When a student in Louisiana opens her textbook in biology class, she
might not have the standard Miller and Levine Biology with a dragonfly
on the cover, and she might not ever learn about evolution. For some
Louisiana *public school* students, their science textbook is the Bible,
and in biology class they read the Book of Genesis to learn the
“creation point of view.�

http://tinyurl.com/q75dhm4

Ah, Louisiana is raising its next generation of ignorant, stupid,
superstitious morons… The bible has no place in the public schools as a
source of factual material.

On 6/3/2015 6:51 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
a
source of fictional material.

Finally getting around to writing your autobiography?
--

Respectfully submitted by Justan

Laugh of the day from Krause

"I'm not to blame anymore for the atmosphere in here.
I've been "born again" as a nice guy."

On 6/3/2015 6:51 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
When a student in Louisiana opens her textbook in biology class, she
might not have the standard Miller and Levine Biology with a dragonfly
on the cover, and she might not ever learn about evolution. For some
Louisiana *public school* students, their science textbook is the Bible,
and in biology class they read the Book of Genesis to learn the
“creation point of view.�

http://tinyurl.com/q75dhm4

Ah, Louisiana is raising its next generation of ignorant, stupid,
superstitious morons… The bible has no place in the public schools as a
source of factual material.


Suggest you go read your own link again. They are not primarily
teaching creationism as "the" origin of life. They also teach the
concept of evolution.

Both are presented as theories and creationism is presented as an
argument against the theory of evolution. It's not singularly taught in
the biology class curriculum.

On 6/3/15 9:31 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 6/3/2015 6:51 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
When a student in Louisiana opens her textbook in biology class, she
might not have the standard Miller and Levine Biology with a dragonfly
on the cover, and she might not ever learn about evolution. For some
Louisiana *public school* students, their science textbook is the Bible,
and in biology class they read the Book of Genesis to learn the
“creation point of view.�

http://tinyurl.com/q75dhm4

Ah, Louisiana is raising its next generation of ignorant, stupid,
superstitious morons… The bible has no place in the public schools as a
source of factual material.


Suggest you go read your own link again. They are not primarily
teaching creationism as "the" origin of life. They also teach the
concept of evolution.

Both are presented as theories and creationism is presented as an
argument against the theory of evolution. It's not singularly taught in
the biology class curriculum.







The bible has no place in the public's schools as "an argument against
the theory of evolution. The ignorant simply do not understand what
"theory" means in the context of evolutionary theory.

Actually, the bible has no place in the public's K-12 schools, other
than a brief mention of it as the underpinning of several religions.

On 6/3/2015 9:40 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 6/3/15 9:31 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 6/3/2015 6:51 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
When a student in Louisiana opens her textbook in biology class, she
might not have the standard Miller and Levine Biology with a dragonfly
on the cover, and she might not ever learn about evolution. For some
Louisiana *public school* students, their science textbook is the Bible,
and in biology class they read the Book of Genesis to learn the
“creation point of view.�

http://tinyurl.com/q75dhm4

Ah, Louisiana is raising its next generation of ignorant, stupid,
superstitious morons… The bible has no place in the public schools as a
source of factual material.


Suggest you go read your own link again. They are not primarily
teaching creationism as "the" origin of life. They also teach the
concept of evolution.

Both are presented as theories and creationism is presented as an
argument against the theory of evolution. It's not singularly taught in
the biology class curriculum.







The bible has no place in the public's schools as "an argument against
the theory of evolution. The ignorant simply do not understand what
"theory" means in the context of evolutionary theory.

Actually, the bible has no place in the public's K-12 schools, other
than a brief mention of it as the underpinning of several religions.


Here's the problem as I see it. These kids are going to public school
and learning the "approved" course of evolution in their biology class.
This makes the federal government and people like yourself happy.

Then, particularly in the south, they learn about creationism at home or
in their Sunday School classes.

They are now confused. Which is the correct story?

Isn't it better to present both as theories that people can make their
own minds up about? Isn't that the purpose of general education?
Why does it have to be only one discussion?

On 6/3/15 10:25 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 6/3/2015 9:40 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 6/3/15 9:31 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 6/3/2015 6:51 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
When a student in Louisiana opens her textbook in biology class, she
might not have the standard Miller and Levine Biology with a dragonfly
on the cover, and she might not ever learn about evolution. For some
Louisiana *public school* students, their science textbook is the
Bible,
and in biology class they read the Book of Genesis to learn the
“creation point of view.�

http://tinyurl.com/q75dhm4

Ah, Louisiana is raising its next generation of ignorant, stupid,
superstitious morons… The bible has no place in the public schools
as a
source of factual material.


Suggest you go read your own link again. They are not primarily
teaching creationism as "the" origin of life. They also teach the
concept of evolution.

Both are presented as theories and creationism is presented as an
argument against the theory of evolution. It's not singularly taught in
the biology class curriculum.







The bible has no place in the public's schools as "an argument against
the theory of evolution. The ignorant simply do not understand what
"theory" means in the context of evolutionary theory.

Actually, the bible has no place in the public's K-12 schools, other
than a brief mention of it as the underpinning of several religions.


Here's the problem as I see it. These kids are going to public school
and learning the "approved" course of evolution in their biology class.
This makes the federal government and people like yourself happy.

Then, particularly in the south, they learn about creationism at home or
in their Sunday School classes.

They are now confused. Which is the correct story?

Isn't it better to present both as theories that people can make their
own minds up about? Isn't that the purpose of general education?
Why does it have to be only one discussion?



No. There is nothing but "faith" underpinning creationism. It is nothing
more than superstition.

It's the misunderstanding of the word "theory" in "theory of evolution"
that confuses people. It's not a theory in the commonly accepted meaning
of that word.

Evolution is a fact. Creationism is based upon non-factual, non-provable
religious belief.

The teaching of religious beliefs as "historical" or "factual" has no
place in the public schools.

On Wed, 03 Jun 2015 10:25:58 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 6/3/2015 9:40 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 6/3/15 9:31 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 6/3/2015 6:51 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
When a student in Louisiana opens her textbook in biology class, she
might not have the standard Miller and Levine Biology with a dragonfly
on the cover, and she might not ever learn about evolution. For some
Louisiana *public school* students, their science textbook is the Bible,
and in biology class they read the Book of Genesis to learn the
“creation point of view.”

http://tinyurl.com/q75dhm4

Ah, Louisiana is raising its next generation of ignorant, stupid,
superstitious morons… The bible has no place in the public schools as a
source of factual material.


Suggest you go read your own link again. They are not primarily
teaching creationism as "the" origin of life. They also teach the
concept of evolution.

Both are presented as theories and creationism is presented as an
argument against the theory of evolution. It's not singularly taught in
the biology class curriculum.







The bible has no place in the public's schools as "an argument against
the theory of evolution. The ignorant simply do not understand what
"theory" means in the context of evolutionary theory.

Actually, the bible has no place in the public's K-12 schools, other
than a brief mention of it as the underpinning of several religions.


Here's the problem as I see it. These kids are going to public school
and learning the "approved" course of evolution in their biology class.
This makes the federal government and people like yourself happy.

Then, particularly in the south, they learn about creationism at home or
in their Sunday School classes.

They are now confused. Which is the correct story?

Isn't it better to present both as theories that people can make their
own minds up about? Isn't that the purpose of general education?
Why does it have to be only one discussion?

One is a theory, supported by observable science. The other is a
collection of stories that have little if any basis in fact, assuming
facts require the support of evidence.

On 6/4/15 3:05 PM, jps wrote:
On Wed, 03 Jun 2015 10:25:58 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 6/3/2015 9:40 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 6/3/15 9:31 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 6/3/2015 6:51 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
When a student in Louisiana opens her textbook in biology class, she
might not have the standard Miller and Levine Biology with a dragonfly
on the cover, and she might not ever learn about evolution. For some
Louisiana *public school* students, their science textbook is the Bible,
and in biology class they read the Book of Genesis to learn the
“creation point of view.”

http://tinyurl.com/q75dhm4

Ah, Louisiana is raising its next generation of ignorant, stupid,
superstitious morons… The bible has no place in the public schools as a
source of factual material.


Suggest you go read your own link again. They are not primarily
teaching creationism as "the" origin of life. They also teach the
concept of evolution.

Both are presented as theories and creationism is presented as an
argument against the theory of evolution. It's not singularly taught in
the biology class curriculum.







The bible has no place in the public's schools as "an argument against
the theory of evolution. The ignorant simply do not understand what
"theory" means in the context of evolutionary theory.

Actually, the bible has no place in the public's K-12 schools, other
than a brief mention of it as the underpinning of several religions.


Here's the problem as I see it. These kids are going to public school
and learning the "approved" course of evolution in their biology class.
This makes the federal government and people like yourself happy.

Then, particularly in the south, they learn about creationism at home or
in their Sunday School classes.

They are now confused. Which is the correct story?

Isn't it better to present both as theories that people can make their
own minds up about? Isn't that the purpose of general education?
Why does it have to be only one discussion?

One is a theory, supported by observable science. The other is a
collection of stories that have little if any basis in fact, assuming
facts require the support of evidence.



Hard as it may be to believe, *I* had religious training when I was a
youngster, and read about and was *taught* many of the tales in the
bible, including that nonsense in Genesis about creation. I don't recall
more than two or three kids who accepted the bible as anything other
than a text in which belief in what it stated was based almost entirely
on faith.

I might have been 10 or 11 when I gave up entirely on belief in a
creator. One of the kids down the street was diagnosed with leukemia and
died in a couple of months, despite many efforts to save him. That was
my first sort of direct encounter with death, and when we kids talked
about it, several of us concluded there obviously was no god because if
there was, he/she/it wouldn't let innocent little kids die of horrific
diseases. In junior high and high school I was friends with a kid who
had contracted polio and while he survived, he was left with a limp and
a leg brace. Fortunately, he was a really smart kid in science and math
and there was no doubt he would "make it" in the world, but, again, I
wondered, why would god let a kid contract polio?

God is a construct of man. It isn't the other way around. The bible is a
nice book of mostly fictional stories written, edited, and compiled by
men and turned into beautiful English in the King James version. It's a
great read, for sure, but it isn't reality, history, or science.
It's fiction.

On 6/3/15 11:28 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 03 Jun 2015 10:25:58 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


Here's the problem as I see it. These kids are going to public school
and learning the "approved" course of evolution in their biology class.
This makes the federal government and people like yourself happy.

Then, particularly in the south, they learn about creationism at home or
in their Sunday School classes.

They are now confused. Which is the correct story?

Isn't it better to present both as theories that people can make their
own minds up about? Isn't that the purpose of general education?
Why does it have to be only one discussion?


There is plenty of political spin in the "approved" text books and
there are really only a couple of companies providing most of the K12
books.



Pushing religious beliefs in the public schools in unConstitutional.

On 6/3/15 11:50 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 03 Jun 2015 11:32:44 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 6/3/15 11:28 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 03 Jun 2015 10:25:58 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


Here's the problem as I see it. These kids are going to public school
and learning the "approved" course of evolution in their biology class.
This makes the federal government and people like yourself happy.

Then, particularly in the south, they learn about creationism at home or
in their Sunday School classes.

They are now confused. Which is the correct story?

Isn't it better to present both as theories that people can make their
own minds up about? Isn't that the purpose of general education?
Why does it have to be only one discussion?


There is plenty of political spin in the "approved" text books and
there are really only a couple of companies providing most of the K12
books.



Pushing religious beliefs in the public schools in unConstitutional.

Yet pushing political ideology is perfectly legal. What is wrong with
this picture?



Well, an awfully large percentage of textbooks are published by
conservatively based organizations in dum**** states like Texas, where
right-wing political influences are rampant. What is wrong with that
picture?

Once again, pushing religious beliefs in the public schools is unlawful.