On Fri, 2 Oct 2015 11:40:20 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 10/2/15 11:14 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 02 Oct 2015 09:17:06 -0400, John H.
wrote:
On Fri, 02 Oct 2015 01:37:02 -0400, wrote:
On Thu, 1 Oct 2015 20:55:50 -0500, Justan Olphart
wrote:
Why in the world would he be doing self defense drills at 75 feet? It
doesn't make sense.
That is just target shooting at that point. I know hunters who train
at those kind of distances and even out to 50 or 75 yards. It will be
a large bore pistol tho.
The military typically shoots at 25 yards (I assume meters these days)
All of my .45 shooting (familiarization, not qualification) was done at about 7
yards. I can't imagine trying to hit a target at 25 yards with those old military
.45's. Well, maybe if the target was a tank.
I guess you never qualified with the .45. ;-)
My old chief could keep all 7 in the palm of your hand at 25 yards.
He also scoffed at the idea that a hardball .45 was not accurate. It
was the shooter, not the gun.
He had me shooting it fairly well after a while. I still never
embraced slow fire with a handgun although we did shoot at an oil drum
in the dump where we used to shoot and see how far away we could hit
it. (up to 100 yards or so)
That was really more plinking than target shooting tho.
I think of a handgun being an extension of my skeet shooting, more
than rifle shooting.
It came in handy when I hit a running rat in the house with my
frontier scout. Rolled him with one shot.
Hehehe.
When I got my first modern handgun, a Glock 9mm, as a matter of fact, my
instructor trained me at "defensive distances," which tapped out at
seven yards. Too easy and to me boring. If you can't shoot a really
really tight group at seven yards, you have no business even owning a
handgun. I like shooting handguns at 25 yards. I've found that with
regular practice, I can shoot .357 MAG hardball into a really tight
group - all six rounds - at that distance using the standard "iron
sights" on my S&W 686. I'm taking lessons now from a really "hotshot"
cowboy action shooter, not for cowboy action shooting, but to perfect -
as much as I can - accurate one-handed revolver shooting from various
stances. It's an interesting challenge.
I agree slow fire at 7 yards is not really challenging but rapid fire
strings at multiple targets is a little tougher. I used to do 5 shots
at 5 targets and time the string.
With my Woodsman I was getting down around 3 seconds with no misses.
If you don't have a fancy timer, you can just use a tape recorder and
time the shots later. Crude but reasonably effective.
(Kids, there used to be these things called tape recorders) ;-)
Easiest handgun shooting? My Ruger Mark III .22LR with the red dot
sight. I sent the pistol out to Volquartsen for installation of all its
kits and wowser...it's just terrifically accurate.
I like my Woodsman but it is a bone stock target model. (still not too
shabby)
When I start blaming my misses on the gun, I might think of upgrading
it. My old chief said that if I was really saying his hardball .45s
would not shoot as well as me, we would go over to Yorktown and clamp
them in a rest but it was going to cost me when I lost the bet.
Then I watched him take one of those nasty old "loose" guns and put
them all in the black on a military 25 yd target.
I learned most I know about pistol shooting from him, tuned up by an
FBI instructor in Maryland
