They're just thugs...
 

On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 08:50:10 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote:

On 11/16/2015 6:24 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
when it insinuates itself into public schools, et cetera.


Are you sure you are a writer, Krause?

I wonder why Donnie doesn't jump in to help you out? You sure could use
some assistance with your writing.

Donnie! Help!
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

They're just thugs...
 

On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 08:56:13 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote:

On 11/16/2015 6:25 AM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, November 16, 2015 at 5:11:28 AM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Monday, November 16, 2015 at 12:49:03 AM UTC-6, RGrew176 wrote:
I don't think that Aljazeera could be considered to be a right wing news
source.

http://tinyurl.com/p7yjadj

And CNN is certainly NOT a right wing news source.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/13/world/...ina-burqa-ban/

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




--
RGrew176

Nor the Huffington post...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/0...n_5551063.html


Get back to us when you find a legit article that states the PRC has banned
the Muslim religion.

--
Sent from my iPhone 6+

Get back to us when you can disprove the article RGrew posted


The only things he could prove are that he neglects to pay his taxes and
other financial obligations. Those are a matter of public record. He
can't even prove that he's married to the lovely Ms Grear, or that he
has any financial interest in her home. Harry is a leech, liar, and
layabout. Why do you bother to engage him?

Well, uncovering lies is kinda fun, you know.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

They're just thugs...
 

On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 09:07:54 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 11/16/2015 7:48 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 11/16/15 7:02 AM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 06:24:25 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 11/15/15 8:31 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 15 Nov 2015 19:26:27 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

I don't think it was a knee jerk at all. I believe most people
understand the chinese tolerate religion as long as it doesn't
threaten their idea of the general order or challenge the central
government.


Pretty much how it's supposed to work here.


I tend to agree with Harry that we may have tipped the other way too
far. When Democrats have to go to prayer breakfasts to get elected, we
may be letting the church run our life a tad too much and they have
destroyed the GOP.
On the other hand the Harry's of the world are pressing too hard not
to ever see any sign of the religions too.

When there is enough politically correct pressure that Starbucks can't
put a santa clause on a coffee cup, we have lost our way


I have no objections to reasonable religious practices "practiced" in
churches, homes, religious schools, et cetera, or even the occasional
"let us pray" nonsense that creeps into the non-church environment. My
objection to religion is when its proponents push it into the public
sector, when it attempts to pass laws that restrict those who believe
differently, when it insinuates itself into public schools, et cetera.

Unless it's Islam, correct? Then the pushing, beheading, raping,
killing, and other
public 'practices' are OK, eh Krause?
--


Those would be the practices the Muslims learned from Christians, right,
Johnnycakes? Because, as we all know, Christians engaged in these
practices before there was a Muslim religion and after the Muslim
religion came about. You know the old Christian battle cry, right? The
one that goes "Convert or die"?

My primary concern about the evils of religious-osity is how it is
practiced in *this* country. In this country, it is mostly Christian
extremists who push their superstitious and ignorant beliefs onto the
public outside of churches, homes, religious schools, et cetera.




Whew. For a minute there I thought you were going to blame it on GWB.


In his mind there's nothing to blame. The actions of today's extremist Muslims are,
using Krauselogic, totally justified by the actions of Christians a thousand years
ago.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

They're just thugs...
 

On 11/16/15 9:07 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/16/2015 7:48 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 11/16/15 7:02 AM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 06:24:25 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 11/15/15 8:31 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 15 Nov 2015 19:26:27 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

I don't think it was a knee jerk at all. I believe most people
understand the chinese tolerate religion as long as it doesn't
threaten their idea of the general order or challenge the central
government.


Pretty much how it's supposed to work here.


I tend to agree with Harry that we may have tipped the other way too
far. When Democrats have to go to prayer breakfasts to get elected, we
may be letting the church run our life a tad too much and they have
destroyed the GOP.
On the other hand the Harry's of the world are pressing too hard not
to ever see any sign of the religions too.

When there is enough politically correct pressure that Starbucks can't
put a santa clause on a coffee cup, we have lost our way


I have no objections to reasonable religious practices "practiced" in
churches, homes, religious schools, et cetera, or even the occasional
"let us pray" nonsense that creeps into the non-church environment. My
objection to religion is when its proponents push it into the public
sector, when it attempts to pass laws that restrict those who believe
differently, when it insinuates itself into public schools, et cetera.

Unless it's Islam, correct? Then the pushing, beheading, raping,
killing, and other
public 'practices' are OK, eh Krause?
--


Those would be the practices the Muslims learned from Christians, right,
Johnnycakes? Because, as we all know, Christians engaged in these
practices before there was a Muslim religion and after the Muslim
religion came about. You know the old Christian battle cry, right? The
one that goes "Convert or die"?

My primary concern about the evils of religious-osity is how it is
practiced in *this* country. In this country, it is mostly Christian
extremists who push their superstitious and ignorant beliefs onto the
public outside of churches, homes, religious schools, et cetera.




Whew. For a minute there I thought you were going to blame it on GWB.



He's got enough blame on his plate. :)

They're just thugs...
 

On 11/16/15 10:28 AM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 09:07:54 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 11/16/2015 7:48 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 11/16/15 7:02 AM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 06:24:25 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 11/15/15 8:31 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 15 Nov 2015 19:26:27 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

I don't think it was a knee jerk at all. I believe most people
understand the chinese tolerate religion as long as it doesn't
threaten their idea of the general order or challenge the central
government.


Pretty much how it's supposed to work here.


I tend to agree with Harry that we may have tipped the other way too
far. When Democrats have to go to prayer breakfasts to get elected, we
may be letting the church run our life a tad too much and they have
destroyed the GOP.
On the other hand the Harry's of the world are pressing too hard not
to ever see any sign of the religions too.

When there is enough politically correct pressure that Starbucks can't
put a santa clause on a coffee cup, we have lost our way


I have no objections to reasonable religious practices "practiced" in
churches, homes, religious schools, et cetera, or even the occasional
"let us pray" nonsense that creeps into the non-church environment. My
objection to religion is when its proponents push it into the public
sector, when it attempts to pass laws that restrict those who believe
differently, when it insinuates itself into public schools, et cetera.

Unless it's Islam, correct? Then the pushing, beheading, raping,
killing, and other
public 'practices' are OK, eh Krause?
--


Those would be the practices the Muslims learned from Christians, right,
Johnnycakes? Because, as we all know, Christians engaged in these
practices before there was a Muslim religion and after the Muslim
religion came about. You know the old Christian battle cry, right? The
one that goes "Convert or die"?

My primary concern about the evils of religious-osity is how it is
practiced in *this* country. In this country, it is mostly Christian
extremists who push their superstitious and ignorant beliefs onto the
public outside of churches, homes, religious schools, et cetera.




Whew. For a minute there I thought you were going to blame it on GWB.


In his mind there's nothing to blame. The actions of today's extremist Muslims are,
using Krauselogic, totally justified by the actions of Christians a thousand years
ago.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!



In your mind, well, there's nothing there.

They're just thugs...
 

On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 06:11:25 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Tim wrote:
On Monday, November 16, 2015 at 12:49:03 AM UTC-6, RGrew176 wrote:
I don't think that Aljazeera could be considered to be a right wing news
source.

http://tinyurl.com/p7yjadj

And CNN is certainly NOT a right wing news source.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/13/world/...ina-burqa-ban/

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




--
RGrew176

Nor the Huffington post...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/0...n_5551063.html


Get back to us when you find a legit article that states the PRC has banned
the Muslim religion.

I stand by my comment. They have the same attitude as you do. They
don't ban the religion they just do not want to ever see any public
display of it. It is a don't ask don't tell policy.

They're just thugs...
 

On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 06:24:25 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 11/15/15 8:31 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 15 Nov 2015 19:26:27 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

I don't think it was a knee jerk at all. I believe most people
understand the chinese tolerate religion as long as it doesn't
threaten their idea of the general order or challenge the central
government.


Pretty much how it's supposed to work here.


I tend to agree with Harry that we may have tipped the other way too
far. When Democrats have to go to prayer breakfasts to get elected, we
may be letting the church run our life a tad too much and they have
destroyed the GOP.
On the other hand the Harry's of the world are pressing too hard not
to ever see any sign of the religions too.

When there is enough politically correct pressure that Starbucks can't
put a santa clause on a coffee cup, we have lost our way


I have no objections to reasonable religious practices "practiced" in
churches, homes, religious schools, et cetera, or even the occasional
"let us pray" nonsense that creeps into the non-church environment. My
objection to religion is when its proponents push it into the public
sector, when it attempts to pass laws that restrict those who believe
differently, when it insinuates itself into public schools, et cetera.

We could easily extend that complaint to a lot of left wing practices
like global warming hysteria.

They're just thugs...
 

On 11/16/15 8:15 AM, Tim wrote:
Oh, so you are ignorant of those "Christian practices," too. Well, there
are plenty of examples.
........

Do I remember?

Harry I wasn't born then...


Never heard or read about them, eh?
Figures.

They're just thugs...
 

On 11/16/15 8:03 AM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 07:50:38 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 11/16/15 7:45 AM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, November 16, 2015 at 5:28:08 AM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 11/16/15 6:25 AM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, November 16, 2015 at 5:11:28 AM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Monday, November 16, 2015 at 12:49:03 AM UTC-6, RGrew176 wrote:
I don't think that Aljazeera could be considered to be a right wing news
source.

http://tinyurl.com/p7yjadj

And CNN is certainly NOT a right wing news source.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/13/world/...ina-burqa-ban/

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




--
RGrew176

Nor the Huffington post...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/0...n_5551063.html


Get back to us when you find a legit article that states the PRC has banned
the Muslim religion.

--
Sent from my iPhone 6+

Get back to us when you can disprove the article RGrew posted


Are you channeling Herring now?

No

Oh, and it wasn't a news article...it
was a screed from a "convert" to Christianity. Remember reading about
the good old days, when Christianity forced non-believers to convert or
die?

No


Oh, so you are ignorant of those "Christian practices," too. Well, there
are plenty of examples.

So thousand-year-old Christian atrocities justify today's Muslim atrocities? You're a
joke, Krause.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


I didn't say or imply that, moron.

They're just thugs...
 

On 11/16/15 11:07 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 06:11:25 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Tim wrote:
On Monday, November 16, 2015 at 12:49:03 AM UTC-6, RGrew176 wrote:
I don't think that Aljazeera could be considered to be a right wing news
source.

http://tinyurl.com/p7yjadj

And CNN is certainly NOT a right wing news source.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/13/world/...ina-burqa-ban/

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




--
RGrew176

Nor the Huffington post...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/0...n_5551063.html


Get back to us when you find a legit article that states the PRC has banned
the Muslim religion.

I stand by my comment. They have the same attitude as you do. They
don't ban the religion they just do not want to ever see any public
display of it. It is a don't ask don't tell policy.


I don't have a problem with displays of religion on private property. I
don't even have a problem with the "National Christmas Tree" in downtown DC.

They're just thugs...
 

On 11/16/15 11:09 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 06:24:25 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 11/15/15 8:31 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 15 Nov 2015 19:26:27 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

I don't think it was a knee jerk at all. I believe most people
understand the chinese tolerate religion as long as it doesn't
threaten their idea of the general order or challenge the central
government.


Pretty much how it's supposed to work here.


I tend to agree with Harry that we may have tipped the other way too
far. When Democrats have to go to prayer breakfasts to get elected, we
may be letting the church run our life a tad too much and they have
destroyed the GOP.
On the other hand the Harry's of the world are pressing too hard not
to ever see any sign of the religions too.

When there is enough politically correct pressure that Starbucks can't
put a santa clause on a coffee cup, we have lost our way


I have no objections to reasonable religious practices "practiced" in
churches, homes, religious schools, et cetera, or even the occasional
"let us pray" nonsense that creeps into the non-church environment. My
objection to religion is when its proponents push it into the public
sector, when it attempts to pass laws that restrict those who believe
differently, when it insinuates itself into public schools, et cetera.

We could easily extend that complaint to a lot of left wing practices
like global warming hysteria.


Right, because it interferes with your Corporations Uber Alles beliefs.

They're just thugs...
 

On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 06:25:49 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 11/15/15 1:38 PM, wrote:

Harry admires the Chinese style commitment to the free exercise of
religion.


Nonsense.

You complain every time you see even the most casual references to
religion in public places. A christmas tree in the park seems to push
you over the edge and if, OMG they happen to mention Jesus somehow you
go ballistic. Strangely a reference to the festival of lights, not so
much.

They're just thugs...
 

On 11/16/15 11:13 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 06:25:49 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 11/15/15 1:38 PM, wrote:

Harry admires the Chinese style commitment to the free exercise of
religion.


Nonsense.

You complain every time you see even the most casual references to
religion in public places. A christmas tree in the park seems to push
you over the edge and if, OMG they happen to mention Jesus somehow you
go ballistic. Strangely a reference to the festival of lights, not so
much.


Not at all. I have no objection to the national or even local christmas
trees on display on public property, and have said so. The little town
down the road puts up christmas lights across the streets, and I enjoy
seeing them. Haven't seen many public chanukah displays.

As for that jewish fella, jesus, hell, that isn't even his name, if
there was such a person.

They're just thugs...
 

On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 08:01:19 -0500, John H.
wrote:

Those would be the practices the Muslims learned from Christians, right,
Johnnycakes? Because, as we all know, Christians engaged in these
practices before there was a Muslim religion and after the Muslim
religion came about. You know the old Christian battle cry, right? The
one that goes "Convert or die"?


So the killing, raping, beheading, etc. being practiced by Muslims now is OK, because
centuries ago Christians were doing it.

Harry only looks back when it is convenient to his point. He doesn't
want to talk about all of those New England sailors who were loading
black people on ships and bringing then to the new world for money,
abusing them below deck and throwing the dead or uncooperative ones
over the side. He doesn't even want to talk about the brand of
apartheid that is going on in the West bank

They're just thugs...
 

On Monday, 16 November 2015 11:25:10 UTC-4, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 08:50:10 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote:

On 11/16/2015 6:24 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
when it insinuates itself into public schools, et cetera.


Are you sure you are a writer, Krause?

I wonder why Donnie doesn't jump in to help you out? You sure could use
some assistance with your writing.

Donnie! Help!
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


Huh?? So, you're not happy harassing and piling on Harry eh?
Now you want to drag me into your little jihad?

They're just thugs...
 

- hide quoted text -
On 11/16/15 8:15 AM, Tim wrote:
Oh, so you are ignorant of those "Christian practices," too. Well, there
are plenty of examples.
........

Do I remember?

Harry I wasn't born then...


Never heard or read about them, eh?
Figures.
-------
Figures what? Of course I've 'read' and 'heard' but you said 'remember'
You don't 'remember' either unless you're 700 years old and rode into the Byzantine empire with the Francs.

They're just thugs...
 

On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 10:42:21 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:


Whew. For a minute there I thought you were going to blame it on GWB.



He's got enough blame on his plate. :)

Fortunately for him, he is not running for anything so the focus is on
Hillary's plate right now. Bernie is not going to let us forget he was
always against the war, not just after it imploded on us.

They're just thugs...
 

On 11/16/2015 11:13 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 06:25:49 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 11/15/15 1:38 PM, wrote:

Harry admires the Chinese style commitment to the free exercise of
religion.


Nonsense.

You complain every time you see even the most casual references to
religion in public places. A christmas tree in the park seems to push
you over the edge and if, OMG they happen to mention Jesus somehow you
go ballistic. Strangely a reference to the festival of lights, not so
much.


Yabut, Harry's "Scoodge-ness" usually abates for a while as we enter
into the holiday season. He'll be back in normal form in January. :-)

They're just thugs...
 

On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 11:10:38 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:


Actually, he spoke about building up coalitions and he also mentioned
the French request to invoke the NATO defense clause, which would
require all nations to participate.

This is simply trying to use early 20th century logic and mid 20th
century institutions to fight a 21st century problem. NATO was
designed to combat a ground invasion from the Soviets and has very
little to do with fighting a "war" that has no "front". Whackamole is
the best description and bombing ISIS to stop international terrorism
is about as effective as bombing Nigeria to stop internet fraud,

They're just thugs...
 

On 11/16/2015 10:26 AM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 08:56:13 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote:

On 11/16/2015 6:25 AM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, November 16, 2015 at 5:11:28 AM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Monday, November 16, 2015 at 12:49:03 AM UTC-6, RGrew176 wrote:
I don't think that Aljazeera could be considered to be a right wing news
source.

http://tinyurl.com/p7yjadj

And CNN is certainly NOT a right wing news source.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/13/world/...ina-burqa-ban/

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




--
RGrew176

Nor the Huffington post...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/0...n_5551063.html


Get back to us when you find a legit article that states the PRC has banned
the Muslim religion.

--
Sent from my iPhone 6+

Get back to us when you can disprove the article RGrew posted


The only things he could prove are that he neglects to pay his taxes and
other financial obligations. Those are a matter of public record. He
can't even prove that he's married to the lovely Ms Grear, or that he
has any financial interest in her home. Harry is a leech, liar, and
layabout. Why do you bother to engage him?

Well, uncovering lies is kinda fun, you know.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

Do you think I don't know that? Sheeesh....

They're just thugs...
 

Keyser Söze wrote:
On 11/16/15 6:25 AM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, November 16, 2015 at 5:11:28 AM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Monday, November 16, 2015 at 12:49:03 AM UTC-6, RGrew176 wrote:
I don't think that Aljazeera could be considered to be a right wing news
source.

http://tinyurl.com/p7yjadj

And CNN is certainly NOT a right wing news source.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/13/world/...ina-burqa-ban/

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




--
RGrew176

Nor the Huffington post...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/0...n_5551063.html


Get back to us when you find a legit article that states the PRC has banned
the Muslim religion.

--
Sent from my iPhone 6+

Get back to us when you can disprove the article RGrew posted


Are you channeling Herring now? Oh, and it wasn't a news article...it
was a screed from a "convert" to Christianity. Remember reading about
the good old days, when Christianity forced non-believers to convert or
die?


Sounds like present day Muslim's. Convert or die.

They're just thugs...
 

Keyser Söze wrote:
On 11/16/15 10:28 AM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 09:07:54 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 11/16/2015 7:48 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 11/16/15 7:02 AM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 06:24:25 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 11/15/15 8:31 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 15 Nov 2015 19:26:27 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

I don't think it was a knee jerk at all. I believe most people
understand the chinese tolerate religion as long as it doesn't
threaten their idea of the general order or challenge the central
government.


Pretty much how it's supposed to work here.


I tend to agree with Harry that we may have tipped the other way too
far. When Democrats have to go to prayer breakfasts to get elected, we
may be letting the church run our life a tad too much and they have
destroyed the GOP.
On the other hand the Harry's of the world are pressing too hard not
to ever see any sign of the religions too.

When there is enough politically correct pressure that Starbucks can't
put a santa clause on a coffee cup, we have lost our way


I have no objections to reasonable religious practices "practiced" in
churches, homes, religious schools, et cetera, or even the occasional
"let us pray" nonsense that creeps into the non-church environment. My
objection to religion is when its proponents push it into the public
sector, when it attempts to pass laws that restrict those who believe
differently, when it insinuates itself into public schools, et cetera.

Unless it's Islam, correct? Then the pushing, beheading, raping,
killing, and other
public 'practices' are OK, eh Krause?
--


Those would be the practices the Muslims learned from Christians, right,
Johnnycakes? Because, as we all know, Christians engaged in these
practices before there was a Muslim religion and after the Muslim
religion came about. You know the old Christian battle cry, right? The
one that goes "Convert or die"?

My primary concern about the evils of religious-osity is how it is
practiced in *this* country. In this country, it is mostly Christian
extremists who push their superstitious and ignorant beliefs onto the
public outside of churches, homes, religious schools, et cetera.




Whew. For a minute there I thought you were going to blame it on GWB.


In his mind there's nothing to blame. The actions of today's extremist Muslims are,
using Krauselogic, totally justified by the actions of Christians a thousand years
ago.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!



In your mind, well, there's nothing there.


I think 610 when Mohammed got his message is before most of the extremes of
Christianity occurred.

They're just thugs...
 

On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 11:13:36 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 11/16/15 11:09 AM, wrote:

We could easily extend that complaint to a lot of left wing practices
like global warming hysteria.


Right, because it interferes with your Corporations Uber Alles beliefs.

No. Because it is an irrational response to a problem that we still
have not really come up with a reasonable plan for. If this is CO2,
that is more of a population problem than an oil problem but the
people who hate oil jumped on the bandwagon when they saw an
opportunity. 40 years ago the problem was the smog producing gasses
that came out of tail pipes. We fixed that and most exhaust gas is CO2
and water vapor now ... so CO2 was next.

Without cutting way back on all forms of agriculture and eliminating
farm animals, you are never going to make a dent in greenhouse gas but
that is not a politically viable solution so they go after the low
fruit, the evil oil company.

They're just thugs...
 

On 11/16/2015 11:45 AM, True North wrote:
On Monday, 16 November 2015 11:25:10 UTC-4, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 08:50:10 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote:

On 11/16/2015 6:24 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
when it insinuates itself into public schools, et cetera.


Are you sure you are a writer, Krause?

I wonder why Donnie doesn't jump in to help you out? You sure could use
some assistance with your writing.

Donnie! Help!
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


Huh?? So, you're not happy harassing and piling on Harry eh?
Now you want to drag me into your little jihad?


Are you going to abandon your buddie in his time of need?

They're just thugs...
 

On 11/16/15 8:01 AM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 07:48:08 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 11/16/15 7:02 AM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 06:24:25 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 11/15/15 8:31 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 15 Nov 2015 19:26:27 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

I don't think it was a knee jerk at all. I believe most people
understand the chinese tolerate religion as long as it doesn't
threaten their idea of the general order or challenge the central
government.


Pretty much how it's supposed to work here.


I tend to agree with Harry that we may have tipped the other way too
far. When Democrats have to go to prayer breakfasts to get elected, we
may be letting the church run our life a tad too much and they have
destroyed the GOP.
On the other hand the Harry's of the world are pressing too hard not
to ever see any sign of the religions too.

When there is enough politically correct pressure that Starbucks can't
put a santa clause on a coffee cup, we have lost our way


I have no objections to reasonable religious practices "practiced" in
churches, homes, religious schools, et cetera, or even the occasional
"let us pray" nonsense that creeps into the non-church environment. My
objection to religion is when its proponents push it into the public
sector, when it attempts to pass laws that restrict those who believe
differently, when it insinuates itself into public schools, et cetera.

Unless it's Islam, correct? Then the pushing, beheading, raping, killing, and other
public 'practices' are OK, eh Krause?
--


Those would be the practices the Muslims learned from Christians, right,
Johnnycakes? Because, as we all know, Christians engaged in these
practices before there was a Muslim religion and after the Muslim
religion came about. You know the old Christian battle cry, right? The
one that goes "Convert or die"?


So the killing, raping, beheading, etc. being practiced by Muslims now is OK, because
centuries ago Christians were doing it.

That's Krause logic, eh? WADumFoch!

My primary concern about the evils of religious-osity is how it is
practiced in *this* country. In this country, it is mostly Christian
extremists who push their superstitious and ignorant beliefs onto the
public outside of churches, homes, religious schools, et cetera.


But it's OK for Muslims to push their belief in public, eh? You're a joke, Krause!
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


If you were capable of thinking, you'd know I've never said or implied
any such thing. There should be a "kiddie table" here for you and your
buddies, who seem determined to prove your stupidity over and again.

They're just thugs...
 

On 11/16/15 11:24 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 08:01:19 -0500, John H.
wrote:

Those would be the practices the Muslims learned from Christians, right,
Johnnycakes? Because, as we all know, Christians engaged in these
practices before there was a Muslim religion and after the Muslim
religion came about. You know the old Christian battle cry, right? The
one that goes "Convert or die"?


So the killing, raping, beheading, etc. being practiced by Muslims now is OK, because
centuries ago Christians were doing it.

Harry only looks back when it is convenient to his point. He doesn't
want to talk about all of those New England sailors who were loading
black people on ships and bringing then to the new world for money,
abusing them below deck and throwing the dead or uncooperative ones
over the side. He doesn't even want to talk about the brand of
apartheid that is going on in the West bank


I don't recall your leading a discussion on the importation of slaves to
this country. Were those New Englanders Muslims? :)

The so-called Palestinians have had many opportunities for peace. They
don't want it.

They're just thugs...
 

On 11/16/15 11:45 AM, True North wrote:
On Monday, 16 November 2015 11:25:10 UTC-4, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 08:50:10 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote:

On 11/16/2015 6:24 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
when it insinuates itself into public schools, et cetera.


Are you sure you are a writer, Krause?

I wonder why Donnie doesn't jump in to help you out? You sure could use
some assistance with your writing.

Donnie! Help!
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


Huh?? So, you're not happy harassing and piling on Harry eh?
Now you want to drag me into your little jihad?



Herring, FlaJim, and the two Scotties are easily the dumbest posters in
rec.bloats.

They're just thugs...
 

On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 11:22:18 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Haven't seen many public chanukah displays.

Strange, you must really live in an anti semitic place. They are
around here, generally just a Menorah but it appears that nobody
understand when you light the candles. They put them up with all
lights lit. Occasionally they even use multicolored bulbs.
Oy vey!


As for that jewish fella, jesus, hell, that isn't even his name, if
there was such a person.

Dunno, I would not be shocked if it was just a generic reference to a
number of evangelical Jews who were killed by the Romans.
I do understand very little of the new testiment actually dates to the
first decade AD.

There is still a lot wisdom in the writings, I just don't have any
brand loyalty.

They're just thugs...
 

On 11/16/15 12:52 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 11/16/15 6:25 AM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, November 16, 2015 at 5:11:28 AM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Monday, November 16, 2015 at 12:49:03 AM UTC-6, RGrew176 wrote:
I don't think that Aljazeera could be considered to be a right wing news
source.

http://tinyurl.com/p7yjadj

And CNN is certainly NOT a right wing news source.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/13/world/...ina-burqa-ban/

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




--
RGrew176

Nor the Huffington post...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/0...n_5551063.html


Get back to us when you find a legit article that states the PRC has banned
the Muslim religion.

--
Sent from my iPhone 6+

Get back to us when you can disprove the article RGrew posted


Are you channeling Herring now? Oh, and it wasn't a news article...it
was a screed from a "convert" to Christianity. Remember reading about
the good old days, when Christianity forced non-believers to convert or
die?


Sounds like present day Muslim's. Convert or die.


Sounds like the Muslims learned it from the Christians...convert or die.

They're just thugs...
 

On 11/16/15 1:02 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 11/16/15 10:28 AM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 09:07:54 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 11/16/2015 7:48 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 11/16/15 7:02 AM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 06:24:25 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 11/15/15 8:31 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 15 Nov 2015 19:26:27 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

I don't think it was a knee jerk at all. I believe most people
understand the chinese tolerate religion as long as it doesn't
threaten their idea of the general order or challenge the central
government.


Pretty much how it's supposed to work here.


I tend to agree with Harry that we may have tipped the other way too
far. When Democrats have to go to prayer breakfasts to get elected, we
may be letting the church run our life a tad too much and they have
destroyed the GOP.
On the other hand the Harry's of the world are pressing too hard not
to ever see any sign of the religions too.

When there is enough politically correct pressure that Starbucks can't
put a santa clause on a coffee cup, we have lost our way


I have no objections to reasonable religious practices "practiced" in
churches, homes, religious schools, et cetera, or even the occasional
"let us pray" nonsense that creeps into the non-church environment. My
objection to religion is when its proponents push it into the public
sector, when it attempts to pass laws that restrict those who believe
differently, when it insinuates itself into public schools, et cetera.

Unless it's Islam, correct? Then the pushing, beheading, raping,
killing, and other
public 'practices' are OK, eh Krause?
--


Those would be the practices the Muslims learned from Christians, right,
Johnnycakes? Because, as we all know, Christians engaged in these
practices before there was a Muslim religion and after the Muslim
religion came about. You know the old Christian battle cry, right? The
one that goes "Convert or die"?

My primary concern about the evils of religious-osity is how it is
practiced in *this* country. In this country, it is mostly Christian
extremists who push their superstitious and ignorant beliefs onto the
public outside of churches, homes, religious schools, et cetera.




Whew. For a minute there I thought you were going to blame it on GWB.


In his mind there's nothing to blame. The actions of today's extremist Muslims are,
using Krauselogic, totally justified by the actions of Christians a thousand years
ago.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!



In your mind, well, there's nothing there.


I think 610 when Mohammed got his message is before most of the extremes of
Christianity occurred.


I think your knowledge of "Christianity" is lacking.

They're just thugs...
 

On 11/16/15 1:10 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 11:22:18 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Haven't seen many public chanukah displays.

Strange, you must really live in an anti semitic place. They are
around here, generally just a Menorah but it appears that nobody
understand when you light the candles. They put them up with all
lights lit. Occasionally they even use multicolored bulbs.
Oy vey!


As for that jewish fella, jesus, hell, that isn't even his name, if
there was such a person.

Dunno, I would not be shocked if it was just a generic reference to a
number of evangelical Jews who were killed by the Romans.
I do understand very little of the new testiment actually dates to the
first decade AD.

There is still a lot wisdom in the writings, I just don't have any
brand loyalty.


I've not noticed any menorahs or synagogues around here. Plenty in
Montgomery County and over in Fairfax, of course. Several of the doctors
in the PPO I use are Jewish, but I think they live in the Annapolis area.

They're just thugs...
 

On 11/16/2015 1:07 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 11/16/15 11:45 AM, True North wrote:
On Monday, 16 November 2015 11:25:10 UTC-4, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 08:50:10 -0500, Justan Olphart
wrote:

On 11/16/2015 6:24 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
when it insinuates itself into public schools, et cetera.


Are you sure you are a writer, Krause?

I wonder why Donnie doesn't jump in to help you out? You sure could use
some assistance with your writing.

Donnie! Help!
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


Huh?? So, you're not happy harassing and piling on Harry eh?
Now you want to drag me into your little jihad?



Herring, FlaJim, and the two Scotties are easily the dumbest posters in
rec.bloats.

One of the Scotties, the one you fear, seems to have called it quits
with rec.boats. I hope he's allright.

They're just thugs...
 

On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 13:06:31 -0500, Justan Olphart
wrote:

I haven't turned on the TV yet today but I am not really sure what we
should "do".
Bombing ISIS in Syria is not going to do much if these guys in France
were directed from Libya or any of the other places around the region
where they pop up. This is the internet jihad. They could have
actually been planning this from a lap top in a Paris cafe.


Or at the WTC eh?

The WTC attack (9-11) was planned in Germany, we attacked Afghanistan
and kept attacking them for 14 years after OBL had left.

The first WTC attack was planned and the bomb was built in New Jersey
(maybe we should bomb them)

They are saying one of the main guys in the Paris raid is a Belgian
born, French national.

The problem with just "bombing the **** out of them" is that most of
the people we kill are not jihadis but the survivors become jihadis
with a grudge against the people who killed their friends and
relatives.

They're just thugs...
 

On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 13:07:14 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 11/16/15 11:24 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 08:01:19 -0500, John H.
wrote:

Those would be the practices the Muslims learned from Christians, right,
Johnnycakes? Because, as we all know, Christians engaged in these
practices before there was a Muslim religion and after the Muslim
religion came about. You know the old Christian battle cry, right? The
one that goes "Convert or die"?


So the killing, raping, beheading, etc. being practiced by Muslims now is OK, because
centuries ago Christians were doing it.

Harry only looks back when it is convenient to his point. He doesn't
want to talk about all of those New England sailors who were loading
black people on ships and bringing then to the new world for money,
abusing them below deck and throwing the dead or uncooperative ones
over the side. He doesn't even want to talk about the brand of
apartheid that is going on in the West bank


I don't recall your leading a discussion on the importation of slaves to
this country. Were those New Englanders Muslims? :)

The so-called Palestinians have had many opportunities for peace. They
don't want it.

They would say they have not been offered any reasonable terms and the
offers are not in good faith.

They're just thugs...
 

On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 13:09:15 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:


What's your idea for getting ISIS out of Syria, preventing its return,
and preventing it from setting up somewhere else?

ISIS is already in Yemen and Libya so that boat sailed.
This is quickly becoming an internet driven ideology, not a place.
Their encryption is good enough that most governments are not going to
crack it in anywhere near real time. If they used "coded" as opposed
to encrypted messages, it is really hard to do anything no matter
what.

These days, computers can actually make the "one time pad" style
encryption easy to do and that is totally uncrackable. It does require
the sender and receiver have the same "key" and the key is as long as
the message but it could easily be a jpeg picture or an MP3 file,
easily carried or simply downloaded from the net without any
suspicion.

They're just thugs...
 

On 11/16/2015 2:06 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 13:06:31 -0500, Justan Olphart
wrote:

I haven't turned on the TV yet today but I am not really sure what we
should "do".
Bombing ISIS in Syria is not going to do much if these guys in France
were directed from Libya or any of the other places around the region
where they pop up. This is the internet jihad. They could have
actually been planning this from a lap top in a Paris cafe.


Or at the WTC eh?

The WTC attack (9-11) was planned in Germany, we attacked Afghanistan
and kept attacking them for 14 years after OBL had left.

The first WTC attack was planned and the bomb was built in New Jersey
(maybe we should bomb them)

They are saying one of the main guys in the Paris raid is a Belgian
born, French national.

The problem with just "bombing the **** out of them" is that most of
the people we kill are not jihadis but the survivors become jihadis
with a grudge against the people who killed their friends and
relatives.


They have pledged that they won't stop till they kill the last of the
infidels. We better get busy killing them lest they accomplish their goal.

They're just thugs...
 

Keyser Söze wrote:
On 11/16/15 11:45 AM, True North wrote:
On Monday, 16 November 2015 11:25:10 UTC-4, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 08:50:10 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote:

On 11/16/2015 6:24 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
when it insinuates itself into public schools, et cetera.


Are you sure you are a writer, Krause?

I wonder why Donnie doesn't jump in to help you out? You sure could use
some assistance with your writing.

Donnie! Help!
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


Huh?? So, you're not happy harassing and piling on Harry eh?
Now you want to drag me into your little jihad?



Herring, FlaJim, and the two Scotties are easily the dumbest posters in
rec.bloats.


You forgot FOAD.

They're just thugs...
 

Keyser Söze wrote:
On 11/16/15 12:52 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 11/16/15 6:25 AM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, November 16, 2015 at 5:11:28 AM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Monday, November 16, 2015 at 12:49:03 AM UTC-6, RGrew176 wrote:
I don't think that Aljazeera could be considered to be a right wing news
source.

http://tinyurl.com/p7yjadj

And CNN is certainly NOT a right wing news source.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/13/world/...ina-burqa-ban/

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




--
RGrew176

Nor the Huffington post...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/0...n_5551063.html


Get back to us when you find a legit article that states the PRC has banned
the Muslim religion.

--
Sent from my iPhone 6+

Get back to us when you can disprove the article RGrew posted


Are you channeling Herring now? Oh, and it wasn't a news article...it
was a screed from a "convert" to Christianity. Remember reading about
the good old days, when Christianity forced non-believers to convert or
die?


Sounds like present day Muslim's. Convert or die.


Sounds like the Muslims learned it from the Christians...convert or die.


Actually was both Mohammed and Ghengis Khan who spread their message via
convert, or do what I say or die.

They're just thugs...
 

Keyser Söze wrote:
On 11/16/15 1:02 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 11/16/15 10:28 AM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 09:07:54 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 11/16/2015 7:48 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 11/16/15 7:02 AM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 06:24:25 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 11/15/15 8:31 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 15 Nov 2015 19:26:27 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

I don't think it was a knee jerk at all. I believe most people
understand the chinese tolerate religion as long as it doesn't
threaten their idea of the general order or challenge the central
government.


Pretty much how it's supposed to work here.


I tend to agree with Harry that we may have tipped the other way too
far. When Democrats have to go to prayer breakfasts to get elected, we
may be letting the church run our life a tad too much and they have
destroyed the GOP.
On the other hand the Harry's of the world are pressing too hard not
to ever see any sign of the religions too.

When there is enough politically correct pressure that Starbucks can't
put a santa clause on a coffee cup, we have lost our way


I have no objections to reasonable religious practices "practiced" in
churches, homes, religious schools, et cetera, or even the occasional
"let us pray" nonsense that creeps into the non-church environment. My
objection to religion is when its proponents push it into the public
sector, when it attempts to pass laws that restrict those who believe
differently, when it insinuates itself into public schools, et cetera.

Unless it's Islam, correct? Then the pushing, beheading, raping,
killing, and other
public 'practices' are OK, eh Krause?
--


Those would be the practices the Muslims learned from Christians, right,
Johnnycakes? Because, as we all know, Christians engaged in these
practices before there was a Muslim religion and after the Muslim
religion came about. You know the old Christian battle cry, right? The
one that goes "Convert or die"?

My primary concern about the evils of religious-osity is how it is
practiced in *this* country. In this country, it is mostly Christian
extremists who push their superstitious and ignorant beliefs onto the
public outside of churches, homes, religious schools, et cetera.




Whew. For a minute there I thought you were going to blame it on GWB.


In his mind there's nothing to blame. The actions of today's extremist Muslims are,
using Krauselogic, totally justified by the actions of Christians a thousand years
ago.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!



In your mind, well, there's nothing there.


I think 610 when Mohammed got his message is before most of the extremes of
Christianity occurred.


I think your knowledge of "Christianity" is lacking.


Most of the Christian excesses were later than 610. The Inquisition, th
which finder, etc.

They're just thugs...
 

wrote:
On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 13:06:31 -0500, Justan Olphart
wrote:

I haven't turned on the TV yet today but I am not really sure what we
should "do".
Bombing ISIS in Syria is not going to do much if these guys in France
were directed from Libya or any of the other places around the region
where they pop up. This is the internet jihad. They could have
actually been planning this from a lap top in a Paris cafe.


Or at the WTC eh?

The WTC attack (9-11) was planned in Germany, we attacked Afghanistan
and kept attacking them for 14 years after OBL had left.

The first WTC attack was planned and the bomb was built in New Jersey
(maybe we should bomb them)

They are saying one of the main guys in the Paris raid is a Belgian
born, French national.

The problem with just "bombing the **** out of them" is that most of
the people we kill are not jihadis but the survivors become jihadis
with a grudge against the people who killed their friends and
relatives.




Probably the best thing would be to stop all travel from the Middle East.
Buy their oil, and pull every westerner out. Then let them kill each
other. Maybe spray LSD over the region. Maybe if they are crazy, will
make them normal. ;)