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Boating All Out August 14th 15 05:57 PM

ABC report
 
In article IJCdncIiL49BiFPInZ2dnUU7-
, says...


Just because classified information becomes known to the media and made
public doesn't change the laws and requirements to protect such
information from becoming public. *That* is the issue, not what you
think you heard on TV that may have been "secret".


It's just another red herring. There's been many.
Look, if HRC has done something criminal, she'll be
charged. That's how it works.
I've been waiting 20 ****ing years.

The part of "Morning Joe" that I caught this morning was when both Mika
and Scarborough were hammering Eugene Robinson, the liberal (and
respected) columnist for the Washington Post. He's a regular on the
program and is usually precise and well reasoned in his arguments.
Not today though. It was the first time I have seen him tongue-tied
trying to come up with ways to defend Clinton against Mika and
Scarborough's accusations.


Lol. Funny how we see things differently. How is
Gene going to argue with the 2 hosts who have already
made up their minds. He has a pretty constant gig on
that show.
What I saw was him looking at them and thinking,
"Well, these people are crazy. It doesn't matter what
I say. I'll hold my tongue and keep my gig."
Jesus, they won't stop harping on the same thing,
over and over and over again.
Pretty much like you're doing.
How do you tell people they are crazy?
Luddite..Luddite?


[email protected] August 14th 15 06:33 PM

ABC report
 
On 14 Aug 2015 13:44:25 GMT, Keyser Söze wrote:

"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
I was just reading this as reported by ABC news 2 days ago:

------------------

"The last batch of Hillary Clinton emails released by the State
Department included one from Clinton asking to borrow a book called
“Send: Why People Email So Badly and How to Do It Better,” by David
Shipley and Will Schwalbe.

Clinton has not said why she requested the book, but it includes some
advice that is particularly interesting in light of the controversy over
her unconventional email arrangement at the State Department and her
decision to delete tens of thousands of emails she deemed to be purely personal.

The copy that ABC downloaded for $9.99 had some interesting revelations.

Take, for example, Chapter Six: “The Email That Can Land You In Jail.”
The chapter includes a section entitled “How to Delete Something So It Stays Deleted.”

“Some people are hoarders, some are checkers,” the authors write. “The
main thing to consider is that once you do decide to delete, it’s like
taking the garbage from your kitchen and putting it in your hallway. It’s still there.”

The chapter advised that to truly delete emails may require a special
rewriting program “to make sure that it’s not just elsewhere on the drive
but has in fact been written over sixteen or twenty times and rendered undefinable.”

But Shipley and Schwalbe warn that deleting emails could lead to future legal troubles.

On page 215, the authors list “Stupid (and Real) Email Phrases That Wound
Up in Court.” Number one on the list? “DELETE THIS EMAIL!’ Later, on page
226, the writers warn, “If you’re issued a subpoena, your deletion binge
will only make you look guilty.”

----------------------

The ABC article also include an image of the email reply to Hillary from
Cheryl Mills (State staff member) This is the content:

-----------------

From: Mills, Cheryl D
Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2009 8:25 PM
To: H
Subject: May I borrow

Will bring tomorrow

--- Original Message ---

From: H
Sent: Tue Dec 01 19:17:57 2009
Subject: May I borrow

SEND by David Shipley?

------------------

and thus, the coverup began.


Too bad you had no interest in the 22 million emails Dubya dumped. Or the
emails your hero Jeb dumped.


Hey if it stops the Bush candidacy, it is OK with me.

I don't care if I ever hear Bush, Clinton or even Kennedy again.
We kicked out the British to get rid of royal families.

Mr. Luddite August 14th 15 06:40 PM

ABC report
 
On 8/14/2015 12:57 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article IJCdncIiL49BiFPInZ2dnUU7-
, says...


Just because classified information becomes known to the media and made
public doesn't change the laws and requirements to protect such
information from becoming public. *That* is the issue, not what you
think you heard on TV that may have been "secret".


It's just another red herring. There's been many.
Look, if HRC has done something criminal, she'll be
charged. That's how it works.
I've been waiting 20 ****ing years.

The part of "Morning Joe" that I caught this morning was when both Mika
and Scarborough were hammering Eugene Robinson, the liberal (and
respected) columnist for the Washington Post. He's a regular on the
program and is usually precise and well reasoned in his arguments.
Not today though. It was the first time I have seen him tongue-tied
trying to come up with ways to defend Clinton against Mika and
Scarborough's accusations.


Lol. Funny how we see things differently. How is
Gene going to argue with the 2 hosts who have already
made up their minds. He has a pretty constant gig on
that show.
What I saw was him looking at them and thinking,
"Well, these people are crazy. It doesn't matter what
I say. I'll hold my tongue and keep my gig."
Jesus, they won't stop harping on the same thing,
over and over and over again.
Pretty much like you're doing.
How do you tell people they are crazy?
Luddite..Luddite?



I don't think I am crazy ... at least not yet.
If I am, what difference does it make?

My purpose in harping about Hillary is two fold:

1. I got tired of a certain person here constantly posting to the
newsgroup with his anti-everything and everyone except Hillary
(who he seems to think is the second coming).
Over the past couple of years he has lost any sense of reasonable
discussion or debate and labels anyone who doesn't see things his
way as being crazies, republi-trash or whatever other derogatory
comment he can dream up. He is not rational in discussion anymore.
That combined with unsolicited posts about religious nut cases
that don't reflect most people's beliefs, his negative accusations
about people's military service ... recently adding
"murderous" to one of them (which may border on slander or libel)
and his constant and repetitious anti-American comments got to be a
waste of time reading everyday. So, he's keeping company with
slammer, the only other person in my Bozo Bin.

Combined, those make up reason number one.

(BTW, I also realize it's a game for him. I just got tired of
reading all his crap).

2. I think Hillary Clinton is a deceitful, lying and unqualified person
to be the Chief Executive of this country. If I can convince just
one person to not vote for her, the effort would be worthwhile. If
you notice I don't call her supporters (including Harry) "loonies",
"trash" or other derogatory names. I try to make a case for my
arguments and opinions.

Your mileage may vary of course. It's your right.



[email protected] August 14th 15 06:42 PM

ABC report
 
On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 11:00:50 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

22 million, that's million, emails dumped at the behest of Dubya and his
puppetmaster. 22 million. Seen any? How about the ones that said if they
fudged the intel on Iraq, they could start their shooting war.


Maybe I missed it Scooter but is GW in the race too?


Mr. Luddite August 14th 15 06:49 PM

ABC report
 
On 8/14/2015 1:42 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 11:00:50 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

22 million, that's million, emails dumped at the behest of Dubya and his
puppetmaster. 22 million. Seen any? How about the ones that said if they
fudged the intel on Iraq, they could start their shooting war.


Maybe I missed it Scooter but is GW in the race too?



"Scooter". LOL!

Boating All Out August 14th 15 07:06 PM

ABC report
 
In article 9MqdnfwcXbSztVPInZ2dnUU7-b-
, says...


2. I think Hillary Clinton is a deceitful, lying and unqualified person
to be the Chief Executive of this country. If I can convince just
one person to not vote for her, the effort would be worthwhile. If
you notice I don't call her supporters (including Harry) "loonies",
"trash" or other derogatory names. I try to make a case for my
arguments and opinions.

Your mileage may vary of course. It's your right.


You won't convince anybody. Maybe kids. Everybody
else has heard that same bull**** for 20 years.
They are immune. Sorry.
It always gets down to proposed policies.
The GOP has shot their feet off.
HRC is a woman.
Most likely that's the the end of the story.

Keyser Söze August 14th 15 07:26 PM

ABC report
 
On 8/14/15 1:40 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 8/14/2015 12:57 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article IJCdncIiL49BiFPInZ2dnUU7-
, says...


Just because classified information becomes known to the media and made
public doesn't change the laws and requirements to protect such
information from becoming public. *That* is the issue, not what you
think you heard on TV that may have been "secret".


It's just another red herring. There's been many.
Look, if HRC has done something criminal, she'll be
charged. That's how it works.
I've been waiting 20 ****ing years.

The part of "Morning Joe" that I caught this morning was when both Mika
and Scarborough were hammering Eugene Robinson, the liberal (and
respected) columnist for the Washington Post. He's a regular on the
program and is usually precise and well reasoned in his arguments.
Not today though. It was the first time I have seen him tongue-tied
trying to come up with ways to defend Clinton against Mika and
Scarborough's accusations.


Lol. Funny how we see things differently. How is
Gene going to argue with the 2 hosts who have already
made up their minds. He has a pretty constant gig on
that show.
What I saw was him looking at them and thinking,
"Well, these people are crazy. It doesn't matter what
I say. I'll hold my tongue and keep my gig."
Jesus, they won't stop harping on the same thing,
over and over and over again.
Pretty much like you're doing.
How do you tell people they are crazy?
Luddite..Luddite?



I don't think I am crazy ... at least not yet.
If I am, what difference does it make?

My purpose in harping about Hillary is two fold:

1. I got tired of a certain person here constantly posting to the
newsgroup with his anti-everything and everyone except Hillary
(who he seems to think is the second coming).
Over the past couple of years he has lost any sense of reasonable
discussion or debate and labels anyone who doesn't see things his
way as being crazies, republi-trash or whatever other derogatory
comment he can dream up. He is not rational in discussion anymore.
That combined with unsolicited posts about religious nut cases
that don't reflect most people's beliefs, his negative accusations
about people's military service ... recently adding
"murderous" to one of them (which may border on slander or libel)
and his constant and repetitious anti-American comments got to be a
waste of time reading everyday. So, he's keeping company with
slammer, the only other person in my Bozo Bin.

Combined, those make up reason number one.

(BTW, I also realize it's a game for him. I just got tired of
reading all his crap).

2. I think Hillary Clinton is a deceitful, lying and unqualified person
to be the Chief Executive of this country. If I can convince just
one person to not vote for her, the effort would be worthwhile. If
you notice I don't call her supporters (including Harry) "loonies",
"trash" or other derogatory names. I try to make a case for my
arguments and opinions.

Your mileage may vary of course. It's your right.



Awwww. And you want those you convince to vote for Dumb Jebbie...

Keyser Söze August 14th 15 07:29 PM

ABC report
 
On 8/14/15 2:06 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article 9MqdnfwcXbSztVPInZ2dnUU7-b-
, says...


2. I think Hillary Clinton is a deceitful, lying and unqualified person
to be the Chief Executive of this country. If I can convince just
one person to not vote for her, the effort would be worthwhile. If
you notice I don't call her supporters (including Harry) "loonies",
"trash" or other derogatory names. I try to make a case for my
arguments and opinions.

Your mileage may vary of course. It's your right.


You won't convince anybody. Maybe kids. Everybody
else has heard that same bull**** for 20 years.
They are immune. Sorry.
It always gets down to proposed policies.
The GOP has shot their feet off.
HRC is a woman.
Most likely that's the the end of the story.


What, you don't think GOP plans to make it tougher to get abortions, and
the attacks on womens' health care, immigrants, voting rights, the
affordable care act, social security, environmental protections, jobsite
protections, and its fondness for war is going to product a Republican
presidential victory in 2016? :)

Keyser Söze August 14th 15 07:30 PM

ABC report
 
On 8/14/15 1:42 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 11:00:50 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

22 million, that's million, emails dumped at the behest of Dubya and his
puppetmaster. 22 million. Seen any? How about the ones that said if they
fudged the intel on Iraq, they could start their shooting war.


Maybe I missed it Scooter but is GW in the race too?


He certainly is...the next POTUS will have to continue to clean up the
messes he left.

amdx[_3_] August 14th 15 11:04 PM

ABC report
 
On 8/14/2015 8:44 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
I was just reading this as reported by ABC news 2 days ago:

------------------

"The last batch of Hillary Clinton emails released by the State
Department included one from Clinton asking to borrow a book called
“Send: Why People Email So Badly and How to Do It Better,” by David
Shipley and Will Schwalbe.

Clinton has not said why she requested the book, but it includes some
advice that is particularly interesting in light of the controversy over
her unconventional email arrangement at the State Department and her
decision to delete tens of thousands of emails she deemed to be purely personal.

The copy that ABC downloaded for $9.99 had some interesting revelations.

Take, for example, Chapter Six: “The Email That Can Land You In Jail.”
The chapter includes a section entitled “How to Delete Something So It Stays Deleted.”

“Some people are hoarders, some are checkers,” the authors write. “The
main thing to consider is that once you do decide to delete, it’s like
taking the garbage from your kitchen and putting it in your hallway. It’s still there.”

The chapter advised that to truly delete emails may require a special
rewriting program “to make sure that it’s not just elsewhere on the drive
but has in fact been written over sixteen or twenty times and rendered undefinable.”

But Shipley and Schwalbe warn that deleting emails could lead to future legal troubles.

On page 215, the authors list “Stupid (and Real) Email Phrases That Wound
Up in Court.” Number one on the list? “DELETE THIS EMAIL!’ Later, on page
226, the writers warn, “If you’re issued a subpoena, your deletion binge
will only make you look guilty.”

----------------------

The ABC article also include an image of the email reply to Hillary from
Cheryl Mills (State staff member) This is the content:

-----------------

From: Mills, Cheryl D
Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2009 8:25 PM
To: H
Subject: May I borrow

Will bring tomorrow

--- Original Message ---

From: H
Sent: Tue Dec 01 19:17:57 2009
Subject: May I borrow

SEND by David Shipley?

------------------

and thus, the coverup began.


Too bad you had no interest in the 22 million emails Dubya dumped.


Did he really read 7,534 emails everyday he was in office?

Or the
emails your hero Jeb dumped.

What were they being investigated for when they did that?
Oh, nothing?
Kinda different to delete something the governments wants,
because the think you committed a crime.
Mikek


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