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I knew a "500" S&W was good for something...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsOJr9RHlh8 Actually this fellow is a terrific shot who has posted some amazing firearm vids, if you are into that sort of thing. He did get a snack out of this shoot. |
I knew a "500" S&W was good for something...
On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 14:17:04 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsOJr9RHlh8 Actually this fellow is a terrific shot who has posted some amazing firearm vids, if you are into that sort of thing. He did get a snack out of this shoot. It was interesting how fast it shed the energy on the watermelons |
I knew a "500" S&W was good for something...
On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 15:52:49 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote: On 8/25/15 3:41 PM, wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 14:17:04 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsOJr9RHlh8 Actually this fellow is a terrific shot who has posted some amazing firearm vids, if you are into that sort of thing. He did get a snack out of this shoot. It was interesting how fast it shed the energy on the watermelons I'd be reluctant to shoot and waste a tasty watermelon! I'm not sure what the hell you'd want a revolver that size for, other than shooting watermelons. It sure isn't something you'd be able to handle quickly and properly if you were in Alaska and were about to be eaten by a huge bear. I am not sure why you couldn't handle it quickly. The follow up shot may be a bit slower but you should be able to get on target pretty quickly if you handle the gun enough to be comfortable with it. This is the kind of gun that almost demands that you reload. You could load up some stuff at .45 ACP ballistics to get used to pointing the gun, then load full power to get used to the recoil, if that is possible. |
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On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 15:52:49 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 8/25/15 3:41 PM, wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 14:17:04 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsOJr9RHlh8 Actually this fellow is a terrific shot who has posted some amazing firearm vids, if you are into that sort of thing. He did get a snack out of this shoot. It was interesting how fast it shed the energy on the watermelons I'd be reluctant to shoot and waste a tasty watermelon! I'm not sure what the hell you'd want a revolver that size for, other than shooting watermelons. It sure isn't something you'd be able to handle quickly and properly if you were in Alaska and were about to be eaten by a huge bear. I am not sure why you couldn't handle it quickly. The follow up shot may be a bit slower but you should be able to get on target pretty quickly if you handle the gun enough to be comfortable with it. This is the kind of gun that almost demands that you reload. You could load up some stuff at .45 ACP ballistics to get used to pointing the gun, then load full power to get used to the recoil, if that is possible. It's not that bad and there are YouTube videos of women shooting it with one hand! |
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On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 19:40:35 -0400, Alex wrote:
wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 15:52:49 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 8/25/15 3:41 PM, wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 14:17:04 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsOJr9RHlh8 Actually this fellow is a terrific shot who has posted some amazing firearm vids, if you are into that sort of thing. He did get a snack out of this shoot. It was interesting how fast it shed the energy on the watermelons I'd be reluctant to shoot and waste a tasty watermelon! I'm not sure what the hell you'd want a revolver that size for, other than shooting watermelons. It sure isn't something you'd be able to handle quickly and properly if you were in Alaska and were about to be eaten by a huge bear. I am not sure why you couldn't handle it quickly. The follow up shot may be a bit slower but you should be able to get on target pretty quickly if you handle the gun enough to be comfortable with it. This is the kind of gun that almost demands that you reload. You could load up some stuff at .45 ACP ballistics to get used to pointing the gun, then load full power to get used to the recoil, if that is possible. It's not that bad and there are YouTube videos of women shooting it with one hand! It is still not something I would like to shoot a lot with full power loads. That is particularly true if I was just doing point and shoot drills. I agree you should do some training with the full power load but a lot is just as effective with a reduced charge. Cheaper too since you could shoot cast bullets at subsonic speeds. |
I knew a "500" S&W was good for something...
I have shot one several times. Its angry. Especially at $3. A pull
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I knew a "500" S&W was good for something...
I think I'd be more suitable for a rifle cartridge myself
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On 8/26/15 8:22 AM, Tim wrote:
I have shot one several times. Its angry. Especially at $3. A pull I suppose if you are a "collector" of S&W revolvers, it is one you might like to have. I've watched a handful of videos of "professional" shooters firing it off at various targets, and it doesn't seem as if it were much fun to shoot...really heavy revolver, lots of recoil and muzzle flip, loud, expensive ammo. We don't have much "grizz" around here, and if I really needed a revolver for "defense," I think my .357 MAG is more than sufficient. $3 a pop for ammo? Now *that* is a giggle. |
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Keyser Söze
On 8/26/15 8:22 AM, Tim wrote: I have shot one several times. Its angry. Especially at $3. A pull "I suppose if you are a "collector" of S&W revolvers, it is one you might like to have. I've watched a handful of videos of "professional" shooters firing it off at various targets, and it doesn't seem as if it were much fun to shoot...really heavy revolver, lots of recoil and muzzle flip, loud, expensive ammo. We don't have much "grizz" around here, and if I really needed a revolver for "defense," I think my .357 MAG is more than sufficient. $3 a pop for ammo? Now *that* is a giggle." You would need a bloated 'Uncle Sam' pension to afford that ammo. |
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3 bucks a pop sounds reasonable considering there's probably 1 .500 to a few mil of 9mm
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On 8/26/15 8:38 AM, True North wrote:
Keyser Söze On 8/26/15 8:22 AM, Tim wrote: I have shot one several times. Its angry. Especially at $3. A pull "I suppose if you are a "collector" of S&W revolvers, it is one you might like to have. I've watched a handful of videos of "professional" shooters firing it off at various targets, and it doesn't seem as if it were much fun to shoot...really heavy revolver, lots of recoil and muzzle flip, loud, expensive ammo. We don't have much "grizz" around here, and if I really needed a revolver for "defense," I think my .357 MAG is more than sufficient. $3 a pop for ammo? Now *that* is a giggle." You would need a bloated 'Uncle Sam' pension to afford that ammo. Well, reloading might be cheaper, but you'd have to have the reloading equipment and the consumables. I don't reload at all, so I have no idea what it might cost. |
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On 8/26/15 8:43 AM, Tim wrote:
3 bucks a pop sounds reasonable considering there's probably 1 .500 to a few mil of 9mm Reasonable in terms of what? $3 a shot for ammo...??? If it is .500 S&W Magnum, it is $1.50 to $2.00 a round for "ordinary" name brand ammo. That's still about five times what I pay for good ammo for my AR 15 or ..357 MAG revolver. I think it is more of a bragging rights firearm than anything really useful for either target shooting or defense against grizz. |
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3 bucks a whack was when it was introduced. Don't know what it is now. I don't have one and don't want one. That is unless it's a bolt action long gun. And yes it's not a production for the masses so the expense justifies for the product.
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Speaking of "reasonable" I have about 3 thousand rounds of .223 I've collected over the years. Average price was .11c a round.
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On 8/26/15 9:19 AM, Tim wrote:
Speaking of "reasonable" I have about 3 thousand rounds of .223 I've collected over the years. Average price was .11c a round. How much are you paying, Harry? My "favorite" cheap .223 ammo is Wolf Gold, for which I'd be paying 29 cents a round, if I were buying any. I have a ton of it, though, probably as much as you have...a few thousand rounds. I like it because it is clean firing, reliable, brass cased, non-ferrous FMJ, and accurate enough for me. There's more accurate target ammo out there, but I'm damned close to where I want to be with the Wolf. When everything is right, I can shoot a couple of 1" groups at 100 yards, though most of my groups seem stuck at 1-1/2". That's using a bag as a rest, not offhand. This is what I'm using, mostly: http://tinyurl.com/ojd4gxe |
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On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 05:38:43 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:
Keyser Söze On 8/26/15 8:22 AM, Tim wrote: I have shot one several times. Its angry. Especially at $3. A pull "I suppose if you are a "collector" of S&W revolvers, it is one you might like to have. I've watched a handful of videos of "professional" shooters firing it off at various targets, and it doesn't seem as if it were much fun to shoot...really heavy revolver, lots of recoil and muzzle flip, loud, expensive ammo. We don't have much "grizz" around here, and if I really needed a revolver for "defense," I think my .357 MAG is more than sufficient. $3 a pop for ammo? Now *that* is a giggle." You would need a bloated 'Uncle Sam' pension to afford that ammo. Your Canadian pension wouldn't cover it, donne'? -- Ban idiots, not guns! |
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On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 05:22:58 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote: I have shot one several times. Its angry. Especially at $3. A pull That is why I say a guy with one, should be reloading. With revolvers, recovering the brass is not even hard. |
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On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 11:09:33 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote: On 8/26/15 11:07 AM, wrote: On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 05:22:58 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: I have shot one several times. Its angry. Especially at $3. A pull That is why I say a guy with one, should be reloading. With revolvers, recovering the brass is not even hard. It's a buck and a half a shot with factory loads. What's you guess about reloading, assuming you recycled the brass a few times and were buying readymade bullets? You will run into the same issue with bullets as Tim was referencing, small production runs but a buck a pop would not surprise me for a performance bullet. Cast bullets should be a lot cheaper., maybe 30-40 cents, way less if you cast your own.. Primers and powder are pennies a shot. These hand cannons remind me of the chopper (motorcycles) that were popular in the 70s. When I questioned the tiny gas tank, the guy said "if you go that far you will want to get off anyway". I doubt anyone is going to shoot a lot of full power loads. I looked a little and there are some "cowboy" loads that push out subsonic cast bullets and should shoot fairly easy. The full power load is at least 3-4 times the energy. |
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On 8/26/15 12:03 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 11:09:33 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 8/26/15 11:07 AM, wrote: On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 05:22:58 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: I have shot one several times. Its angry. Especially at $3. A pull That is why I say a guy with one, should be reloading. With revolvers, recovering the brass is not even hard. It's a buck and a half a shot with factory loads. What's you guess about reloading, assuming you recycled the brass a few times and were buying readymade bullets? You will run into the same issue with bullets as Tim was referencing, small production runs but a buck a pop would not surprise me for a performance bullet. Cast bullets should be a lot cheaper., maybe 30-40 cents, way less if you cast your own.. Primers and powder are pennies a shot. These hand cannons remind me of the chopper (motorcycles) that were popular in the 70s. When I questioned the tiny gas tank, the guy said "if you go that far you will want to get off anyway". I doubt anyone is going to shoot a lot of full power loads. I looked a little and there are some "cowboy" loads that push out subsonic cast bullets and should shoot fairly easy. The full power load is at least 3-4 times the energy. I pay about 30 cents a round for decent factory 158 grain .357 MAG rounds, similar to what I pay for .223 rifle ammo. That seems enough to spend on ammo to me. :) |
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Tim wrote:
I think I'd be more suitable for a rifle cartridge myself Problem with rifle round in a pistol, is the designed burn length. You get lots of noise and a huge fireball out of a pistol. Would need to reload to get better performance. Only pistol I sold was a Ruger .30 Carbine revolver. As my dad said, you can cook the game at the same time you shoot it. Was like the 3rd loudest pistol at the time. 70's. |
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On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 12:18:10 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote: On 8/26/15 12:03 PM, wrote: On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 11:09:33 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 8/26/15 11:07 AM, wrote: On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 05:22:58 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: I have shot one several times. Its angry. Especially at $3. A pull That is why I say a guy with one, should be reloading. With revolvers, recovering the brass is not even hard. It's a buck and a half a shot with factory loads. What's you guess about reloading, assuming you recycled the brass a few times and were buying readymade bullets? You will run into the same issue with bullets as Tim was referencing, small production runs but a buck a pop would not surprise me for a performance bullet. Cast bullets should be a lot cheaper., maybe 30-40 cents, way less if you cast your own.. Primers and powder are pennies a shot. These hand cannons remind me of the chopper (motorcycles) that were popular in the 70s. When I questioned the tiny gas tank, the guy said "if you go that far you will want to get off anyway". I doubt anyone is going to shoot a lot of full power loads. I looked a little and there are some "cowboy" loads that push out subsonic cast bullets and should shoot fairly easy. The full power load is at least 3-4 times the energy. I pay about 30 cents a round for decent factory 158 grain .357 MAG rounds, similar to what I pay for .223 rifle ammo. That seems enough to spend on ammo to me. :) The .500 S&W is not your regular plinker. It is like comparing a Bugatti to a Camry |
I knew a "500" S&W was good for something...
On 8/26/15 12:32 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 12:18:10 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 8/26/15 12:03 PM, wrote: On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 11:09:33 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 8/26/15 11:07 AM, wrote: On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 05:22:58 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: I have shot one several times. Its angry. Especially at $3. A pull That is why I say a guy with one, should be reloading. With revolvers, recovering the brass is not even hard. It's a buck and a half a shot with factory loads. What's you guess about reloading, assuming you recycled the brass a few times and were buying readymade bullets? You will run into the same issue with bullets as Tim was referencing, small production runs but a buck a pop would not surprise me for a performance bullet. Cast bullets should be a lot cheaper., maybe 30-40 cents, way less if you cast your own.. Primers and powder are pennies a shot. These hand cannons remind me of the chopper (motorcycles) that were popular in the 70s. When I questioned the tiny gas tank, the guy said "if you go that far you will want to get off anyway". I doubt anyone is going to shoot a lot of full power loads. I looked a little and there are some "cowboy" loads that push out subsonic cast bullets and should shoot fairly easy. The full power load is at least 3-4 times the energy. I pay about 30 cents a round for decent factory 158 grain .357 MAG rounds, similar to what I pay for .223 rifle ammo. That seems enough to spend on ammo to me. :) The .500 S&W is not your regular plinker. It is like comparing a Bugatti to a Camry Why would you want to "plink" with it, unless you are into hurting your wrist/arm and annoying everyone around you? |
I knew a "500" S&W was good for something...
On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 12:44:26 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote: On 8/26/15 12:32 PM, wrote: On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 12:18:10 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 8/26/15 12:03 PM, wrote: On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 11:09:33 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 8/26/15 11:07 AM, wrote: On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 05:22:58 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: I have shot one several times. Its angry. Especially at $3. A pull That is why I say a guy with one, should be reloading. With revolvers, recovering the brass is not even hard. It's a buck and a half a shot with factory loads. What's you guess about reloading, assuming you recycled the brass a few times and were buying readymade bullets? You will run into the same issue with bullets as Tim was referencing, small production runs but a buck a pop would not surprise me for a performance bullet. Cast bullets should be a lot cheaper., maybe 30-40 cents, way less if you cast your own.. Primers and powder are pennies a shot. These hand cannons remind me of the chopper (motorcycles) that were popular in the 70s. When I questioned the tiny gas tank, the guy said "if you go that far you will want to get off anyway". I doubt anyone is going to shoot a lot of full power loads. I looked a little and there are some "cowboy" loads that push out subsonic cast bullets and should shoot fairly easy. The full power load is at least 3-4 times the energy. I pay about 30 cents a round for decent factory 158 grain .357 MAG rounds, similar to what I pay for .223 rifle ammo. That seems enough to spend on ammo to me. :) The .500 S&W is not your regular plinker. It is like comparing a Bugatti to a Camry Why would you want to "plink" with it, unless you are into hurting your wrist/arm and annoying everyone around you? I think that was what I said ;-) If you shot the cowboy rounds out of it, you would save yourself a lot of punishment. I don't think a .357 is a plinker either, unless you are shooting .38 wad cutters out of it. That was the round I loaded most often. A 148gr wc in front of about 2.5 gr of Bullseye was a very pleasant load to shoot, very accurate and easy on the brass. If I was loading a full power .357 round, the brass takes a beating, along with the shooter. I was loading some stuff that was a bit hotter than anything you could buy. I had a 125gr round nose half jacket that was going 1725 FPS. That is smoking for a .357. It was not pleasant to shoot tho and I threw the brass away. |
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On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 12:32:50 -0400, wrote:
On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 12:18:10 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 8/26/15 12:03 PM, wrote: On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 11:09:33 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 8/26/15 11:07 AM, wrote: On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 05:22:58 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: I have shot one several times. Its angry. Especially at $3. A pull That is why I say a guy with one, should be reloading. With revolvers, recovering the brass is not even hard. It's a buck and a half a shot with factory loads. What's you guess about reloading, assuming you recycled the brass a few times and were buying readymade bullets? You will run into the same issue with bullets as Tim was referencing, small production runs but a buck a pop would not surprise me for a performance bullet. Cast bullets should be a lot cheaper., maybe 30-40 cents, way less if you cast your own.. Primers and powder are pennies a shot. These hand cannons remind me of the chopper (motorcycles) that were popular in the 70s. When I questioned the tiny gas tank, the guy said "if you go that far you will want to get off anyway". I doubt anyone is going to shoot a lot of full power loads. I looked a little and there are some "cowboy" loads that push out subsonic cast bullets and should shoot fairly easy. The full power load is at least 3-4 times the energy. I pay about 30 cents a round for decent factory 158 grain .357 MAG rounds, similar to what I pay for .223 rifle ammo. That seems enough to spend on ammo to me. :) The .500 S&W is not your regular plinker. It is like comparing a Bugatti to a Camry Sounds like it would be a great gun for someone who is constantly seeking attention. Gosh, it would be very photogenic, especially if the photo included lots of ammo. -- Ban idiots, not guns! |
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Greg, at those pressures it can often times swell the cylinders. A guy I know did that with a .44 mag and made it hotter. It swelled the cylinder bad enough he had to knock the spent shells out with hammer slightly tapping on a metal rod. Not the best idea
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On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 11:09:33 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 8/26/15 11:07 AM, wrote: On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 05:22:58 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: I have shot one several times. Its angry. Especially at $3. A pull That is why I say a guy with one, should be reloading. With revolvers, recovering the brass is not even hard. It's a buck and a half a shot with factory loads. What's you guess about reloading, assuming you recycled the brass a few times and were buying readymade bullets? You will run into the same issue with bullets as Tim was referencing, small production runs but a buck a pop would not surprise me for a performance bullet. Cast bullets should be a lot cheaper., maybe 30-40 cents, way less if you cast your own.. Primers and powder are pennies a shot. These hand cannons remind me of the chopper (motorcycles) that were popular in the 70s. When I questioned the tiny gas tank, the guy said "if you go that far you will want to get off anyway". I doubt anyone is going to shoot a lot of full power loads. I looked a little and there are some "cowboy" loads that push out subsonic cast bullets and should shoot fairly easy. The full power load is at least 3-4 times the energy. If you are into pistols like these, you are probably in to reloading. Developing loads, etc. |
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On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 12:44:26 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 8/26/15 12:32 PM, wrote: On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 12:18:10 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 8/26/15 12:03 PM, wrote: On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 11:09:33 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 8/26/15 11:07 AM, wrote: On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 05:22:58 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: I have shot one several times. Its angry. Especially at $3. A pull That is why I say a guy with one, should be reloading. With revolvers, recovering the brass is not even hard. It's a buck and a half a shot with factory loads. What's you guess about reloading, assuming you recycled the brass a few times and were buying readymade bullets? You will run into the same issue with bullets as Tim was referencing, small production runs but a buck a pop would not surprise me for a performance bullet. Cast bullets should be a lot cheaper., maybe 30-40 cents, way less if you cast your own.. Primers and powder are pennies a shot. These hand cannons remind me of the chopper (motorcycles) that were popular in the 70s. When I questioned the tiny gas tank, the guy said "if you go that far you will want to get off anyway". I doubt anyone is going to shoot a lot of full power loads. I looked a little and there are some "cowboy" loads that push out subsonic cast bullets and should shoot fairly easy. The full power load is at least 3-4 times the energy. I pay about 30 cents a round for decent factory 158 grain .357 MAG rounds, similar to what I pay for .223 rifle ammo. That seems enough to spend on ammo to me. :) The .500 S&W is not your regular plinker. It is like comparing a Bugatti to a Camry Why would you want to "plink" with it, unless you are into hurting your wrist/arm and annoying everyone around you? I think that was what I said ;-) If you shot the cowboy rounds out of it, you would save yourself a lot of punishment. I don't think a .357 is a plinker either, unless you are shooting .38 wad cutters out of it. That was the round I loaded most often. A 148gr wc in front of about 2.5 gr of Bullseye was a very pleasant load to shoot, very accurate and easy on the brass. If I was loading a full power .357 round, the brass takes a beating, along with the shooter. I was loading some stuff that was a bit hotter than anything you could buy. I had a 125gr round nose half jacket that was going 1725 FPS. That is smoking for a .357. It was not pleasant to shoot tho and I threw the brass away. I agree. I rarely fire 357 in the 357. Mostly 38's or reloaded 357 with semi wad utters. |
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On 8/26/15 1:44 PM, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 12:32:50 -0400, wrote: On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 12:18:10 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 8/26/15 12:03 PM, wrote: On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 11:09:33 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 8/26/15 11:07 AM, wrote: On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 05:22:58 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: I have shot one several times. Its angry. Especially at $3. A pull That is why I say a guy with one, should be reloading. With revolvers, recovering the brass is not even hard. It's a buck and a half a shot with factory loads. What's you guess about reloading, assuming you recycled the brass a few times and were buying readymade bullets? You will run into the same issue with bullets as Tim was referencing, small production runs but a buck a pop would not surprise me for a performance bullet. Cast bullets should be a lot cheaper., maybe 30-40 cents, way less if you cast your own.. Primers and powder are pennies a shot. These hand cannons remind me of the chopper (motorcycles) that were popular in the 70s. When I questioned the tiny gas tank, the guy said "if you go that far you will want to get off anyway". I doubt anyone is going to shoot a lot of full power loads. I looked a little and there are some "cowboy" loads that push out subsonic cast bullets and should shoot fairly easy. The full power load is at least 3-4 times the energy. I pay about 30 cents a round for decent factory 158 grain .357 MAG rounds, similar to what I pay for .223 rifle ammo. That seems enough to spend on ammo to me. :) The .500 S&W is not your regular plinker. It is like comparing a Bugatti to a Camry Sounds like it would be a great gun for someone who is constantly seeking attention. Gosh, it would be very photogenic, especially if the photo included lots of ammo. You should get one and tape it onto the side of the guitar case you take to your Old White Boys Hootenannies. |
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On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 19:40:35 -0400, Alex wrote: wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 15:52:49 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 8/25/15 3:41 PM, wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 14:17:04 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsOJr9RHlh8 Actually this fellow is a terrific shot who has posted some amazing firearm vids, if you are into that sort of thing. He did get a snack out of this shoot. It was interesting how fast it shed the energy on the watermelons I'd be reluctant to shoot and waste a tasty watermelon! I'm not sure what the hell you'd want a revolver that size for, other than shooting watermelons. It sure isn't something you'd be able to handle quickly and properly if you were in Alaska and were about to be eaten by a huge bear. I am not sure why you couldn't handle it quickly. The follow up shot may be a bit slower but you should be able to get on target pretty quickly if you handle the gun enough to be comfortable with it. This is the kind of gun that almost demands that you reload. You could load up some stuff at .45 ACP ballistics to get used to pointing the gun, then load full power to get used to the recoil, if that is possible. It's not that bad and there are YouTube videos of women shooting it with one hand! It is still not something I would like to shoot a lot with full power loads. That is particularly true if I was just doing point and shoot drills. I agree you should do some training with the full power load but a lot is just as effective with a reduced charge. Cheaper too since you could shoot cast bullets at subsonic speeds. It's part of my collection but something I'll bring out when I shoot with my friends who have never fired one. A lot of people at the range ask about it and I'll let them fire it too if they have experience with firearms. Same with the .50AE Desert Eagle. Sure they are novelty guns, more than anything else, but they are fun to shoot! |
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Tim wrote:
I have shot one several times. Its angry. Especially at $3. A pull $1.50 these days. Still hungry, but affordable for light use. |
I knew a "500" S&W was good for something...
True North wrote:
Keyser Söze On 8/26/15 8:22 AM, Tim wrote: I have shot one several times. Its angry. Especially at $3. A pull "I suppose if you are a "collector" of S&W revolvers, it is one you might like to have. I've watched a handful of videos of "professional" shooters firing it off at various targets, and it doesn't seem as if it were much fun to shoot...really heavy revolver, lots of recoil and muzzle flip, loud, expensive ammo. We don't have much "grizz" around here, and if I really needed a revolver for "defense," I think my .357 MAG is more than sufficient. $3 a pop for ammo? Now *that* is a giggle." You would need a bloated 'Uncle Sam' pension to afford that ammo. We're not all retired yet. My income allows me to have nice toys. I'm not eligible for any pensions yet my 401K will serve me well. This downturn in the market has been a great buying opportunity for those of us not drawing from our retirement funds! |
I knew a "500" S&W was good for something...
Tim wrote:
3 bucks a whack was when it was introduced. Don't know what it is now. I don't have one and don't want one. That is unless it's a bolt action long gun. And yes it's not a production for the masses so the expense justifies for the product. About half that... http://www.wikiarms.com/group/500SW |
I knew a "500" S&W was good for something...
John H. wrote:
On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 05:38:43 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote: Keyser Söze On 8/26/15 8:22 AM, Tim wrote: I have shot one several times. Its angry. Especially at $3. A pull "I suppose if you are a "collector" of S&W revolvers, it is one you might like to have. I've watched a handful of videos of "professional" shooters firing it off at various targets, and it doesn't seem as if it were much fun to shoot...really heavy revolver, lots of recoil and muzzle flip, loud, expensive ammo. We don't have much "grizz" around here, and if I really needed a revolver for "defense," I think my .357 MAG is more than sufficient. $3 a pop for ammo? Now *that* is a giggle." You would need a bloated 'Uncle Sam' pension to afford that ammo. Your Canadian pension wouldn't cover it, donne'? -- Ban idiots, not guns! There's a lot he can't afford. He should have learned from his big buddy that paying taxes is optional - until you are caught. |
I knew a "500" S&W was good for something...
On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 20:32:53 -0400, Alex wrote:
wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 19:40:35 -0400, Alex wrote: wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 15:52:49 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 8/25/15 3:41 PM, wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 14:17:04 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsOJr9RHlh8 Actually this fellow is a terrific shot who has posted some amazing firearm vids, if you are into that sort of thing. He did get a snack out of this shoot. It was interesting how fast it shed the energy on the watermelons I'd be reluctant to shoot and waste a tasty watermelon! I'm not sure what the hell you'd want a revolver that size for, other than shooting watermelons. It sure isn't something you'd be able to handle quickly and properly if you were in Alaska and were about to be eaten by a huge bear. I am not sure why you couldn't handle it quickly. The follow up shot may be a bit slower but you should be able to get on target pretty quickly if you handle the gun enough to be comfortable with it. This is the kind of gun that almost demands that you reload. You could load up some stuff at .45 ACP ballistics to get used to pointing the gun, then load full power to get used to the recoil, if that is possible. It's not that bad and there are YouTube videos of women shooting it with one hand! It is still not something I would like to shoot a lot with full power loads. That is particularly true if I was just doing point and shoot drills. I agree you should do some training with the full power load but a lot is just as effective with a reduced charge. Cheaper too since you could shoot cast bullets at subsonic speeds. It's part of my collection but something I'll bring out when I shoot with my friends who have never fired one. A lot of people at the range ask about it and I'll let them fire it too if they have experience with firearms. Same with the .50AE Desert Eagle. Sure they are novelty guns, more than anything else, but they are fun to shoot! I'll bet you've never posted pictures of your ammo either! -- Ban idiots, not guns! |
I knew a "500" S&W was good for something...
On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 20:39:40 -0400, Alex wrote:
True North wrote: Keyser Söze On 8/26/15 8:22 AM, Tim wrote: I have shot one several times. Its angry. Especially at $3. A pull "I suppose if you are a "collector" of S&W revolvers, it is one you might like to have. I've watched a handful of videos of "professional" shooters firing it off at various targets, and it doesn't seem as if it were much fun to shoot...really heavy revolver, lots of recoil and muzzle flip, loud, expensive ammo. We don't have much "grizz" around here, and if I really needed a revolver for "defense," I think my .357 MAG is more than sufficient. $3 a pop for ammo? Now *that* is a giggle." You would need a bloated 'Uncle Sam' pension to afford that ammo. We're not all retired yet. My income allows me to have nice toys. I'm not eligible for any pensions yet my 401K will serve me well. This downturn in the market has been a great buying opportunity for those of us not drawing from our retirement funds! So which of the Vanguard ETFs should be getting my $57? -- Ban idiots, not guns! |
I knew a "500" S&W was good for something...
On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 10:44:13 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote: Greg, at those pressures it can often times swell the cylinders. A guy I know did that with a .44 mag and made it hotter. It swelled the cylinder bad enough he had to knock the spent shells out with hammer slightly tapping on a metal rod. Not the best idea I worked up to that load, I didn't just stuff the case and give it a try ;-) It ejected just fine. |
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