On Mon, 31 Aug 2015 13:55:58 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

The murder rate in Australia is about 1 per 100,000, while it is more
than four times that in the United States. Are you claiming the lower
rate down under has nothing to do with that country's tougher gun
control laws?


BTW I am still waiting

What is the outline of the law you would pass?
Explain how it saves those two TV people.,

Assassinating two people from 5 feet away could easily be done with a
single action cap and ball revolver and still have plenty of rounds
left over to wound the other lady as she ran away.

wrote:
On Mon, 31 Aug 2015 13:55:58 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

The murder rate in Australia is about 1 per 100,000, while it is more
than four times that in the United States. Are you claiming the lower
rate down under has nothing to do with that country's tougher gun
control laws?


BTW I am still waiting

What is the outline of the law you would pass?
Explain how it saves those two TV people.,

Assassinating two people from 5 feet away could easily be done with a
single action cap and ball revolver and still have plenty of rounds
left over to wound the other lady as she ran away.

Ahh...back to your "we can't do anything" premise.
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On 31 Aug 2015 20:29:22 GMT, Keyser Söze wrote:

wrote:
On Mon, 31 Aug 2015 13:55:58 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

The murder rate in Australia is about 1 per 100,000, while it is more
than four times that in the United States. Are you claiming the lower
rate down under has nothing to do with that country's tougher gun
control laws?


BTW I am still waiting

What is the outline of the law you would pass?
Explain how it saves those two TV people.,

Assassinating two people from 5 feet away could easily be done with a
single action cap and ball revolver and still have plenty of rounds
left over to wound the other lady as she ran away.

Ahh...back to your "we can't do anything" premise.

Take an extra 15 seconds and read the question before you pop out a
brain fart.


What is YOUR idea.

On 8/31/15 7:17 PM, wrote:
On 31 Aug 2015 20:29:22 GMT, Keyser Söze wrote:

wrote:
On Mon, 31 Aug 2015 13:55:58 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

The murder rate in Australia is about 1 per 100,000, while it is more
than four times that in the United States. Are you claiming the lower
rate down under has nothing to do with that country's tougher gun
control laws?


BTW I am still waiting

What is the outline of the law you would pass?
Explain how it saves those two TV people.,

Assassinating two people from 5 feet away could easily be done with a
single action cap and ball revolver and still have plenty of rounds
left over to wound the other lady as she ran away.

Ahh...back to your "we can't do anything" premise.

Take an extra 15 seconds and read the question before you pop out a
brain fart.


What is YOUR idea.


Take an extra 30 seconds to read my idea before you pop out another
brain fart.

And, of course, *your* idea was, as usual, to do nothing because "we
can't do anything." Right?

On 8/31/15 7:19 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 8/31/15 7:17 PM, wrote:
On 31 Aug 2015 20:29:22 GMT, Keyser Söze wrote:

wrote:
On Mon, 31 Aug 2015 13:55:58 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

The murder rate in Australia is about 1 per 100,000, while it is more
than four times that in the United States. Are you claiming the lower
rate down under has nothing to do with that country's tougher gun
control laws?


BTW I am still waiting

What is the outline of the law you would pass?
Explain how it saves those two TV people.,

Assassinating two people from 5 feet away could easily be done with a
single action cap and ball revolver and still have plenty of rounds
left over to wound the other lady as she ran away.

Ahh...back to your "we can't do anything" premise.

Take an extra 15 seconds and read the question before you pop out a
brain fart.


What is YOUR idea.


Take an extra 30 seconds to read my idea before you pop out another
brain fart.

And, of course, *your* idea was, as usual, to do nothing because "we
can't do anything." Right?

Oh, in case you can't find my response...and can't google it:

For starters, and I mean starters:

Licensing for anyone who wants to own a firearm, including a serious
background check and a 14-day waiting period.

Severe restrictions on the types of firearms that can be purchased.

Confiscation with compensation/tax credits of all firearms after a
certain date that are not on the approved list.

Possession of unapproved firearms a felony.

Confiscated firearms turned to scrap.

All guns owners required to purchase and maintain a multi-million dollar
liability policy that pays the victims or victims' families for deaths
or injuries caused by the firearms. No proof of insurance, no purchase
of firearms. Insurance lapses? Firearms must be turned in for destruction.

Starters, as I stated.

I might have to turn in my AR15. No biggie. Firearms to me are a hobby,
like stamp collecting and model railroading.

On 8/31/2015 4:27 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 31 Aug 2015 13:55:58 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

The murder rate in Australia is about 1 per 100,000, while it is more
than four times that in the United States. Are you claiming the lower
rate down under has nothing to do with that country's tougher gun
control laws?


BTW I am still waiting

What is the outline of the law you would pass?
Explain how it saves those two TV people.,

Assassinating two people from 5 feet away could easily be done with a
single action cap and ball revolver and still have plenty of rounds
left over to wound the other lady as she ran away.


Or a couple of lunge and parrys.

On 8/31/15 4:27 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 31 Aug 2015 13:55:58 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

The murder rate in Australia is about 1 per 100,000, while it is more
than four times that in the United States. Are you claiming the lower
rate down under has nothing to do with that country's tougher gun
control laws?


BTW I am still waiting

What is the outline of the law you would pass?
Explain how it saves those two TV people.,

Assassinating two people from 5 feet away could easily be done with a
single action cap and ball revolver and still have plenty of rounds
left over to wound the other lady as she ran away.


For starters, and I mean starters:

Licensing for anyone who wants to own a firearm, including a serious
background check and a 14-day waiting period.

Severe restrictions on the types of firearms that can be purchased.

Confiscation with compensation/tax credits of all firearms after a
certain date that are not on the approved list.

Possession of unapproved firearms a felony.

Confiscated firearms turned to scrap.

All guns owners required to purchase and maintain a multi-million dollar
liability policy that pays the victims or victims' families for deaths
or injuries caused by the firearms. No proof of insurance, no purchase
of firearms. Insurance lapses? Firearms must be turned in for destruction.

Starters, as I stated.

I might have to turn in my AR15. No biggie. Firearms to me are a hobby,
like stamp collecting and model railroading.

On Mon, 31 Aug 2015 16:52:51 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/31/15 4:27 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 31 Aug 2015 13:55:58 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

The murder rate in Australia is about 1 per 100,000, while it is more
than four times that in the United States. Are you claiming the lower
rate down under has nothing to do with that country's tougher gun
control laws?


BTW I am still waiting

What is the outline of the law you would pass?
Explain how it saves those two TV people.,

Assassinating two people from 5 feet away could easily be done with a
single action cap and ball revolver and still have plenty of rounds
left over to wound the other lady as she ran away.


For starters, and I mean starters:

Licensing for anyone who wants to own a firearm, including a serious
background check and a 14-day waiting period.

That would not have affected this case nor most of the others.


Severe restrictions on the types of firearms that can be purchased.

See above


Confiscation with compensation/tax credits of all firearms after a
certain date that are not on the approved list.


Perhaps OK if the compensation is "just"

Possession of unapproved firearms a felony.

It already is.


Confiscated firearms turned to scrap.

These days they usually are.


All guns owners required to purchase and maintain a multi-million dollar
liability policy that pays the victims or victims' families for deaths
or injuries caused by the firearms. No proof of insurance, no purchase
of firearms. Insurance lapses? Firearms must be turned in for destruction.

How much do you carry now?


Starters, as I stated.

I might have to turn in my AR15. No biggie. Firearms to me are a hobby,
like stamp collecting and model railroading.

You would be OK if they said your AR was worth $50?
In real life, if they are coming, they would want your LEs and your
wheel guns too. Guys like BAO and JPS see little difference.
How happy would you be when they chipped up your pristine SAs and gave
you a $50 for them?

On 8/31/15 7:24 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 31 Aug 2015 16:52:51 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/31/15 4:27 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 31 Aug 2015 13:55:58 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

The murder rate in Australia is about 1 per 100,000, while it is more
than four times that in the United States. Are you claiming the lower
rate down under has nothing to do with that country's tougher gun
control laws?


BTW I am still waiting

What is the outline of the law you would pass?
Explain how it saves those two TV people.,

Assassinating two people from 5 feet away could easily be done with a
single action cap and ball revolver and still have plenty of rounds
left over to wound the other lady as she ran away.


For starters, and I mean starters:

Licensing for anyone who wants to own a firearm, including a serious
background check and a 14-day waiting period.

That would not have affected this case nor most of the others.


Severe restrictions on the types of firearms that can be purchased.

See above


Confiscation with compensation/tax credits of all firearms after a
certain date that are not on the approved list.


Perhaps OK if the compensation is "just"

Possession of unapproved firearms a felony.

It already is.


Confiscated firearms turned to scrap.

These days they usually are.


All guns owners required to purchase and maintain a multi-million dollar
liability policy that pays the victims or victims' families for deaths
or injuries caused by the firearms. No proof of insurance, no purchase
of firearms. Insurance lapses? Firearms must be turned in for destruction.

How much do you carry now?


Starters, as I stated.

I might have to turn in my AR15. No biggie. Firearms to me are a hobby,
like stamp collecting and model railroading.

You would be OK if they said your AR was worth $50?
In real life, if they are coming, they would want your LEs and your
wheel guns too. Guys like BAO and JPS see little difference.
How happy would you be when they chipped up your pristine SAs and gave
you a $50 for them?





I love your plan: "Don't do anything because, well, we can't do
anything, and therefore we shouldn't do anything because, well, we can't
do anything."

That's your plan, right?

On Mon, 31 Aug 2015 19:35:15 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/31/15 7:24 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 31 Aug 2015 16:52:51 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/31/15 4:27 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 31 Aug 2015 13:55:58 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

The murder rate in Australia is about 1 per 100,000, while it is more
than four times that in the United States. Are you claiming the lower
rate down under has nothing to do with that country's tougher gun
control laws?


BTW I am still waiting

What is the outline of the law you would pass?
Explain how it saves those two TV people.,

Assassinating two people from 5 feet away could easily be done with a
single action cap and ball revolver and still have plenty of rounds
left over to wound the other lady as she ran away.


For starters, and I mean starters:

Licensing for anyone who wants to own a firearm, including a serious
background check and a 14-day waiting period.

That would not have affected this case nor most of the others.


Severe restrictions on the types of firearms that can be purchased.

See above


Confiscation with compensation/tax credits of all firearms after a
certain date that are not on the approved list.


Perhaps OK if the compensation is "just"

Possession of unapproved firearms a felony.

It already is.


Confiscated firearms turned to scrap.

These days they usually are.


All guns owners required to purchase and maintain a multi-million dollar
liability policy that pays the victims or victims' families for deaths
or injuries caused by the firearms. No proof of insurance, no purchase
of firearms. Insurance lapses? Firearms must be turned in for destruction.

How much do you carry now?


Starters, as I stated.

I might have to turn in my AR15. No biggie. Firearms to me are a hobby,
like stamp collecting and model railroading.

You would be OK if they said your AR was worth $50?
In real life, if they are coming, they would want your LEs and your
wheel guns too. Guys like BAO and JPS see little difference.
How happy would you be when they chipped up your pristine SAs and gave
you a $50 for them?





I love your plan: "Don't do anything because, well, we can't do
anything, and therefore we shouldn't do anything because, well, we can't
do anything."

That's your plan, right?

I asked you what you would do and none of it would have stopped most
(if any) of these mass murders. Maybe there is nothing we can do on
the "gun" side. The answer is on the mental health side.
Why not work on the problem of why people want to kill? It is
ridiculous to think you can simply pass a law and fix that.
I always hear about Sweden and Japan but nobody points out they also
have far fewer stabbings, strangulations and blunt force murders.

We have a far more violent culture and where the violence is the
worst, political correctness will not let us identify why.