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Alex[_5_] October 11th 15 04:08 AM

#41
 
This one is nice. A Ruger New Model Single Six in .22LR and stainless
steel. Brand new but made in 1975. An unfired 40 year-old gun from the
manufacture's collection. It also comes with the original box,
manuals, and a certificate of authenticity signed by Mike Fifer.

Almost time for another safe!


True North[_2_] October 11th 15 02:01 PM

#41
 
Better get a few more, Ditzy. The boogie man is coming.

Justan Olphart[_2_] October 11th 15 02:09 PM

#41
 
On 10/11/2015 8:38 AM, True North wrote:
eyser Söze
On 10/11/15 9:01 AM, True North wrote:
Better get a few more, Ditzy. The boogie man is coming.



"The jerk bought *another* gun? It's going to be damned funny when
someone breaks into his tract house and steals them all..."


Don't think it's really smart for Ditzy to be bragging about all those guns on the Internet. I imagine they have more than their fair share of criminals in Pompano Beach and I doubt there are too many Ditzy Dan Krugers there.


You should offer your sage advice to Harry, the gun nut, Krause.

Keyser Söze October 11th 15 02:14 PM

#41
 
On 10/11/15 9:01 AM, True North wrote:
Better get a few more, Ditzy. The boogie man is coming.



The jerk bought *another* gun? It's going to be damned funny when
someone breaks into his tract house and steals them all...

Tim October 11th 15 02:19 PM

#41
 
On Saturday, October 10, 2015 at 10:08:59 PM UTC-5, Alex wrote:
This one is nice. A Ruger New Model Single Six in .22LR and stainless
steel. Brand new but made in 1975. An unfired 40 year-old gun from the
manufacture's collection. It also comes with the original box,
manuals, and a certificate of authenticity signed by Mike Fifer.

Almost time for another safe!


Though I've never been a fan of a .22 six gun, I have shot the Rugers. They are a high quality pistol. a friend has a quantity of Ruger pistols in his collection. Some are presentation grade.

True North[_2_] October 11th 15 02:38 PM

#41
 
eyser Söze
On 10/11/15 9:01 AM, True North wrote:
Better get a few more, Ditzy. The boogie man is coming.



"The jerk bought *another* gun? It's going to be damned funny when
someone breaks into his tract house and steals them all..."


Don't think it's really smart for Ditzy to be bragging about all those guns on the Internet. I imagine they have more than their fair share of criminals in Pompano Beach and I doubt there are too many Ditzy Dan Krugers there.

jps October 12th 15 08:49 PM

#41
 
On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 23:08:57 -0400, Alex wrote:

This one is nice. A Ruger New Model Single Six in .22LR and stainless
steel. Brand new but made in 1975. An unfired 40 year-old gun from the
manufacture's collection. It also comes with the original box,
manuals, and a certificate of authenticity signed by Mike Fifer.

Almost time for another safe!


The only question is which of them will be your choice to off yourself
when you're ready to go? 17,000 suicides by gun each year in the US
and it's been proven that guns in the house increase the odds of a
suicide.

Califbill October 12th 15 09:19 PM

#41
 
jps wrote:
On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 23:08:57 -0400, Alex wrote:

This one is nice. A Ruger New Model Single Six in .22LR and stainless
steel. Brand new but made in 1975. An unfired 40 year-old gun from the
manufacture's collection. It also comes with the original box,
manuals, and a certificate of authenticity signed by Mike Fifer.

Almost time for another safe!


The only question is which of them will be your choice to off yourself
when you're ready to go? 17,000 suicides by gun each year in the US
and it's been proven that guns in the house increase the odds of a
suicide.


So? Maybe if we made it easier, the nutcases would off themselves before
shooting a bunch of innocents and suicide by cop.


jps October 12th 15 09:54 PM

#41
 
On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 13:19:19 -0700, Califbill billnews wrote:

jps wrote:
On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 23:08:57 -0400, Alex wrote:

This one is nice. A Ruger New Model Single Six in .22LR and stainless
steel. Brand new but made in 1975. An unfired 40 year-old gun from the
manufacture's collection. It also comes with the original box,
manuals, and a certificate of authenticity signed by Mike Fifer.

Almost time for another safe!


The only question is which of them will be your choice to off yourself
when you're ready to go? 17,000 suicides by gun each year in the US
and it's been proven that guns in the house increase the odds of a
suicide.


So? Maybe if we made it easier, the nutcases would off themselves before
shooting a bunch of innocents and suicide by cop.


I would expect no less calloused a response from someone who clearly
hasn't been touched by a suicide in the family nor are you apparently
capable of the empathy required to understand the plight of the
severely depressed, the imbalanced or the family surrounding them.

[email protected] October 12th 15 10:37 PM

#41
 
On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 13:54:36 -0700, jps wrote:

I would expect no less calloused a response from someone who clearly
hasn't been touched by a suicide in the family


===

My sincerest sympathy if that is the case with you. Don't blame the
gun however. That was just a method of convenience.

Califbill October 13th 15 12:00 AM

#41
 
jps wrote:
On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 13:19:19 -0700, Califbill billnews wrote:

jps wrote:
On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 23:08:57 -0400, Alex wrote:

This one is nice. A Ruger New Model Single Six in .22LR and stainless
steel. Brand new but made in 1975. An unfired 40 year-old gun from the
manufacture's collection. It also comes with the original box,
manuals, and a certificate of authenticity signed by Mike Fifer.

Almost time for another safe!

The only question is which of them will be your choice to off yourself
when you're ready to go? 17,000 suicides by gun each year in the US
and it's been proven that guns in the house increase the odds of a
suicide.


So? Maybe if we made it easier, the nutcases would off themselves before
shooting a bunch of innocents and suicide by cop.


I would expect no less calloused a response from someone who clearly
hasn't been touched by a suicide in the family nor are you apparently
capable of the empathy required to understand the plight of the
severely depressed, the imbalanced or the family surrounding them.


Actually I do have empathy. One of my good friends in high school,
committed suicide via carbon monoxide poisoning over a first love. And my
Mother in law was bipolar. But I feel it is better they commit suicide
with just them self, instead of taking a bunch of innocents with them.
Maybe is a cold attitude, but I believe fair.


Alex[_5_] October 13th 15 01:31 AM

#41
 
True North wrote:
Better get a few more, Ditzy. The boogie man is coming.


It's a collection, ****-for-brains. I have a dozen that I bought that I
will never fire.

Learn how to quote properly and not have it appear as a new thread.

Alex[_5_] October 13th 15 01:33 AM

#41
 
Justan Olphart wrote:
On 10/11/2015 8:38 AM, True North wrote:
eyser Söze
On 10/11/15 9:01 AM, True North wrote:
Better get a few more, Ditzy. The boogie man is coming.



"The jerk bought *another* gun? It's going to be damned funny when
someone breaks into his tract house and steals them all..."


Don't think it's really smart for Ditzy to be bragging about all
those guns on the Internet. I imagine they have more than their fair
share of criminals in Pompano Beach and I doubt there are too many
Ditzy Dan Krugers there.


You should offer your sage advice to Harry, the gun nut, Krause.

Krause a jealous, narcissistic, deadbeat asshole. He can't stand anyone
enjoying life. Donnie is a lemming.

Alex[_5_] October 13th 15 01:42 AM

#41
 
Tim wrote:
On Saturday, October 10, 2015 at 10:08:59 PM UTC-5, Alex wrote:
This one is nice. A Ruger New Model Single Six in .22LR and stainless
steel. Brand new but made in 1975. An unfired 40 year-old gun from the
manufacture's collection. It also comes with the original box,
manuals, and a certificate of authenticity signed by Mike Fifer.

Almost time for another safe!

Though I've never been a fan of a .22 six gun, I have shot the Rugers. They are a high quality pistol. a friend has a quantity of Ruger pistols in his collection. Some are presentation grade.

I'm not a fan of them either - particularly in single action as a target
revolver. It is for my collection only and will remain unfired.


Alex[_5_] October 13th 15 01:44 AM

#41
 
jps wrote:
On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 23:08:57 -0400, Alex wrote:

This one is nice. A Ruger New Model Single Six in .22LR and stainless
steel. Brand new but made in 1975. An unfired 40 year-old gun from the
manufacture's collection. It also comes with the original box,
manuals, and a certificate of authenticity signed by Mike Fifer.

Almost time for another safe!

The only question is which of them will be your choice to off yourself
when you're ready to go? 17,000 suicides by gun each year in the US
and it's been proven that guns in the house increase the odds of a
suicide.


Funny stuff. Ask your buddy Harry. He seems to be shopping for just
the right one.

[email protected] October 14th 15 03:05 PM

#41
 
On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 12:49:44 -0700, jps wrote:

On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 23:08:57 -0400, Alex wrote:

This one is nice. A Ruger New Model Single Six in .22LR and stainless
steel. Brand new but made in 1975. An unfired 40 year-old gun from the
manufacture's collection. It also comes with the original box,
manuals, and a certificate of authenticity signed by Mike Fifer.

Almost time for another safe!


The only question is which of them will be your choice to off yourself
when you're ready to go? 17,000 suicides by gun each year in the US
and it's been proven that guns in the house increase the odds of a
suicide.



[email protected] October 14th 15 03:07 PM

#41
 
On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 12:49:44 -0700, jps wrote:

The only question is which of them will be your choice to off yourself
when you're ready to go? 17,000 suicides by gun each year in the US
and it's been proven that guns in the house increase the odds of a
suicide.

The odds of a suicide or simply the odds that they use the gun for the
suicide?
Lets go look at one of those examples of a gun free country, Japan.
They have a higher suicide rate than the US.


Keyser Söze October 14th 15 07:00 PM

#41
 
On 10/14/15 10:07 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 12:49:44 -0700, jps wrote:

The only question is which of them will be your choice to off yourself
when you're ready to go? 17,000 suicides by gun each year in the US
and it's been proven that guns in the house increase the odds of a
suicide.

The odds of a suicide or simply the odds that they use the gun for the
suicide?
Lets go look at one of those examples of a gun free country, Japan.
They have a higher suicide rate than the US.



What's the mass murder rate in Japan?

[email protected] October 14th 15 08:43 PM

#41
 
On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 14:00:38 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 10/14/15 10:07 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 12:49:44 -0700, jps wrote:

The only question is which of them will be your choice to off yourself
when you're ready to go? 17,000 suicides by gun each year in the US
and it's been proven that guns in the house increase the odds of a
suicide.

The odds of a suicide or simply the odds that they use the gun for the
suicide?
Lets go look at one of those examples of a gun free country, Japan.
They have a higher suicide rate than the US.



What's the mass murder rate in Japan?


JPS was talking about suicide, the bulk of gun deaths here.
Mass killing makes the news but it doesn't even bump the needle on the
murder rate unless you count gang shootings where they kill several
people at once.



Keyser Söze October 14th 15 09:01 PM

#41
 
On 10/14/15 3:43 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 14:00:38 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 10/14/15 10:07 AM,
wrote:
On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 12:49:44 -0700, jps wrote:

The only question is which of them will be your choice to off yourself
when you're ready to go? 17,000 suicides by gun each year in the US
and it's been proven that guns in the house increase the odds of a
suicide.
The odds of a suicide or simply the odds that they use the gun for the
suicide?
Lets go look at one of those examples of a gun free country, Japan.
They have a higher suicide rate than the US.



What's the mass murder rate in Japan?


JPS was talking about suicide, the bulk of gun deaths here.
Mass killing makes the news but it doesn't even bump the needle on the
murder rate unless you count gang shootings where they kill several
people at once.




Gotta love how hard you fellas work to minimize the mass murder rate here.

BTW, the suicide rate for males in Japan is 26.9 per 100,000, compared
to 19.4 per 100,000 here.

Suicide is a holdover of Japanese society during its feudal times and in
World War II. I suppose mass murder is a holdover of American society.

[email protected] October 15th 15 01:16 AM

#41
 
On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 16:01:23 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 10/14/15 3:43 PM, wrote:



What's the mass murder rate in Japan?


JPS was talking about suicide, the bulk of gun deaths here.
Mass killing makes the news but it doesn't even bump the needle on the
murder rate unless you count gang shootings where they kill several
people at once.




Gotta love how hard you fellas work to minimize the mass murder rate here.


The mass murder rate compared to the murder rate is pretty much
insignificant.
If you compare your chances of dying in a mass murder to what it is
for a 14-30 year old black man in Baltimore, you are getting down to
the "killed by a terrorist" kind of numbers.

BTW, the suicide rate for males in Japan is 26.9 per 100,000, compared
to 19.4 per 100,000 here.
Suicide is a holdover of Japanese society during its feudal times and in
World War II. I suppose mass murder is a holdover of American society.


But they seem very good at it without using guns.

BTW are you following the story about the 12 year old who ran into a
store with a loaded rifle (New Zealand). He threatened to kill
everyone. Everything was there but the willingness to actually shoot
someone. Do you really think culture has nothing to do with this?


Boating All Out October 15th 15 01:34 AM

#41
 
In article 9lrt1btkj1dvb19k8no9jek6hv48d35ve1@
4ax.com, says...


BTW are you following the story about the 12 year old who ran into a
store with a loaded rifle (New Zealand). He threatened to kill
everyone. Everything was there but the willingness to actually shoot
someone. Do you really think culture has nothing to do with this?


Sure, they're not exposed to our gun culture.


Califbill October 15th 15 02:34 AM

#41
 
Boating All Out wrote:
In article 9lrt1btkj1dvb19k8no9jek6hv48d35ve1@
4ax.com, says...


BTW are you following the story about the 12 year old who ran into a
store with a loaded rifle (New Zealand). He threatened to kill
everyone. Everything was there but the willingness to actually shoot
someone. Do you really think culture has nothing to do with this?


Sure, they're not exposed to our gun culture.



They are probably not exposed to the RAP culture.


Justan Olphart[_2_] October 15th 15 02:58 PM

#41
 
On 10/15/2015 9:51 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 10/15/15 10:29 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 19:34:29 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote:

In article 9lrt1btkj1dvb19k8no9jek6hv48d35ve1@
4ax.com,
says...


BTW are you following the story about the 12 year old who ran into a
store with a loaded rifle (New Zealand). He threatened to kill
everyone. Everything was there but the willingness to actually shoot
someone. Do you really think culture has nothing to do with this?

Sure, they're not exposed to our gun culture.


Now explain that to Harry who says they watch all of the same movies
and play the same video games.



Our "gun culture" is built on a lot more than movies and video games,
which are pretty much the same in all modern western countries.


And you seem totally immersed in our gun culture. How did you get hooked?

[email protected] October 15th 15 03:29 PM

#41
 
On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 19:34:29 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote:

In article 9lrt1btkj1dvb19k8no9jek6hv48d35ve1@
4ax.com, says...


BTW are you following the story about the 12 year old who ran into a
store with a loaded rifle (New Zealand). He threatened to kill
everyone. Everything was there but the willingness to actually shoot
someone. Do you really think culture has nothing to do with this?


Sure, they're not exposed to our gun culture.


Now explain that to Harry who says they watch all of the same movies
and play the same video games.

Keyser Söze October 15th 15 03:51 PM

#41
 
On 10/15/15 10:29 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 19:34:29 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote:

In article 9lrt1btkj1dvb19k8no9jek6hv48d35ve1@
4ax.com,
says...


BTW are you following the story about the 12 year old who ran into a
store with a loaded rifle (New Zealand). He threatened to kill
everyone. Everything was there but the willingness to actually shoot
someone. Do you really think culture has nothing to do with this?


Sure, they're not exposed to our gun culture.


Now explain that to Harry who says they watch all of the same movies
and play the same video games.



Our "gun culture" is built on a lot more than movies and video games,
which are pretty much the same in all modern western countries.

[email protected] October 15th 15 04:46 PM

#41
 
On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 10:51:50 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 10/15/15 10:29 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 19:34:29 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote:

In article 9lrt1btkj1dvb19k8no9jek6hv48d35ve1@
4ax.com,
says...


BTW are you following the story about the 12 year old who ran into a
store with a loaded rifle (New Zealand). He threatened to kill
everyone. Everything was there but the willingness to actually shoot
someone. Do you really think culture has nothing to do with this?

Sure, they're not exposed to our gun culture.


Now explain that to Harry who says they watch all of the same movies
and play the same video games.



Our "gun culture" is built on a lot more than movies and video games,
which are pretty much the same in all modern western countries.


Explain that. What part of our gun culture here makes a 12 year old
more likely to actually shoot someone?
Since this kid had the rifle, availability had nothing to do with it.

Keyser Söze October 15th 15 05:21 PM

#41
 
On 10/15/15 11:46 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 10:51:50 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 10/15/15 10:29 AM,
wrote:
On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 19:34:29 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote:

In article 9lrt1btkj1dvb19k8no9jek6hv48d35ve1@
4ax.com,
says...


BTW are you following the story about the 12 year old who ran into a
store with a loaded rifle (New Zealand). He threatened to kill
everyone. Everything was there but the willingness to actually shoot
someone. Do you really think culture has nothing to do with this?

Sure, they're not exposed to our gun culture.

Now explain that to Harry who says they watch all of the same movies
and play the same video games.



Our "gun culture" is built on a lot more than movies and video games,
which are pretty much the same in all modern western countries.


Explain that. What part of our gun culture here makes a 12 year old
more likely to actually shoot someone?
Since this kid had the rifle, availability had nothing to do with it.



The easy availability of firearms, the failure to detect most of those
with a tendency towards violence, the tremendous number of shootings in
this country and the acceptance of it by people like you...

Califbill October 15th 15 05:41 PM

#41
 
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 10/15/15 11:46 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 10:51:50 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 10/15/15 10:29 AM,
wrote:
On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 19:34:29 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote:

In article 9lrt1btkj1dvb19k8no9jek6hv48d35ve1@
4ax.com,
says...


BTW are you following the story about the 12 year old who ran into a
store with a loaded rifle (New Zealand). He threatened to kill
everyone. Everything was there but the willingness to actually shoot
someone. Do you really think culture has nothing to do with this?

Sure, they're not exposed to our gun culture.

Now explain that to Harry who says they watch all of the same movies
and play the same video games.



Our "gun culture" is built on a lot more than movies and video games,
which are pretty much the same in all modern western countries.


Explain that. What part of our gun culture here makes a 12 year old
more likely to actually shoot someone?
Since this kid had the rifle, availability had nothing to do with it.



The easy availability of firearms, the failure to detect most of those
with a tendency towards violence, the tremendous number of shootings in
this country and the acceptance of it by people like you...


The NZ kid had availability.


Keyser Söze October 15th 15 05:49 PM

#41
 
On 10/15/15 12:41 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 10/15/15 11:46 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 10:51:50 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 10/15/15 10:29 AM,
wrote:
On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 19:34:29 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote:

In article 9lrt1btkj1dvb19k8no9jek6hv48d35ve1@
4ax.com,
says...


BTW are you following the story about the 12 year old who ran into a
store with a loaded rifle (New Zealand). He threatened to kill
everyone. Everything was there but the willingness to actually shoot
someone. Do you really think culture has nothing to do with this?

Sure, they're not exposed to our gun culture.

Now explain that to Harry who says they watch all of the same movies
and play the same video games.



Our "gun culture" is built on a lot more than movies and video games,
which are pretty much the same in all modern western countries.

Explain that. What part of our gun culture here makes a 12 year old
more likely to actually shoot someone?
Since this kid had the rifle, availability had nothing to do with it.



The easy availability of firearms, the failure to detect most of those
with a tendency towards violence, the tremendous number of shootings in
this country and the acceptance of it by people like you...


The NZ kid had availability.



Gosh, Bilious, didn't you see the part about "...the failure to detect
most of those with a tendency towards violence, the tremendous number of
shootings in this country and the acceptance of it by people like
you..." as differences between 'Merica and other modern western nations
where firearms are available?

Guess not.

Califbill October 15th 15 05:53 PM

#41
 
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 10/15/15 12:41 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 10/15/15 11:46 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 10:51:50 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 10/15/15 10:29 AM,
wrote:
On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 19:34:29 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote:

In article 9lrt1btkj1dvb19k8no9jek6hv48d35ve1@
4ax.com,
says...


BTW are you following the story about the 12 year old who ran into a
store with a loaded rifle (New Zealand). He threatened to kill
everyone. Everything was there but the willingness to actually shoot
someone. Do you really think culture has nothing to do with this?

Sure, they're not exposed to our gun culture.

Now explain that to Harry who says they watch all of the same movies
and play the same video games.



Our "gun culture" is built on a lot more than movies and video games,
which are pretty much the same in all modern western countries.

Explain that. What part of our gun culture here makes a 12 year old
more likely to actually shoot someone?
Since this kid had the rifle, availability had nothing to do with it.



The easy availability of firearms, the failure to detect most of those
with a tendency towards violence, the tremendous number of shootings in
this country and the acceptance of it by people like you...


The NZ kid had availability.



Gosh, Bilious, didn't you see the part about "...the failure to detect
most of those with a tendency towards violence, the tremendous number of
shootings in this country and the acceptance of it by people like
you..." as differences between 'Merica and other modern western nations
where firearms are available?

Guess not.


Did you miss the part where we do not accept the killings. We wonder why
so many. How many mass killings a year? How many killed a year in
Chicago? How many shootouts in Detroit, Chicago, DC kill or injure more
than most of the mass shootings? Is a culture, not availability of
firearms.


Keyser Söze October 15th 15 05:56 PM

#41
 
On 10/15/15 12:53 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 10/15/15 12:41 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 10/15/15 11:46 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 10:51:50 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 10/15/15 10:29 AM,
wrote:
On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 19:34:29 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote:

In article 9lrt1btkj1dvb19k8no9jek6hv48d35ve1@
4ax.com,
says...


BTW are you following the story about the 12 year old who ran into a
store with a loaded rifle (New Zealand). He threatened to kill
everyone. Everything was there but the willingness to actually shoot
someone. Do you really think culture has nothing to do with this?

Sure, they're not exposed to our gun culture.

Now explain that to Harry who says they watch all of the same movies
and play the same video games.



Our "gun culture" is built on a lot more than movies and video games,
which are pretty much the same in all modern western countries.

Explain that. What part of our gun culture here makes a 12 year old
more likely to actually shoot someone?
Since this kid had the rifle, availability had nothing to do with it.



The easy availability of firearms, the failure to detect most of those
with a tendency towards violence, the tremendous number of shootings in
this country and the acceptance of it by people like you...


The NZ kid had availability.



Gosh, Bilious, didn't you see the part about "...the failure to detect
most of those with a tendency towards violence, the tremendous number of
shootings in this country and the acceptance of it by people like
you..." as differences between 'Merica and other modern western nations
where firearms are available?

Guess not.


Did you miss the part where we do not accept the killings. We wonder why
so many. How many mass killings a year? How many killed a year in
Chicago? How many shootouts in Detroit, Chicago, DC kill or injure more
than most of the mass shootings? Is a culture, not availability of
firearms.



Bilious...we do accept the killings. We lead the modern western world in
gun killings. We're Number One! Be proud.

[email protected] October 15th 15 07:15 PM

#41
 
On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 12:21:56 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 10/15/15 11:46 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 10:51:50 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 10/15/15 10:29 AM,
wrote:
On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 19:34:29 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote:

In article 9lrt1btkj1dvb19k8no9jek6hv48d35ve1@
4ax.com,
says...


BTW are you following the story about the 12 year old who ran into a
store with a loaded rifle (New Zealand). He threatened to kill
everyone. Everything was there but the willingness to actually shoot
someone. Do you really think culture has nothing to do with this?

Sure, they're not exposed to our gun culture.

Now explain that to Harry who says they watch all of the same movies
and play the same video games.



Our "gun culture" is built on a lot more than movies and video games,
which are pretty much the same in all modern western countries.


Explain that. What part of our gun culture here makes a 12 year old
more likely to actually shoot someone?
Since this kid had the rifle, availability had nothing to do with it.



The easy availability of firearms, the failure to detect most of those
with a tendency towards violence, the tremendous number of shootings in
this country and the acceptance of it by people like you...


Since he had the gun, availability was not the issue and the rest of
your answer is gibberish unless you are simply saying we have a more
violent culture.
We kill more people with blunt objects that most of the western
democracies do with all weapons, including bare hands.
How is that a gun culture problem?
It is just a violent culture problem, driven by the thug culture which
has become mainstream, protected by the left.
(saggy pants and hoodies for example)
When people want to look like thugs and act like thugs, they kill like
thugs and get killed like thugs.

[email protected] October 15th 15 07:17 PM

#41
 
On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 12:56:00 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:


Bill...we do accept the killings. We lead the modern western world in
gun killings. We're Number One! Be proud.


We would lead the western world in killings even if you ignored all
the ones by gun. Try again.

Keyser Söze October 15th 15 07:21 PM

#41
 
On 10/15/15 2:15 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 12:21:56 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 10/15/15 11:46 AM,
wrote:
On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 10:51:50 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 10/15/15 10:29 AM,
wrote:
On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 19:34:29 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote:

In article 9lrt1btkj1dvb19k8no9jek6hv48d35ve1@
4ax.com,
says...


BTW are you following the story about the 12 year old who ran into a
store with a loaded rifle (New Zealand). He threatened to kill
everyone. Everything was there but the willingness to actually shoot
someone. Do you really think culture has nothing to do with this?

Sure, they're not exposed to our gun culture.

Now explain that to Harry who says they watch all of the same movies
and play the same video games.



Our "gun culture" is built on a lot more than movies and video games,
which are pretty much the same in all modern western countries.

Explain that. What part of our gun culture here makes a 12 year old
more likely to actually shoot someone?
Since this kid had the rifle, availability had nothing to do with it.



The easy availability of firearms, the failure to detect most of those
with a tendency towards violence, the tremendous number of shootings in
this country and the acceptance of it by people like you...


Since he had the gun, availability was not the issue and the rest of
your answer is gibberish unless you are simply saying we have a more
violent culture.
We kill more people with blunt objects that most of the western
democracies do with all weapons, including bare hands.
How is that a gun culture problem?
It is just a violent culture problem, driven by the thug culture which
has become mainstream, protected by the left.
(saggy pants and hoodies for example)
When people want to look like thugs and act like thugs, they kill like
thugs and get killed like thugs.



I suspect it is a bit more complicated than your attempts to blame what
you call the "thug" culture. And yes, we do have a more violent culture
and that violence towards people includes a hell of a lot more than what
you think is violence.

Hunger breeds violence, joblessness breeds violence, poverty breeds
violence, homelessness breeds violence, illness breeds violence. We have
a lot of all three, and we don't and never have paid the sort of
attention we should to these. Add in a society that doesn't really care
about actual violence and the availability of guns, and voila.

Keyser Söze October 15th 15 07:21 PM

#41
 
On 10/15/15 2:17 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 12:56:00 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:


Bill...we do accept the killings. We lead the modern western world in
gun killings. We're Number One! Be proud.


We would lead the western world in killings even if you ignored all
the ones by gun. Try again.


Be even prouder, then! We're #1!


[email protected] October 15th 15 07:37 PM

#41
 
On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 14:15:53 -0400, wrote:

It is just a violent culture problem, driven by the thug culture which
has become mainstream, protected by the left.
(saggy pants and hoodies for example)


===

You forget the violent, anti-social music produced by wealthy
democrats in California.

Califbill October 15th 15 08:06 PM

#41
 
wrote:
On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 12:21:56 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 10/15/15 11:46 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 10:51:50 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 10/15/15 10:29 AM,
wrote:
On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 19:34:29 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote:

In article 9lrt1btkj1dvb19k8no9jek6hv48d35ve1@
4ax.com,
says...


BTW are you following the story about the 12 year old who ran into a
store with a loaded rifle (New Zealand). He threatened to kill
everyone. Everything was there but the willingness to actually shoot
someone. Do you really think culture has nothing to do with this?

Sure, they're not exposed to our gun culture.

Now explain that to Harry who says they watch all of the same movies
and play the same video games.



Our "gun culture" is built on a lot more than movies and video games,
which are pretty much the same in all modern western countries.

Explain that. What part of our gun culture here makes a 12 year old
more likely to actually shoot someone?
Since this kid had the rifle, availability had nothing to do with it.



The easy availability of firearms, the failure to detect most of those
with a tendency towards violence, the tremendous number of shootings in
this country and the acceptance of it by people like you...


Since he had the gun, availability was not the issue and the rest of
your answer is gibberish unless you are simply saying we have a more
violent culture.
We kill more people with blunt objects that most of the western
democracies do with all weapons, including bare hands.
How is that a gun culture problem?
It is just a violent culture problem, driven by the thug culture which
has become mainstream, protected by the left.
(saggy pants and hoodies for example)
When people want to look like thugs and act like thugs, they kill like
thugs and get killed like thugs.


Well stated. Stopped for fuel in the Central Valley a couple weeks ago.
Sign on door of mini-mart. Hoodies will be removed before entering.


Mr. Luddite October 15th 15 10:32 PM

#41
 


I avoided this thread. I thought it was a bunch
of George H. W. Bush bashing.



Tim October 15th 15 10:41 PM

#41
 


I avoided this thread. I thought it was a bunch
of George H. W. Bush bashing.
........

I did some time ago because not for Bush, but like most threads, I knew it'd turn south quickly. No surprise that it did...,


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