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Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/2/2015 5:57 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 2 Oct 2015 17:29:27 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

I am not ignoring your comments about the lack of penalties for illegal
weapons possession. I am suggesting that we try to prevent it in the
first place. The concept of the license requirement to buy ammo is to
get around the NRA supported 2nd Amendment "right" claims.

===

If you made it difficult or expensive to purchase ammo, there would
immediately be a large number of "make your own ammo" kits on the
market. It's not difficult as evidenced by the large number of
serious target shooters that are already reloading their own. You
keep proposing solutions that penalize legitimate gun owners and
target shooters. Why not think of ways to go after the root causes?
We all know what they are. It just takes some political backbone to
enforce the laws we already have. New York City made some major
progress by enforcing strict "stop and frisk" policies for suspicious
persons. You can guess how that ended up even though it was
successful.

I don't understand why so many people feel that the requirement of a
license/permit is "penalizing" anyone. Maybe I am going by my own
experience here in Massachusetts. In order to legally own a firearm
a MA resident must have one of several types of gun permits with a
Class "A" concealed carry permit being the most sought after. Others
are for handguns for home defense only, and long gun permit
(rifle/shotgun) only. There's even a permit available to legally carry
mace.

The reason for this is that there are some pretty severe penalties,
including jail time, for the possession of a firearm *without* the
required permit. Of course, the permit issuance process includes
a criminal background check.

The issued permit must be shown to the cashier when purchasing ammo.

None of this is a big deal nor is it difficult or expensive.

Because it does not do anything about the root cause.

Mr. Luddite

On 10/2/2015 7:02 PM, Califbill wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/2/2015 5:57 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 2 Oct 2015 17:29:27 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

I am not ignoring your comments about the lack of penalties for illegal
weapons possession. I am suggesting that we try to prevent it in the
first place. The concept of the license requirement to buy ammo is to
get around the NRA supported 2nd Amendment "right" claims.

===

If you made it difficult or expensive to purchase ammo, there would
immediately be a large number of "make your own ammo" kits on the
market. It's not difficult as evidenced by the large number of
serious target shooters that are already reloading their own. You
keep proposing solutions that penalize legitimate gun owners and
target shooters. Why not think of ways to go after the root causes?
We all know what they are. It just takes some political backbone to
enforce the laws we already have. New York City made some major
progress by enforcing strict "stop and frisk" policies for suspicious
persons. You can guess how that ended up even though it was
successful.

I don't understand why so many people feel that the requirement of a
license/permit is "penalizing" anyone. Maybe I am going by my own
experience here in Massachusetts. In order to legally own a firearm
a MA resident must have one of several types of gun permits with a
Class "A" concealed carry permit being the most sought after. Others
are for handguns for home defense only, and long gun permit
(rifle/shotgun) only. There's even a permit available to legally carry
mace.

The reason for this is that there are some pretty severe penalties,
including jail time, for the possession of a firearm *without* the
required permit. Of course, the permit issuance process includes
a criminal background check.

The issued permit must be shown to the cashier when purchasing ammo.

None of this is a big deal nor is it difficult or expensive.

Because it does not do anything about the root cause.

Ok. So we may as well adopt BOA's and Jeb Bush's philosophy about
mass shootings of innocent people (including little kids).

"**** happens".

Right?

John H.[_5_]

On Fri, 2 Oct 2015 19:17:52 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 10/2/2015 7:02 PM, Califbill wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/2/2015 5:57 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 2 Oct 2015 17:29:27 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

I am not ignoring your comments about the lack of penalties for illegal
weapons possession. I am suggesting that we try to prevent it in the
first place. The concept of the license requirement to buy ammo is to
get around the NRA supported 2nd Amendment "right" claims.

===

If you made it difficult or expensive to purchase ammo, there would
immediately be a large number of "make your own ammo" kits on the
market. It's not difficult as evidenced by the large number of
serious target shooters that are already reloading their own. You
keep proposing solutions that penalize legitimate gun owners and
target shooters. Why not think of ways to go after the root causes?
We all know what they are. It just takes some political backbone to
enforce the laws we already have. New York City made some major
progress by enforcing strict "stop and frisk" policies for suspicious
persons. You can guess how that ended up even though it was
successful.

I don't understand why so many people feel that the requirement of a
license/permit is "penalizing" anyone. Maybe I am going by my own
experience here in Massachusetts. In order to legally own a firearm
a MA resident must have one of several types of gun permits with a
Class "A" concealed carry permit being the most sought after. Others
are for handguns for home defense only, and long gun permit
(rifle/shotgun) only. There's even a permit available to legally carry
mace.

The reason for this is that there are some pretty severe penalties,
including jail time, for the possession of a firearm *without* the
required permit. Of course, the permit issuance process includes
a criminal background check.

The issued permit must be shown to the cashier when purchasing ammo.

None of this is a big deal nor is it difficult or expensive.

Because it does not do anything about the root cause.

Ok. So we may as well adopt BOA's and Jeb Bush's philosophy about
mass shootings of innocent people (including little kids).

"**** happens".

Right?

No, not right. Go after the root cause of the great majority of the shootings. If
you're for infringing on rights, let cops pat down suspected gun carriers, especially
in high crime areas.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

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