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I was just reading this as reported by ABC news 2 days ago:
------------------ "The last batch of Hillary Clinton emails released by the State Department included one from Clinton asking to borrow a book called “Send: Why People Email So Badly and How to Do It Better,” by David Shipley and Will Schwalbe. Clinton has not said why she requested the book, but it includes some advice that is particularly interesting in light of the controversy over her unconventional email arrangement at the State Department and her decision to delete tens of thousands of emails she deemed to be purely personal. The copy that ABC downloaded for $9.99 had some interesting revelations. Take, for example, Chapter Six: “The Email That Can Land You In Jail.” The chapter includes a section entitled “How to Delete Something So It Stays Deleted.” “Some people are hoarders, some are checkers,” the authors write. “The main thing to consider is that once you do decide to delete, it’s like taking the garbage from your kitchen and putting it in your hallway. It’s still there.” The chapter advised that to truly delete emails may require a special rewriting program “to make sure that it’s not just elsewhere on the drive but has in fact been written over sixteen or twenty times and rendered undefinable.” But Shipley and Schwalbe warn that deleting emails could lead to future legal troubles. On page 215, the authors list “Stupid (and Real) Email Phrases That Wound Up in Court.” Number one on the list? “DELETE THIS EMAIL!’ Later, on page 226, the writers warn, “If you’re issued a subpoena, your deletion binge will only make you look guilty.” ---------------------- The ABC article also include an image of the email reply to Hillary from Cheryl Mills (State staff member) This is the content: ----------------- From: Mills, Cheryl D Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2009 8:25 PM To: H Subject: May I borrow Will bring tomorrow --- Original Message --- From: H Sent: Tue Dec 01 19:17:57 2009 Subject: May I borrow SEND by David Shipley? ------------------ and thus, the coverup began. |
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"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
I was just reading this as reported by ABC news 2 days ago: ------------------ "The last batch of Hillary Clinton emails released by the State Department included one from Clinton asking to borrow a book called “Send: Why People Email So Badly and How to Do It Better,” by David Shipley and Will Schwalbe. Clinton has not said why she requested the book, but it includes some advice that is particularly interesting in light of the controversy over her unconventional email arrangement at the State Department and her decision to delete tens of thousands of emails she deemed to be purely personal. The copy that ABC downloaded for $9.99 had some interesting revelations. Take, for example, Chapter Six: “The Email That Can Land You In Jail.” The chapter includes a section entitled “How to Delete Something So It Stays Deleted.” “Some people are hoarders, some are checkers,” the authors write. “The main thing to consider is that once you do decide to delete, it’s like taking the garbage from your kitchen and putting it in your hallway. It’s still there.” The chapter advised that to truly delete emails may require a special rewriting program “to make sure that it’s not just elsewhere on the drive but has in fact been written over sixteen or twenty times and rendered undefinable.” But Shipley and Schwalbe warn that deleting emails could lead to future legal troubles. On page 215, the authors list “Stupid (and Real) Email Phrases That Wound Up in Court.” Number one on the list? “DELETE THIS EMAIL!’ Later, on page 226, the writers warn, “If you’re issued a subpoena, your deletion binge will only make you look guilty.” ---------------------- The ABC article also include an image of the email reply to Hillary from Cheryl Mills (State staff member) This is the content: ----------------- From: Mills, Cheryl D Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2009 8:25 PM To: H Subject: May I borrow Will bring tomorrow --- Original Message --- From: H Sent: Tue Dec 01 19:17:57 2009 Subject: May I borrow SEND by David Shipley? ------------------ and thus, the coverup began. Too bad you had no interest in the 22 million emails Dubya dumped. Or the emails your hero Jeb dumped. -- Sent from my iPhone 6+ |
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On 8/14/2015 10:25 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article nv-dnR4666AWc1DInZ2dnUU7- , says... I was just reading this as reported by ABC news 2 days ago: ------------------ "The last batch of Hillary Clinton emails released by the State Department included one from Clinton asking to borrow a book called ?Send: Why People Email So Badly and How to Do It Better,? by David Shipley and Will Schwalbe. When I was in the corporate world I went to a mandatory "writing" class that was very useful. They used a book which I think was called "Put it in Writing." That really improved my memo writing skills, and even bled into project documents. Email is easy. Stick to business. HRC of course mixed business with personal. ---------------------- The ABC article also include an image of the email reply to Hillary from Cheryl Mills (State staff member) This is the content: ----------------- From: Mills, Cheryl D Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2009 8:25 PM To: H Subject: May I borrow Will bring tomorrow --- Original Message --- From: H Sent: Tue Dec 01 19:17:57 2009 Subject: May I borrow SEND by David Shipley? ------------------ and thus, the coverup began. If that thumbdrive is really a backup of the server, which is entirely possible, they will uncover whatever was borrowed. What do you think it was, a nuke? I predict this will get ridiculously fantastical when the PERSONAL emails, like the one above, are leaked by the GOP. Like when GWB's "chemical weapons production facility" in Iraq was revealed to be a truck trailer boneyard. But have at it. Hard to stop insanity. Given the circumstances, the info contained on her personal server while she served as SOS is important. Equally important however is her unwillingness to cooperate with requests to deliver them to ensure there were no potential breaches that could affect national security or policy. I'll give you an example that may not be so obvious. There have been some references to imagery contained in some of the emails. The capabilities of some government US satellite imagery is classified. If her server contained such imagery, it must be considered to be compromised and thus the satellite capabilities. Again, the main issue isn't her poor judgement by not using a government secure server. I think that early on she acknowledged that in hindsight she probably should have used a government server for official government correspondence as SOS. It's her foot dragging, excuses, statements (some already proven to be false) that is the issue. The public respects and is owed honesty and she isn't being honest. With regard to your previous post, I apparently missed a lot of Mika's rant this morning. I was just reading about it though. Much of her criticism was related to Hillary's "arranged" public town hall meetings where attendees have been carefully selected ahead of time and are supporters of her nomination. |
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On 8/14/15 10:25 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article nv-dnR4666AWc1DInZ2dnUU7- , says... I was just reading this as reported by ABC news 2 days ago: ------------------ "The last batch of Hillary Clinton emails released by the State Department included one from Clinton asking to borrow a book called ?Send: Why People Email So Badly and How to Do It Better,? by David Shipley and Will Schwalbe. When I was in the corporate world I went to a mandatory "writing" class that was very useful. They used a book which I think was called "Put it in Writing." That really improved my memo writing skills, and even bled into project documents. Email is easy. Stick to business. HRC of course mixed business with personal. ---------------------- The ABC article also include an image of the email reply to Hillary from Cheryl Mills (State staff member) This is the content: ----------------- From: Mills, Cheryl D Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2009 8:25 PM To: H Subject: May I borrow Will bring tomorrow --- Original Message --- From: H Sent: Tue Dec 01 19:17:57 2009 Subject: May I borrow SEND by David Shipley? ------------------ and thus, the coverup began. If that thumbdrive is really a backup of the server, which is entirely possible, they will uncover whatever was borrowed. What do you think it was, a nuke? I predict this will get ridiculously fantastical when the PERSONAL emails, like the one above, are leaked by the GOP. Like when GWB's "chemical weapons production facility" in Iraq was revealed to be a truck trailer boneyard. But have at it. Hard to stop insanity. 22 million, that's million, emails dumped at the behest of Dubya and his puppetmaster. 22 million. Seen any? How about the ones that said if they fudged the intel on Iraq, they could start their shooting war. |
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says... On 8/14/15 10:25 AM, Boating All Out wrote: In article nv-dnR4666AWc1DInZ2dnUU7- , says... I was just reading this as reported by ABC news 2 days ago: ------------------ "The last batch of Hillary Clinton emails released by the State Department included one from Clinton asking to borrow a book called ?Send: Why People Email So Badly and How to Do It Better,? by David Shipley and Will Schwalbe. When I was in the corporate world I went to a mandatory "writing" class that was very useful. They used a book which I think was called "Put it in Writing." That really improved my memo writing skills, and even bled into project documents. Email is easy. Stick to business. HRC of course mixed business with personal. ---------------------- The ABC article also include an image of the email reply to Hillary from Cheryl Mills (State staff member) This is the content: ----------------- From: Mills, Cheryl D Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2009 8:25 PM To: H Subject: May I borrow Will bring tomorrow --- Original Message --- From: H Sent: Tue Dec 01 19:17:57 2009 Subject: May I borrow SEND by David Shipley? ------------------ and thus, the coverup began. If that thumbdrive is really a backup of the server, which is entirely possible, they will uncover whatever was borrowed. What do you think it was, a nuke? I predict this will get ridiculously fantastical when the PERSONAL emails, like the one above, are leaked by the GOP. Like when GWB's "chemical weapons production facility" in Iraq was revealed to be a truck trailer boneyard. But have at it. Hard to stop insanity. 22 million, that's million, emails dumped at the behest of Dubya and his puppetmaster. 22 million. Seen any? How about the ones that said if they fudged the intel on Iraq, they could start their shooting war. HRC. Clinton. Vast right wing conspiracy. Go figure. HRC is no different from any other pol. Maybe Bernie is the exception. But he's a "socialist." Oh, and Trump. The rest are the same. Connivers. I'm not talking "policy," which is being ignored. Could be this whole thing is a ploy by HRC to draw out the crazies. Whatever, she's made her bed. |
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In article ZtSdnXkNd6-ynFPInZ2dnUU7-
, says... Given the circumstances, the info contained on her personal server while she served as SOS is important. Equally important however is her unwillingness to cooperate with requests to deliver them to ensure there were no potential breaches that could affect national security or policy. I'll give you an example that may not be so obvious. There have been some references to imagery contained in some of the emails. The capabilities of some government US satellite imagery is classified. If her server contained such imagery, it must be considered to be compromised and thus the satellite capabilities. Again, the main issue isn't her poor judgement by not using a government secure server. I think that early on she acknowledged that in hindsight she probably should have used a government server for official government correspondence as SOS. It's her foot dragging, excuses, statements (some already proven to be false) that is the issue. The public respects and is owed honesty and she isn't being honest. With regard to your previous post, I apparently missed a lot of Mika's rant this morning. I was just reading about it though. Much of her criticism was related to Hillary's "arranged" public town hall meetings where attendees have been carefully selected ahead of time and are supporters of her nomination. Blah, blah. Within 2 hours I saw and heard an MSNBC and a CNN reporter tell how they saw a secret document revealing something they were reporting on. They were related to different matters, both military "national security." I have no doubt they were classified "secret," and that the reporters didn't have required clearance. They didn't bat an eye. Just shows "secret" ain't secret. As far as "satellite capabilities" that's likewise BS. And rumors to boot. Mika is plain crazy. She's become a target for jokes. |
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On 8/14/2015 11:32 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article , says... On 8/14/15 10:25 AM, Boating All Out wrote: In article nv-dnR4666AWc1DInZ2dnUU7- , says... I was just reading this as reported by ABC news 2 days ago: ------------------ "The last batch of Hillary Clinton emails released by the State Department included one from Clinton asking to borrow a book called ?Send: Why People Email So Badly and How to Do It Better,? by David Shipley and Will Schwalbe. When I was in the corporate world I went to a mandatory "writing" class that was very useful. They used a book which I think was called "Put it in Writing." That really improved my memo writing skills, and even bled into project documents. Email is easy. Stick to business. HRC of course mixed business with personal. ---------------------- The ABC article also include an image of the email reply to Hillary from Cheryl Mills (State staff member) This is the content: ----------------- From: Mills, Cheryl D Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2009 8:25 PM To: H Subject: May I borrow Will bring tomorrow --- Original Message --- From: H Sent: Tue Dec 01 19:17:57 2009 Subject: May I borrow SEND by David Shipley? ------------------ and thus, the coverup began. If that thumbdrive is really a backup of the server, which is entirely possible, they will uncover whatever was borrowed. What do you think it was, a nuke? I predict this will get ridiculously fantastical when the PERSONAL emails, like the one above, are leaked by the GOP. Like when GWB's "chemical weapons production facility" in Iraq was revealed to be a truck trailer boneyard. But have at it. Hard to stop insanity. 22 million, that's million, emails dumped at the behest of Dubya and his puppetmaster. 22 million. Seen any? How about the ones that said if they fudged the intel on Iraq, they could start their shooting war. HRC. Clinton. Vast right wing conspiracy. Go figure. HRC is no different from any other pol. Maybe Bernie is the exception. But he's a "socialist." Oh, and Trump. The rest are the same. Connivers. I'm not talking "policy," which is being ignored. Could be this whole thing is a ploy by HRC to draw out the crazies. Whatever, she's made her bed. The crazies were out and about long before Hillary made her candidacy official. No need to "draw" them out. I honestly believe that Trump was never serious about running at first. I think it was just another of his ego driven desires for media attention that he is prone to. I think the positive response to his "plain talk" has been as much of a surprise to him as it has to everyone else so now he has to go formulate some position statements to keep the interest alive. The Donald is an interesting Duck because if you can look beyond his style, ego and comments that are offensive to some, he's as much a Democratic liberal as he is a Republican conservative. It wil l be interesting to see how he defines his actual positions on issues, assuming he ever does. I've stated many times that I am not necessarily opposed to another Democrat in the White House. It just depends on who and what their ideas and positions are. I am not anti-Democrat. I am anti-Hillary and have been for a long time. She is not the politician that her husband was and is. When this election cycle began Hillary was the one and only Democratic candidate in the game and was considered to be the presumptive nominee before she even opened her mouth and said anything. That is starting to change. Others in her party are becoming aware of the cracks in her armor and are scrambling to develop backups. |
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On 8/14/2015 11:53 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ZtSdnXkNd6-ynFPInZ2dnUU7- , says... Given the circumstances, the info contained on her personal server while she served as SOS is important. Equally important however is her unwillingness to cooperate with requests to deliver them to ensure there were no potential breaches that could affect national security or policy. I'll give you an example that may not be so obvious. There have been some references to imagery contained in some of the emails. The capabilities of some government US satellite imagery is classified. If her server contained such imagery, it must be considered to be compromised and thus the satellite capabilities. Again, the main issue isn't her poor judgement by not using a government secure server. I think that early on she acknowledged that in hindsight she probably should have used a government server for official government correspondence as SOS. It's her foot dragging, excuses, statements (some already proven to be false) that is the issue. The public respects and is owed honesty and she isn't being honest. With regard to your previous post, I apparently missed a lot of Mika's rant this morning. I was just reading about it though. Much of her criticism was related to Hillary's "arranged" public town hall meetings where attendees have been carefully selected ahead of time and are supporters of her nomination. Blah, blah. Within 2 hours I saw and heard an MSNBC and a CNN reporter tell how they saw a secret document revealing something they were reporting on. They were related to different matters, both military "national security." I have no doubt they were classified "secret," and that the reporters didn't have required clearance. They didn't bat an eye. Just shows "secret" ain't secret. As far as "satellite capabilities" that's likewise BS. And rumors to boot. Mika is plain crazy. She's become a target for jokes. Just because classified information becomes known to the media and made public doesn't change the laws and requirements to protect such information from becoming public. *That* is the issue, not what you think you heard on TV that may have been "secret". The part of "Morning Joe" that I caught this morning was when both Mika and Scarborough were hammering Eugene Robinson, the liberal (and respected) columnist for the Washington Post. He's a regular on the program and is usually precise and well reasoned in his arguments. Not today though. It was the first time I have seen him tongue-tied trying to come up with ways to defend Clinton against Mika and Scarborough's accusations. |
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On 8/14/15 12:09 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 8/14/2015 11:32 AM, Boating All Out wrote: In article , says... On 8/14/15 10:25 AM, Boating All Out wrote: In article nv-dnR4666AWc1DInZ2dnUU7- , says... I was just reading this as reported by ABC news 2 days ago: ------------------ "The last batch of Hillary Clinton emails released by the State Department included one from Clinton asking to borrow a book called ?Send: Why People Email So Badly and How to Do It Better,? by David Shipley and Will Schwalbe. When I was in the corporate world I went to a mandatory "writing" class that was very useful. They used a book which I think was called "Put it in Writing." That really improved my memo writing skills, and even bled into project documents. Email is easy. Stick to business. HRC of course mixed business with personal. ---------------------- The ABC article also include an image of the email reply to Hillary from Cheryl Mills (State staff member) This is the content: ----------------- From: Mills, Cheryl D Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2009 8:25 PM To: H Subject: May I borrow Will bring tomorrow --- Original Message --- From: H Sent: Tue Dec 01 19:17:57 2009 Subject: May I borrow SEND by David Shipley? ------------------ and thus, the coverup began. If that thumbdrive is really a backup of the server, which is entirely possible, they will uncover whatever was borrowed. What do you think it was, a nuke? I predict this will get ridiculously fantastical when the PERSONAL emails, like the one above, are leaked by the GOP. Like when GWB's "chemical weapons production facility" in Iraq was revealed to be a truck trailer boneyard. But have at it. Hard to stop insanity. 22 million, that's million, emails dumped at the behest of Dubya and his puppetmaster. 22 million. Seen any? How about the ones that said if they fudged the intel on Iraq, they could start their shooting war. HRC. Clinton. Vast right wing conspiracy. Go figure. HRC is no different from any other pol. Maybe Bernie is the exception. But he's a "socialist." Oh, and Trump. The rest are the same. Connivers. I'm not talking "policy," which is being ignored. Could be this whole thing is a ploy by HRC to draw out the crazies. Whatever, she's made her bed. The crazies were out and about long before Hillary made her candidacy official. No need to "draw" them out. I honestly believe that Trump was never serious about running at first. I think it was just another of his ego driven desires for media attention that he is prone to. I think the positive response to his "plain talk" has been as much of a surprise to him as it has to everyone else so now he has to go formulate some position statements to keep the interest alive. The Donald is an interesting Duck because if you can look beyond his style, ego and comments that are offensive to some, he's as much a Democratic liberal as he is a Republican conservative. It wil l be interesting to see how he defines his actual positions on issues, assuming he ever does. I've stated many times that I am not necessarily opposed to another Democrat in the White House. It just depends on who and what their ideas and positions are. I am not anti-Democrat. I am anti-Hillary and have been for a long time. She is not the politician that her husband was and is. When this election cycle began Hillary was the one and only Democratic candidate in the game and was considered to be the presumptive nominee before she even opened her mouth and said anything. That is starting to change. Others in her party are becoming aware of the cracks in her armor and are scrambling to develop backups. So, which Republican are you going to vote for? Any Republican who gets the nomination. |
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In article IJCdncIiL49BiFPInZ2dnUU7-
, says... Just because classified information becomes known to the media and made public doesn't change the laws and requirements to protect such information from becoming public. *That* is the issue, not what you think you heard on TV that may have been "secret". It's just another red herring. There's been many. Look, if HRC has done something criminal, she'll be charged. That's how it works. I've been waiting 20 ****ing years. The part of "Morning Joe" that I caught this morning was when both Mika and Scarborough were hammering Eugene Robinson, the liberal (and respected) columnist for the Washington Post. He's a regular on the program and is usually precise and well reasoned in his arguments. Not today though. It was the first time I have seen him tongue-tied trying to come up with ways to defend Clinton against Mika and Scarborough's accusations. Lol. Funny how we see things differently. How is Gene going to argue with the 2 hosts who have already made up their minds. He has a pretty constant gig on that show. What I saw was him looking at them and thinking, "Well, these people are crazy. It doesn't matter what I say. I'll hold my tongue and keep my gig." Jesus, they won't stop harping on the same thing, over and over and over again. Pretty much like you're doing. How do you tell people they are crazy? Luddite..Luddite? |
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On 14 Aug 2015 13:44:25 GMT, Keyser Söze wrote:
"Mr. Luddite" wrote: I was just reading this as reported by ABC news 2 days ago: ------------------ "The last batch of Hillary Clinton emails released by the State Department included one from Clinton asking to borrow a book called “Send: Why People Email So Badly and How to Do It Better,” by David Shipley and Will Schwalbe. Clinton has not said why she requested the book, but it includes some advice that is particularly interesting in light of the controversy over her unconventional email arrangement at the State Department and her decision to delete tens of thousands of emails she deemed to be purely personal. The copy that ABC downloaded for $9.99 had some interesting revelations. Take, for example, Chapter Six: “The Email That Can Land You In Jail.” The chapter includes a section entitled “How to Delete Something So It Stays Deleted.” “Some people are hoarders, some are checkers,” the authors write. “The main thing to consider is that once you do decide to delete, it’s like taking the garbage from your kitchen and putting it in your hallway. It’s still there.” The chapter advised that to truly delete emails may require a special rewriting program “to make sure that it’s not just elsewhere on the drive but has in fact been written over sixteen or twenty times and rendered undefinable.” But Shipley and Schwalbe warn that deleting emails could lead to future legal troubles. On page 215, the authors list “Stupid (and Real) Email Phrases That Wound Up in Court.” Number one on the list? “DELETE THIS EMAIL!’ Later, on page 226, the writers warn, “If you’re issued a subpoena, your deletion binge will only make you look guilty.” ---------------------- The ABC article also include an image of the email reply to Hillary from Cheryl Mills (State staff member) This is the content: ----------------- From: Mills, Cheryl D Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2009 8:25 PM To: H Subject: May I borrow Will bring tomorrow --- Original Message --- From: H Sent: Tue Dec 01 19:17:57 2009 Subject: May I borrow SEND by David Shipley? ------------------ and thus, the coverup began. Too bad you had no interest in the 22 million emails Dubya dumped. Or the emails your hero Jeb dumped. Hey if it stops the Bush candidacy, it is OK with me. I don't care if I ever hear Bush, Clinton or even Kennedy again. We kicked out the British to get rid of royal families. |
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On 8/14/2015 12:57 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article IJCdncIiL49BiFPInZ2dnUU7- , says... Just because classified information becomes known to the media and made public doesn't change the laws and requirements to protect such information from becoming public. *That* is the issue, not what you think you heard on TV that may have been "secret". It's just another red herring. There's been many. Look, if HRC has done something criminal, she'll be charged. That's how it works. I've been waiting 20 ****ing years. The part of "Morning Joe" that I caught this morning was when both Mika and Scarborough were hammering Eugene Robinson, the liberal (and respected) columnist for the Washington Post. He's a regular on the program and is usually precise and well reasoned in his arguments. Not today though. It was the first time I have seen him tongue-tied trying to come up with ways to defend Clinton against Mika and Scarborough's accusations. Lol. Funny how we see things differently. How is Gene going to argue with the 2 hosts who have already made up their minds. He has a pretty constant gig on that show. What I saw was him looking at them and thinking, "Well, these people are crazy. It doesn't matter what I say. I'll hold my tongue and keep my gig." Jesus, they won't stop harping on the same thing, over and over and over again. Pretty much like you're doing. How do you tell people they are crazy? Luddite..Luddite? I don't think I am crazy ... at least not yet. If I am, what difference does it make? My purpose in harping about Hillary is two fold: 1. I got tired of a certain person here constantly posting to the newsgroup with his anti-everything and everyone except Hillary (who he seems to think is the second coming). Over the past couple of years he has lost any sense of reasonable discussion or debate and labels anyone who doesn't see things his way as being crazies, republi-trash or whatever other derogatory comment he can dream up. He is not rational in discussion anymore. That combined with unsolicited posts about religious nut cases that don't reflect most people's beliefs, his negative accusations about people's military service ... recently adding "murderous" to one of them (which may border on slander or libel) and his constant and repetitious anti-American comments got to be a waste of time reading everyday. So, he's keeping company with slammer, the only other person in my Bozo Bin. Combined, those make up reason number one. (BTW, I also realize it's a game for him. I just got tired of reading all his crap). 2. I think Hillary Clinton is a deceitful, lying and unqualified person to be the Chief Executive of this country. If I can convince just one person to not vote for her, the effort would be worthwhile. If you notice I don't call her supporters (including Harry) "loonies", "trash" or other derogatory names. I try to make a case for my arguments and opinions. Your mileage may vary of course. It's your right. |
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On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 11:00:50 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote: 22 million, that's million, emails dumped at the behest of Dubya and his puppetmaster. 22 million. Seen any? How about the ones that said if they fudged the intel on Iraq, they could start their shooting war. Maybe I missed it Scooter but is GW in the race too? |
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In article 9MqdnfwcXbSztVPInZ2dnUU7-b-
, says... 2. I think Hillary Clinton is a deceitful, lying and unqualified person to be the Chief Executive of this country. If I can convince just one person to not vote for her, the effort would be worthwhile. If you notice I don't call her supporters (including Harry) "loonies", "trash" or other derogatory names. I try to make a case for my arguments and opinions. Your mileage may vary of course. It's your right. You won't convince anybody. Maybe kids. Everybody else has heard that same bull**** for 20 years. They are immune. Sorry. It always gets down to proposed policies. The GOP has shot their feet off. HRC is a woman. Most likely that's the the end of the story. |
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On 8/14/15 1:40 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 8/14/2015 12:57 PM, Boating All Out wrote: In article IJCdncIiL49BiFPInZ2dnUU7- , says... Just because classified information becomes known to the media and made public doesn't change the laws and requirements to protect such information from becoming public. *That* is the issue, not what you think you heard on TV that may have been "secret". It's just another red herring. There's been many. Look, if HRC has done something criminal, she'll be charged. That's how it works. I've been waiting 20 ****ing years. The part of "Morning Joe" that I caught this morning was when both Mika and Scarborough were hammering Eugene Robinson, the liberal (and respected) columnist for the Washington Post. He's a regular on the program and is usually precise and well reasoned in his arguments. Not today though. It was the first time I have seen him tongue-tied trying to come up with ways to defend Clinton against Mika and Scarborough's accusations. Lol. Funny how we see things differently. How is Gene going to argue with the 2 hosts who have already made up their minds. He has a pretty constant gig on that show. What I saw was him looking at them and thinking, "Well, these people are crazy. It doesn't matter what I say. I'll hold my tongue and keep my gig." Jesus, they won't stop harping on the same thing, over and over and over again. Pretty much like you're doing. How do you tell people they are crazy? Luddite..Luddite? I don't think I am crazy ... at least not yet. If I am, what difference does it make? My purpose in harping about Hillary is two fold: 1. I got tired of a certain person here constantly posting to the newsgroup with his anti-everything and everyone except Hillary (who he seems to think is the second coming). Over the past couple of years he has lost any sense of reasonable discussion or debate and labels anyone who doesn't see things his way as being crazies, republi-trash or whatever other derogatory comment he can dream up. He is not rational in discussion anymore. That combined with unsolicited posts about religious nut cases that don't reflect most people's beliefs, his negative accusations about people's military service ... recently adding "murderous" to one of them (which may border on slander or libel) and his constant and repetitious anti-American comments got to be a waste of time reading everyday. So, he's keeping company with slammer, the only other person in my Bozo Bin. Combined, those make up reason number one. (BTW, I also realize it's a game for him. I just got tired of reading all his crap). 2. I think Hillary Clinton is a deceitful, lying and unqualified person to be the Chief Executive of this country. If I can convince just one person to not vote for her, the effort would be worthwhile. If you notice I don't call her supporters (including Harry) "loonies", "trash" or other derogatory names. I try to make a case for my arguments and opinions. Your mileage may vary of course. It's your right. Awwww. And you want those you convince to vote for Dumb Jebbie... |
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On 8/14/15 2:06 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article 9MqdnfwcXbSztVPInZ2dnUU7-b- , says... 2. I think Hillary Clinton is a deceitful, lying and unqualified person to be the Chief Executive of this country. If I can convince just one person to not vote for her, the effort would be worthwhile. If you notice I don't call her supporters (including Harry) "loonies", "trash" or other derogatory names. I try to make a case for my arguments and opinions. Your mileage may vary of course. It's your right. You won't convince anybody. Maybe kids. Everybody else has heard that same bull**** for 20 years. They are immune. Sorry. It always gets down to proposed policies. The GOP has shot their feet off. HRC is a woman. Most likely that's the the end of the story. What, you don't think GOP plans to make it tougher to get abortions, and the attacks on womens' health care, immigrants, voting rights, the affordable care act, social security, environmental protections, jobsite protections, and its fondness for war is going to product a Republican presidential victory in 2016? :) |
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On 8/14/2015 8:44 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
"Mr. Luddite" wrote: I was just reading this as reported by ABC news 2 days ago: ------------------ "The last batch of Hillary Clinton emails released by the State Department included one from Clinton asking to borrow a book called “Send: Why People Email So Badly and How to Do It Better,” by David Shipley and Will Schwalbe. Clinton has not said why she requested the book, but it includes some advice that is particularly interesting in light of the controversy over her unconventional email arrangement at the State Department and her decision to delete tens of thousands of emails she deemed to be purely personal. The copy that ABC downloaded for $9.99 had some interesting revelations. Take, for example, Chapter Six: “The Email That Can Land You In Jail.” The chapter includes a section entitled “How to Delete Something So It Stays Deleted.” “Some people are hoarders, some are checkers,” the authors write. “The main thing to consider is that once you do decide to delete, it’s like taking the garbage from your kitchen and putting it in your hallway. It’s still there.” The chapter advised that to truly delete emails may require a special rewriting program “to make sure that it’s not just elsewhere on the drive but has in fact been written over sixteen or twenty times and rendered undefinable.” But Shipley and Schwalbe warn that deleting emails could lead to future legal troubles. On page 215, the authors list “Stupid (and Real) Email Phrases That Wound Up in Court.” Number one on the list? “DELETE THIS EMAIL!’ Later, on page 226, the writers warn, “If you’re issued a subpoena, your deletion binge will only make you look guilty.” ---------------------- The ABC article also include an image of the email reply to Hillary from Cheryl Mills (State staff member) This is the content: ----------------- From: Mills, Cheryl D Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2009 8:25 PM To: H Subject: May I borrow Will bring tomorrow --- Original Message --- From: H Sent: Tue Dec 01 19:17:57 2009 Subject: May I borrow SEND by David Shipley? ------------------ and thus, the coverup began. Too bad you had no interest in the 22 million emails Dubya dumped. Did he really read 7,534 emails everyday he was in office? Or the emails your hero Jeb dumped. What were they being investigated for when they did that? Oh, nothing? Kinda different to delete something the governments wants, because the think you committed a crime. Mikek --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com |
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On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 13:06:21 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote: You won't convince anybody. Maybe kids. Everybody else has heard that same bull**** for 20 years. They are immune. Sorry. It took 22 years to get Nixon and in the end, it was not what he may or may not have done, it was trying to cover it up. Hillary is smarter tho. She knows that if Nixon had burned those tapes, he would have left office in 1977, probably seen as a persecuted hero. There will be no equivalent to "Hillary tapes". We keep talking like Hillary was just your average computer user. She could make a phone call and get the best software any ambassador might be running in a foreign consulate. I don't know why anyone thought there would be anything on that server. |
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On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 14:30:55 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote: On 8/14/15 1:42 PM, wrote: On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 11:00:50 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: 22 million, that's million, emails dumped at the behest of Dubya and his puppetmaster. 22 million. Seen any? How about the ones that said if they fudged the intel on Iraq, they could start their shooting war. Maybe I missed it Scooter but is GW in the race too? He certainly is...the next POTUS will have to continue to clean up the messes he left. What does that have to do with this election? Do you think you can vote GW out? If Iraq really determines who you want to vote for, it shouldn't be Hillary. |
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On 8/15/15 1:30 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 14:30:55 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 8/14/15 1:42 PM, wrote: On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 11:00:50 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: 22 million, that's million, emails dumped at the behest of Dubya and his puppetmaster. 22 million. Seen any? How about the ones that said if they fudged the intel on Iraq, they could start their shooting war. Maybe I missed it Scooter but is GW in the race too? He certainly is...the next POTUS will have to continue to clean up the messes he left. What does that have to do with this election? Do you think you can vote GW out? If Iraq really determines who you want to vote for, it shouldn't be Hillary. I don't believe Mrs. Clinton will fall for the sort of false intel the Bush admin put out earlier this century, nor do I believe she will engage in another absurd land war. And even a flawed Mrs. Clinton (and all pols are flawed) is head and shoulders above any of the jerks in the GOP nomination clown car in terms of integrity, ability, and experience, and she's not anti woman, anti minority, anti gay, anti student, anti poor, anti middle class. There will be many issues in the upcoming presidential election, and the GOPers are on the wrong side of all the serious ones. Further, as I have previously stated, I don't throw my vote away on third party candidates. I hope that is clear enough for you that you don't feel the need to advice me on who should or shouldn't get my vote. |
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On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 07:49:52 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote: On 8/15/15 1:30 AM, wrote: On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 14:30:55 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 8/14/15 1:42 PM, wrote: On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 11:00:50 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: 22 million, that's million, emails dumped at the behest of Dubya and his puppetmaster. 22 million. Seen any? How about the ones that said if they fudged the intel on Iraq, they could start their shooting war. Maybe I missed it Scooter but is GW in the race too? He certainly is...the next POTUS will have to continue to clean up the messes he left. What does that have to do with this election? Do you think you can vote GW out? If Iraq really determines who you want to vote for, it shouldn't be Hillary. I don't believe Mrs. Clinton will fall for the sort of false intel the Bush admin put out earlier this century, nor do I believe she will engage in another absurd land war. Not AGAIN huh? BTW it was her hubby's absurd air war that prompted 9-11. The muslims were demonstrating that we could be killed from the air too. And even a flawed Mrs. Clinton (and all pols are flawed) is head and shoulders above any of the jerks in the GOP nomination clown car in terms of integrity, ability, and experience, and she's not anti woman, anti minority, anti gay, anti student, anti poor, anti middle class. There will be many issues in the upcoming presidential election, and the GOPers are on the wrong side of all the serious ones. Further, as I have previously stated, I don't throw my vote away on third party candidates. Lincoln was a 3d party candidate and he won with less than 40% of the vote. BTW do you know the last 3d party candidate who actually won states? (not just accidental or protest EC votes) Silly **** happens. That is why you should be worried about silly people like Trump. |
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On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 07:49:52 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 8/15/15 1:30 AM, wrote: On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 14:30:55 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 8/14/15 1:42 PM, wrote: On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 11:00:50 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: 22 million, that's million, emails dumped at the behest of Dubya and his puppetmaster. 22 million. Seen any? How about the ones that said if they fudged the intel on Iraq, they could start their shooting war. Maybe I missed it Scooter but is GW in the race too? He certainly is...the next POTUS will have to continue to clean up the messes he left. What does that have to do with this election? Do you think you can vote GW out? If Iraq really determines who you want to vote for, it shouldn't be Hillary. I don't believe Mrs. Clinton will fall for the sort of false intel the Bush admin put out earlier this century, nor do I believe she will engage in another absurd land war. Not AGAIN huh? BTW it was her hubby's absurd air war that prompted 9-11. The muslims were demonstrating that we could be killed from the air too. And even a flawed Mrs. Clinton (and all pols are flawed) is head and shoulders above any of the jerks in the GOP nomination clown car in terms of integrity, ability, and experience, and she's not anti woman, anti minority, anti gay, anti student, anti poor, anti middle class. There will be many issues in the upcoming presidential election, and the GOPers are on the wrong side of all the serious ones. Further, as I have previously stated, I don't throw my vote away on third party candidates. Lincoln was a 3d party candidate and he won with less than 40% of the vote. BTW do you know the last 3d party candidate who actually won states? (not just accidental or protest EC votes) Silly **** happens. That is why you should be worried about silly people like Trump. I'll let you and the rest of the GOPers worry about Trump. -- Sent from my iPhone 6+ |
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On 15 Aug 2015 17:16:43 GMT, Keyser Söze wrote:
wrote: Lincoln was a 3d party candidate and he won with less than 40% of the vote. BTW do you know the last 3d party candidate who actually won states? (not just accidental or protest EC votes) Silly **** happens. That is why you should be worried about silly people like Trump. I'll let you and the rest of the GOPers worry about Trump. I worry about how many democrats might vote for him Someone with a vote in the low 40s might win or worse, toss it back to the house. |
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On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 14:30:55 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 8/14/15 1:42 PM, wrote: On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 11:00:50 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: 22 million, that's million, emails dumped at the behest of Dubya and his puppetmaster. 22 million. Seen any? How about the ones that said if they fudged the intel on Iraq, they could start their shooting war. Maybe I missed it Scooter but is GW in the race too? He certainly is...the next POTUS will have to continue to clean up the messes he left. What does that have to do with this election? Do you think you can vote GW out? If Iraq really determines who you want to vote for, it shouldn't be Hillary. Gene, Join the club and ignore this a-hole. It's working. |
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