I knew a "500" S&W was good for something...
 

On 8/26/15 1:44 PM, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 12:32:50 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 12:18:10 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/26/15 12:03 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 11:09:33 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/26/15 11:07 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 05:22:58 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

I have shot one several times. Its angry. Especially at $3. A pull

That is why I say a guy with one, should be reloading. With revolvers,
recovering the brass is not even hard.


It's a buck and a half a shot with factory loads. What's you guess about
reloading, assuming you recycled the brass a few times and were buying
readymade bullets?

You will run into the same issue with bullets as Tim was referencing,
small production runs but a buck a pop would not surprise me for a
performance bullet. Cast bullets should be a lot cheaper., maybe 30-40
cents, way less if you cast your own.. Primers and powder are pennies
a shot.
These hand cannons remind me of the chopper (motorcycles) that were
popular in the 70s. When I questioned the tiny gas tank, the guy said
"if you go that far you will want to get off anyway".
I doubt anyone is going to shoot a lot of full power loads.

I looked a little and there are some "cowboy" loads that push out
subsonic cast bullets and should shoot fairly easy.

The full power load is at least 3-4 times the energy.


I pay about 30 cents a round for decent factory 158 grain .357 MAG
rounds, similar to what I pay for .223 rifle ammo. That seems enough to
spend on ammo to me. :)

The .500 S&W is not your regular plinker.
It is like comparing a Bugatti to a Camry

Sounds like it would be a great gun for someone who is constantly seeking attention.
Gosh, it would be very photogenic, especially if the photo included lots of ammo.


You should get one and tape it onto the side of the guitar case you take
to your Old White Boys Hootenannies.

I knew a "500" S&W was good for something...
 

On 8/26/15 1:19 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 12:44:26 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:



Why would you want to "plink" with it, unless you are into hurting your
wrist/arm and annoying everyone around you?

I think that was what I said ;-)

If you shot the cowboy rounds out of it, you would save yourself a lot
of punishment.
I don't think a .357 is a plinker either, unless you are shooting .38
wad cutters out of it. That was the round I loaded most often. A 148gr
wc in front of about 2.5 gr of Bullseye was a very pleasant load to
shoot, very accurate and easy on the brass.
If I was loading a full power .357 round, the brass takes a beating,
along with the shooter. I was loading some stuff that was a bit hotter
than anything you could buy. I had a 125gr round nose half jacket that
was going 1725 FPS. That is smoking for a .357. It was not pleasant to
shoot tho and I threw the brass away.


I don't reload, so I don't care if my .357 MAG brass takes a beating. I
do dump the "empties" into a plastic box and give them to a buddy, who
does reload. But, actually, he trades the empties I give him to someone
who gives him back brass in a size he uses.

I haven't found my .357 unpleasant to shoot with full power rounds. It's
certainly noisy, though. I wear plugs inside my electronic muffs. :)

The last time I took it to the range, I went through nearly two full
50-round boxes of .357 rounds. The S&W is a terrific shooter.

I knew a "500" S&W was good for something...
 

wrote:
On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 19:40:35 -0400, Alex wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 15:52:49 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/25/15 3:41 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 14:17:04 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsOJr9RHlh8


Actually this fellow is a terrific shot who has posted some amazing
firearm vids, if you are into that sort of thing.

He did get a snack out of this shoot.
It was interesting how fast it shed the energy on the watermelons

I'd be reluctant to shoot and waste a tasty watermelon!

I'm not sure what the hell you'd want a revolver that size for, other
than shooting watermelons. It sure isn't something you'd be able to
handle quickly and properly if you were in Alaska and were about to be
eaten by a huge bear.
I am not sure why you couldn't handle it quickly. The follow up shot
may be a bit slower but you should be able to get on target pretty
quickly if you handle the gun enough to be comfortable with it.

This is the kind of gun that almost demands that you reload.
You could load up some stuff at .45 ACP ballistics to get used to
pointing the gun, then load full power to get used to the recoil, if
that is possible.

It's not that bad and there are YouTube videos of women shooting it with
one hand!
It is still not something I would like to shoot a lot with full power
loads. That is particularly true if I was just doing point and shoot
drills.
I agree you should do some training with the full power load but a lot
is just as effective with a reduced charge. Cheaper too since you
could shoot cast bullets at subsonic speeds.


It's part of my collection but something I'll bring out when I shoot
with my friends who have never fired one. A lot of people at the range
ask about it and I'll let them fire it too if they have experience with
firearms. Same with the .50AE Desert Eagle. Sure they are novelty
guns, more than anything else, but they are fun to shoot!

I knew a "500" S&W was good for something...
 

Tim wrote:
I have shot one several times. Its angry. Especially at $3. A pull


$1.50 these days. Still hungry, but affordable for light use.

I knew a "500" S&W was good for something...
 

True North wrote:
Keyser Söze
On 8/26/15 8:22 AM, Tim wrote:
I have shot one several times. Its angry. Especially at $3. A pull


"I suppose if you are a "collector" of S&W revolvers, it is one you might
like to have. I've watched a handful of videos of "professional"
shooters firing it off at various targets, and it doesn't seem as if it
were much fun to shoot...really heavy revolver, lots of recoil and
muzzle flip, loud, expensive ammo. We don't have much "grizz" around
here, and if I really needed a revolver for "defense," I think my .357
MAG is more than sufficient.

$3 a pop for ammo? Now *that* is a giggle."




You would need a bloated 'Uncle Sam' pension to afford that ammo.

We're not all retired yet. My income allows me to have nice toys.

I'm not eligible for any pensions yet my 401K will serve me well. This
downturn in the market has been a great buying opportunity for those of
us not drawing from our retirement funds!

I knew a "500" S&W was good for something...
 

Tim wrote:
3 bucks a whack was when it was introduced. Don't know what it is now. I don't have one and don't want one. That is unless it's a bolt action long gun. And yes it's not a production for the masses so the expense justifies for the product.

About half that...

http://www.wikiarms.com/group/500SW

I knew a "500" S&W was good for something...
 

John H. wrote:
On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 05:38:43 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

Keyser Söze
On 8/26/15 8:22 AM, Tim wrote:
I have shot one several times. Its angry. Especially at $3. A pull


"I suppose if you are a "collector" of S&W revolvers, it is one you might
like to have. I've watched a handful of videos of "professional"
shooters firing it off at various targets, and it doesn't seem as if it
were much fun to shoot...really heavy revolver, lots of recoil and
muzzle flip, loud, expensive ammo. We don't have much "grizz" around
here, and if I really needed a revolver for "defense," I think my .357
MAG is more than sufficient.

$3 a pop for ammo? Now *that* is a giggle."




You would need a bloated 'Uncle Sam' pension to afford that ammo.
Your Canadian pension wouldn't cover it, donne'?
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

There's a lot he can't afford. He should have learned from his big
buddy that paying taxes is optional - until you are caught.

I knew a "500" S&W was good for something...
 

On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 20:32:53 -0400, Alex wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 19:40:35 -0400, Alex wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 15:52:49 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/25/15 3:41 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 14:17:04 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsOJr9RHlh8


Actually this fellow is a terrific shot who has posted some amazing
firearm vids, if you are into that sort of thing.

He did get a snack out of this shoot.
It was interesting how fast it shed the energy on the watermelons

I'd be reluctant to shoot and waste a tasty watermelon!

I'm not sure what the hell you'd want a revolver that size for, other
than shooting watermelons. It sure isn't something you'd be able to
handle quickly and properly if you were in Alaska and were about to be
eaten by a huge bear.
I am not sure why you couldn't handle it quickly. The follow up shot
may be a bit slower but you should be able to get on target pretty
quickly if you handle the gun enough to be comfortable with it.

This is the kind of gun that almost demands that you reload.
You could load up some stuff at .45 ACP ballistics to get used to
pointing the gun, then load full power to get used to the recoil, if
that is possible.

It's not that bad and there are YouTube videos of women shooting it with
one hand!
It is still not something I would like to shoot a lot with full power
loads. That is particularly true if I was just doing point and shoot
drills.
I agree you should do some training with the full power load but a lot
is just as effective with a reduced charge. Cheaper too since you
could shoot cast bullets at subsonic speeds.


It's part of my collection but something I'll bring out when I shoot
with my friends who have never fired one. A lot of people at the range
ask about it and I'll let them fire it too if they have experience with
firearms. Same with the .50AE Desert Eagle. Sure they are novelty
guns, more than anything else, but they are fun to shoot!

I'll bet you've never posted pictures of your ammo either!
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

I knew a "500" S&W was good for something...
 

On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 20:39:40 -0400, Alex wrote:

True North wrote:
Keyser Söze
On 8/26/15 8:22 AM, Tim wrote:
I have shot one several times. Its angry. Especially at $3. A pull


"I suppose if you are a "collector" of S&W revolvers, it is one you might
like to have. I've watched a handful of videos of "professional"
shooters firing it off at various targets, and it doesn't seem as if it
were much fun to shoot...really heavy revolver, lots of recoil and
muzzle flip, loud, expensive ammo. We don't have much "grizz" around
here, and if I really needed a revolver for "defense," I think my .357
MAG is more than sufficient.

$3 a pop for ammo? Now *that* is a giggle."




You would need a bloated 'Uncle Sam' pension to afford that ammo.

We're not all retired yet. My income allows me to have nice toys.

I'm not eligible for any pensions yet my 401K will serve me well. This
downturn in the market has been a great buying opportunity for those of
us not drawing from our retirement funds!

So which of the Vanguard ETFs should be getting my $57?
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

I knew a "500" S&W was good for something...
 

On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 10:44:13 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

Greg, at those pressures it can often times swell the cylinders. A guy I know did that with a .44 mag and made it hotter. It swelled the cylinder bad enough he had to knock the spent shells out with hammer slightly tapping on a metal rod. Not the best idea

I worked up to that load, I didn't just stuff the case and give it a
try ;-)
It ejected just fine.