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On Fri, 16 Oct 2015 06:59:00 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

Now metals are fed into huge shredders to fill export containers

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lXfitusZ9qY

That is mixed scrap, not near as valuable as sorted (clean) metals.
I assume that waste stream goes through magnetic separation at least
but you still need a way to separate aluminum and copper from the
plastic and glass.
That is easier done in a 3d world plant where labor cost, worker
safety and environmental concerns are not as important.
.......
Greg, that's true, but with modern techniques, thee are easier ways to separate metals then ever, so mixed becomes in-mixed in better fashion than say 20 years ago

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On Fri, 16 Oct 2015 08:33:39 -0700, Califbill billnews wrote:

wrote:
On Fri, 16 Oct 2015 06:59:00 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

Now metals are fed into huge shredders to fill export containers

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lXfitusZ9qY

That is mixed scrap, not near as valuable as sorted (clean) metals.
I assume that waste stream goes through magnetic separation at least
but you still need a way to separate aluminum and copper from the
plastic and glass.
That is easier done in a 3d world plant where labor cost, worker
safety and environmental concerns are not as important.


Here is a link to video on the process. My dad did part of the building on
the original car shredder back in the 70's. Said had the biggest amount of
rebar and concrete in the base.
http://www.schnitzersteel.com/metals...g_process.aspx


There seems to be a lot of labor in the picking process there and it
still looks like a pretty expensive process. That machine isn't cheap.
It is easy to see why "clean" copper and aluminum can get a better
price at the scrap yard.
..

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On Fri, 16 Oct 2015 09:16:30 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Fri, 16 Oct 2015 06:59:00 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

Now metals are fed into huge shredders to fill export containers

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lXfitusZ9qY

That is mixed scrap, not near as valuable as sorted (clean) metals.
I assume that waste stream goes through magnetic separation at least
but you still need a way to separate aluminum and copper from the
plastic and glass.
That is easier done in a 3d world plant where labor cost, worker
safety and environmental concerns are not as important.
......
Greg, that's true, but with modern techniques, thee are easier ways to separate metals then ever, so mixed becomes in-mixed in better fashion than say 20 years ago
I guess I am pretty far away from that kind of recycling facility.
Our guys are more "old school" and they like to ship clean metal.
We have people willing to do that work before they bring in the scrap.

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On 10/16/2015 11:47 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:


You need to expand your horizons and stop paying so much attention to
libertarian nonsense and right-wing media. Perhaps you can audit a local
university liberal arts course in critical thinking.



There you go again.

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On Fri, 16 Oct 2015 13:09:50 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 10/16/2015 11:47 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:


You need to expand your horizons and stop paying so much attention to
libertarian nonsense and right-wing media. Perhaps you can audit a local
university liberal arts course in critical thinking.



There you go again.


Harry seems to think that a degree he got during the Nixon
administration from a college nobody has ever heard of, allows him to
denigrate others.

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On Fri, 16 Oct 2015 06:59:00 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

Now metals are fed into huge shredders to fill export containers

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lXfitusZ9qY

===

Amazing, 710 hp.

I was really surprised when they put the engine blocks in there.

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On 10/16/15 2:26 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 16 Oct 2015 13:09:50 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 10/16/2015 11:47 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:


You need to expand your horizons and stop paying so much attention to
libertarian nonsense and right-wing media. Perhaps you can audit a local
university liberal arts course in critical thinking.



There you go again.


Harry seems to think that a degree he got during the Nixon
administration from a college nobody has ever heard of, allows him to
denigrate others.



I got my first college degree during the Johnson Administration and my
second during the Nixon Administration. The concepts of and teaching of
courses in critical thinking haven't changed, and, considering your
earlier post in this thread, you might benefit from those courses.

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Keyser Söze wrote:
On 10/16/15 2:26 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 16 Oct 2015 13:09:50 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 10/16/2015 11:47 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:


You need to expand your horizons and stop paying so much attention to
libertarian nonsense and right-wing media. Perhaps you can audit a local
university liberal arts course in critical thinking.



There you go again.


Harry seems to think that a degree he got during the Nixon
administration from a college nobody has ever heard of, allows him to
denigrate others.



I got my first college degree during the Johnson Administration and my
second during the Nixon Administration. The concepts of and teaching of
courses in critical thinking haven't changed, and, considering your
earlier post in this thread, you might benefit from those courses.


According to you a degree is obsolete at time of receipt.

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On 10/16/15 3:45 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 10/16/15 2:26 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 16 Oct 2015 13:09:50 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 10/16/2015 11:47 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:


You need to expand your horizons and stop paying so much attention to
libertarian nonsense and right-wing media. Perhaps you can audit a local
university liberal arts course in critical thinking.



There you go again.


Harry seems to think that a degree he got during the Nixon
administration from a college nobody has ever heard of, allows him to
denigrate others.



I got my first college degree during the Johnson Administration and my
second during the Nixon Administration. The concepts of and teaching of
courses in critical thinking haven't changed, and, considering your
earlier post in this thread, you might benefit from those courses.


According to you a degree is obsolete at time of receipt.



You are not a careful reader.

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On 10/16/2015 3:07 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 10/16/15 2:26 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 16 Oct 2015 13:09:50 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 10/16/2015 11:47 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:


You need to expand your horizons and stop paying so much attention to
libertarian nonsense and right-wing media. Perhaps you can audit a
local
university liberal arts course in critical thinking.



There you go again.


Harry seems to think that a degree he got during the Nixon
administration from a college nobody has ever heard of, allows him to
denigrate others.



I got my first college degree during the Johnson Administration and my
second during the Nixon Administration. The concepts of and teaching of
courses in critical thinking haven't changed, and, considering your
earlier post in this thread, you might benefit from those courses.

Critical thinking skills are developed in high school for crying out
loud. The cornerstone of critical thinking is wondering and asking
"why"? In this regard I suspect Greg has always been a more active
"critical thinker" than most, including you.

Your comments make you sound very foolish sometimes.