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On Mon, 09 Nov 2015 06:22:41 -0500, John H.
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On Sun, 08 Nov 2015 22:25:23 -0500, wrote:


OK you win, they are flying death machines but I think I would keep it
to myself if you like flying them ;-)

We're flying machines that could hurt a bird (or a human for that matter)!


If you say that out loud about the ones the FAA considers hobby
machines, get ready for much more regulation.


There have been plenty of people hurt, and a couple that I know of
killed, by RC airplanes over the years. That has not driven any
regulation. The whole problem with the new "drones" (more properly
quadcopters, drones are sophisticated military killing machines) is that
they can be flown nearly anywhere by anyone with the cash to buy one and
with minimal skills.

The RC hobby was, and still is, almost entirely self-regulated since the
skills to fly an airplane or heli are slowly learned, require assistance,
and require a sizable area in which to learn and fly. That almost always
means there is a club with its rules and regs, and the requisite
membership in a RC organization that provides landowner and member insurance coverage.

Unfortunately the proliferation of inexpensive gyro stabilized
quadcopters with cameras, coupled with a few ignorant assholes that have
bought them and use them improperly, has driven proposed regulation that
may affect large groups of very safety conscious, responsible RC hobbyists.


Drones are not military killing machines, been lots of drones over the
years. Lots were used as targets by military gunners and pilots.

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On Monday, November 9, 2015 at 5:29:26 PM UTC-5, Califbill wrote:
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On Monday, November 9, 2015 at 11:49:59 AM UTC-5, wrote:
On Mon, 09 Nov 2015 06:22:41 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Sun, 08 Nov 2015 22:25:23 -0500, wrote:


OK you win, they are flying death machines but I think I would keep it
to myself if you like flying them ;-)

We're flying machines that could hurt a bird (or a human for that matter)!

If you say that out loud about the ones the FAA considers hobby
machines, get ready for much more regulation.


There have been plenty of people hurt, and a couple that I know of
killed, by RC airplanes over the years. That has not driven any
regulation. The whole problem with the new "drones" (more properly
quadcopters, drones are sophisticated military killing machines) is that
they can be flown nearly anywhere by anyone with the cash to buy one and
with minimal skills.

The RC hobby was, and still is, almost entirely self-regulated since the
skills to fly an airplane or heli are slowly learned, require assistance,
and require a sizable area in which to learn and fly. That almost always
means there is a club with its rules and regs, and the requisite
membership in a RC organization that provides landowner and member insurance coverage.

Unfortunately the proliferation of inexpensive gyro stabilized
quadcopters with cameras, coupled with a few ignorant assholes that have
bought them and use them improperly, has driven proposed regulation that
may affect large groups of very safety conscious, responsible RC hobbyists.


Drones are not military killing machines, been lots of drones over the
years. Lots were used as targets by military gunners and pilots.


I realize that. But the general population relates the word "drone" to the unmanned airplanes equipped with a missile that takes out a house or vehicle with a "pilot" sitting at a control panel maybe 100's of miles away. It's in the general vocabulary now as a noun for a quadcopter. Few really knew or cared about about the pilot-less and towed drones you are talking about.
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