I knew a "500" S&W was good for something...
 

On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 11:09:33 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/26/15 11:07 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 05:22:58 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

I have shot one several times. Its angry. Especially at $3. A pull

That is why I say a guy with one, should be reloading. With revolvers,
recovering the brass is not even hard.


It's a buck and a half a shot with factory loads. What's you guess about
reloading, assuming you recycled the brass a few times and were buying
readymade bullets?

You will run into the same issue with bullets as Tim was referencing,
small production runs but a buck a pop would not surprise me for a
performance bullet. Cast bullets should be a lot cheaper., maybe 30-40
cents, way less if you cast your own.. Primers and powder are pennies
a shot.
These hand cannons remind me of the chopper (motorcycles) that were
popular in the 70s. When I questioned the tiny gas tank, the guy said
"if you go that far you will want to get off anyway".
I doubt anyone is going to shoot a lot of full power loads.

I looked a little and there are some "cowboy" loads that push out
subsonic cast bullets and should shoot fairly easy.

The full power load is at least 3-4 times the energy.

I knew a "500" S&W was good for something...
 

On 8/26/15 12:03 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 11:09:33 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/26/15 11:07 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 05:22:58 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

I have shot one several times. Its angry. Especially at $3. A pull

That is why I say a guy with one, should be reloading. With revolvers,
recovering the brass is not even hard.


It's a buck and a half a shot with factory loads. What's you guess about
reloading, assuming you recycled the brass a few times and were buying
readymade bullets?

You will run into the same issue with bullets as Tim was referencing,
small production runs but a buck a pop would not surprise me for a
performance bullet. Cast bullets should be a lot cheaper., maybe 30-40
cents, way less if you cast your own.. Primers and powder are pennies
a shot.
These hand cannons remind me of the chopper (motorcycles) that were
popular in the 70s. When I questioned the tiny gas tank, the guy said
"if you go that far you will want to get off anyway".
I doubt anyone is going to shoot a lot of full power loads.

I looked a little and there are some "cowboy" loads that push out
subsonic cast bullets and should shoot fairly easy.

The full power load is at least 3-4 times the energy.


I pay about 30 cents a round for decent factory 158 grain .357 MAG
rounds, similar to what I pay for .223 rifle ammo. That seems enough to
spend on ammo to me. :)

I knew a "500" S&W was good for something...
 

Tim wrote:
I think I'd be more suitable for a rifle cartridge myself

Problem with rifle round in a pistol, is the designed burn length. You get
lots of noise and a huge fireball out of a pistol. Would need to reload to
get better performance. Only pistol I sold was a Ruger .30 Carbine
revolver. As my dad said, you can cook the game at the same time you shoot
it. Was like the 3rd loudest pistol at the time. 70's.

I knew a "500" S&W was good for something...
 

On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 12:18:10 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/26/15 12:03 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 11:09:33 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/26/15 11:07 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 05:22:58 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

I have shot one several times. Its angry. Especially at $3. A pull

That is why I say a guy with one, should be reloading. With revolvers,
recovering the brass is not even hard.


It's a buck and a half a shot with factory loads. What's you guess about
reloading, assuming you recycled the brass a few times and were buying
readymade bullets?

You will run into the same issue with bullets as Tim was referencing,
small production runs but a buck a pop would not surprise me for a
performance bullet. Cast bullets should be a lot cheaper., maybe 30-40
cents, way less if you cast your own.. Primers and powder are pennies
a shot.
These hand cannons remind me of the chopper (motorcycles) that were
popular in the 70s. When I questioned the tiny gas tank, the guy said
"if you go that far you will want to get off anyway".
I doubt anyone is going to shoot a lot of full power loads.

I looked a little and there are some "cowboy" loads that push out
subsonic cast bullets and should shoot fairly easy.

The full power load is at least 3-4 times the energy.


I pay about 30 cents a round for decent factory 158 grain .357 MAG
rounds, similar to what I pay for .223 rifle ammo. That seems enough to
spend on ammo to me. :)

The .500 S&W is not your regular plinker.
It is like comparing a Bugatti to a Camry

I knew a "500" S&W was good for something...
 

On 8/26/15 12:32 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 12:18:10 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/26/15 12:03 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 11:09:33 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/26/15 11:07 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 05:22:58 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

I have shot one several times. Its angry. Especially at $3. A pull

That is why I say a guy with one, should be reloading. With revolvers,
recovering the brass is not even hard.


It's a buck and a half a shot with factory loads. What's you guess about
reloading, assuming you recycled the brass a few times and were buying
readymade bullets?

You will run into the same issue with bullets as Tim was referencing,
small production runs but a buck a pop would not surprise me for a
performance bullet. Cast bullets should be a lot cheaper., maybe 30-40
cents, way less if you cast your own.. Primers and powder are pennies
a shot.
These hand cannons remind me of the chopper (motorcycles) that were
popular in the 70s. When I questioned the tiny gas tank, the guy said
"if you go that far you will want to get off anyway".
I doubt anyone is going to shoot a lot of full power loads.

I looked a little and there are some "cowboy" loads that push out
subsonic cast bullets and should shoot fairly easy.

The full power load is at least 3-4 times the energy.


I pay about 30 cents a round for decent factory 158 grain .357 MAG
rounds, similar to what I pay for .223 rifle ammo. That seems enough to
spend on ammo to me. :)

The .500 S&W is not your regular plinker.
It is like comparing a Bugatti to a Camry


Why would you want to "plink" with it, unless you are into hurting your
wrist/arm and annoying everyone around you?

I knew a "500" S&W was good for something...
 

On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 12:44:26 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/26/15 12:32 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 12:18:10 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/26/15 12:03 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 11:09:33 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/26/15 11:07 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 05:22:58 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

I have shot one several times. Its angry. Especially at $3. A pull

That is why I say a guy with one, should be reloading. With revolvers,
recovering the brass is not even hard.


It's a buck and a half a shot with factory loads. What's you guess about
reloading, assuming you recycled the brass a few times and were buying
readymade bullets?

You will run into the same issue with bullets as Tim was referencing,
small production runs but a buck a pop would not surprise me for a
performance bullet. Cast bullets should be a lot cheaper., maybe 30-40
cents, way less if you cast your own.. Primers and powder are pennies
a shot.
These hand cannons remind me of the chopper (motorcycles) that were
popular in the 70s. When I questioned the tiny gas tank, the guy said
"if you go that far you will want to get off anyway".
I doubt anyone is going to shoot a lot of full power loads.

I looked a little and there are some "cowboy" loads that push out
subsonic cast bullets and should shoot fairly easy.

The full power load is at least 3-4 times the energy.


I pay about 30 cents a round for decent factory 158 grain .357 MAG
rounds, similar to what I pay for .223 rifle ammo. That seems enough to
spend on ammo to me. :)

The .500 S&W is not your regular plinker.
It is like comparing a Bugatti to a Camry


Why would you want to "plink" with it, unless you are into hurting your
wrist/arm and annoying everyone around you?

I think that was what I said ;-)

If you shot the cowboy rounds out of it, you would save yourself a lot
of punishment.
I don't think a .357 is a plinker either, unless you are shooting .38
wad cutters out of it. That was the round I loaded most often. A 148gr
wc in front of about 2.5 gr of Bullseye was a very pleasant load to
shoot, very accurate and easy on the brass.
If I was loading a full power .357 round, the brass takes a beating,
along with the shooter. I was loading some stuff that was a bit hotter
than anything you could buy. I had a 125gr round nose half jacket that
was going 1725 FPS. That is smoking for a .357. It was not pleasant to
shoot tho and I threw the brass away.

I knew a "500" S&W was good for something...
 

On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 12:32:50 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 12:18:10 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/26/15 12:03 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 11:09:33 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/26/15 11:07 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 05:22:58 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

I have shot one several times. Its angry. Especially at $3. A pull

That is why I say a guy with one, should be reloading. With revolvers,
recovering the brass is not even hard.


It's a buck and a half a shot with factory loads. What's you guess about
reloading, assuming you recycled the brass a few times and were buying
readymade bullets?

You will run into the same issue with bullets as Tim was referencing,
small production runs but a buck a pop would not surprise me for a
performance bullet. Cast bullets should be a lot cheaper., maybe 30-40
cents, way less if you cast your own.. Primers and powder are pennies
a shot.
These hand cannons remind me of the chopper (motorcycles) that were
popular in the 70s. When I questioned the tiny gas tank, the guy said
"if you go that far you will want to get off anyway".
I doubt anyone is going to shoot a lot of full power loads.

I looked a little and there are some "cowboy" loads that push out
subsonic cast bullets and should shoot fairly easy.

The full power load is at least 3-4 times the energy.


I pay about 30 cents a round for decent factory 158 grain .357 MAG
rounds, similar to what I pay for .223 rifle ammo. That seems enough to
spend on ammo to me. :)

The .500 S&W is not your regular plinker.
It is like comparing a Bugatti to a Camry

Sounds like it would be a great gun for someone who is constantly seeking attention.
Gosh, it would be very photogenic, especially if the photo included lots of ammo.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

I knew a "500" S&W was good for something...
 

Greg, at those pressures it can often times swell the cylinders. A guy I know did that with a .44 mag and made it hotter. It swelled the cylinder bad enough he had to knock the spent shells out with hammer slightly tapping on a metal rod. Not the best idea

I knew a "500" S&W was good for something...
 

wrote:
On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 11:09:33 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/26/15 11:07 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 05:22:58 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

I have shot one several times. Its angry. Especially at $3. A pull

That is why I say a guy with one, should be reloading. With revolvers,
recovering the brass is not even hard.


It's a buck and a half a shot with factory loads. What's you guess about
reloading, assuming you recycled the brass a few times and were buying
readymade bullets?

You will run into the same issue with bullets as Tim was referencing,
small production runs but a buck a pop would not surprise me for a
performance bullet. Cast bullets should be a lot cheaper., maybe 30-40
cents, way less if you cast your own.. Primers and powder are pennies
a shot.
These hand cannons remind me of the chopper (motorcycles) that were
popular in the 70s. When I questioned the tiny gas tank, the guy said
"if you go that far you will want to get off anyway".
I doubt anyone is going to shoot a lot of full power loads.

I looked a little and there are some "cowboy" loads that push out
subsonic cast bullets and should shoot fairly easy.

The full power load is at least 3-4 times the energy.

If you are into pistols like these, you are probably in to reloading.
Developing loads, etc.

I knew a "500" S&W was good for something...
 

wrote:
On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 12:44:26 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/26/15 12:32 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 12:18:10 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/26/15 12:03 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 11:09:33 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/26/15 11:07 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 05:22:58 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

I have shot one several times. Its angry. Especially at $3. A pull

That is why I say a guy with one, should be reloading. With revolvers,
recovering the brass is not even hard.


It's a buck and a half a shot with factory loads. What's you guess about
reloading, assuming you recycled the brass a few times and were buying
readymade bullets?

You will run into the same issue with bullets as Tim was referencing,
small production runs but a buck a pop would not surprise me for a
performance bullet. Cast bullets should be a lot cheaper., maybe 30-40
cents, way less if you cast your own.. Primers and powder are pennies
a shot.
These hand cannons remind me of the chopper (motorcycles) that were
popular in the 70s. When I questioned the tiny gas tank, the guy said
"if you go that far you will want to get off anyway".
I doubt anyone is going to shoot a lot of full power loads.

I looked a little and there are some "cowboy" loads that push out
subsonic cast bullets and should shoot fairly easy.

The full power load is at least 3-4 times the energy.


I pay about 30 cents a round for decent factory 158 grain .357 MAG
rounds, similar to what I pay for .223 rifle ammo. That seems enough to
spend on ammo to me. :)

The .500 S&W is not your regular plinker.
It is like comparing a Bugatti to a Camry


Why would you want to "plink" with it, unless you are into hurting your
wrist/arm and annoying everyone around you?

I think that was what I said ;-)

If you shot the cowboy rounds out of it, you would save yourself a lot
of punishment.
I don't think a .357 is a plinker either, unless you are shooting .38
wad cutters out of it. That was the round I loaded most often. A 148gr
wc in front of about 2.5 gr of Bullseye was a very pleasant load to
shoot, very accurate and easy on the brass.
If I was loading a full power .357 round, the brass takes a beating,
along with the shooter. I was loading some stuff that was a bit hotter
than anything you could buy. I had a 125gr round nose half jacket that
was going 1725 FPS. That is smoking for a .357. It was not pleasant to
shoot tho and I threw the brass away.

I agree. I rarely fire 357 in the 357. Mostly 38's or reloaded 357 with
semi wad utters.