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On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 14:00:38 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote: On 10/14/15 10:07 AM, wrote: On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 12:49:44 -0700, jps wrote: The only question is which of them will be your choice to off yourself when you're ready to go? 17,000 suicides by gun each year in the US and it's been proven that guns in the house increase the odds of a suicide. The odds of a suicide or simply the odds that they use the gun for the suicide? Lets go look at one of those examples of a gun free country, Japan. They have a higher suicide rate than the US. What's the mass murder rate in Japan? JPS was talking about suicide, the bulk of gun deaths here. Mass killing makes the news but it doesn't even bump the needle on the murder rate unless you count gang shootings where they kill several people at once. |
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On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 16:01:23 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote: On 10/14/15 3:43 PM, wrote: What's the mass murder rate in Japan? JPS was talking about suicide, the bulk of gun deaths here. Mass killing makes the news but it doesn't even bump the needle on the murder rate unless you count gang shootings where they kill several people at once. Gotta love how hard you fellas work to minimize the mass murder rate here. The mass murder rate compared to the murder rate is pretty much insignificant. If you compare your chances of dying in a mass murder to what it is for a 14-30 year old black man in Baltimore, you are getting down to the "killed by a terrorist" kind of numbers. BTW, the suicide rate for males in Japan is 26.9 per 100,000, compared to 19.4 per 100,000 here. Suicide is a holdover of Japanese society during its feudal times and in World War II. I suppose mass murder is a holdover of American society. But they seem very good at it without using guns. BTW are you following the story about the 12 year old who ran into a store with a loaded rifle (New Zealand). He threatened to kill everyone. Everything was there but the willingness to actually shoot someone. Do you really think culture has nothing to do with this? |
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In article 9lrt1btkj1dvb19k8no9jek6hv48d35ve1@
4ax.com, says... BTW are you following the story about the 12 year old who ran into a store with a loaded rifle (New Zealand). He threatened to kill everyone. Everything was there but the willingness to actually shoot someone. Do you really think culture has nothing to do with this? Sure, they're not exposed to our gun culture. |
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Boating All Out wrote:
In article 9lrt1btkj1dvb19k8no9jek6hv48d35ve1@ 4ax.com, says... BTW are you following the story about the 12 year old who ran into a store with a loaded rifle (New Zealand). He threatened to kill everyone. Everything was there but the willingness to actually shoot someone. Do you really think culture has nothing to do with this? Sure, they're not exposed to our gun culture. They are probably not exposed to the RAP culture. |
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On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 19:34:29 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote: In article 9lrt1btkj1dvb19k8no9jek6hv48d35ve1@ 4ax.com, says... BTW are you following the story about the 12 year old who ran into a store with a loaded rifle (New Zealand). He threatened to kill everyone. Everything was there but the willingness to actually shoot someone. Do you really think culture has nothing to do with this? Sure, they're not exposed to our gun culture. Now explain that to Harry who says they watch all of the same movies and play the same video games. |
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On 10/15/15 10:29 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 19:34:29 -0500, Boating All Out wrote: In article 9lrt1btkj1dvb19k8no9jek6hv48d35ve1@ 4ax.com, says... BTW are you following the story about the 12 year old who ran into a store with a loaded rifle (New Zealand). He threatened to kill everyone. Everything was there but the willingness to actually shoot someone. Do you really think culture has nothing to do with this? Sure, they're not exposed to our gun culture. Now explain that to Harry who says they watch all of the same movies and play the same video games. Our "gun culture" is built on a lot more than movies and video games, which are pretty much the same in all modern western countries. |
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