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Keyser Söze November 3rd 15 10:01 PM

What could be nicer...
 
....eagle takes down annoying drone:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hr-xBtVU4lg

Hope this happens everywhere...

:)

[email protected] November 4th 15 05:56 AM

What could be nicer...
 
On Tue, 3 Nov 2015 17:01:24 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

...eagle takes down annoying drone:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hr-xBtVU4lg

Hope this happens everywhere...

:)


That is cool but I like to see them picking off cats better.
It is healthier for the environment.

Justan Olphart[_2_] November 4th 15 01:00 PM

What could be nicer...
 
On 11/4/2015 12:56 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 3 Nov 2015 17:01:24 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

...eagle takes down annoying drone:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hr-xBtVU4lg

Hope this happens everywhere...

:)


That is cool but I like to see them picking off cats better.
It is healthier for the environment.

I agree.

Here's one reason why.

http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=...E514F2439E508D

Mr. Luddite November 4th 15 02:13 PM

What could be nicer...
 
On 11/4/2015 8:00 AM, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 11/4/2015 12:56 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 3 Nov 2015 17:01:24 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

...eagle takes down annoying drone:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hr-xBtVU4lg

Hope this happens everywhere...

:)


That is cool but I like to see them picking off cats better.
It is healthier for the environment.

I agree.

Here's one reason why.

http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=...E514F2439E508D



I saw something on one of the cable TV networks about common house cats.
Apparently they share the same temperament and killing instincts that
the big cats (lions, tigers, etc.) have. If they were bigger, they
would be likely to turn on and eat their owners.



[email protected] November 4th 15 04:45 PM

What could be nicer...
 
On Wed, 4 Nov 2015 08:00:30 -0500, Justan Olphart
wrote:


Here's one reason why.

http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=...E514F2439E508D


Lots of women have a smelly pussy but I have never seen anyone so
proud of it.

Justan Olphart[_2_] November 4th 15 05:53 PM

What could be nicer...
 
On 11/4/2015 11:45 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 4 Nov 2015 08:00:30 -0500, Justan Olphart
wrote:


Here's one reason why.

http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=...E514F2439E508D

Lots of women have a smelly pussy but I have never seen anyone so
proud of it.

?

John H.[_5_] November 4th 15 07:45 PM

What could be nicer...
 
On Tue, 3 Nov 2015 17:01:24 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

...eagle takes down annoying drone:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hr-xBtVU4lg

Hope this happens everywhere...

:)


No you don't, dumb****. What happened to the eagle (if that's what it was). Those
propellers will easily take off a finger, let alone cut up an eagle, or hawk or any
other bird, very badly. You'll note the drone is still transmitting, which means the
owner can easily retrieve and repair it.

No one knows what happened to the bird. I hope it made it.

And I hope you learned something.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

John H.[_5_] November 4th 15 07:46 PM

What could be nicer...
 
On Wed, 04 Nov 2015 00:56:44 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 3 Nov 2015 17:01:24 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

...eagle takes down annoying drone:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hr-xBtVU4lg

Hope this happens everywhere...

:)


That is cool but I like to see them picking off cats better.
It is healthier for the environment.


Not cool at all. Please read post to Krause. I hope the bird made it.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

Keyser Söze November 4th 15 08:21 PM

What could be nicer...
 
On 11/4/15 2:45 PM, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 3 Nov 2015 17:01:24 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

...eagle takes down annoying drone:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hr-xBtVU4lg

Hope this happens everywhere...

:)


No you don't, dumb****. What happened to the eagle (if that's what it was). Those
propellers will easily take off a finger, let alone cut up an eagle, or hawk or any
other bird, very badly. You'll note the drone is still transmitting, which means the
owner can easily retrieve and repair it.

No one knows what happened to the bird. I hope it made it.

And I hope you learned something.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!



Johnnycakes, I really don't give a **** about you and your boytoy
hobbies. I hope the eagle made it, too, and I hope eagles learn to
recognize those damned drones for the intrusive pieces of **** they are.

[email protected] November 4th 15 08:56 PM

What could be nicer...
 
On Wed, 04 Nov 2015 14:45:37 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Tue, 3 Nov 2015 17:01:24 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

...eagle takes down annoying drone:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hr-xBtVU4lg

Hope this happens everywhere...

:)


No you don't, dumb****. What happened to the eagle (if that's what it was). Those
propellers will easily take off a finger, let alone cut up an eagle, or hawk or any
other bird, very badly. You'll note the drone is still transmitting, which means the
owner can easily retrieve and repair it.

No one knows what happened to the bird. I hope it made it.

And I hope you learned something.


Myth busters tested drones. All but the biggest were pretty much
harmless. Some of the big commercial ones with carbon fiber blades can
leave a mark ;-)

John H.[_5_] November 4th 15 11:04 PM

What could be nicer...
 
On Wed, 4 Nov 2015 15:21:04 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 11/4/15 2:45 PM, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 3 Nov 2015 17:01:24 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

...eagle takes down annoying drone:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hr-xBtVU4lg

Hope this happens everywhere...

:)


No you don't, dumb****. What happened to the eagle (if that's what it was). Those
propellers will easily take off a finger, let alone cut up an eagle, or hawk or any
other bird, very badly. You'll note the drone is still transmitting, which means the
owner can easily retrieve and repair it.

No one knows what happened to the bird. I hope it made it.

And I hope you learned something.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!



Johnnycakes, I really don't give a **** about you and your boytoy
hobbies. I hope the eagle made it, too, and I hope eagles learn to
recognize those damned drones for the intrusive pieces of **** they are.


Then don't 'hope this happens everywhere', you friggin' fool.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

True North[_2_] November 4th 15 11:07 PM

What could be nicer...
 
Just saw a news items about drones. There is some kind of exhibition in town with 40 exhibitors and 200 delegates.
If a person was interested in one of the toys it might be worth the price of admission.

John H.[_5_] November 4th 15 11:18 PM

What could be nicer...
 
On Wed, 04 Nov 2015 15:56:06 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 04 Nov 2015 14:45:37 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Tue, 3 Nov 2015 17:01:24 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

...eagle takes down annoying drone:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hr-xBtVU4lg

Hope this happens everywhere...

:)


No you don't, dumb****. What happened to the eagle (if that's what it was). Those
propellers will easily take off a finger, let alone cut up an eagle, or hawk or any
other bird, very badly. You'll note the drone is still transmitting, which means the
owner can easily retrieve and repair it.

No one knows what happened to the bird. I hope it made it.

And I hope you learned something.


Myth busters tested drones. All but the biggest were pretty much
harmless. Some of the big commercial ones with carbon fiber blades can
leave a mark ;-)


I've seen the damage a plastic airplane propeller going at a much slower rpm can do
to a leather covered ottoman corner. Ate right through it to the stuffing. My wife
was very unhappy. I'm thinking your 'myth busters' test is bull****. Although small
and plastic, those props are going several thousand rpm, and they're very sharp.

Here's a view of some of the damage caused with the airplane/drone that caused the
problem, in some cases. It's in French, but you get the idea. Imagine if those cuts
were in an eagle's neck? Or a foot joint?

http://chrismeme11.over-blog.com/article-36258812.html
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

[email protected] November 5th 15 06:30 AM

What could be nicer...
 
On Wed, 04 Nov 2015 18:18:20 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 04 Nov 2015 15:56:06 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 04 Nov 2015 14:45:37 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Tue, 3 Nov 2015 17:01:24 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

...eagle takes down annoying drone:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hr-xBtVU4lg

Hope this happens everywhere...

:)

No you don't, dumb****. What happened to the eagle (if that's what it was). Those
propellers will easily take off a finger, let alone cut up an eagle, or hawk or any
other bird, very badly. You'll note the drone is still transmitting, which means the
owner can easily retrieve and repair it.

No one knows what happened to the bird. I hope it made it.

And I hope you learned something.


Myth busters tested drones. All but the biggest were pretty much
harmless. Some of the big commercial ones with carbon fiber blades can
leave a mark ;-)


I've seen the damage a plastic airplane propeller going at a much slower rpm can do
to a leather covered ottoman corner. Ate right through it to the stuffing. My wife
was very unhappy. I'm thinking your 'myth busters' test is bull****. Although small
and plastic, those props are going several thousand rpm, and they're very sharp.

Here's a view of some of the damage caused with the airplane/drone that caused the
problem, in some cases. It's in French, but you get the idea. Imagine if those cuts
were in an eagle's neck? Or a foot joint?

http://chrismeme11.over-blog.com/article-36258812.html


Dunno. They were using a few different small hobby drones hitting a
ballistic gel dummy and watching it on a high speed camera.

This really comes down to this being a very light propeller driven by
a pretty weak motor. You can't compare that to the old 2 stroke model
airplanes.

Mr. Luddite November 5th 15 08:08 AM

What could be nicer...
 
On 11/5/2015 1:30 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 04 Nov 2015 18:18:20 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 04 Nov 2015 15:56:06 -0500,
wrote:

On Wed, 04 Nov 2015 14:45:37 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Tue, 3 Nov 2015 17:01:24 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

...eagle takes down annoying drone:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hr-xBtVU4lg

Hope this happens everywhere...

:)

No you don't, dumb****. What happened to the eagle (if that's what it was). Those
propellers will easily take off a finger, let alone cut up an eagle, or hawk or any
other bird, very badly. You'll note the drone is still transmitting, which means the
owner can easily retrieve and repair it.

No one knows what happened to the bird. I hope it made it.

And I hope you learned something.

Myth busters tested drones. All but the biggest were pretty much
harmless. Some of the big commercial ones with carbon fiber blades can
leave a mark ;-)


I've seen the damage a plastic airplane propeller going at a much slower rpm can do
to a leather covered ottoman corner. Ate right through it to the stuffing. My wife
was very unhappy. I'm thinking your 'myth busters' test is bull****. Although small
and plastic, those props are going several thousand rpm, and they're very sharp.

Here's a view of some of the damage caused with the airplane/drone that caused the
problem, in some cases. It's in French, but you get the idea. Imagine if those cuts
were in an eagle's neck? Or a foot joint?

http://chrismeme11.over-blog.com/article-36258812.html


Dunno. They were using a few different small hobby drones hitting a
ballistic gel dummy and watching it on a high speed camera.

This really comes down to this being a very light propeller driven by
a pretty weak motor. You can't compare that to the old 2 stroke model
airplanes.



Based on what I've read (and heard), the lithium/ion batteries used in
these hobbyist quads are more dangerous than the spinning propellers.

[email protected] November 5th 15 04:06 PM

What could be nicer...
 
On Thu, 5 Nov 2015 03:08:05 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 11/5/2015 1:30 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 04 Nov 2015 18:18:20 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 04 Nov 2015 15:56:06 -0500,
wrote:

On Wed, 04 Nov 2015 14:45:37 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Tue, 3 Nov 2015 17:01:24 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

...eagle takes down annoying drone:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hr-xBtVU4lg

Hope this happens everywhere...

:)

No you don't, dumb****. What happened to the eagle (if that's what it was). Those
propellers will easily take off a finger, let alone cut up an eagle, or hawk or any
other bird, very badly. You'll note the drone is still transmitting, which means the
owner can easily retrieve and repair it.

No one knows what happened to the bird. I hope it made it.

And I hope you learned something.

Myth busters tested drones. All but the biggest were pretty much
harmless. Some of the big commercial ones with carbon fiber blades can
leave a mark ;-)

I've seen the damage a plastic airplane propeller going at a much slower rpm can do
to a leather covered ottoman corner. Ate right through it to the stuffing. My wife
was very unhappy. I'm thinking your 'myth busters' test is bull****. Although small
and plastic, those props are going several thousand rpm, and they're very sharp.

Here's a view of some of the damage caused with the airplane/drone that caused the
problem, in some cases. It's in French, but you get the idea. Imagine if those cuts
were in an eagle's neck? Or a foot joint?

http://chrismeme11.over-blog.com/article-36258812.html


Dunno. They were using a few different small hobby drones hitting a
ballistic gel dummy and watching it on a high speed camera.

This really comes down to this being a very light propeller driven by
a pretty weak motor. You can't compare that to the old 2 stroke model
airplanes.



Based on what I've read (and heard), the lithium/ion batteries used in
these hobbyist quads are more dangerous than the spinning propellers.


I imagine it is just a matter of time until these things outgrow the
batteries and they put a fuel cell or an IC engine in them to increase
range. Then you will have some serious danger.


Mr. Luddite November 5th 15 04:29 PM

What could be nicer...
 
On 11/5/2015 11:06 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 5 Nov 2015 03:08:05 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 11/5/2015 1:30 AM,
wrote:
On Wed, 04 Nov 2015 18:18:20 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 04 Nov 2015 15:56:06 -0500,
wrote:

On Wed, 04 Nov 2015 14:45:37 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Tue, 3 Nov 2015 17:01:24 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

...eagle takes down annoying drone:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hr-xBtVU4lg

Hope this happens everywhere...

:)

No you don't, dumb****. What happened to the eagle (if that's what it was). Those
propellers will easily take off a finger, let alone cut up an eagle, or hawk or any
other bird, very badly. You'll note the drone is still transmitting, which means the
owner can easily retrieve and repair it.

No one knows what happened to the bird. I hope it made it.

And I hope you learned something.

Myth busters tested drones. All but the biggest were pretty much
harmless. Some of the big commercial ones with carbon fiber blades can
leave a mark ;-)

I've seen the damage a plastic airplane propeller going at a much slower rpm can do
to a leather covered ottoman corner. Ate right through it to the stuffing. My wife
was very unhappy. I'm thinking your 'myth busters' test is bull****. Although small
and plastic, those props are going several thousand rpm, and they're very sharp.

Here's a view of some of the damage caused with the airplane/drone that caused the
problem, in some cases. It's in French, but you get the idea. Imagine if those cuts
were in an eagle's neck? Or a foot joint?

http://chrismeme11.over-blog.com/article-36258812.html

Dunno. They were using a few different small hobby drones hitting a
ballistic gel dummy and watching it on a high speed camera.

This really comes down to this being a very light propeller driven by
a pretty weak motor. You can't compare that to the old 2 stroke model
airplanes.



Based on what I've read (and heard), the lithium/ion batteries used in
these hobbyist quads are more dangerous than the spinning propellers.


I imagine it is just a matter of time until these things outgrow the
batteries and they put a fuel cell or an IC engine in them to increase
range. Then you will have some serious danger.



I've seen pictures of a lithium/ion battery in a carrying case that
"let go" during a recharge. Caught fire and damn near burned up the
owner's SUV that it was in.



Keyser Söze November 5th 15 04:43 PM

What could be nicer...
 
On 11/5/15 11:06 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 5 Nov 2015 03:08:05 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 11/5/2015 1:30 AM,
wrote:
On Wed, 04 Nov 2015 18:18:20 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 04 Nov 2015 15:56:06 -0500,
wrote:

On Wed, 04 Nov 2015 14:45:37 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Tue, 3 Nov 2015 17:01:24 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

...eagle takes down annoying drone:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hr-xBtVU4lg

Hope this happens everywhere...

:)

No you don't, dumb****. What happened to the eagle (if that's what it was). Those
propellers will easily take off a finger, let alone cut up an eagle, or hawk or any
other bird, very badly. You'll note the drone is still transmitting, which means the
owner can easily retrieve and repair it.

No one knows what happened to the bird. I hope it made it.

And I hope you learned something.

Myth busters tested drones. All but the biggest were pretty much
harmless. Some of the big commercial ones with carbon fiber blades can
leave a mark ;-)

I've seen the damage a plastic airplane propeller going at a much slower rpm can do
to a leather covered ottoman corner. Ate right through it to the stuffing. My wife
was very unhappy. I'm thinking your 'myth busters' test is bull****. Although small
and plastic, those props are going several thousand rpm, and they're very sharp.

Here's a view of some of the damage caused with the airplane/drone that caused the
problem, in some cases. It's in French, but you get the idea. Imagine if those cuts
were in an eagle's neck? Or a foot joint?

http://chrismeme11.over-blog.com/article-36258812.html

Dunno. They were using a few different small hobby drones hitting a
ballistic gel dummy and watching it on a high speed camera.

This really comes down to this being a very light propeller driven by
a pretty weak motor. You can't compare that to the old 2 stroke model
airplanes.



Based on what I've read (and heard), the lithium/ion batteries used in
these hobbyist quads are more dangerous than the spinning propellers.


I imagine it is just a matter of time until these things outgrow the
batteries and they put a fuel cell or an IC engine in them to increase
range. Then you will have some serious danger.



More Darwin awards...can hardly wait.

[email protected] November 5th 15 06:08 PM

What could be nicer...
 
On Thu, 5 Nov 2015 11:43:23 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

I imagine it is just a matter of time until these things outgrow the
batteries and they put a fuel cell or an IC engine in them to increase
range. Then you will have some serious danger.



More Darwin awards...can hardly wait.


Since these will be operated by companies like Aamzon, perhaps over
your house, I am not sure what you mean.

John H.[_5_] November 5th 15 09:31 PM

What could be nicer...
 
On Wed, 4 Nov 2015 15:07:17 -0800 (PST), True North wrote:

Just saw a news items about drones. There is some kind of exhibition in town with 40 exhibitors and 200 delegates.
If a person was interested in one of the toys it might be worth the price of admission.


Flying RC airplanes is, IMHO, fun. I've flown the multirotors, but don't get a kick
out of it. Except for small ones for the grandkids, I'd not be interested in buying
one. And, I've found that flying a helicopter and then flying an airplane pose a
problem. 'Up' for a helicopter is 'down' for an airplane using the transmitter
controls. That can get interesting.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

Mr. Luddite November 5th 15 10:02 PM

What could be nicer...
 
On 11/5/2015 4:31 PM, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 4 Nov 2015 15:07:17 -0800 (PST), True North wrote:

Just saw a news items about drones. There is some kind of exhibition in town with 40 exhibitors and 200 delegates.
If a person was interested in one of the toys it might be worth the price of admission.


Flying RC airplanes is, IMHO, fun. I've flown the multirotors, but don't get a kick
out of it. Except for small ones for the grandkids, I'd not be interested in buying
one. And, I've found that flying a helicopter and then flying an airplane pose a
problem. 'Up' for a helicopter is 'down' for an airplane using the transmitter
controls. That can get interesting.


Hold one or the other controller upside down. :-)




[email protected] November 5th 15 10:03 PM

What could be nicer...
 
On Thu, 05 Nov 2015 16:31:30 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 4 Nov 2015 15:07:17 -0800 (PST), True North wrote:

Just saw a news items about drones. There is some kind of exhibition in town with 40 exhibitors and 200 delegates.
If a person was interested in one of the toys it might be worth the price of admission.


Flying RC airplanes is, IMHO, fun. I've flown the multirotors, but don't get a kick
out of it. Except for small ones for the grandkids, I'd not be interested in buying
one. And, I've found that flying a helicopter and then flying an airplane pose a
problem. 'Up' for a helicopter is 'down' for an airplane using the transmitter
controls. That can get interesting.


My neighbor Henc is always bugging me to buy a little drone but I am
still not sure what I would do with it. It looks like something I
would play with a few times and then put it away. It might be
interesting to explore the mangroves that you can't walk into but if
the drone went down, you would have to I suppose.

John H.[_5_] November 5th 15 10:15 PM

What could be nicer...
 
On Thu, 05 Nov 2015 01:30:39 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 04 Nov 2015 18:18:20 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 04 Nov 2015 15:56:06 -0500,
wrote:

On Wed, 04 Nov 2015 14:45:37 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Tue, 3 Nov 2015 17:01:24 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

...eagle takes down annoying drone:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hr-xBtVU4lg

Hope this happens everywhere...

:)

No you don't, dumb****. What happened to the eagle (if that's what it was). Those
propellers will easily take off a finger, let alone cut up an eagle, or hawk or any
other bird, very badly. You'll note the drone is still transmitting, which means the
owner can easily retrieve and repair it.

No one knows what happened to the bird. I hope it made it.

And I hope you learned something.

Myth busters tested drones. All but the biggest were pretty much
harmless. Some of the big commercial ones with carbon fiber blades can
leave a mark ;-)


I've seen the damage a plastic airplane propeller going at a much slower rpm can do
to a leather covered ottoman corner. Ate right through it to the stuffing. My wife
was very unhappy. I'm thinking your 'myth busters' test is bull****. Although small
and plastic, those props are going several thousand rpm, and they're very sharp.

Here's a view of some of the damage caused with the airplane/drone that caused the
problem, in some cases. It's in French, but you get the idea. Imagine if those cuts
were in an eagle's neck? Or a foot joint?

http://chrismeme11.over-blog.com/article-36258812.html


Dunno. They were using a few different small hobby drones hitting a
ballistic gel dummy and watching it on a high speed camera.

This really comes down to this being a very light propeller driven by
a pretty weak motor. You can't compare that to the old 2 stroke model
airplanes.


Wrong. Do some research on these 'weak' little motors.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

John H.[_5_] November 5th 15 10:16 PM

What could be nicer...
 
On Thu, 5 Nov 2015 03:08:05 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 11/5/2015 1:30 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 04 Nov 2015 18:18:20 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 04 Nov 2015 15:56:06 -0500,
wrote:

On Wed, 04 Nov 2015 14:45:37 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Tue, 3 Nov 2015 17:01:24 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

...eagle takes down annoying drone:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hr-xBtVU4lg

Hope this happens everywhere...

:)

No you don't, dumb****. What happened to the eagle (if that's what it was). Those
propellers will easily take off a finger, let alone cut up an eagle, or hawk or any
other bird, very badly. You'll note the drone is still transmitting, which means the
owner can easily retrieve and repair it.

No one knows what happened to the bird. I hope it made it.

And I hope you learned something.

Myth busters tested drones. All but the biggest were pretty much
harmless. Some of the big commercial ones with carbon fiber blades can
leave a mark ;-)

I've seen the damage a plastic airplane propeller going at a much slower rpm can do
to a leather covered ottoman corner. Ate right through it to the stuffing. My wife
was very unhappy. I'm thinking your 'myth busters' test is bull****. Although small
and plastic, those props are going several thousand rpm, and they're very sharp.

Here's a view of some of the damage caused with the airplane/drone that caused the
problem, in some cases. It's in French, but you get the idea. Imagine if those cuts
were in an eagle's neck? Or a foot joint?

http://chrismeme11.over-blog.com/article-36258812.html


Dunno. They were using a few different small hobby drones hitting a
ballistic gel dummy and watching it on a high speed camera.

This really comes down to this being a very light propeller driven by
a pretty weak motor. You can't compare that to the old 2 stroke model
airplanes.



Based on what I've read (and heard), the lithium/ion batteries used in
these hobbyist quads are more dangerous than the spinning propellers.


Not to eagles, which is where this started. Unless cared for properly, the lipo
batteries can be explosive.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

John H.[_5_] November 5th 15 10:19 PM

What could be nicer...
 
On Thu, 5 Nov 2015 11:29:14 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 11/5/2015 11:06 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 5 Nov 2015 03:08:05 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 11/5/2015 1:30 AM,
wrote:
On Wed, 04 Nov 2015 18:18:20 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 04 Nov 2015 15:56:06 -0500,
wrote:

On Wed, 04 Nov 2015 14:45:37 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Tue, 3 Nov 2015 17:01:24 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

...eagle takes down annoying drone:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hr-xBtVU4lg

Hope this happens everywhere...

:)

No you don't, dumb****. What happened to the eagle (if that's what it was). Those
propellers will easily take off a finger, let alone cut up an eagle, or hawk or any
other bird, very badly. You'll note the drone is still transmitting, which means the
owner can easily retrieve and repair it.

No one knows what happened to the bird. I hope it made it.

And I hope you learned something.

Myth busters tested drones. All but the biggest were pretty much
harmless. Some of the big commercial ones with carbon fiber blades can
leave a mark ;-)

I've seen the damage a plastic airplane propeller going at a much slower rpm can do
to a leather covered ottoman corner. Ate right through it to the stuffing. My wife
was very unhappy. I'm thinking your 'myth busters' test is bull****. Although small
and plastic, those props are going several thousand rpm, and they're very sharp.

Here's a view of some of the damage caused with the airplane/drone that caused the
problem, in some cases. It's in French, but you get the idea. Imagine if those cuts
were in an eagle's neck? Or a foot joint?

http://chrismeme11.over-blog.com/article-36258812.html

Dunno. They were using a few different small hobby drones hitting a
ballistic gel dummy and watching it on a high speed camera.

This really comes down to this being a very light propeller driven by
a pretty weak motor. You can't compare that to the old 2 stroke model
airplanes.



Based on what I've read (and heard), the lithium/ion batteries used in
these hobbyist quads are more dangerous than the spinning propellers.


I imagine it is just a matter of time until these things outgrow the
batteries and they put a fuel cell or an IC engine in them to increase
range. Then you will have some serious danger.



I've seen pictures of a lithium/ion battery in a carrying case that
"let go" during a recharge. Caught fire and damn near burned up the
owner's SUV that it was in.


A lot of folks store them in metal ammo cans or something like this:

http://tinyurl.com/pcnvhnm
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

John H.[_5_] November 5th 15 11:59 PM

What could be nicer...
 
On Thu, 5 Nov 2015 17:02:28 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 11/5/2015 4:31 PM, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 4 Nov 2015 15:07:17 -0800 (PST), True North wrote:

Just saw a news items about drones. There is some kind of exhibition in town with 40 exhibitors and 200 delegates.
If a person was interested in one of the toys it might be worth the price of admission.


Flying RC airplanes is, IMHO, fun. I've flown the multirotors, but don't get a kick
out of it. Except for small ones for the grandkids, I'd not be interested in buying
one. And, I've found that flying a helicopter and then flying an airplane pose a
problem. 'Up' for a helicopter is 'down' for an airplane using the transmitter
controls. That can get interesting.


Hold one or the other controller upside down. :-)


LOL, but that would just reverse the hand I used to crash with!
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

[email protected] November 6th 15 12:37 AM

What could be nicer...
 
On Thu, 05 Nov 2015 17:15:37 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Thu, 05 Nov 2015 01:30:39 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 04 Nov 2015 18:18:20 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 04 Nov 2015 15:56:06 -0500,
wrote:

On Wed, 04 Nov 2015 14:45:37 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Tue, 3 Nov 2015 17:01:24 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

...eagle takes down annoying drone:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hr-xBtVU4lg

Hope this happens everywhere...

:)

No you don't, dumb****. What happened to the eagle (if that's what it was). Those
propellers will easily take off a finger, let alone cut up an eagle, or hawk or any
other bird, very badly. You'll note the drone is still transmitting, which means the
owner can easily retrieve and repair it.

No one knows what happened to the bird. I hope it made it.

And I hope you learned something.

Myth busters tested drones. All but the biggest were pretty much
harmless. Some of the big commercial ones with carbon fiber blades can
leave a mark ;-)

I've seen the damage a plastic airplane propeller going at a much slower rpm can do
to a leather covered ottoman corner. Ate right through it to the stuffing. My wife
was very unhappy. I'm thinking your 'myth busters' test is bull****. Although small
and plastic, those props are going several thousand rpm, and they're very sharp.

Here's a view of some of the damage caused with the airplane/drone that caused the
problem, in some cases. It's in French, but you get the idea. Imagine if those cuts
were in an eagle's neck? Or a foot joint?

http://chrismeme11.over-blog.com/article-36258812.html


Dunno. They were using a few different small hobby drones hitting a
ballistic gel dummy and watching it on a high speed camera.

This really comes down to this being a very light propeller driven by
a pretty weak motor. You can't compare that to the old 2 stroke model
airplanes.


Wrong. Do some research on these 'weak' little motors.


What kind of drone are you talking about? If it is a hobby drone, they
use a little stepper motor like dozens of machines I have worked on. I
suggest you track down that Mythbusters show and look at the high
speed photos of the drones smacking into ballistic gel.

I also think you underestimate the "armor" presented by feathers in
big birds. That is why goose hunters shoot "BB" shot or even 4 buck. A
goose will shake a 1 oz load of #8s out of their feathers and keep
flying.

BDTD.

Jerry Sauk[_2_] November 6th 15 12:38 AM

What could be nicer...
 
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/5/2015 1:30 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 04 Nov 2015 18:18:20 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 04 Nov 2015 15:56:06 -0500,
wrote:

On Wed, 04 Nov 2015 14:45:37 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Tue, 3 Nov 2015 17:01:24 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

...eagle takes down annoying drone:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hr-xBtVU4lg

Hope this happens everywhere...

:)

No you don't, dumb****. What happened to the eagle (if that's what
it was). Those
propellers will easily take off a finger, let alone cut up an
eagle, or hawk or any
other bird, very badly. You'll note the drone is still
transmitting, which means the
owner can easily retrieve and repair it.

No one knows what happened to the bird. I hope it made it.

And I hope you learned something.

Myth busters tested drones. All but the biggest were pretty much
harmless. Some of the big commercial ones with carbon fiber blades can
leave a mark ;-)

I've seen the damage a plastic airplane propeller going at a much
slower rpm can do
to a leather covered ottoman corner. Ate right through it to the
stuffing. My wife
was very unhappy. I'm thinking your 'myth busters' test is bull****.
Although small
and plastic, those props are going several thousand rpm, and they're
very sharp.

Here's a view of some of the damage caused with the airplane/drone
that caused the
problem, in some cases. It's in French, but you get the idea.
Imagine if those cuts
were in an eagle's neck? Or a foot joint?

http://chrismeme11.over-blog.com/article-36258812.html


Dunno. They were using a few different small hobby drones hitting a
ballistic gel dummy and watching it on a high speed camera.

This really comes down to this being a very light propeller driven by
a pretty weak motor. You can't compare that to the old 2 stroke model
airplanes.



Based on what I've read (and heard), the lithium/ion batteries used
in these hobbyist quads are more dangerous than the spinning propellers.


Many are the lighter Lithium Polymer now which is supposed to be safer.

[email protected] November 6th 15 12:40 AM

What could be nicer...
 
On Thu, 05 Nov 2015 17:15:37 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Thu, 05 Nov 2015 01:30:39 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 04 Nov 2015 18:18:20 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 04 Nov 2015 15:56:06 -0500,
wrote:

On Wed, 04 Nov 2015 14:45:37 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Tue, 3 Nov 2015 17:01:24 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

...eagle takes down annoying drone:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hr-xBtVU4lg

Hope this happens everywhere...

:)

No you don't, dumb****. What happened to the eagle (if that's what it was). Those
propellers will easily take off a finger, let alone cut up an eagle, or hawk or any
other bird, very badly. You'll note the drone is still transmitting, which means the
owner can easily retrieve and repair it.

No one knows what happened to the bird. I hope it made it.

And I hope you learned something.

Myth busters tested drones. All but the biggest were pretty much
harmless. Some of the big commercial ones with carbon fiber blades can
leave a mark ;-)

I've seen the damage a plastic airplane propeller going at a much slower rpm can do
to a leather covered ottoman corner. Ate right through it to the stuffing. My wife
was very unhappy. I'm thinking your 'myth busters' test is bull****. Although small
and plastic, those props are going several thousand rpm, and they're very sharp.

Here's a view of some of the damage caused with the airplane/drone that caused the
problem, in some cases. It's in French, but you get the idea. Imagine if those cuts
were in an eagle's neck? Or a foot joint?

http://chrismeme11.over-blog.com/article-36258812.html


Dunno. They were using a few different small hobby drones hitting a
ballistic gel dummy and watching it on a high speed camera.

This really comes down to this being a very light propeller driven by
a pretty weak motor. You can't compare that to the old 2 stroke model
airplanes.


Wrong. Do some research on these 'weak' little motors.




http://www.discovery.com/tv-shows/my...s-kill-people/

Jerry Sauk[_2_] November 6th 15 12:41 AM

What could be nicer...
 
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 11/5/15 11:06 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 5 Nov 2015 03:08:05 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 11/5/2015 1:30 AM,
wrote:
On Wed, 04 Nov 2015 18:18:20 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 04 Nov 2015 15:56:06 -0500,
wrote:

On Wed, 04 Nov 2015 14:45:37 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Tue, 3 Nov 2015 17:01:24 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

...eagle takes down annoying drone:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hr-xBtVU4lg

Hope this happens everywhere...

:)

No you don't, dumb****. What happened to the eagle (if that's
what it was). Those
propellers will easily take off a finger, let alone cut up an
eagle, or hawk or any
other bird, very badly. You'll note the drone is still
transmitting, which means the
owner can easily retrieve and repair it.

No one knows what happened to the bird. I hope it made it.

And I hope you learned something.

Myth busters tested drones. All but the biggest were pretty much
harmless. Some of the big commercial ones with carbon fiber
blades can
leave a mark ;-)

I've seen the damage a plastic airplane propeller going at a much
slower rpm can do
to a leather covered ottoman corner. Ate right through it to the
stuffing. My wife
was very unhappy. I'm thinking your 'myth busters' test is
bull****. Although small
and plastic, those props are going several thousand rpm, and
they're very sharp.

Here's a view of some of the damage caused with the airplane/drone
that caused the
problem, in some cases. It's in French, but you get the idea.
Imagine if those cuts
were in an eagle's neck? Or a foot joint?

http://chrismeme11.over-blog.com/article-36258812.html

Dunno. They were using a few different small hobby drones hitting a
ballistic gel dummy and watching it on a high speed camera.

This really comes down to this being a very light propeller driven by
a pretty weak motor. You can't compare that to the old 2 stroke model
airplanes.



Based on what I've read (and heard), the lithium/ion batteries used in
these hobbyist quads are more dangerous than the spinning propellers.


I imagine it is just a matter of time until these things outgrow the
batteries and they put a fuel cell or an IC engine in them to increase
range. Then you will have some serious danger.



More Darwin awards...can hardly wait.


Do you think these batteries are only used in drones? Enjoy, moron...

http://www.inquisitr.com/1911053/app...-january-2016/

Jerry Sauk[_2_] November 6th 15 12:42 AM

What could be nicer...
 
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/5/2015 4:31 PM, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 4 Nov 2015 15:07:17 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:

Just saw a news items about drones. There is some kind of exhibition
in town with 40 exhibitors and 200 delegates.
If a person was interested in one of the toys it might be worth the
price of admission.


Flying RC airplanes is, IMHO, fun. I've flown the multirotors, but
don't get a kick
out of it. Except for small ones for the grandkids, I'd not be
interested in buying
one. And, I've found that flying a helicopter and then flying an
airplane pose a
problem. 'Up' for a helicopter is 'down' for an airplane using the
transmitter
controls. That can get interesting.


Hold one or the other controller upside down. :-)



Or reverse that controller. Many have a switch for that.

Califbill November 6th 15 12:59 AM

What could be nicer...
 
wrote:
On Thu, 05 Nov 2015 16:31:30 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 4 Nov 2015 15:07:17 -0800 (PST), True North wrote:

Just saw a news items about drones. There is some kind of exhibition in
town with 40 exhibitors and 200 delegates.
If a person was interested in one of the toys it might be worth the price of admission.


Flying RC airplanes is, IMHO, fun. I've flown the multirotors, but don't get a kick
out of it. Except for small ones for the grandkids, I'd not be interested in buying
one. And, I've found that flying a helicopter and then flying an airplane pose a
problem. 'Up' for a helicopter is 'down' for an airplane using the transmitter
controls. That can get interesting.


My neighbor Henc is always bugging me to buy a little drone but I am
still not sure what I would do with it. It looks like something I
would play with a few times and then put it away. It might be
interesting to explore the mangroves that you can't walk into but if
the drone went down, you would have to I suppose.


I have an indoor copter. IR link. Grandkids like it. Was about $10.


[email protected] November 6th 15 02:36 AM

What could be nicer...
 
On Thu, 5 Nov 2015 16:59:39 -0800, Califbill billnews wrote:

wrote:
On Thu, 05 Nov 2015 16:31:30 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 4 Nov 2015 15:07:17 -0800 (PST), True North wrote:

Just saw a news items about drones. There is some kind of exhibition in
town with 40 exhibitors and 200 delegates.
If a person was interested in one of the toys it might be worth the price of admission.

Flying RC airplanes is, IMHO, fun. I've flown the multirotors, but don't get a kick
out of it. Except for small ones for the grandkids, I'd not be interested in buying
one. And, I've found that flying a helicopter and then flying an airplane pose a
problem. 'Up' for a helicopter is 'down' for an airplane using the transmitter
controls. That can get interesting.


My neighbor Henc is always bugging me to buy a little drone but I am
still not sure what I would do with it. It looks like something I
would play with a few times and then put it away. It might be
interesting to explore the mangroves that you can't walk into but if
the drone went down, you would have to I suppose.


I have an indoor copter. IR link. Grandkids like it. Was about $10.


We had one around here a while and the kids got tired of it pretty
quick.
I think it may have died after a dunk in the pool tho. Nobody said
they wanted a new one.

Mr. Luddite November 6th 15 05:52 AM

What could be nicer...
 
On 11/5/2015 7:38 PM, Jerry Sauk wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/5/2015 1:30 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 04 Nov 2015 18:18:20 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 04 Nov 2015 15:56:06 -0500,
wrote:

On Wed, 04 Nov 2015 14:45:37 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Tue, 3 Nov 2015 17:01:24 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

...eagle takes down annoying drone:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hr-xBtVU4lg

Hope this happens everywhere...

:)

No you don't, dumb****. What happened to the eagle (if that's what
it was). Those
propellers will easily take off a finger, let alone cut up an
eagle, or hawk or any
other bird, very badly. You'll note the drone is still
transmitting, which means the
owner can easily retrieve and repair it.

No one knows what happened to the bird. I hope it made it.

And I hope you learned something.

Myth busters tested drones. All but the biggest were pretty much
harmless. Some of the big commercial ones with carbon fiber blades can
leave a mark ;-)

I've seen the damage a plastic airplane propeller going at a much
slower rpm can do
to a leather covered ottoman corner. Ate right through it to the
stuffing. My wife
was very unhappy. I'm thinking your 'myth busters' test is bull****.
Although small
and plastic, those props are going several thousand rpm, and they're
very sharp.

Here's a view of some of the damage caused with the airplane/drone
that caused the
problem, in some cases. It's in French, but you get the idea.
Imagine if those cuts
were in an eagle's neck? Or a foot joint?

http://chrismeme11.over-blog.com/article-36258812.html

Dunno. They were using a few different small hobby drones hitting a
ballistic gel dummy and watching it on a high speed camera.

This really comes down to this being a very light propeller driven by
a pretty weak motor. You can't compare that to the old 2 stroke model
airplanes.



Based on what I've read (and heard), the lithium/ion batteries used
in these hobbyist quads are more dangerous than the spinning propellers.


Many are the lighter Lithium Polymer now which is supposed to be safer.


Supposed to be but lithium is lithium and it reacts violently to water
vapor ... just the humidity in the air can set it off. The safety
factor is in the packaging it's contained in. If it is compromised, you
have a problem.

I visited a lithium battery manufacturing plant once. The assembly was
done in a clean room where the humidity was maintained at 5 percent or
less. As we were putting on our "monkey" suits in the lock before
entering the guy I was with warned me about how hard it would be to
breath when we entered the clean room. He wasn't kidding. When we
entered I gasped for air at first. 5 percent humidity is extremely
uncomfortable.



Jerry Sauk[_2_] November 7th 15 03:27 AM

What could be nicer...
 
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/5/2015 7:38 PM, Jerry Sauk wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/5/2015 1:30 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 04 Nov 2015 18:18:20 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 04 Nov 2015 15:56:06 -0500,
wrote:

On Wed, 04 Nov 2015 14:45:37 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Tue, 3 Nov 2015 17:01:24 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

...eagle takes down annoying drone:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hr-xBtVU4lg

Hope this happens everywhere...

:)

No you don't, dumb****. What happened to the eagle (if that's what
it was). Those
propellers will easily take off a finger, let alone cut up an
eagle, or hawk or any
other bird, very badly. You'll note the drone is still
transmitting, which means the
owner can easily retrieve and repair it.

No one knows what happened to the bird. I hope it made it.

And I hope you learned something.

Myth busters tested drones. All but the biggest were pretty much
harmless. Some of the big commercial ones with carbon fiber
blades can
leave a mark ;-)

I've seen the damage a plastic airplane propeller going at a much
slower rpm can do
to a leather covered ottoman corner. Ate right through it to the
stuffing. My wife
was very unhappy. I'm thinking your 'myth busters' test is bull****.
Although small
and plastic, those props are going several thousand rpm, and they're
very sharp.

Here's a view of some of the damage caused with the airplane/drone
that caused the
problem, in some cases. It's in French, but you get the idea.
Imagine if those cuts
were in an eagle's neck? Or a foot joint?

http://chrismeme11.over-blog.com/article-36258812.html

Dunno. They were using a few different small hobby drones hitting a
ballistic gel dummy and watching it on a high speed camera.

This really comes down to this being a very light propeller driven by
a pretty weak motor. You can't compare that to the old 2 stroke model
airplanes.



Based on what I've read (and heard), the lithium/ion batteries used
in these hobbyist quads are more dangerous than the spinning
propellers.


Many are the lighter Lithium Polymer now which is supposed to be safer.


Supposed to be but lithium is lithium and it reacts violently to water
vapor ... just the humidity in the air can set it off. The safety
factor is in the packaging it's contained in. If it is compromised,
you have a problem.

I visited a lithium battery manufacturing plant once. The assembly
was done in a clean room where the humidity was maintained at 5
percent or less. As we were putting on our "monkey" suits in the lock
before entering the guy I was with warned me about how hard it would
be to breath when we entered the clean room. He wasn't kidding. When
we entered I gasped for air at first. 5 percent humidity is extremely
uncomfortable.




Interesting. The humidity in an airplane at altitude is also very low
and every seat has at least one lithium battery in their possession. I
wonder who, if anyone, regulates the packaging. Some lithium batteries
I have seen are in a very soft-sided package - almost like a ketchup
packet.

John H.[_5_] November 8th 15 08:44 PM

What could be nicer...
 
On Thu, 05 Nov 2015 19:40:49 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 05 Nov 2015 17:15:37 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Thu, 05 Nov 2015 01:30:39 -0500,
wrote:

On Wed, 04 Nov 2015 18:18:20 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 04 Nov 2015 15:56:06 -0500,
wrote:

On Wed, 04 Nov 2015 14:45:37 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Tue, 3 Nov 2015 17:01:24 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

...eagle takes down annoying drone:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hr-xBtVU4lg

Hope this happens everywhere...

:)

No you don't, dumb****. What happened to the eagle (if that's what it was). Those
propellers will easily take off a finger, let alone cut up an eagle, or hawk or any
other bird, very badly. You'll note the drone is still transmitting, which means the
owner can easily retrieve and repair it.

No one knows what happened to the bird. I hope it made it.

And I hope you learned something.

Myth busters tested drones. All but the biggest were pretty much
harmless. Some of the big commercial ones with carbon fiber blades can
leave a mark ;-)

I've seen the damage a plastic airplane propeller going at a much slower rpm can do
to a leather covered ottoman corner. Ate right through it to the stuffing. My wife
was very unhappy. I'm thinking your 'myth busters' test is bull****. Although small
and plastic, those props are going several thousand rpm, and they're very sharp.

Here's a view of some of the damage caused with the airplane/drone that caused the
problem, in some cases. It's in French, but you get the idea. Imagine if those cuts
were in an eagle's neck? Or a foot joint?

http://chrismeme11.over-blog.com/article-36258812.html

Dunno. They were using a few different small hobby drones hitting a
ballistic gel dummy and watching it on a high speed camera.

This really comes down to this being a very light propeller driven by
a pretty weak motor. You can't compare that to the old 2 stroke model
airplanes.


Wrong. Do some research on these 'weak' little motors.




http://www.discovery.com/tv-shows/my...s-kill-people/


Well, I suppose all the cuts in the article I cited could have been fake. I know this
was caused by a plastic propeller on an electric motor.

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2...1/P1010681.jpg

Yes, they were using small drones, with small motors and very flimsy propellers. Not
all drones are small, not all have very small motors, and not all have very flimsy
propellers. The flimsy propellers will not stand up to a decent breeze.

As to a comparison between gas and electric:


"With the changes in rc electric motor technology it is possible to fly ANY size
model using rc plane electric motors. The biggest leap in making this possible has
been two fold. First we have model airplane electric engines that are powerful
enough, not to mention much more efficient, that they rival or even surpass
gas/slimers/smokers/nitro hogs, or whatever else you may call rc airplane gas
engines."

"Example: Hangar 9 Arrow with a .40 size gas engine would require an electric rc
motor equivalent to an AXI 2826/12 External Rotor Brushless. "
[from: http://www.rcmb.org/Electric_Info/glow_elec_bonus4.pdf]

What is an AXI 2826?12 External Rotor Brushless?

http://www.hobbyexpress.com/brushless_axi2826.htm

Note the specs: Motor Diameter 1 3/8"

And I'm sure you'll recall the .40 gasser was a decent sized engine with a propeller
that could do some serious damage.

Yup, you're probably right that the drone might not be as bad as a load of buckshot.
Might not cut through all those feathers. But then again, it just might catch the
bird in the neck, in an eye, or on a wing tip.

In any case, wishing more eagles would attack drones is, IMHO, pretty friggin'
stupid.

--

Ban idiots, not guns!

John H.[_5_] November 8th 15 08:48 PM

What could be nicer...
 
On Thu, 5 Nov 2015 19:42:55 -0500, Jerry Sauk wrote:

Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/5/2015 4:31 PM, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 4 Nov 2015 15:07:17 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:

Just saw a news items about drones. There is some kind of exhibition
in town with 40 exhibitors and 200 delegates.
If a person was interested in one of the toys it might be worth the
price of admission.

Flying RC airplanes is, IMHO, fun. I've flown the multirotors, but
don't get a kick
out of it. Except for small ones for the grandkids, I'd not be
interested in buying
one. And, I've found that flying a helicopter and then flying an
airplane pose a
problem. 'Up' for a helicopter is 'down' for an airplane using the
transmitter
controls. That can get interesting.


Hold one or the other controller upside down. :-)



Or reverse that controller. Many have a switch for that.


Most likely. Setting up a transmitter is complex as hell.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxWhzYzMEPY

That is 'Part 1' of a three part video on how to set up the transmitter I've got.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

John H.[_5_] November 8th 15 09:14 PM

What could be nicer...
 
On Fri, 6 Nov 2015 22:27:54 -0500, Jerry Sauk wrote:

Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/5/2015 7:38 PM, Jerry Sauk wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/5/2015 1:30 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 04 Nov 2015 18:18:20 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 04 Nov 2015 15:56:06 -0500,
wrote:

On Wed, 04 Nov 2015 14:45:37 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Tue, 3 Nov 2015 17:01:24 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

...eagle takes down annoying drone:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hr-xBtVU4lg

Hope this happens everywhere...

:)

No you don't, dumb****. What happened to the eagle (if that's what
it was). Those
propellers will easily take off a finger, let alone cut up an
eagle, or hawk or any
other bird, very badly. You'll note the drone is still
transmitting, which means the
owner can easily retrieve and repair it.

No one knows what happened to the bird. I hope it made it.

And I hope you learned something.

Myth busters tested drones. All but the biggest were pretty much
harmless. Some of the big commercial ones with carbon fiber
blades can
leave a mark ;-)

I've seen the damage a plastic airplane propeller going at a much
slower rpm can do
to a leather covered ottoman corner. Ate right through it to the
stuffing. My wife
was very unhappy. I'm thinking your 'myth busters' test is bull****.
Although small
and plastic, those props are going several thousand rpm, and they're
very sharp.

Here's a view of some of the damage caused with the airplane/drone
that caused the
problem, in some cases. It's in French, but you get the idea.
Imagine if those cuts
were in an eagle's neck? Or a foot joint?

http://chrismeme11.over-blog.com/article-36258812.html

Dunno. They were using a few different small hobby drones hitting a
ballistic gel dummy and watching it on a high speed camera.

This really comes down to this being a very light propeller driven by
a pretty weak motor. You can't compare that to the old 2 stroke model
airplanes.



Based on what I've read (and heard), the lithium/ion batteries used
in these hobbyist quads are more dangerous than the spinning
propellers.


Many are the lighter Lithium Polymer now which is supposed to be safer.


Supposed to be but lithium is lithium and it reacts violently to water
vapor ... just the humidity in the air can set it off. The safety
factor is in the packaging it's contained in. If it is compromised,
you have a problem.

I visited a lithium battery manufacturing plant once. The assembly
was done in a clean room where the humidity was maintained at 5
percent or less. As we were putting on our "monkey" suits in the lock
before entering the guy I was with warned me about how hard it would
be to breath when we entered the clean room. He wasn't kidding. When
we entered I gasped for air at first. 5 percent humidity is extremely
uncomfortable.




Interesting. The humidity in an airplane at altitude is also very low
and every seat has at least one lithium battery in their possession. I
wonder who, if anyone, regulates the packaging. Some lithium batteries
I have seen are in a very soft-sided package - almost like a ketchup
packet.


All of my lithium polymer batteries are 'soft sided'. They can expand and contract,
but they're a bit stronger than a ketchup packet. I've had one expand quite a bit
when severely discharged. Luckily I was able to salvage it following a tip in a
forum.
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[email protected] November 9th 15 03:25 AM

What could be nicer...
 
On Sun, 08 Nov 2015 15:44:19 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Thu, 05 Nov 2015 19:40:49 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 05 Nov 2015 17:15:37 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Thu, 05 Nov 2015 01:30:39 -0500,
wrote:

On Wed, 04 Nov 2015 18:18:20 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 04 Nov 2015 15:56:06 -0500,
wrote:

On Wed, 04 Nov 2015 14:45:37 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Tue, 3 Nov 2015 17:01:24 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

...eagle takes down annoying drone:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hr-xBtVU4lg

Hope this happens everywhere...

:)

No you don't, dumb****. What happened to the eagle (if that's what it was). Those
propellers will easily take off a finger, let alone cut up an eagle, or hawk or any
other bird, very badly. You'll note the drone is still transmitting, which means the
owner can easily retrieve and repair it.

No one knows what happened to the bird. I hope it made it.

And I hope you learned something.

Myth busters tested drones. All but the biggest were pretty much
harmless. Some of the big commercial ones with carbon fiber blades can
leave a mark ;-)

I've seen the damage a plastic airplane propeller going at a much slower rpm can do
to a leather covered ottoman corner. Ate right through it to the stuffing. My wife
was very unhappy. I'm thinking your 'myth busters' test is bull****. Although small
and plastic, those props are going several thousand rpm, and they're very sharp.

Here's a view of some of the damage caused with the airplane/drone that caused the
problem, in some cases. It's in French, but you get the idea. Imagine if those cuts
were in an eagle's neck? Or a foot joint?

http://chrismeme11.over-blog.com/article-36258812.html

Dunno. They were using a few different small hobby drones hitting a
ballistic gel dummy and watching it on a high speed camera.

This really comes down to this being a very light propeller driven by
a pretty weak motor. You can't compare that to the old 2 stroke model
airplanes.

Wrong. Do some research on these 'weak' little motors.




http://www.discovery.com/tv-shows/my...s-kill-people/


Well, I suppose all the cuts in the article I cited could have been fake. I know this
was caused by a plastic propeller on an electric motor.

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2...1/P1010681.jpg

Yes, they were using small drones, with small motors and very flimsy propellers. Not
all drones are small, not all have very small motors, and not all have very flimsy
propellers. The flimsy propellers will not stand up to a decent breeze.

As to a comparison between gas and electric:


"With the changes in rc electric motor technology it is possible to fly ANY size
model using rc plane electric motors. The biggest leap in making this possible has
been two fold. First we have model airplane electric engines that are powerful
enough, not to mention much more efficient, that they rival or even surpass
gas/slimers/smokers/nitro hogs, or whatever else you may call rc airplane gas
engines."

"Example: Hangar 9 Arrow with a .40 size gas engine would require an electric rc
motor equivalent to an AXI 2826/12 External Rotor Brushless. "
[from: http://www.rcmb.org/Electric_Info/glow_elec_bonus4.pdf]

What is an AXI 2826?12 External Rotor Brushless?

http://www.hobbyexpress.com/brushless_axi2826.htm

Note the specs: Motor Diameter 1 3/8"

And I'm sure you'll recall the .40 gasser was a decent sized engine with a propeller
that could do some serious damage.

Yup, you're probably right that the drone might not be as bad as a load of buckshot.
Might not cut through all those feathers. But then again, it just might catch the
bird in the neck, in an eye, or on a wing tip.

In any case, wishing more eagles would attack drones is, IMHO, pretty friggin'
stupid.


OK you win, they are flying death machines but I think I would keep it
to myself if you like flying them ;-)

John H.[_5_] November 9th 15 11:22 AM

What could be nicer...
 
On Sun, 08 Nov 2015 22:25:23 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 08 Nov 2015 15:44:19 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Thu, 05 Nov 2015 19:40:49 -0500,
wrote:

On Thu, 05 Nov 2015 17:15:37 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Thu, 05 Nov 2015 01:30:39 -0500,
wrote:

On Wed, 04 Nov 2015 18:18:20 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 04 Nov 2015 15:56:06 -0500,
wrote:

On Wed, 04 Nov 2015 14:45:37 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Tue, 3 Nov 2015 17:01:24 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

...eagle takes down annoying drone:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hr-xBtVU4lg

Hope this happens everywhere...

:)

No you don't, dumb****. What happened to the eagle (if that's what it was). Those
propellers will easily take off a finger, let alone cut up an eagle, or hawk or any
other bird, very badly. You'll note the drone is still transmitting, which means the
owner can easily retrieve and repair it.

No one knows what happened to the bird. I hope it made it.

And I hope you learned something.

Myth busters tested drones. All but the biggest were pretty much
harmless. Some of the big commercial ones with carbon fiber blades can
leave a mark ;-)

I've seen the damage a plastic airplane propeller going at a much slower rpm can do
to a leather covered ottoman corner. Ate right through it to the stuffing. My wife
was very unhappy. I'm thinking your 'myth busters' test is bull****. Although small
and plastic, those props are going several thousand rpm, and they're very sharp.

Here's a view of some of the damage caused with the airplane/drone that caused the
problem, in some cases. It's in French, but you get the idea. Imagine if those cuts
were in an eagle's neck? Or a foot joint?

http://chrismeme11.over-blog.com/article-36258812.html

Dunno. They were using a few different small hobby drones hitting a
ballistic gel dummy and watching it on a high speed camera.

This really comes down to this being a very light propeller driven by
a pretty weak motor. You can't compare that to the old 2 stroke model
airplanes.

Wrong. Do some research on these 'weak' little motors.



http://www.discovery.com/tv-shows/my...s-kill-people/


Well, I suppose all the cuts in the article I cited could have been fake. I know this
was caused by a plastic propeller on an electric motor.

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2...1/P1010681.jpg

Yes, they were using small drones, with small motors and very flimsy propellers. Not
all drones are small, not all have very small motors, and not all have very flimsy
propellers. The flimsy propellers will not stand up to a decent breeze.

As to a comparison between gas and electric:


"With the changes in rc electric motor technology it is possible to fly ANY size
model using rc plane electric motors. The biggest leap in making this possible has
been two fold. First we have model airplane electric engines that are powerful
enough, not to mention much more efficient, that they rival or even surpass
gas/slimers/smokers/nitro hogs, or whatever else you may call rc airplane gas
engines."

"Example: Hangar 9 Arrow with a .40 size gas engine would require an electric rc
motor equivalent to an AXI 2826/12 External Rotor Brushless. "
[from: http://www.rcmb.org/Electric_Info/glow_elec_bonus4.pdf]

What is an AXI 2826?12 External Rotor Brushless?

http://www.hobbyexpress.com/brushless_axi2826.htm

Note the specs: Motor Diameter 1 3/8"

And I'm sure you'll recall the .40 gasser was a decent sized engine with a propeller
that could do some serious damage.

Yup, you're probably right that the drone might not be as bad as a load of buckshot.
Might not cut through all those feathers. But then again, it just might catch the
bird in the neck, in an eye, or on a wing tip.

In any case, wishing more eagles would attack drones is, IMHO, pretty friggin'
stupid.


OK you win, they are flying death machines but I think I would keep it
to myself if you like flying them ;-)


We're flying machines that could hurt a bird (or a human for that matter)!
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Ban idiots, not guns!


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