On Wed, 22 Jul 2015 01:13:30 -0700, jps wrote:

On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 20:45:46 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 13:10:59 -0700, jps wrote:

On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 01:07:47 -0400, wrote:


Why is that? I don't mean he will die or even that the TV networks
will never hire him again. I just think that if he doesn't do
something to walk back this John McCain thing his presidential bid
will fail ... at least without significant democratic support.
That is still a possibility tho.

What part of Trump's message do you think Democrats would support?

I bet that anti immigrant message resounds with those rednecks up in
the rust belt who watched their UAW jobs go south. You folks assume
all democrats are latte sipping erudites, sitting around debating the
virtues of public transit but there are plenty of blue collar
democrats. Without them, you would not win many elections

Globalism has surely screwed the middle class, but given the choice
between big business Republicans and their uber wealthy constituents
and the Democrats who've always supported unions and the working
class, those guys will still vote Dem.

What ab out the big business Democrats and their uber (sic) wealthy constituents?
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On 7/20/2015 9:34 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jul 2015 16:21:12 -0700 (PDT), Tom Nofinger
wrote:

On Monday, July 20, 2015 at 2:42:22 PM UTC-7, jps wrote:
Why is this guy getting a pass from you war veterans?

He's a scumbag and a liar and doesn't deserve your tacit approval.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/m...isoner-of-war/

Why did you and Krause give Al Franken a pass?

When Senator McCain was running for the White House in 2000, comedian/author Al Franken made comments very similar to Trump's. This happened before Franken was selected to the U.S. Senate.

"I have tremendous respect for McCain but I don't buy the war hero thing," Franken said at the time. "Anybody can be captured. I thought the idea was to capture them. As far as I'm concerned he sat out the war."

Franken's thoughts were part of a post on Salon.com in January of 2000 in a story titled, "What's at Stake in the 2000 Elections?"

Fraken is a comedian and he made it clear it was a joke. Later McCain
and he did the joke again on a TV show.

I do believe this may be fatal for trump. He had the chance to recover
and he doubled down on the insult.
I am not sure he even understands what the hero part came from.
It wasn't being shot down or even the years in captivity. It was
turning down the chance to be released. McCain said if the rest can't
go, he wasn't going.



Trump's fatal flaw is his gigantic ego. He can't be wrong about
anything. Right now it's his blunder about McCain. In a week it
will be something else.

"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 7/20/2015 9:34 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jul 2015 16:21:12 -0700 (PDT), Tom Nofinger
wrote:

On Monday, July 20, 2015 at 2:42:22 PM UTC-7, jps wrote:
Why is this guy getting a pass from you war veterans?

He's a scumbag and a liar and doesn't deserve your tacit approval.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/m...isoner-of-war/

Why did you and Krause give Al Franken a pass?

When Senator McCain was running for the White House in 2000,
comedian/author Al Franken made comments very similar to Trump's. This
happened before Franken was selected to the U.S. Senate.

"I have tremendous respect for McCain but I don't buy the war hero
thing," Franken said at the time. "Anybody can be captured. I thought
the idea was to capture them. As far as I'm concerned he sat out the war."

Franken's thoughts were part of a post on Salon.com in January of 2000
in a story titled, "What's at Stake in the 2000 Elections?"

Fraken is a comedian and he made it clear it was a joke. Later McCain
and he did the joke again on a TV show.

I do believe this may be fatal for trump. He had the chance to recover
and he doubled down on the insult.
I am not sure he even understands what the hero part came from.
It wasn't being shot down or even the years in captivity. It was
turning down the chance to be released. McCain said if the rest can't
go, he wasn't going.



Trump's fatal flaw is his gigantic ego. He can't be wrong about
anything. Right now it's his blunder about McCain. In a week it
will be something else.

Hope he stays in as a repub or an Indy. 'Merica needs him.
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On Mon, 20 Jul 2015 21:53:01 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Trump's fatal flaw is his gigantic ego. He can't be wrong about
anything. Right now it's his blunder about McCain. In a week it
will be something else.

===

Absolutely right, a gigantic ego coupled with a thin skin and a
propensity to shoot from the hip. Not exactly presidential leadership
material in my opinion.

On Monday, July 20, 2015 at 6:34:42 PM UTC-7, wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jul 2015 16:21:12 -0700 (PDT), Tom Nofinger
wrote:

On Monday, July 20, 2015 at 2:42:22 PM UTC-7, jps wrote:
Why is this guy getting a pass from you war veterans?

He's a scumbag and a liar and doesn't deserve your tacit approval.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/m...isoner-of-war/

Why did you and Krause give Al Franken a pass?

When Senator McCain was running for the White House in 2000, comedian/author Al Franken made comments very similar to Trump's. This happened before Franken was selected to the U.S. Senate.

"I have tremendous respect for McCain but I don't buy the war hero thing," Franken said at the time. "Anybody can be captured. I thought the idea was to capture them. As far as I'm concerned he sat out the war."

Franken's thoughts were part of a post on Salon.com in January of 2000 in a story titled, "What's at Stake in the 2000 Elections?"

Fraken is a comedian and he made it clear it was a joke. Later McCain
and he did the joke again on a TV show.

I do believe this may be fatal for trump. He had the chance to recover
and he doubled down on the insult.
I am not sure he even understands what the hero part came from.
It wasn't being shot down or even the years in captivity. It was
turning down the chance to be released. McCain said if the rest can't
go, he wasn't going.

Oh,OK... so it's a "joke" when a liberal says the same thing that Trump did?
And, McCain thought it funny when Franken said it? So why is the exact same comment not funny now?

I believe Sen. McCain to be a war hero, so I don't like how either Franken or Trump phrased what they said. but, there is a clear double standard from Democrats, the media, and Senator McCain himself. Has Al Franken apologized to veterans in general, as John McCain has called on Trump to do?

And....so far, I've not heard any apology from Senator McCain for calling those 15,000 Trump supporters in Arizona "crazies".

On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 04:32:58 -0700 (PDT), Tom Nofinger wrote:

On Monday, July 20, 2015 at 6:34:42 PM UTC-7, wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jul 2015 16:21:12 -0700 (PDT), Tom Nofinger
wrote:

On Monday, July 20, 2015 at 2:42:22 PM UTC-7, jps wrote:
Why is this guy getting a pass from you war veterans?

He's a scumbag and a liar and doesn't deserve your tacit approval.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/m...isoner-of-war/

Why did you and Krause give Al Franken a pass?

When Senator McCain was running for the White House in 2000, comedian/author Al Franken made comments very similar to Trump's. This happened before Franken was selected to the U.S. Senate.

"I have tremendous respect for McCain but I don't buy the war hero thing," Franken said at the time. "Anybody can be captured. I thought the idea was to capture them. As far as I'm concerned he sat out the war."

Franken's thoughts were part of a post on Salon.com in January of 2000 in a story titled, "What's at Stake in the 2000 Elections?"

Fraken is a comedian and he made it clear it was a joke. Later McCain
and he did the joke again on a TV show.

I do believe this may be fatal for trump. He had the chance to recover
and he doubled down on the insult.
I am not sure he even understands what the hero part came from.
It wasn't being shot down or even the years in captivity. It was
turning down the chance to be released. McCain said if the rest can't
go, he wasn't going.

Oh,OK... so it's a "joke" when a liberal says the same thing that Trump did?
And, McCain thought it funny when Franken said it? So why is the exact same comment not funny now?

I believe Sen. McCain to be a war hero, so I don't like how either Franken or Trump phrased what they said. but, there is a clear double standard from Democrats, the media, and Senator McCain himself. Has Al Franken apologized to veterans in general, as John McCain has called on Trump to do?

And....so far, I've not heard any apology from Senator McCain for calling those 15,000 Trump supporters in Arizona "crazies".

Good questions. Liberals won't address them, however.
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On Mon, 20 Jul 2015 14:42:18 -0700, jps wrote:

Why is this guy getting a pass from you war veterans?

He's a scumbag and a liar and doesn't deserve your tacit approval.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/m...isoner-of-war/

Where've you been?

Your made up **** is as bad as Harry's.
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Guns don't cause problems.
Gun owner behavior causes problems.