
finding racism at every level of government, everywhere you look.


I don't know what the reason for the delay was, and neither do you. I
think is should be investigated, and it is. Perhaps the U.S. Justice
Department will look at it, too.

On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 18:38:18 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 17:23:43 -0500,
wrote:

On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 16:12:53 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

The teachers
were not looking for anything massive, but the law said there had to be
good faith negotiations...and the strikes helped make that happen.

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Unions willing to break the law are guilty of extortion. Teachers
work hard for their money but salaries, and paticularly benefits, have
gotten out of line with private industry. This will cause a major
crisis at some point and force many local school districts into
bankruptcy.

I am not even upset at teacher salaries and benefits. What ****es me
off is they can't get rid of bad teachers, pay is not tied to
performance and the administration siphons 60% of the money away
before it ever trickles down to the actual classroom.

Sounds like you've been there and done that. You are correct.
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Ban idiots, not guns!

On 11/27/2015 11:49 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:

"Democrat" the way he used it is used as a pejorative by Republicans.
It's not grammar, per se; it's a slur.

Democrat is a slur any way you use the word. A self inflicted wound by
all you democrats. As it were.