Califbill billnews wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 11:21:24 -0400, wrote:

Trying hard to wear out my 2nd pair of Crocs. I've been using them as
boat shoes and slippers for about 10 years.
Sometimes I'll even walk the dog in them.
A little loosy goosy for any distance walking but ok for what I use 'em for.

I just do not like the feel of plastic shoes and they seem a little
too loosey goosey. The ones I had may have been too big tho. It just
felt like a twisted ankle, waiting to happen.

===

Crocs are easy to slip on and off if you just need foot protection
briefly (like for walking across a hot deck or going across a gravel
road). They are also good for landing on the beach because if you get
sand caught in them you can rinse it out quickly. Of course they also
dry very fast because they absorb no moisture. They are my first
choice if I'm going to be in and out of the water a lot but not
walking very far.

I'll follow up tomorrow. Wife had PF, and the local football coach
recommended Clogs. I will get the brand from her. They helped a lot and
are easy to on and off. Do not know if a water model.

Dansco Clogs.

On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 14:25:01 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 00:33:09 -0400, wrote:

I injured a heel and my doctor said I have to get out of my boat
shoes. I am OK in my New Balance sneakers but I need something else.
(easy on and off, OK when wet)
He suggested crocs but I am not sure I can do it ;-)

I bought a pair from Zappos but I think they are going back. I feel
like I am walking around with plastic bags on my feet.

Still on a shoe hunt for something that works around water.

I like these very much:

http://www.llbean.com/llb/shop/40500...ort-h2-sandals

I looked at those. How do they deal with salt water and can you slip
them on without tying?

On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 22:30:09 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 14:25:01 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 00:33:09 -0400, wrote:

I injured a heel and my doctor said I have to get out of my boat
shoes. I am OK in my New Balance sneakers but I need something else.
(easy on and off, OK when wet)
He suggested crocs but I am not sure I can do it ;-)

I bought a pair from Zappos but I think they are going back. I feel
like I am walking around with plastic bags on my feet.

Still on a shoe hunt for something that works around water.

I like these very much:

http://www.llbean.com/llb/shop/40500...ort-h2-sandals

I looked at those. How do they deal with salt water and can you slip
them on without tying?

I've had them in fresh and salt and had no problems. There's no tying, but I have to
pull up the back with the little tab. I like 'em.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

wrote:
On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 13:32:40 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:


Sperry Top Siders were de rigueur for boating shoes many years back
but you can now get decent looking casual shoes with a Sperry like
non-skid sole. Racing sailors have mostly gone to Nike like athletic
shoes or Reef Runner type small boots. I still like top siders for
casual wear and age them into different categories. Top tier is
"dress topsiders" that I can wear almost anywhere. As they age and
get scuffed a little, they get downgraded to "boat topsiders". Bottom
of the barrel is engine room top siders after they get really beat up.

I have the same progression with my AOs.
I wear them everywhere unless I am hiking or something. Then in is a
New Balance shoe. I have some 608s on now. (basically a cross
trainer). They seem Ok for pretty strenuous hiking, riding on planes
or whatever, when you want more agility than you get with a boat shoe


Likely the 608 version 3 or 4. The original 608's were the best and
they refuse to bring them back. There are a lot of complaints on the NB
website discussion forum.

John H. wrote:
On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 00:33:09 -0400, wrote:

I injured a heel and my doctor said I have to get out of my boat
shoes. I am OK in my New Balance sneakers but I need something else.
(easy on and off, OK when wet)
He suggested crocs but I am not sure I can do it ;-)

I bought a pair from Zappos but I think they are going back. I feel
like I am walking around with plastic bags on my feet.

Still on a shoe hunt for something that works around water.
I like these very much:

http://www.llbean.com/llb/shop/40500...ort-h2-sandals
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


That's great, but what is your preferred bolt carrier group for an AR15?

On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 20:07:39 -0400, Alex wrote:

wrote:
On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 13:32:40 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:


Sperry Top Siders were de rigueur for boating shoes many years back
but you can now get decent looking casual shoes with a Sperry like
non-skid sole. Racing sailors have mostly gone to Nike like athletic
shoes or Reef Runner type small boots. I still like top siders for
casual wear and age them into different categories. Top tier is
"dress topsiders" that I can wear almost anywhere. As they age and
get scuffed a little, they get downgraded to "boat topsiders". Bottom
of the barrel is engine room top siders after they get really beat up.

I have the same progression with my AOs.
I wear them everywhere unless I am hiking or something. Then in is a
New Balance shoe. I have some 608s on now. (basically a cross
trainer). They seem Ok for pretty strenuous hiking, riding on planes
or whatever, when you want more agility than you get with a boat shoe


Likely the 608 version 3 or 4. The original 608's were the best and
they refuse to bring them back. There are a lot of complaints on the NB
website discussion forum.

These are probably the old style. I have had them for a long time.
I am wearing them in New Hampshire in 2008

http://gfretwell.com/electrical/new_...20howitzer.jpg

On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 20:50:01 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 20:07:39 -0400, Alex wrote:

wrote:
On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 13:32:40 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:


Sperry Top Siders were de rigueur for boating shoes many years back
but you can now get decent looking casual shoes with a Sperry like
non-skid sole. Racing sailors have mostly gone to Nike like athletic
shoes or Reef Runner type small boots. I still like top siders for
casual wear and age them into different categories. Top tier is
"dress topsiders" that I can wear almost anywhere. As they age and
get scuffed a little, they get downgraded to "boat topsiders". Bottom
of the barrel is engine room top siders after they get really beat up.

I have the same progression with my AOs.
I wear them everywhere unless I am hiking or something. Then in is a
New Balance shoe. I have some 608s on now. (basically a cross
trainer). They seem Ok for pretty strenuous hiking, riding on planes
or whatever, when you want more agility than you get with a boat shoe


Likely the 608 version 3 or 4. The original 608's were the best and
they refuse to bring them back. There are a lot of complaints on the NB
website discussion forum.

These are probably the old style. I have had them for a long time.
I am wearing them in New Hampshire in 2008

http://gfretwell.com/electrical/new_...20howitzer.jpg

Back to those from LLBean. The nice thing is that if you don't like them you can send
them back. A return label accompanies everything ordered from LLBean.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 05:37:20 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 20:50:01 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 20:07:39 -0400, Alex wrote:

wrote:
On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 13:32:40 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:


Sperry Top Siders were de rigueur for boating shoes many years back
but you can now get decent looking casual shoes with a Sperry like
non-skid sole. Racing sailors have mostly gone to Nike like athletic
shoes or Reef Runner type small boots. I still like top siders for
casual wear and age them into different categories. Top tier is
"dress topsiders" that I can wear almost anywhere. As they age and
get scuffed a little, they get downgraded to "boat topsiders". Bottom
of the barrel is engine room top siders after they get really beat up.

I have the same progression with my AOs.
I wear them everywhere unless I am hiking or something. Then in is a
New Balance shoe. I have some 608s on now. (basically a cross
trainer). They seem Ok for pretty strenuous hiking, riding on planes
or whatever, when you want more agility than you get with a boat shoe


Likely the 608 version 3 or 4. The original 608's were the best and
they refuse to bring them back. There are a lot of complaints on the NB
website discussion forum.

These are probably the old style. I have had them for a long time.
I am wearing them in New Hampshire in 2008

http://gfretwell.com/electrical/new_...20howitzer.jpg

Back to those from LLBean. The nice thing is that if you don't like them you can send
them back. A return label accompanies everything ordered from LLBean.

Zappos is the same way. I think that is how "online" may kill B&M
completely.
I know my wife usually tries 3 or 4 shoes for every one she buys.
UPS in USPS out. The mail lady just says "she didn't like those,
huh?"
I imagine the UPS guy thinks we need an addition on the house for all
the shoes.

OTOH I pick a shoe style and order them by item number for years.
When I was working it was Florsheim, side zipper boots and I knew the
number for black and brown. I just walked up to the counter and got
them for 25 years. I usually had a spare of each, new in the box in
the closet.
Right now I have a new pair of my AO Sperrys and when I open the box I
will order another pair.

On 8/25/15 11:51 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 05:37:20 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 20:50:01 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 20:07:39 -0400, Alex wrote:

wrote:
On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 13:32:40 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:


Sperry Top Siders were de rigueur for boating shoes many years back
but you can now get decent looking casual shoes with a Sperry like
non-skid sole. Racing sailors have mostly gone to Nike like athletic
shoes or Reef Runner type small boots. I still like top siders for
casual wear and age them into different categories. Top tier is
"dress topsiders" that I can wear almost anywhere. As they age and
get scuffed a little, they get downgraded to "boat topsiders". Bottom
of the barrel is engine room top siders after they get really beat up.

I have the same progression with my AOs.
I wear them everywhere unless I am hiking or something. Then in is a
New Balance shoe. I have some 608s on now. (basically a cross
trainer). They seem Ok for pretty strenuous hiking, riding on planes
or whatever, when you want more agility than you get with a boat shoe


Likely the 608 version 3 or 4. The original 608's were the best and
they refuse to bring them back. There are a lot of complaints on the NB
website discussion forum.

These are probably the old style. I have had them for a long time.
I am wearing them in New Hampshire in 2008

http://gfretwell.com/electrical/new_...20howitzer.jpg

Back to those from LLBean. The nice thing is that if you don't like them you can send
them back. A return label accompanies everything ordered from LLBean.

Zappos is the same way. I think that is how "online" may kill B&M
completely.
I know my wife usually tries 3 or 4 shoes for every one she buys.
UPS in USPS out. The mail lady just says "she didn't like those,
huh?"
I imagine the UPS guy thinks we need an addition on the house for all
the shoes.

OTOH I pick a shoe style and order them by item number for years.
When I was working it was Florsheim, side zipper boots and I knew the
number for black and brown. I just walked up to the counter and got
them for 25 years. I usually had a spare of each, new in the box in
the closet.
Right now I have a new pair of my AO Sperrys and when I open the box I
will order another pair.


I just got a pair of these:

http://tinyurl.com/pf8xdh3


Pretty comfy for my daily hikes...not expensive. Heel and sole support
seem pretty good. I was in a Sperry outlet store recently, and it didn't
have one pair of "wide" Sperry boat shoes in my perfectly normal size
11s. Amazing.

On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 11:55:57 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/25/15 11:51 AM, wrote:

Zappos is the same way. I think that is how "online" may kill B&M
completely.
I know my wife usually tries 3 or 4 shoes for every one she buys.
UPS in USPS out. The mail lady just says "she didn't like those,
huh?"
I imagine the UPS guy thinks we need an addition on the house for all
the shoes.

OTOH I pick a shoe style and order them by item number for years.
When I was working it was Florsheim, side zipper boots and I knew the
number for black and brown. I just walked up to the counter and got
them for 25 years. I usually had a spare of each, new in the box in
the closet.
Right now I have a new pair of my AO Sperrys and when I open the box I
will order another pair.


I just got a pair of these:

http://tinyurl.com/pf8xdh3


Pretty comfy for my daily hikes...not expensive. Heel and sole support
seem pretty good. I was in a Sperry outlet store recently, and it didn't
have one pair of "wide" Sperry boat shoes in my perfectly normal size
11s. Amazing.

They look pretty nice but I have always liked NB.

I am in a 12W so I usually have to buy online.
Nobody stocks much in that size but if I do find them in a B&M, they
are as likely to be on clearance as regular stock.