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Funny you should ask, I blew the receiver out on my Mini-14 about 10
years ago, but I was using my own RCB reloads, so I figure I must of
packed a hot load, Carry a Mossberg 500a SS with the line throwing kit
aboard tho. UD

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....Carry a Mossberg 500a SS with the line throwing kit
aboard tho.

All I have is an old Marlin Mod 60 .22LR and a newer Remington 870 12GA, which
I bust clays with and also go hunting with.

I took my daughters with me one time down to the local wildlife managment
area's outdoor range. We took turn plinking with the Marlin .22 - believe it
or not, one of my girls actually out-shot me at 50 yards! I was safe and fun
for us. My girls are now young ladies, as they are 17 yrs old and thank God,
they know right from wrong. They don't care for the 870 12GA and skeet
shooting though. The recoil was a bit much for them.

Anyway, I wonder how many non-hunting people carry a firearm onboard a boat?

Butch Ammon

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Last summer, a vendor at a gun show said he loved the ban. The value of his
pre-ban magazines quadrupled. Now he's able to buy more guns and have an
arsenal. :-)



That guy was pumping you. Hi Cap mags are all over for virtually the price of
production. I can get all the 23-30rd M14 mags I want for $15.
How do you regulate something that NEVER had a S/N on it? You can fab up a
pretty good magazine in any small steel stamping shop and let someone prove it
isn't 10 years old a week later.

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I've got a pre-ban AR-15 that's worth a lot now, just because of the "ban".
I also bought a bunch of 30 round clips, and a couple of 150 round
magazines, just because they were going to be banned. Yea, the anti-gun nuts
really scored on that one!

"Gfretwell" wrote in message
...
Bayonet lug. Now that's silly. I can buy a pitchfork, sharpen it up real
nice and do more damage.


the whole "assault weapons ban" was dumb. It was just the perception of
doing
something while calling attention to a class of weapons that were no
particular
problem and making them an investment opportunity. After thae ban was
announced
2 MILLION were sold, most from China, to people who don't have a clue why
they
bought them or what they are going to do with them, since the market is
saturated.
If the gun haters had kept their mouth shut there would only have been a
nich
market in these things.

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Keith wrote:

I've got a pre-ban AR-15 that's worth a lot now, just because of the "ban".
I also bought a bunch of 30 round clips, and a couple of 150 round
magazines, just because they were going to be banned. Yea, the anti-gun nuts
really scored on that one!

Gee...are you expecting John Asscroft to come calling?



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Janet Reno...

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...


Keith wrote:

I've got a pre-ban AR-15 that's worth a lot now, just because of the
"ban".
I also bought a bunch of 30 round clips, and a couple of 150 round
magazines, just because they were going to be banned. Yea, the anti-gun
nuts
really scored on that one!

Gee...are you expecting John Asscroft to come calling?



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"Gfretwell" wrote in message
...
Last summer, a vendor at a gun show said he loved the ban. The value of
his
pre-ban magazines quadrupled. Now he's able to buy more guns and have an
arsenal. :-)



That guy was pumping you. Hi Cap mags are all over for virtually the price
of
production. I can get all the 23-30rd M14 mags I want for $15.
How do you regulate something that NEVER had a S/N on it? You can fab up a
pretty good magazine in any small steel stamping shop and let someone
prove it
isn't 10 years old a week later.

Maybe, but I'm not a buyer for those anyway. I carry handguns with either 6
or 7 rounds. If a single attacker's not down in 3 shots, I have a real
problem, and 10 more ain't gonna do the trick.

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"UglyDan®©T" wrote in message
...
Funny you should ask, I blew the receiver out on my Mini-14 about 10
years ago, but I was using my own RCB reloads, so I figure I must of
packed a hot load, Carry a Mossberg 500a SS with the line throwing kit
aboard tho. UD


Line throwing kit? Hmmm. You know the idiots who stand on the dock,
obstructing the entire area, while they take pictures, but do nothing to
help boaters trying to dock in a 35 mph wind? Can a line throwing thing be
used to PUT a line onto those people at, say, 20 feet? Will it stick to them
or go through them in a way that I could pull against the weight of the
person?

:-)

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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...


Keith wrote:

I've got a pre-ban AR-15 that's worth a lot now, just because of the
"ban".
I also bought a bunch of 30 round clips, and a couple of 150 round
magazines, just because they were going to be banned. Yea, the anti-gun
nuts
really scored on that one!

Gee...are you expecting John Asscroft to come calling?

Hey..the presence of the accessories makes the gun more interesting to a
buyer, if Keith should ever decide to sell. I mean...who'd wanna buy a GTO
with an automatic tranny?

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Hi Doug,

I find the Stainless "Ranch" Mini-14 is a well made rifle. It is a
little short, so it handles well. The .223 round packs plenty of punch.
2 or 3 Horniday hollow points will drop even a brown bear or big buck.
(The NATO FMJ will drill a perfect hole through 1/4 inch steel at 400 feet)

The stainless model doesn't rust, and disassembles easily and quickly to
a "machined parts" stage. Which makes it legal to go into a "no guns"
area such as a state park, though NOT a military or indian reservation.

In the 4 or 5 hundred shots I have fired, it has only misfired twice
(bad primers, and never had a jam with a factory magazine. (I buy a lot
of surplus ammo from: www.cheaperthandirt.com .) I also obtain some
from local gun shows. (Steel pin AP, Tracer ect. It is not illegal to
possess this ammo in FLorida, but is NOT legal to chamber it.) The after
market magazines are another story. I have had several mis-feeds and
though they clear with a pull of the bolt, and a quick flip to dump, it
still took some 5 seconds or so.

The thing I really like about the Mini is my wife can fire for half a
day at the range and it doesn't hurt her shoulder like a heavier
caliber* does.

(*My other "toy" is a Browning .300 Mag "white gold medallion". (Makes a
fine "deck gun" for Caribbean travel! grin. Custom loads available!
These will take the motor(s) out of a "go fast" at 1500 yards!) See link
below:

http://www.browning.com/products/cat...35&type_id=021


as a comparison, I bought Amy (wife) a Taurus Millennium 9mm, which
carries a 10 round magazine,
She can hit a target at 15 feet with it, but beyond, she simply scares
the paper and wastes ammo. After 4 or 5 magazines she complains it hurts
her hand.

None the less, I would not travel unarmed. There are too many "scary
things" out there.

Regards,

Capt. Frank

Doug Kanter wrote:

In rec.guns every now and then, someone says "....but whatever you do, don't
buy a mini-14". Meanwhile, there are millions of them out there owned by
people who seem to like them. Any trouble with yours?

"Capt. Frank Hopkins" wrote in message
hlink.net...

Hi Butch,

When out and about, I carry a Ruger Mini-14 stainless ranch rifle (.223
semi-auto) 2 40 round magazines and my P-90 .45 cal.

I had an alarm installed which dials my cell & home phone. It will
inform me of high water, loss of electrical power, fire, or break in. In
case of break in, the alarm box sounds the horns and a very piercing
siren in the cabin. All in all, it makes quite a ruckus. It cost about
$600 bucks but is, I think worth it.

Capt. Frank


Butch Ammon wrote:


Don't worry about the dockmaster, Worry aout the Captain's handgun!

Capt. Frank



Good one....

I know that the USCG carries M-16's below deck, and they also carry

either the

new Beretta M92 9mm, or they still carry the old standard Springfield

1911 .45

(which I remember qualifying on during bootcamp back then).

Butch Ammon

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Neither of them are banned. High capacity magazines are banned from
further manufacture for the US markets. They are very available as used
parts though.

The Mini-14 is in current production at Ruger.

The Ak-47 is being built all over the third world. I don't really like
the AK, as it is cheaply built and wears out after 2 or 3 thousand rounds.

Regards,

Capt. Frank

Butch Ammon wrote:

Isn't the "mini-14" banned? Or is it the AR-15? I know that one of them is
banned on the Brady Bill or whatever law the Clinton's enabled or the senator
from CA named Diane Feinstein or whomever.

Butch Ammon


In rec.guns every now and then, someone says "....but whatever you do, don't
buy a mini-14". Meanwhile, there are millions of them out there owned by
people who seem to like them. Any trouble with yours?

"Capt. Frank Hopkins" wrote in message
rthlink.net...

Hi Butch,

When out and about, I carry a Ruger Mini-14 stainless ranch rifle (.223
semi-auto) 2 40 round magazines and my P-90 .45 cal.

I had an alarm installed which dials my cell & home phone. It will
inform me of high water, loss of electrical power, fire, or break in. In
case of break in, the alarm box sounds the horns and a very piercing
siren in the cabin. All in all, it makes quite a ruckus. It cost about
$600 bucks but is, I think worth it.

Capt. Frank

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Thanks Greg, I wasn't aware of the "2" evils thing.

Capt. Frank

Gfretwell wrote:

Isn't the "mini-14" banned? Or is it the AR-15?


Some models of the AR15 are banned. (new manufacture) as are some modifications
to a stock Mini14. It all depends on the features. A banned gun has TWO of the
laundry list of evil things. Bayonet lug, folding stock, flash hider,
detachable mag, pistol grip etc.
If you have a pre-ban gun you can still have and sell it everywhere except
D.C., Ca, Nj and perhaps some other states.

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Hi all,

The "gun hater club" doesn't have a firm grip on reality. I suppose
their brain's are a quart short of a gallon.

"For the first time in the history of civilization, a nation has become
free from the scourge firearms"

Adolph Hitler 1936

Regards,

Capt. Frank

Gfretwell wrote:

Bayonet lug. Now that's silly. I can buy a pitchfork, sharpen it up real
nice and do more damage.



the whole "assault weapons ban" was dumb. It was just the perception of doing
something while calling attention to a class of weapons that were no particular
problem and making them an investment opportunity. After thae ban was announced
2 MILLION were sold, most from China, to people who don't have a clue why they
bought them or what they are going to do with them, since the market is
saturated.
If the gun haters had kept their mouth shut there would only have been a nich
market in these things.

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Again, I exclaim the virtues of buying new ammo! It is way too easy to
screw up with a re-load.

How does your 500 hold up un salt air? I was looking at one myself.

Regards,

Capt Frank

UglyDan®©™ wrote:

Funny you should ask, I blew the receiver out on my Mini-14 about 10
years ago, but I was using my own RCB reloads, so I figure I must of
packed a hot load, Carry a Mossberg 500a SS with the line throwing kit
aboard tho. UD

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"Capt. Frank Hopkins" wrote in message
k.net...


None the less, I would not travel unarmed. There are too many "scary
things" out there.


Yeah...I've run into some very odd people while fishing alone in remote
places. Much happier now with a friend on my belt. Fishing is church for me.
I have no patience for nonsense when I'm in church. Zip. Nada.

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I think most serious boaters carry at least a "shark" gun. I should not
be surprised if they have several weapons when on the open sea. One
would be a fool not to.

My wife can out shoot me with the Mini-14 too. It has just a little more
recoil then a .22lr. The Browning .300 Mag scares the crap out of her.
The first (and only) time she lit it off, she fell on her fundament, and
her shoulder was sore for several days.


Regards,

Capt. Frank

Butch Ammon wrote:

....Carry a Mossberg 500a SS with the line throwing kit
aboard tho.


All I have is an old Marlin Mod 60 .22LR and a newer Remington 870 12GA, which
I bust clays with and also go hunting with.

I took my daughters with me one time down to the local wildlife managment
area's outdoor range. We took turn plinking with the Marlin .22 - believe it
or not, one of my girls actually out-shot me at 50 yards! I was safe and fun
for us. My girls are now young ladies, as they are 17 yrs old and thank God,
they know right from wrong. They don't care for the 870 12GA and skeet
shooting though. The recoil was a bit much for them.

Anyway, I wonder how many non-hunting people carry a firearm onboard a boat?

Butch Ammon

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Naa, Janet's over at the Branch Dividian's annual barbecue. This year
they are featuring the new Jeffrey Dalmer brand sauce.

G

C.F.

Keith wrote:

Janet Reno...

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...


Keith wrote:


I've got a pre-ban AR-15 that's worth a lot now, just because of the

"ban".

I also bought a bunch of 30 round clips, and a couple of 150 round
magazines, just because they were going to be banned. Yea, the anti-gun

nuts

really scored on that one!

Gee...are you expecting John Asscroft to come calling?



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Doug my Friend,

Pirates don't come at you one at a time. But, it is well you are able to
hit the target "center mass".

IMHO it is better to kill their engines while well away from you. In
most cases 2 or 3 rounds in the water near their bow will turn them
quickly. Pirates are thieves, and not too brave. But there are
exceptions, especially in areas of The Gulf of Mexico or Dry Tortugas. I
think its a Macho thing. Or, Perhaps they are just crazy.

I don't know for sure. I do know a lot of private vessels (and crews)
vanish out there, and the boats turn up later in the possession of drug
smugglers.

Regards,

Capt. Frank



Doug Kanter wrote:

"Gfretwell" wrote in message
...

Last summer, a vendor at a gun show said he loved the ban. The value of

his

pre-ban magazines quadrupled. Now he's able to buy more guns and have an
arsenal. :-)



That guy was pumping you. Hi Cap mags are all over for virtually the price

of

production. I can get all the 23-30rd M14 mags I want for $15.
How do you regulate something that NEVER had a S/N on it? You can fab up a
pretty good magazine in any small steel stamping shop and let someone

prove it

isn't 10 years old a week later.


Maybe, but I'm not a buyer for those anyway. I carry handguns with either 6
or 7 rounds. If a single attacker's not down in 3 shots, I have a real
problem, and 10 more ain't gonna do the trick.

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"Capt. Frank Hopkins" wrote in message
k.net...
Doug my Friend,

Pirates don't come at you one at a time. But, it is well you are able to
hit the target "center mass".


Well...I'm talking about creeks and small rivers in the Adirondacks. Most
pirates are gonna be on foot, canoe, or in a boat as small as mine. And,
next year, the old revolver gets traded in for a Ruger Redhawk in .458
Casull. Just in case. :-)

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My shooting experience comes from shooting vermin attacking my show ducks at
night in the pen.
In that scenario you get one shot. Ducks quack, I perch, wife flips on 750
watt stage light, and the critter will freeze for about ONE second with the
"deer in the headlights" thing going on. You gotta bead it and pull pretty
fast. Most I've used is 3 shots because I was too slow and had to "spray
and pray" at a runner. And no, I never shot a duck by mistake. (I never
shot a duck on purpose either.)

As a funny story, I got my first practices as a kid shooting bees with a
friends pellet gun. I got pretty good at it, even moving ones. One day a
Canadian goose landed WELL within range. I had no doubt I could make a clean
head shot and have it stuffed and in the oven before my mother could say
"whats cookin'? LOL. So I pumped the thing up to 13 out of 10 pumps (heh)
and lined up on this big fat goose. I was so damn sure of myself, I was
already planning out how fast we could feather and eviscerate it. Alas, I
forgot the safety on and my sudden (surprised) movement to release the
safety spooked my meal and it flew off. What's funnier is that Charlie's
father is an ex-marine and drilled us on safety. He was a chef too and was
already rattling off recipies for goose when we all found out Wayne left the
safety on. He felt pretty good that he had us trained to always reset the
safety after a shot, but commented that I seemed to need more work on the
part about taking the safety OFF before aiming. Fact is, I'm still sloppy
at releasing the safety to this day. Before my wife flips on the 750 watt
light, I have HER trained to whisper, "safety OFF". LOL.

I don't know how I'd be with a handgun vs an attacker, I'm more of a sniper
type than a pistol shooter. hehe It took me a LOT of practice to get good
with a rifle. I'm too lazy to start all over with a handgun. We own a 22
handgun with a fairly long barrel, and I think I suck with it, at least
comparing it to my rifle scores. I ususally leave it in the box and play
with the rifle.

-W




"Doug Kanter" wrote in message news:DKamb.2922

Maybe, but I'm not a buyer for those anyway. I carry handguns with either
6
or 7 rounds. If a single attacker's not down in 3 shots, I have a real
problem, and 10 more ain't gonna do the trick.

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Serious question here Frank?

When a vessel is far away from you, how can you identify it as "pirates"? I
mean, I don't have to worry about lake pirates where I am, but my instinct
is that most approaching vessels want to borrow a beer, a lighter, a tool,
or at most a spotter.

Let's say I'm in strange water and armed.
OK, with my rifle (assuming I had a bigger clip - LOL) I could prolly kill
the engines and most of the crew of an approaching vessel, or at least
enough to make it turn around in a big hurry. But how the hell would I be
able to guage INTENT untill they got too *close* to be able to outgun a
bunch of people? I mean shooting a boat full of doods that wanna borrow a
7/16 socket is NOT an option anyway I slice it - LOL.

-W

"Capt. Frank Hopkins" wrote in message
k.net...

IMHO it is better to kill their engines while well away from you. In
most cases 2 or 3 rounds in the water near their bow will turn them
quickly. Pirates are thieves, and not too brave. But there are
exceptions, especially in areas of The Gulf of Mexico or Dry Tortugas. I
think its a Macho thing. Or, Perhaps they are just crazy.

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I'm still waiting for this......... I really wanna know how to identify and
shoot pie-rats at any kind of "safe range" for me. I can't see how it's
possible.

-W

"Clams Canino" wrote in message
news:lFfmb.20419$HS4.70919@attbi_s01...
Serious question here Frank?

When a vessel is far away from you, how can you identify it as "pirates"?
I
mean, I don't have to worry about lake pirates where I am, but my instinct
is that most approaching vessels want to borrow a beer, a lighter, a tool,
or at most a spotter.

Let's say I'm in strange water and armed.
OK, with my rifle (assuming I had a bigger clip - LOL) I could prolly kill
the engines and most of the crew of an approaching vessel, or at least
enough to make it turn around in a big hurry. But how the hell would I be
able to guage INTENT untill they got too *close* to be able to outgun a
bunch of people? I mean shooting a boat full of doods that wanna borrow a
7/16 socket is NOT an option anyway I slice it - LOL.

-W

"Capt. Frank Hopkins" wrote in message
k.net...

IMHO it is better to kill their engines while well away from you. In
most cases 2 or 3 rounds in the water near their bow will turn them
quickly. Pirates are thieves, and not too brave. But there are
exceptions, especially in areas of The Gulf of Mexico or Dry Tortugas. I
think its a Macho thing. Or, Perhaps they are just crazy.

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Well, true enough, pirates don't fly the jolly roger anymore.

In the Caribbean and along the mosquito coast they are fairly easy to
id. They generally are coming at you quite fast, and if you give them
the once over with a good pair of binox you can see the murder in their
eye. At this point, turn bow away and pour the coals to your motor.


If they chase you, its a good bet they are pirates. Just don't take
chances with these boyos. They will kill you and your whole family for
the contents of your fridge or your new fishing reel.

We are talking about a whole different type of animal here. Third
world... They have no "morals" and no conscience. (And no internet rec.
boats discussion group either.) They kill because its a convenient means
to get supplies or money.

If they get too close, put a round across their bow. If they keep
coming, start aiming for between the eyes.

On the other hand, If its someone in distress, you will know it.
A couple of approach rules:

Always approach the "distress" vessel from the stern. Stand well off!
You can see what's happening in their deck and cabin. You can also see
if their engine is running.

Never-Never-NEVER come alongside. Hold negotiations from your bow to
their stern.

If their boat is "on fire" DON'T COME ALONGSIDE! Scream for the COAST
GUARD on your marine radio. Pull the string on the EPRIB. That will
provoke a very fast response.


Order them into life preservers for a swim to your boat. Cover them with
the weapon of choice until you have confirmed they are unarmed. Their
wet clothes will stick to them and outline a gun or knife. If they
outnumber your crew, keep them covered until the Coast Guard arrives.


Regards,

Capt. Frank

Clams Canino wrote:
Serious question here Frank?

When a vessel is far away from you, how can you identify it as "pirates"? I
mean, I don't have to worry about lake pirates where I am, but my instinct
is that most approaching vessels want to borrow a beer, a lighter, a tool,
or at most a spotter.

Let's say I'm in strange water and armed.
OK, with my rifle (assuming I had a bigger clip - LOL) I could prolly kill
the engines and most of the crew of an approaching vessel, or at least
enough to make it turn around in a big hurry. But how the hell would I be
able to guage INTENT untill they got too *close* to be able to outgun a
bunch of people? I mean shooting a boat full of doods that wanna borrow a
7/16 socket is NOT an option anyway I slice it - LOL.

-W

"Capt. Frank Hopkins" wrote in message
k.net...

IMHO it is better to kill their engines while well away from you. In
most cases 2 or 3 rounds in the water near their bow will turn them
quickly. Pirates are thieves, and not too brave. But there are
exceptions, especially in areas of The Gulf of Mexico or Dry Tortugas. I
think its a Macho thing. Or, Perhaps they are just crazy.

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Sorry the reply took so long. I was busy making a living.

Capt. Frank

Clams Canino wrote:

I'm still waiting for this......... I really wanna know how to identify and
shoot pie-rats at any kind of "safe range" for me. I can't see how it's
possible.

-W

"Clams Canino" wrote in message
news:lFfmb.20419$HS4.70919@attbi_s01...

Serious question here Frank?

When a vessel is far away from you, how can you identify it as "pirates"?

I

mean, I don't have to worry about lake pirates where I am, but my instinct
is that most approaching vessels want to borrow a beer, a lighter, a tool,
or at most a spotter.

Let's say I'm in strange water and armed.
OK, with my rifle (assuming I had a bigger clip - LOL) I could prolly kill
the engines and most of the crew of an approaching vessel, or at least
enough to make it turn around in a big hurry. But how the hell would I be
able to guage INTENT untill they got too *close* to be able to outgun a
bunch of people? I mean shooting a boat full of doods that wanna borrow a
7/16 socket is NOT an option anyway I slice it - LOL.

-W

"Capt. Frank Hopkins" wrote in message
ink.net...

IMHO it is better to kill their engines while well away from you. In
most cases 2 or 3 rounds in the water near their bow will turn them
quickly. Pirates are thieves, and not too brave. But there are
exceptions, especially in areas of The Gulf of Mexico or Dry Tortugas. I
think its a Macho thing. Or, Perhaps they are just crazy.

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Capt. Frank Hopkins wrote:

We are talking about a whole different type of animal here. Third
world... They have no "morals" and no conscience.

Sort of like the Bush Administration, eh?

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Clams Canino wrote:

I'm still waiting for this......... I really wanna know how to identify and
shoot pie-rats at any kind of "safe range" for me. I can't see how it's
possible.

-W

"Clams Canino" wrote in message
news:lFfmb.20419$HS4.70919@attbi_s01...
Serious question here Frank?

When a vessel is far away from you, how can you identify it as "pirates"?
I
mean, I don't have to worry about lake pirates where I am, but my instinct
is that most approaching vessels want to borrow a beer, a lighter, a tool,
or at most a spotter.

Let's say I'm in strange water and armed.
OK, with my rifle (assuming I had a bigger clip - LOL) I could prolly kill
the engines and most of the crew of an approaching vessel, or at least
enough to make it turn around in a big hurry. But how the hell would I be
able to guage INTENT untill they got too *close* to be able to outgun a
bunch of people? I mean shooting a boat full of doods that wanna borrow a
7/16 socket is NOT an option anyway I slice it - LOL.

-W

"Capt. Frank Hopkins" wrote in message
k.net...

IMHO it is better to kill their engines while well away from you. In
most cases 2 or 3 rounds in the water near their bow will turn them
quickly. Pirates are thieves, and not too brave. But there are
exceptions, especially in areas of The Gulf of Mexico or Dry Tortugas. I
think its a Macho thing. Or, Perhaps they are just crazy.




It usually isn't, at least not in this hemisphere. What we have here is
gun talk bravado, nothing more.


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How about a nice .50 caliber to take out the engines? Good range and great
stopping power. Be sure to wear a shoulder pad.

"Capt. Frank Hopkins" wrote in message
k.net...
Doug my Friend,

Pirates don't come at you one at a time. But, it is well you are able to
hit the target "center mass".

IMHO it is better to kill their engines while well away from you. In
most cases 2 or 3 rounds in the water near their bow will turn them
quickly. Pirates are thieves, and not too brave. But there are
exceptions, especially in areas of The Gulf of Mexico or Dry Tortugas. I
think its a Macho thing. Or, Perhaps they are just crazy.

I don't know for sure. I do know a lot of private vessels (and crews)
vanish out there, and the boats turn up later in the possession of drug
smugglers.

Regards,

Capt. Frank



Doug Kanter wrote:

"Gfretwell" wrote in message
...

Last summer, a vendor at a gun show said he loved the ban. The value of

his

pre-ban magazines quadrupled. Now he's able to buy more guns and have
an
arsenal. :-)



That guy was pumping you. Hi Cap mags are all over for virtually the
price

of

production. I can get all the 23-30rd M14 mags I want for $15.
How do you regulate something that NEVER had a S/N on it? You can fab up
a
pretty good magazine in any small steel stamping shop and let someone

prove it

isn't 10 years old a week later.


Maybe, but I'm not a buyer for those anyway. I carry handguns with
either 6
or 7 rounds. If a single attacker's not down in 3 shots, I have a real
problem, and 10 more ain't gonna do the trick.

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Keith wrote:
How about a nice .50 caliber to take out the engines? Good range and great
stopping power. Be sure to wear a shoulder pad.

"Capt. Frank Hopkins" wrote in message
k.net...
Doug my Friend,

Pirates don't come at you one at a time. But, it is well you are able to
hit the target "center mass".

IMHO it is better to kill their engines while well away from you. In
most cases 2 or 3 rounds in the water near their bow will turn them
quickly. Pirates are thieves, and not too brave. But there are
exceptions, especially in areas of The Gulf of Mexico or Dry Tortugas. I
think its a Macho thing. Or, Perhaps they are just crazy.

I don't know for sure. I do know a lot of private vessels (and crews)
vanish out there, and the boats turn up later in the possession of drug
smugglers.

Regards,

Capt. Frank



Doug Kanter wrote:

"Gfretwell" wrote in message
...

Last summer, a vendor at a gun show said he loved the ban. The value of

his

pre-ban magazines quadrupled. Now he's able to buy more guns and have
an
arsenal. :-)



That guy was pumping you. Hi Cap mags are all over for virtually the
price

of

production. I can get all the 23-30rd M14 mags I want for $15.
How do you regulate something that NEVER had a S/N on it? You can fab up
a
pretty good magazine in any small steel stamping shop and let someone

prove it

isn't 10 years old a week later.


Maybe, but I'm not a buyer for those anyway. I carry handguns with
either 6
or 7 rounds. If a single attacker's not down in 3 shots, I have a real
problem, and 10 more ain't gonna do the trick.






Why stop there? Why not a 105 mm deck gun?

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..50 cal?!? That could work! Or perhaps a CWIS ;)

Capt. Frank

Keith wrote:

How about a nice .50 caliber to take out the engines? Good range and great
stopping power. Be sure to wear a shoulder pad.

"Capt. Frank Hopkins" wrote in message
k.net...

Doug my Friend,

Pirates don't come at you one at a time. But, it is well you are able to
hit the target "center mass".

IMHO it is better to kill their engines while well away from you. In
most cases 2 or 3 rounds in the water near their bow will turn them
quickly. Pirates are thieves, and not too brave. But there are
exceptions, especially in areas of The Gulf of Mexico or Dry Tortugas. I
think its a Macho thing. Or, Perhaps they are just crazy.

I don't know for sure. I do know a lot of private vessels (and crews)
vanish out there, and the boats turn up later in the possession of drug
smugglers.

Regards,

Capt. Frank



Doug Kanter wrote:


"Gfretwell" wrote in message
...


Last summer, a vendor at a gun show said he loved the ban. The value of

his


pre-ban magazines quadrupled. Now he's able to buy more guns and have

an

arsenal. :-)



That guy was pumping you. Hi Cap mags are all over for virtually the

price

of


production. I can get all the 23-30rd M14 mags I want for $15.
How do you regulate something that NEVER had a S/N on it? You can fab up

a

pretty good magazine in any small steel stamping shop and let someone

prove it


isn't 10 years old a week later.


Maybe, but I'm not a buyer for those anyway. I carry handguns with

either 6

or 7 rounds. If a single attacker's not down in 3 shots, I have a real
problem, and 10 more ain't gonna do the trick.

Crimes in Marinas and anchorages
 

Why stop there? Why not a 105 mm deck gun?

You can buy a nice M2 (for about the price of a 25' center console, plus a $200
tax stamp) but you can't own anything with a bore greater than .5" unless it is
a shotgun or muzzle loader (Gun Control Act of 1968).
You could get a few muzzle loading cannon though ;-)
"Arrr, come along side and lay a broadside among her timbers matey!"

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Or perhaps torpedo tubes, that would work.
"Gfretwell" wrote in message
...
Why stop there? Why not a 105 mm deck gun?

You can buy a nice M2 (for about the price of a 25' center console, plus a
$200
tax stamp) but you can't own anything with a bore greater than .5" unless
it is
a shotgun or muzzle loader (Gun Control Act of 1968).
You could get a few muzzle loading cannon though ;-)
"Arrr, come along side and lay a broadside among her timbers matey!"

Crimes in Marinas and anchorages
 

Gfretwell wrote:
Why stop there? Why not a 105 mm deck gun?

You can buy a nice M2 (for about the price of a 25' center console, plus a $200
tax stamp) but you can't own anything with a bore greater than .5" unless it is
a shotgun or muzzle loader (Gun Control Act of 1968).
You could get a few muzzle loading cannon though ;-)
"Arrr, come along side and lay a broadside among her timbers matey!"


Cannons! That's the ticket!

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Not only do you have pirates to worry about in the keys you also
have the drug runners.

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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...


It usually isn't, at least not in this hemisphere. What we have here is
gun talk bravado, nothing more.


That's silly, Harry. I carry a handgun because I fish alone in some
extremely remote places and believe me when I tell you that I've run into
some very spooky people. We're talking Deliverance material, but in the
Adirondacks. A former boss grew up there. I told him once that I'd could see
myself living in the middle of 4000 acres of forest preserve. His comment:
"You'd be a catch for the local women. You have teeth, you can read and
write, and you like working for a living". I know people who live there.
It's rare to find anyone who ventures into the woods or onto wilderness
waters without some sort of weapon. And, it's not the bears they're
concerned with. It's people and feral dogs.

Crimes in Marinas and anchorages STATS
 

found some "stats"

http://www.iccwbo.org/ccs/imb_piracy...y_maps2002.asp

Sean wrote:
Deos anyone know if it's possible to get statistics on crimes
committed in anchorages or marinas in the NorthEast USA?

I'm assuming the Coast Guard is a generic place to start but does
anyone know of anything specific?

Thanks

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"Capt. Frank Hopkins" wrote:

found some "stats"

http://www.iccwbo.org/ccs/imb_piracy...y_maps2002.asp

whew there's some sobering news. I wonder if how many of these attacks
are against private vessels?

DSK

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On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 16:18:50 GMT, "Capt. Frank Hopkins"
wrote:

found some "stats"

http://www.iccwbo.org/ccs/imb_piracy...y_maps2002.asp

Sean wrote:
Deos anyone know if it's possible to get statistics on crimes
committed in anchorages or marinas in the NorthEast USA?

I'm assuming the Coast Guard is a generic place to start but does
anyone know of anything specific?
======================================

Sounds like we're fairly safe here in North America.

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"Wayne.B" wrote in message

| Sounds like we're fairly safe here in North America.
|

Yeah.... here you only have to worry when the Coast Guard boards your boat!

CM

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This week's stats:

http://www.iccwbo.org/ccs/imb_piracy...acy_report.asp

Capt. Frank

Sean wrote:
Deos anyone know if it's possible to get statistics on crimes
committed in anchorages or marinas in the NorthEast USA?

I'm assuming the Coast Guard is a generic place to start but does
anyone know of anything specific?

Thanks

Crimes in Marinas and anchorages
 

I doubt someone stealing the prop off your outboard is going to show up on an
international piracy web site and I suspect that is what the OP was curious
about.