They're just thugs...
 

On 11/14/2015 11:09 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 07:52:32 -0500, Justan Olphart
wrote:

We still owe them for 9-11.

Owe who? The Saudis?

The guys with the intel don't consult with me.

They're just thugs...
 

On 11/14/2015 12:21 PM, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 11/14/2015 11:09 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 07:52:32 -0500, Justan Olphart
wrote:

We still owe them for 9-11.

Owe who? The Saudis?

The guys with the intel don't consult with me.


Give Ben Carson a call.

They're just thugs...
 

True North wrote:
Kalif Swill's...

"And our leaders want to let in 50,000 "refugees ". "


Drop in the bucket. Our new Prime Minister pledged to bring in 25,000 by
the end of the year whether we're ready or not.
At that rate you should be bringing that many into Kalifornia alone.


Why?

They're just thugs...
 

On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 10:43:58 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 11/14/15 8:31 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

No. A response is dependent on good intel as to where the "brains"
(command and control) exist and take them out. If it happens to be
in Syria, so be it.


I don't disagree, but it doesn't seem to solve the problem with this
terrorists. As soon as our drones or brave troops cut off one terrorist
head, so to speak, there are others that pop right out to take his
place. The tactic hasn't worked for us in Iraq or Syria, and it hasn't
worked for the Israelis.

I agree. This is like running over cactus with a lawn mower or cutting
up star fish and throwing them back overboard.

They're just thugs...
 

On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 11:48:49 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 11/14/15 10:58 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 07:09:49 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 11/14/15 12:29 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 17:59:09 -0800, Califbill billnews wrote:

Keyser Söze wrote:
John H. wrote:
...or juvenile delinquents.

Maybe the threat will be taken seriously.

And, doesn't France have some very stringent gun control laws? Shame someone in the
concert wasn't carrying.

French borders closed. Should tell us something.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


This isn't the time for your right wing insanity.


Maybe not time for left wing insanity. Let a bunch of "refugees" from
Syria, etc. in?

France is lousy with militant muslims. It has been that way for a
while, certainly since the 50s when they had their "Algerian" problem.
Things are just heating up.
I think we ain't seen nothin yet. These terrorists have infiltrated
most of western Europe, hidden in with the refugees.


Other than our deserting Israel, what's your Libertarian idea for
handing ISIS?

Let Putin do it. The only reason any of those groups threaten us is
because we are bombing them.


A. The Russians are no better at shutting down terrorists in
underdeveloped countries than we are and in its own way, Syria is as
underdeveloped as Afghanistan.

B. Oh, there's a lot more to it than that.

The point is, if Putin wants to try this, let him go for it. The
effort is going to be futile but I would rather get a big bag of
popcorn and watch, than to join the insanity.

There is a good case to be made that if we had not let Charlie Wilson
get us into the business of arming the Afghans, there might not have
been an Osama Bin Laden and if we had not established bases in Saudi
Arabia to bomb other muslims, they would not have attacked us at all.
I am still not sure why Saddam was our problem, in Kuwait or Iraq.

It seems like we are just the hired gun for the Saudis and they thank
us by flying planes into the WTC and Pentagon. Now we are fighting
Assad for them undoubtedly ****ing off Sunni and Shia terrorists alike

They're just thugs...
 

On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 11:50:20 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 11/14/15 11:07 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 07:50:24 -0500, Justan Olphart
wrote:

On 11/14/2015 7:09 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:


Other than our deserting Israel, what's your Libertarian idea for
handing ISIS?

Trump has a plan. Bomb the **** out of them, Vote Trump. Or let Hillary
deal with it in her own mysterious ways. Snerk!

Hillary will bomb the **** out of them too. The democrats love
standoff wars where they can kill people with little danger to the
killers themselves ... until the friends of the dead come here and
kill us.



If you want World War III, vote Trump.

I saw Mike Steele on Maher today and he looks like a better candidate
than anyone running in either party

They're just thugs...
 

On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 09:58:04 -0800, Califbill billnews wrote:

True North wrote:
Kalif Swill's...

"And our leaders want to let in 50,000 "refugees ". "


Drop in the bucket. Our new Prime Minister pledged to bring in 25,000 by
the end of the year whether we're ready or not.
At that rate you should be bringing that many into Kalifornia alone.


Why?

Lets see if that policy gets tuned up a little now.

They're just thugs...
 

On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 12:16:40 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

At this point I think WW III is inevitable. Just a matter of time.
Russia and maybe even China may end up being allies.

I am not sure China really cares about this because they don't seem to
have a muslim problem. They have sense enough not to have "made in
China" bomb fragments in the rubble.
The idea that we would partner up with the russians to kill several
million muslims is not totally off the wall tho. They have far worse
islamic terrorism problems than we do and it is right on their
borders, not across an ocean.
I doubt it would actually accomplish much tho.

They're just thugs...
 

On 11/14/2015 12:31 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/14/2015 12:21 PM, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 11/14/2015 11:09 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 07:52:32 -0500, Justan Olphart
wrote:

We still owe them for 9-11.

Owe who? The Saudis?

The guys with the intel don't consult with me.


Give Ben Carson a call.

Right.

They're just thugs...
 

On 11/14/2015 12:58 PM, Califbill wrote:
True North wrote:
Kalif Swill's...

"And our leaders want to let in 50,000 "refugees "."


Drop in the bucket. Our new Prime Minister pledged to bring in 25,000 by
the end of the year whether we're ready or not.
At that rate you should be bringing that many into Kalifornia alone.


Why?

Would you jump off a bridge because a kanuckie did? Of course not.

They're just thugs...
 

On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 12:31:13 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 11/14/2015 12:21 PM, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 11/14/2015 11:09 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 07:52:32 -0500, Justan Olphart
wrote:

We still owe them for 9-11.

Owe who? The Saudis?

The guys with the intel don't consult with me.


Give Ben Carson a call.

It is close to his spaciality except these people are two religions
joined at the asshole.

They're just thugs...
 

On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 07:53:02 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 11/14/2015 7:35 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 07:29:05 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 11/14/2015 7:09 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 11/14/15 12:29 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 17:59:09 -0800, Califbill billnews wrote:

Keyser Söze wrote:
John H. wrote:
...or juvenile delinquents.

Maybe the threat will be taken seriously.

And, doesn't France have some very stringent gun control laws?
Shame someone in the
concert wasn't carrying.

French borders closed. Should tell us something.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


This isn't the time for your right wing insanity.


Maybe not time for left wing insanity. Let a bunch of "refugees" from
Syria, etc. in?

France is lousy with militant muslims. It has been that way for a
while, certainly since the 50s when they had their "Algerian" problem.
Things are just heating up.
I think we ain't seen nothin yet. These terrorists have infiltrated
most of western Europe, hidden in with the refugees.


Other than our deserting Israel, what's your Libertarian idea for
handing ISIS?


Don't know what Greg will say, but here's my suggestion:

Honor all formal agreements we have with our allies
and expect them to honor the agreements in return.

Think twice about what kind and who we sign any new agreements with.

Let non-allies, including those nations that are predominately
Muslim deal with Islamic fundamentalist movements like ISIS on their own.

The only reason we are involved is because we stick our nose where
it doesn't belong and we have little or no understanding of what
motivates the different, religious based Islamic followers.

If they attack us ... or any of our allies ... fight back hard, but
otherwise mind our own business.

If you are a journalist or world do-gooder and value your life, stay
the hell out of the areas of the world being controlled by the likes
of ISIS. Otherwise, don't expect your government to come and save your
ass or expect retaliation because you got killed.



I'd add 'keep control of your borders'.

How? Build the Great Trump Wall with the *huge*, "Beautiful" gate in
the middle for "legal" immigrants?

To parrot your solution for just about all the problems we have:

"Enforce existing laws".


Agreed. And put the resources there to do it. I'll bet a couple thousand more border
patrol, doing their job, would pay off in the long run. How much tax money goes to
the illegals here?
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

They're just thugs...
 

On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 07:41:13 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote:

On 11/13/2015 11:13 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
Califbill billnews wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
John H. wrote:
...or juvenile delinquents.

Maybe the threat will be taken seriously.

And, doesn't France have some very stringent gun control laws? Shame someone in the
concert wasn't carrying.

French borders closed. Should tell us something.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


This isn't the time for your right wing insanity.


Maybe not time for left wing insanity. Let a bunch of "refugees" from
Syria, etc. in?



Do you suppose johnnymop carries his pistol on his daily trip to Walmart?


Do you supposed you may have to carry your firearms with you?

Harry has stated that he packs heat while he's in the Shenandoah. Why,
you ask? He stated that he carries because he's afraid a stray dog might
attack him.

Harry, WAFJ!
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

They're just thugs...
 

On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 14:05:24 -0500, wrote:

On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 12:16:40 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

At this point I think WW III is inevitable. Just a matter of time.
Russia and maybe even China may end up being allies.

I am not sure China really cares about this because they don't seem to
have a muslim problem. They have sense enough not to have "made in
China" bomb fragments in the rubble.
The idea that we would partner up with the russians to kill several
million muslims is not totally off the wall tho. They have far worse
islamic terrorism problems than we do and it is right on their
borders, not across an ocean.
I doubt it would actually accomplish much tho.

I don't think Muslims are a threat to China either. Russia and China pose a threat to
us.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

They're just thugs...
 

On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 08:14:05 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 11/14/2015 7:52 AM, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 11/14/2015 7:29 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/14/2015 7:09 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 11/14/15 12:29 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 17:59:09 -0800, Califbill billnews wrote:

Keyser Söze wrote:
John H. wrote:
...or juvenile delinquents.

Maybe the threat will be taken seriously.

And, doesn't France have some very stringent gun control laws?
Shame someone in the
concert wasn't carrying.

French borders closed. Should tell us something.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


This isn't the time for your right wing insanity.


Maybe not time for left wing insanity. Let a bunch of "refugees" from
Syria, etc. in?

France is lousy with militant muslims. It has been that way for a
while, certainly since the 50s when they had their "Algerian" problem.
Things are just heating up.
I think we ain't seen nothin yet. These terrorists have infiltrated
most of western Europe, hidden in with the refugees.


Other than our deserting Israel, what's your Libertarian idea for
handing ISIS?


Don't know what Greg will say, but here's my suggestion:

Honor all formal agreements we have with our allies
and expect them to honor the agreements in return.

Think twice about what kind and who we sign any new agreements with.

Let non-allies, including those nations that are predominately
Muslim deal with Islamic fundamentalist movements like ISIS on their own.

The only reason we are involved is because we stick our nose where
it doesn't belong and we have little or no understanding of what
motivates the different, religious based Islamic followers.

If they attack us ... or any of our allies ... fight back hard, but
otherwise mind our own business.

If you are a journalist or world do-gooder and value your life, stay
the hell out of the areas of the world being controlled by the likes
of ISIS. Otherwise, don't expect your government to come and save your
ass or expect retaliation because you got killed.






We still owe them for 9-11.

9/11 wasn't orchestrated by ISIS. bin Laden is dead and you don't hear
much about al Qaeda anymore. In fact, what remains of al Qaeda is at
odds with ISIS.

We've been meddling in the middle east for decades, going back to Reagan
and probably before. Isn't it time we realized it's a different
culture that we can't fully understand and we can't force *our* way upon
them?


The problem is no longer just in the Middle East.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

They're just thugs...
 

On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 08:25:19 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 11/14/15 7:34 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 07:10:47 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 11/14/15 7:00 AM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 21:03:47 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

Califbill billnews wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
John H. wrote:
...or juvenile delinquents.

Maybe the threat will be taken seriously.

And, doesn't France have some very stringent gun control laws? Shame someone in the
concert wasn't carrying.

French borders closed. Should tell us something.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


This isn't the time for your right wing insanity.


Maybe not time for left wing insanity. Let a bunch of "refugees" from
Syria, etc. in?



Do you suppose johnnymop carries his pistol on his daily trip to Walmart?

Does that have something to do with what happened in France?

Your comments are as stupid as Don's.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


"Shame someone in the concert wasn't carrying"

Do you carry on your daily trips to Walmart?

Do you share Don's penchant for stupid comments?
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


You're the one who is suggesting that looser gun control laws would
allow more people to carry. You live in a loose gun control state. Do
you carry when you visit Walmart?

If Muslims begin shooting up our malls, theaters, WalMarts, etc., you damn right I'll
be carrying when I go to WalMart.

This is not the first attack that has taken place in France.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

They're just thugs...
 

On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 10:58:36 -0500, wrote:

On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 07:09:49 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 11/14/15 12:29 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 17:59:09 -0800, Califbill billnews wrote:

Keyser Söze wrote:
John H. wrote:
...or juvenile delinquents.

Maybe the threat will be taken seriously.

And, doesn't France have some very stringent gun control laws? Shame someone in the
concert wasn't carrying.

French borders closed. Should tell us something.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


This isn't the time for your right wing insanity.


Maybe not time for left wing insanity. Let a bunch of "refugees" from
Syria, etc. in?

France is lousy with militant muslims. It has been that way for a
while, certainly since the 50s when they had their "Algerian" problem.
Things are just heating up.
I think we ain't seen nothin yet. These terrorists have infiltrated
most of western Europe, hidden in with the refugees.


Other than our deserting Israel, what's your Libertarian idea for
handing ISIS?

Let Putin do it. The only reason any of those groups threaten us is
because we are bombing them.

It has nothing to do with our choice of religion?
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

They're just thugs...
 

On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 09:14:00 -0800 (PST), True North wrote:

Kalif Swill's...

"And our leaders want to let in 50,000 "refugees ". "


Drop in the bucket. Our new Prime Minister pledged to bring in 25,000 by the end of the year whether we're ready or not.
At that rate you should be bringing that many into Kalifornia alone.

How many of the 'refugees' are ISIS with stolen passports? How many ISIS terrorists
just made the hits in France? Maybe a dozen? In other words, a miniscule drop in the
bucket can cause tremendous problems.

Perhaps your prime minister exercises the same level of stupidity as ...
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

They're just thugs...
 

On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 09:17:17 -0800 (PST), True North wrote:

John H.
- show quoted text -
"Does that have something to do with what happened in France?

Your comments are as stupid as Don's."



My, my.....you seem to be constipated with your rancor JohnnyMop. Can I recommend a good laxative?

I'm sure you're an expert. Weren't you putting Prep H on your head here a while back?
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

They're just thugs...
 

On 11/14/15 4:15 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 07:41:13 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote:

On 11/13/2015 11:13 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
Califbill billnews wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
John H. wrote:
...or juvenile delinquents.

Maybe the threat will be taken seriously.

And, doesn't France have some very stringent gun control laws? Shame someone in the
concert wasn't carrying.

French borders closed. Should tell us something.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


This isn't the time for your right wing insanity.


Maybe not time for left wing insanity. Let a bunch of "refugees" from
Syria, etc. in?



Do you suppose johnnymop carries his pistol on his daily trip to Walmart?


Do you supposed you may have to carry your firearms with you?

Harry has stated that he packs heat while he's in the Shenandoah. Why,
you ask? He stated that he carries because he's afraid a stray dog might
attack him.

Harry, WAFJ!
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


It must be comforting to know that neither you nor your buddy FlaJim
will ever be confused with folks who are clever.

They're just thugs...
 

On 11/14/15 4:30 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 08:25:19 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 11/14/15 7:34 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 07:10:47 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 11/14/15 7:00 AM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 21:03:47 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

Califbill billnews wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
John H. wrote:
...or juvenile delinquents.

Maybe the threat will be taken seriously.

And, doesn't France have some very stringent gun control laws? Shame someone in the
concert wasn't carrying.

French borders closed. Should tell us something.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


This isn't the time for your right wing insanity.


Maybe not time for left wing insanity. Let a bunch of "refugees" from
Syria, etc. in?



Do you suppose johnnymop carries his pistol on his daily trip to Walmart?

Does that have something to do with what happened in France?

Your comments are as stupid as Don's.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


"Shame someone in the concert wasn't carrying"

Do you carry on your daily trips to Walmart?

Do you share Don's penchant for stupid comments?
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


You're the one who is suggesting that looser gun control laws would
allow more people to carry. You live in a loose gun control state. Do
you carry when you visit Walmart?

If Muslims begin shooting up our malls, theaters, WalMarts, etc., you damn right I'll
be carrying when I go to WalMart.

This is not the first attack that has taken place in France.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


What about white christians shooting up malls, theaters, walmarts, et
cetera? Aren't you worried about them? They're the ones who are doing
most of the "shooting up" of public places here.

They're just thugs...
 

On 11/14/15 4:31 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 10:58:36 -0500, wrote:

On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 07:09:49 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 11/14/15 12:29 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 17:59:09 -0800, Califbill billnews wrote:

Keyser Söze wrote:
John H. wrote:
...or juvenile delinquents.

Maybe the threat will be taken seriously.

And, doesn't France have some very stringent gun control laws? Shame someone in the
concert wasn't carrying.

French borders closed. Should tell us something.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


This isn't the time for your right wing insanity.


Maybe not time for left wing insanity. Let a bunch of "refugees" from
Syria, etc. in?

France is lousy with militant muslims. It has been that way for a
while, certainly since the 50s when they had their "Algerian" problem.
Things are just heating up.
I think we ain't seen nothin yet. These terrorists have infiltrated
most of western Europe, hidden in with the refugees.


Other than our deserting Israel, what's your Libertarian idea for
handing ISIS?

Let Putin do it. The only reason any of those groups threaten us is
because we are bombing them.

It has nothing to do with our choice of religion?
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


You mean, of course, *your* choice of religion.

They're just thugs...
 

On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 16:47:39 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 11/14/15 4:15 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 07:41:13 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote:

On 11/13/2015 11:13 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
Califbill billnews wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
John H. wrote:
...or juvenile delinquents.

Maybe the threat will be taken seriously.

And, doesn't France have some very stringent gun control laws? Shame someone in the
concert wasn't carrying.

French borders closed. Should tell us something.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


This isn't the time for your right wing insanity.


Maybe not time for left wing insanity. Let a bunch of "refugees" from
Syria, etc. in?



Do you suppose johnnymop carries his pistol on his daily trip to Walmart?


Do you supposed you may have to carry your firearms with you?

Harry has stated that he packs heat while he's in the Shenandoah. Why,
you ask? He stated that he carries because he's afraid a stray dog might
attack him.

Harry, WAFJ!
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


It must be comforting to know that neither you nor your buddy FlaJim
will ever be confused with folks who are clever.

Like you? Able to tell one lie after another and get caught time and time again?
That's clever!
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

They're just thugs...
 

On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 16:51:08 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 11/14/15 4:31 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 10:58:36 -0500, wrote:

On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 07:09:49 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 11/14/15 12:29 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 17:59:09 -0800, Califbill billnews wrote:

Keyser Söze wrote:
John H. wrote:
...or juvenile delinquents.

Maybe the threat will be taken seriously.

And, doesn't France have some very stringent gun control laws? Shame someone in the
concert wasn't carrying.

French borders closed. Should tell us something.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


This isn't the time for your right wing insanity.


Maybe not time for left wing insanity. Let a bunch of "refugees" from
Syria, etc. in?

France is lousy with militant muslims. It has been that way for a
while, certainly since the 50s when they had their "Algerian" problem.
Things are just heating up.
I think we ain't seen nothin yet. These terrorists have infiltrated
most of western Europe, hidden in with the refugees.


Other than our deserting Israel, what's your Libertarian idea for
handing ISIS?

Let Putin do it. The only reason any of those groups threaten us is
because we are bombing them.

It has nothing to do with our choice of religion?
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


You mean, of course, *your* choice of religion.

The religion of anyone who is not Muslim...including yours.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

They're just thugs...
 

On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 16:50:15 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 11/14/15 4:30 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 08:25:19 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 11/14/15 7:34 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 07:10:47 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 11/14/15 7:00 AM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 21:03:47 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

Califbill billnews wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
John H. wrote:
...or juvenile delinquents.

Maybe the threat will be taken seriously.

And, doesn't France have some very stringent gun control laws? Shame someone in the
concert wasn't carrying.

French borders closed. Should tell us something.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


This isn't the time for your right wing insanity.


Maybe not time for left wing insanity. Let a bunch of "refugees" from
Syria, etc. in?



Do you suppose johnnymop carries his pistol on his daily trip to Walmart?

Does that have something to do with what happened in France?

Your comments are as stupid as Don's.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


"Shame someone in the concert wasn't carrying"

Do you carry on your daily trips to Walmart?

Do you share Don's penchant for stupid comments?
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


You're the one who is suggesting that looser gun control laws would
allow more people to carry. You live in a loose gun control state. Do
you carry when you visit Walmart?

If Muslims begin shooting up our malls, theaters, WalMarts, etc., you damn right I'll
be carrying when I go to WalMart.

This is not the first attack that has taken place in France.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


What about white christians shooting up malls, theaters, walmarts, et
cetera? Aren't you worried about them? They're the ones who are doing
most of the "shooting up" of public places here.

Keep proving my point.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

They're just thugs...
 

- show quoted text -
What about white christians shooting up malls, theaters, walmarts, et
cetera? Aren't you worried about them? They're the ones who are doing
most of the "shooting up" of public places here.
----

Who said "they" are "Christians?" You Harry?

They're just thugs...
 

- show quoted text -
What about white christians shooting up malls, theaters, walmarts, et
cetera? Aren't you worried about them? They're the ones who are doing
most of the "shooting up" of public places here.
----

Who said "they" are "Christians?" You Harry?

They're just thugs...
 

On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 14:50:16 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:

- show quoted text -
What about white christians shooting up malls, theaters, walmarts, et
cetera? Aren't you worried about them? They're the ones who are doing
most of the "shooting up" of public places here.
----

Who said "they" are "Christians?" You Harry?

Point well made, Tim.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

They're just thugs...
 

John H. wrote:
On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 07:53:02 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 11/14/2015 7:35 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 07:29:05 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 11/14/2015 7:09 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 11/14/15 12:29 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 17:59:09 -0800, Califbill billnews wrote:

Keyser Söze wrote:
John H. wrote:
...or juvenile delinquents.

Maybe the threat will be taken seriously.

And, doesn't France have some very stringent gun control laws?
Shame someone in the
concert wasn't carrying.

French borders closed. Should tell us something.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


This isn't the time for your right wing insanity.


Maybe not time for left wing insanity. Let a bunch of "refugees" from
Syria, etc. in?

France is lousy with militant muslims. It has been that way for a
while, certainly since the 50s when they had their "Algerian" problem.
Things are just heating up.
I think we ain't seen nothin yet. These terrorists have infiltrated
most of western Europe, hidden in with the refugees.


Other than our deserting Israel, what's your Libertarian idea for
handing ISIS?


Don't know what Greg will say, but here's my suggestion:

Honor all formal agreements we have with our allies
and expect them to honor the agreements in return.

Think twice about what kind and who we sign any new agreements with.

Let non-allies, including those nations that are predominately
Muslim deal with Islamic fundamentalist movements like ISIS on their own.

The only reason we are involved is because we stick our nose where
it doesn't belong and we have little or no understanding of what
motivates the different, religious based Islamic followers.

If they attack us ... or any of our allies ... fight back hard, but
otherwise mind our own business.

If you are a journalist or world do-gooder and value your life, stay
the hell out of the areas of the world being controlled by the likes
of ISIS. Otherwise, don't expect your government to come and save your
ass or expect retaliation because you got killed.



I'd add 'keep control of your borders'.

How? Build the Great Trump Wall with the *huge*, "Beautiful" gate in
the middle for "legal" immigrants?

To parrot your solution for just about all the problems we have:

"Enforce existing laws".


Agreed. And put the resources there to do it. I'll bet a couple thousand more border
patrol, doing their job, would pay off in the long run. How much tax money goes to
the illegals here?
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


Want to fix the illegal problem? Easy! Just bring back a Bracero program.
Temporary work permits. Not a path to citizenship, which they do nothing
t want if they can come and work part of the year. We already do it with
H-1 visas, screwing those citizens with STEM degrees.

They're just thugs...
 

On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 16:17:17 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 14:05:24 -0500, wrote:

On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 12:16:40 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

At this point I think WW III is inevitable. Just a matter of time.
Russia and maybe even China may end up being allies.

I am not sure China really cares about this because they don't seem to
have a muslim problem. They have sense enough not to have "made in
China" bomb fragments in the rubble.
The idea that we would partner up with the russians to kill several
million muslims is not totally off the wall tho. They have far worse
islamic terrorism problems than we do and it is right on their
borders, not across an ocean.
I doubt it would actually accomplish much tho.

I don't think Muslims are a threat to China either. Russia and China pose a threat to
us.

How is that? China used to be in a position to win an economic war
with us but they are starting to have their own problems. Russia is no
direct threat unless you are talking about total nuclear war that
would be the end of the world as we know it for everyone. It has been
that way for 60 years.

They're just thugs...
 

On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 16:31:12 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 10:58:36 -0500, wrote:

On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 07:09:49 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 11/14/15 12:29 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 17:59:09 -0800, Califbill billnews wrote:

Keyser Söze wrote:
John H. wrote:
...or juvenile delinquents.

Maybe the threat will be taken seriously.

And, doesn't France have some very stringent gun control laws? Shame someone in the
concert wasn't carrying.

French borders closed. Should tell us something.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


This isn't the time for your right wing insanity.


Maybe not time for left wing insanity. Let a bunch of "refugees" from
Syria, etc. in?

France is lousy with militant muslims. It has been that way for a
while, certainly since the 50s when they had their "Algerian" problem.
Things are just heating up.
I think we ain't seen nothin yet. These terrorists have infiltrated
most of western Europe, hidden in with the refugees.


Other than our deserting Israel, what's your Libertarian idea for
handing ISIS?

Let Putin do it. The only reason any of those groups threaten us is
because we are bombing them.

It has nothing to do with our choice of religion?

Only when we are promoting it in their country.
The jihadis who attack "infidels" in other countries are just nuts who
have become radicalized on the internet, not unlike the other mass
killers we deal with.

They're just thugs...
 

On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 16:49:09 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Over the course of history, I wonder which religion - Muslim or
Christianity - has been responsible for more deaths.

It would be an interesting study but we really do not have good
numbers for the Ottoman Empire and it's predecessors in that area.
There was plenty of muslim on muslim violence right up to today.
They may have killed a million in one war (Iran Iraq in the 80s)

When you are throwing around those numbers, things like the crusades
and the inquisition fail in comparison.

They're just thugs...
 

On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 17:21:42 -0500, John H.
wrote:

Guess what, the Crusades were over a long time ago.

Not according to the muslims we are fighting now. This is just another
battle in a war that has gone on for over 1000 years

They're just thugs...
 

On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 16:29:44 -0800, Califbill billnews wrote:


Want to fix the illegal problem? Easy! Just bring back a Bracero program.
Temporary work permits. Not a path to citizenship, which they do nothing
t want if they can come and work part of the year. We already do it with
H-1 visas, screwing those citizens with STEM degrees.

I would give a work permits to anyone who pays FICA taxes and stays
out of trouble.
The ironic thing is the IRS may actually be getting less money because
of the immigration crackdowns. Back when 3 or 4 people were using the
same SS# they were collecting withholding and FICA from all of them
and only one could actually file a return. The reality is they had to
have enough taken out to insure they didn't have to and nobody filed.
(those tax refunds stayed in DC) The FICA tax was first dollar and
they were never going to be able to collect benefits because they
would not have the documents to get by SSA.
A friend of mine had a lawn service and he knew most of his guys were
illegal. He still collected taxes and sent it in like they were. Every
year he got a letter from the IRS saying there might be a problem with
the SS# but they didn't really want him to do anything and it said in
big bold print "Do not use this letter as a reason to terminate the
employee"
They knew it would cost them money

That is because they have pretty much banned Islam in China.

http://shoebat.com/2015/06/30/china-...-who-complain/

They're just thugs...
 

On Sun, 15 Nov 2015 01:52:47 -0500, wrote:

On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 16:31:12 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 10:58:36 -0500, wrote:

On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 07:09:49 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 11/14/15 12:29 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 17:59:09 -0800, Califbill billnews wrote:

Keyser Söze wrote:
John H. wrote:
...or juvenile delinquents.

Maybe the threat will be taken seriously.

And, doesn't France have some very stringent gun control laws? Shame someone in the
concert wasn't carrying.

French borders closed. Should tell us something.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


This isn't the time for your right wing insanity.


Maybe not time for left wing insanity. Let a bunch of "refugees" from
Syria, etc. in?

France is lousy with militant muslims. It has been that way for a
while, certainly since the 50s when they had their "Algerian" problem.
Things are just heating up.
I think we ain't seen nothin yet. These terrorists have infiltrated
most of western Europe, hidden in with the refugees.


Other than our deserting Israel, what's your Libertarian idea for
handing ISIS?

Let Putin do it. The only reason any of those groups threaten us is
because we are bombing them.

It has nothing to do with our choice of religion?

Only when we are promoting it in their country.
The jihadis who attack "infidels" in other countries are just nuts who
have become radicalized on the internet, not unlike the other mass
killers we deal with.

I think as long as we, and allies, have an issue with Iran over nuclear weapons, we
provide a rallying cry for the extremists. For us, and allies, to 'back out' would be
to put nukes in the hands of Iran very shortly. I have no doubt that ISIS could get
their hands on same soon after. If these kids in the sand box are left alone, they'll
build some very dangerous toys.

Then what?
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

They're just thugs...
 

On Sun, 15 Nov 2015 02:03:44 -0500, wrote:

On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 17:21:42 -0500, John H.
wrote:

Guess what, the Crusades were over a long time ago.

Not according to the muslims we are fighting now. This is just another
battle in a war that has gone on for over 1000 years

Harry and the Muslims must think a lot alike.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

They're just thugs...
 

On Sun, 15 Nov 2015 07:54:04 +0000, RGrew176
wrote:


;1048830 Wrote:
On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 12:16:40 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:
-
At this point I think WW III is inevitable. Just a matter of time.
Russia and maybe even China may end up being allies.-

I am not sure China really cares about this because they don't seem to
have a muslim problem. They have sense enough not to have "made in
China" bomb fragments in the rubble.
The idea that we would partner up with the russians to kill several
million muslims is not totally off the wall tho. They have far worse
islamic terrorism problems than we do and it is right on their
borders, not across an ocean.
I doubt it would actually accomplish much tho.

That is because they have pretty much banned Islam in China.

http://tinyurl.com/patk2fk

Smart moves.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

They're just thugs...
 

On 11/15/15 8:27 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 15 Nov 2015 07:54:04 +0000, RGrew176
wrote:


;1048830 Wrote:
On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 12:16:40 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:
-
At this point I think WW III is inevitable. Just a matter of time.
Russia and maybe even China may end up being allies.-

I am not sure China really cares about this because they don't seem to
have a muslim problem. They have sense enough not to have "made in
China" bomb fragments in the rubble.
The idea that we would partner up with the russians to kill several
million muslims is not totally off the wall tho. They have far worse
islamic terrorism problems than we do and it is right on their
borders, not across an ocean.
I doubt it would actually accomplish much tho.

That is because they have pretty much banned Islam in China.

http://tinyurl.com/patk2fk

Smart moves.
--


Good grief...you righties really truly have your heads up your asses
when it comes to knowledge of the world and the way it is. If there is
an antidote for Fox News and crazy rightwingedness, you ought to take it
three times a day.

The PRC has *not* banned Islam. There are millions of Muslims in China,
there are Muslim schools, festivals, cultural activities, architectural,
ways to practice Muslim dietary laws.

The site RGrew176 cited is a right-wing, bat**** crazy christian site
run by a convert.

They're just thugs...
 

On Sun, 15 Nov 2015 06:20:33 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Sun, 15 Nov 2015 01:52:47 -0500, wrote:

On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 16:31:12 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 10:58:36 -0500, wrote:

On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 07:09:49 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 11/14/15 12:29 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 17:59:09 -0800, Califbill billnews wrote:

Keyser Söze wrote:
John H. wrote:
...or juvenile delinquents.

Maybe the threat will be taken seriously.

And, doesn't France have some very stringent gun control laws? Shame someone in the
concert wasn't carrying.

French borders closed. Should tell us something.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


This isn't the time for your right wing insanity.


Maybe not time for left wing insanity. Let a bunch of "refugees" from
Syria, etc. in?

France is lousy with militant muslims. It has been that way for a
while, certainly since the 50s when they had their "Algerian" problem.
Things are just heating up.
I think we ain't seen nothin yet. These terrorists have infiltrated
most of western Europe, hidden in with the refugees.


Other than our deserting Israel, what's your Libertarian idea for
handing ISIS?

Let Putin do it. The only reason any of those groups threaten us is
because we are bombing them.

It has nothing to do with our choice of religion?

Only when we are promoting it in their country.
The jihadis who attack "infidels" in other countries are just nuts who
have become radicalized on the internet, not unlike the other mass
killers we deal with.

I think as long as we, and allies, have an issue with Iran over nuclear weapons, we
provide a rallying cry for the extremists. For us, and allies, to 'back out' would be
to put nukes in the hands of Iran very shortly. I have no doubt that ISIS could get
their hands on same soon after. If these kids in the sand box are left alone, they'll
build some very dangerous toys.

Then what?

Iran is fighting ISIS,
I understand it is sometimes hard to keep who is fighting whom
straight ;-)
ISIS is more closely related to our good buddies the Saudis.