....clean water?

Plains Pipeline, the large Texas-based company responsible for the pipe
that ruptured in Santa Barbara County, has accumulated 175 safety and
maintenance infractions since 2006, according to federal records.

A Times analysis of data from the Pipeline and Hazardous Materials
Safety Administration shows Plains' rate of incidents per mile of pipe
is more than three times the national average. Among more than 1,700
pipeline operators listed in a database maintained by the federal
agency, only four companies reported more infractions than Plains Pipeline.

The company, which transports and stores crude oil, is part of Plains
All American Pipeline, which owns and operates nearly 18,000 miles of
pipe networks in several states. It reported $43 billion in revenue in
2014 and $878 million in profit.

The company's infractions involved pump failure, equipment malfunction,
pipeline corrosion and operator error. None of the incidents resulted in
injuries. According to federal records, since 2006 the company's
incidents caused more than $23 million in property damage and spilled
more than 688,000 gallons of hazardous liquid.

A Plains Pipeline spokesman did not immediately respond to a request for
comment about its regulatory record.

The spill near Refugio State Beach occurred Tuesday on an 11-mile-long
pipeline that is part of a larger oil transport network centered in Kern
County. Authorities say the accident may have released as much as
105,000 gallons of crude oil.


The company said it inspected the pipeline's integrity two weeks ago.
But the results had not come back before the rupture, Darren Palmer,
Plains' district manager, said at a news conference.

Before that inspection, the last review of the line, which can pump up
to 6.3 million gallons of oil per day, was in 2012, according to the
company.

Workers manually shut down the pipeline Tuesday when they saw
"abnormalities" in the line, said company spokeswoman Karen M. Rugaard.
The leak was confirmed two hours later.

For mo


http://www.latimes.com/local/califor...521-story.html

Keyser Söze wrote:
...clean water?

Plains Pipeline, the large Texas-based company responsible for the pipe
that ruptured in Santa Barbara County, has accumulated 175 safety and
maintenance infractions since 2006, according to federal records.

A Times analysis of data from the Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety
Administration shows Plains' rate of incidents per mile of pipe is more
than three times the national average. Among more than 1,700 pipeline
operators listed in a database maintained by the federal agency, only
four companies reported more infractions than Plains Pipeline.

The company, which transports and stores crude oil, is part of Plains All
American Pipeline, which owns and operates nearly 18,000 miles of pipe
networks in several states. It reported $43 billion in revenue in 2014
and $878 million in profit.

The company's infractions involved pump failure, equipment malfunction,
pipeline corrosion and operator error. None of the incidents resulted in
injuries. According to federal records, since 2006 the company's
incidents caused more than $23 million in property damage and spilled
more than 688,000 gallons of hazardous liquid.

A Plains Pipeline spokesman did not immediately respond to a request for
comment about its regulatory record.

The spill near Refugio State Beach occurred Tuesday on an 11-mile-long
pipeline that is part of a larger oil transport network centered in Kern
County. Authorities say the accident may have released as much as 105,000
gallons of crude oil.


The company said it inspected the pipeline's integrity two weeks ago. But
the results had not come back before the rupture, Darren Palmer, Plains'
district manager, said at a news conference.

Before that inspection, the last review of the line, which can pump up to
6.3 million gallons of oil per day, was in 2012, according to the company.

Workers manually shut down the pipeline Tuesday when they saw
"abnormalities" in the line, said company spokeswoman Karen M. Rugaard.
The leak was confirmed two hours later.

For mo


http://www.latimes.com/local/califor...521-story.html

Pretty low profit margin. Maybe too much money going to union pipe
workers, who are not doing a good job. What would you do if you were
running the company?

On 5/21/15 2:35 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
...clean water?

Plains Pipeline, the large Texas-based company responsible for the pipe
that ruptured in Santa Barbara County, has accumulated 175 safety and
maintenance infractions since 2006, according to federal records.

A Times analysis of data from the Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety
Administration shows Plains' rate of incidents per mile of pipe is more
than three times the national average. Among more than 1,700 pipeline
operators listed in a database maintained by the federal agency, only
four companies reported more infractions than Plains Pipeline.

The company, which transports and stores crude oil, is part of Plains All
American Pipeline, which owns and operates nearly 18,000 miles of pipe
networks in several states. It reported $43 billion in revenue in 2014
and $878 million in profit.

The company's infractions involved pump failure, equipment malfunction,
pipeline corrosion and operator error. None of the incidents resulted in
injuries. According to federal records, since 2006 the company's
incidents caused more than $23 million in property damage and spilled
more than 688,000 gallons of hazardous liquid.

A Plains Pipeline spokesman did not immediately respond to a request for
comment about its regulatory record.

The spill near Refugio State Beach occurred Tuesday on an 11-mile-long
pipeline that is part of a larger oil transport network centered in Kern
County. Authorities say the accident may have released as much as 105,000
gallons of crude oil.


The company said it inspected the pipeline's integrity two weeks ago. But
the results had not come back before the rupture, Darren Palmer, Plains'
district manager, said at a news conference.

Before that inspection, the last review of the line, which can pump up to
6.3 million gallons of oil per day, was in 2012, according to the company.

Workers manually shut down the pipeline Tuesday when they saw
"abnormalities" in the line, said company spokeswoman Karen M. Rugaard.
The leak was confirmed two hours later.

For mo


http://www.latimes.com/local/califor...521-story.html

Pretty low profit margin. Maybe too much money going to union pipe
workers, who are not doing a good job. What would you do if you were
running the company?



Well, BillyBoy, we know polluting the environment is not an important
issue to people like you, but perhaps...

1. We can dismiss those "low profit margins" as just another example of
corporate book cooking.

2. We can insist, somehow, that the company's execs take fewer trips to
Cabo for "meetings."

3. We can impose and enforce stiffer penalties, including criminal
prosecution, for certain environmental disasters.

Here's a hint for you, BillyBoy: if the line workers are not doing their
jobs properly, it is completely and entirely the fault of management.

On 5/21/2015 4:18 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 5/21/15 2:35 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
...clean water?

Plains Pipeline, the large Texas-based company responsible for the pipe
that ruptured in Santa Barbara County, has accumulated 175 safety and
maintenance infractions since 2006, according to federal records.

A Times analysis of data from the Pipeline and Hazardous Materials
Safety
Administration shows Plains' rate of incidents per mile of pipe is more
than three times the national average. Among more than 1,700 pipeline
operators listed in a database maintained by the federal agency, only
four companies reported more infractions than Plains Pipeline.

The company, which transports and stores crude oil, is part of Plains
All
American Pipeline, which owns and operates nearly 18,000 miles of pipe
networks in several states. It reported $43 billion in revenue in 2014
and $878 million in profit.

The company's infractions involved pump failure, equipment malfunction,
pipeline corrosion and operator error. None of the incidents resulted in
injuries. According to federal records, since 2006 the company's
incidents caused more than $23 million in property damage and spilled
more than 688,000 gallons of hazardous liquid.

A Plains Pipeline spokesman did not immediately respond to a request for
comment about its regulatory record.

The spill near Refugio State Beach occurred Tuesday on an 11-mile-long
pipeline that is part of a larger oil transport network centered in Kern
County. Authorities say the accident may have released as much as
105,000
gallons of crude oil.


The company said it inspected the pipeline's integrity two weeks ago.
But
the results had not come back before the rupture, Darren Palmer, Plains'
district manager, said at a news conference.

Before that inspection, the last review of the line, which can pump
up to
6.3 million gallons of oil per day, was in 2012, according to the
company.

Workers manually shut down the pipeline Tuesday when they saw
"abnormalities" in the line, said company spokeswoman Karen M. Rugaard.
The leak was confirmed two hours later.

For mo


http://www.latimes.com/local/califor...521-story.html


Pretty low profit margin. Maybe too much money going to union pipe
workers, who are not doing a good job. What would you do if you were
running the company?



Well, BillyBoy, we know polluting the environment is not an important
issue to people like you, but perhaps...

1. We can dismiss those "low profit margins" as just another example of
corporate book cooking.

2. We can insist, somehow, that the company's execs take fewer trips to
Cabo for "meetings."

3. We can impose and enforce stiffer penalties, including criminal
prosecution, for certain environmental disasters.

Here's a hint for you, BillyBoy: if the line workers are not doing their
jobs properly, it is completely and entirely the fault of management.


Dumbness is what we've come to expect from you Harriot. And again you
didn't disappoint. ;-)

--

Respectfully submitted by Justan

Laugh of the day from Krause

"I'm not to blame anymore for the atmosphere in here.
I've been "born again" as a nice guy."

Keyser Söze wrote:
On 5/21/15 2:35 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
...clean water?

Plains Pipeline, the large Texas-based company responsible for the pipe
that ruptured in Santa Barbara County, has accumulated 175 safety and
maintenance infractions since 2006, according to federal records.

A Times analysis of data from the Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety
Administration shows Plains' rate of incidents per mile of pipe is more
than three times the national average. Among more than 1,700 pipeline
operators listed in a database maintained by the federal agency, only
four companies reported more infractions than Plains Pipeline.

The company, which transports and stores crude oil, is part of Plains All
American Pipeline, which owns and operates nearly 18,000 miles of pipe
networks in several states. It reported $43 billion in revenue in 2014
and $878 million in profit.

The company's infractions involved pump failure, equipment malfunction,
pipeline corrosion and operator error. None of the incidents resulted in
injuries. According to federal records, since 2006 the company's
incidents caused more than $23 million in property damage and spilled
more than 688,000 gallons of hazardous liquid.

A Plains Pipeline spokesman did not immediately respond to a request for
comment about its regulatory record.

The spill near Refugio State Beach occurred Tuesday on an 11-mile-long
pipeline that is part of a larger oil transport network centered in Kern
County. Authorities say the accident may have released as much as 105,000
gallons of crude oil.


The company said it inspected the pipeline's integrity two weeks ago. But
the results had not come back before the rupture, Darren Palmer, Plains'
district manager, said at a news conference.

Before that inspection, the last review of the line, which can pump up to
6.3 million gallons of oil per day, was in 2012, according to the company.

Workers manually shut down the pipeline Tuesday when they saw
"abnormalities" in the line, said company spokeswoman Karen M. Rugaard.
The leak was confirmed two hours later.

For mo


http://www.latimes.com/local/califor...521-story.html

Pretty low profit margin. Maybe too much money going to union pipe
workers, who are not doing a good job. What would you do if you were
running the company?



Well, BillyBoy, we know polluting the environment is not an important
issue to people like you, but perhaps...

1. We can dismiss those "low profit margins" as just another example of
corporate book cooking.

2. We can insist, somehow, that the company's execs take fewer trips to
Cabo for "meetings."

3. We can impose and enforce stiffer penalties, including criminal
prosecution, for certain environmental disasters.

Here's a hint for you, BillyBoy: if the line workers are not doing their
jobs properly, it is completely and entirely the fault of management.

Not if a union strikes if you try to fire someone'

On 5/21/15 5:42 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 5/21/15 2:35 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
...clean water?

Plains Pipeline, the large Texas-based company responsible for the pipe
that ruptured in Santa Barbara County, has accumulated 175 safety and
maintenance infractions since 2006, according to federal records.

A Times analysis of data from the Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety
Administration shows Plains' rate of incidents per mile of pipe is more
than three times the national average. Among more than 1,700 pipeline
operators listed in a database maintained by the federal agency, only
four companies reported more infractions than Plains Pipeline.

The company, which transports and stores crude oil, is part of Plains All
American Pipeline, which owns and operates nearly 18,000 miles of pipe
networks in several states. It reported $43 billion in revenue in 2014
and $878 million in profit.

The company's infractions involved pump failure, equipment malfunction,
pipeline corrosion and operator error. None of the incidents resulted in
injuries. According to federal records, since 2006 the company's
incidents caused more than $23 million in property damage and spilled
more than 688,000 gallons of hazardous liquid.

A Plains Pipeline spokesman did not immediately respond to a request for
comment about its regulatory record.

The spill near Refugio State Beach occurred Tuesday on an 11-mile-long
pipeline that is part of a larger oil transport network centered in Kern
County. Authorities say the accident may have released as much as 105,000
gallons of crude oil.


The company said it inspected the pipeline's integrity two weeks ago. But
the results had not come back before the rupture, Darren Palmer, Plains'
district manager, said at a news conference.

Before that inspection, the last review of the line, which can pump up to
6.3 million gallons of oil per day, was in 2012, according to the company.

Workers manually shut down the pipeline Tuesday when they saw
"abnormalities" in the line, said company spokeswoman Karen M. Rugaard.
The leak was confirmed two hours later.

For mo


http://www.latimes.com/local/califor...521-story.html

Pretty low profit margin. Maybe too much money going to union pipe
workers, who are not doing a good job. What would you do if you were
running the company?



Well, BillyBoy, we know polluting the environment is not an important
issue to people like you, but perhaps...

1. We can dismiss those "low profit margins" as just another example of
corporate book cooking.

2. We can insist, somehow, that the company's execs take fewer trips to
Cabo for "meetings."

3. We can impose and enforce stiffer penalties, including criminal
prosecution, for certain environmental disasters.

Here's a hint for you, BillyBoy: if the line workers are not doing their
jobs properly, it is completely and entirely the fault of management.

Not if a union strikes if you try to fire someone'



Nice try at distraction, but there is nothing in the news article that
indicates "worker dissatisfaction" is the root cause of the company in
question's mismanagement.

Further, I always smile at the attempts of you righties to denigrate
union workers, especially since not one of you have or ever had the
skill set to pass a journeyman's test in the skilled trades.

On Thu, 21 May 2015 18:18:39 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 5/21/15 5:42 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 5/21/15 2:35 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
...clean water?

Plains Pipeline, the large Texas-based company responsible for the pipe
that ruptured in Santa Barbara County, has accumulated 175 safety and
maintenance infractions since 2006, according to federal records.

A Times analysis of data from the Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety
Administration shows Plains' rate of incidents per mile of pipe is more
than three times the national average. Among more than 1,700 pipeline
operators listed in a database maintained by the federal agency, only
four companies reported more infractions than Plains Pipeline.

The company, which transports and stores crude oil, is part of Plains All
American Pipeline, which owns and operates nearly 18,000 miles of pipe
networks in several states. It reported $43 billion in revenue in 2014
and $878 million in profit.

The company's infractions involved pump failure, equipment malfunction,
pipeline corrosion and operator error. None of the incidents resulted in
injuries. According to federal records, since 2006 the company's
incidents caused more than $23 million in property damage and spilled
more than 688,000 gallons of hazardous liquid.

A Plains Pipeline spokesman did not immediately respond to a request for
comment about its regulatory record.

The spill near Refugio State Beach occurred Tuesday on an 11-mile-long
pipeline that is part of a larger oil transport network centered in Kern
County. Authorities say the accident may have released as much as 105,000
gallons of crude oil.


The company said it inspected the pipeline's integrity two weeks ago. But
the results had not come back before the rupture, Darren Palmer, Plains'
district manager, said at a news conference.

Before that inspection, the last review of the line, which can pump up to
6.3 million gallons of oil per day, was in 2012, according to the company.

Workers manually shut down the pipeline Tuesday when they saw
"abnormalities" in the line, said company spokeswoman Karen M. Rugaard.
The leak was confirmed two hours later.

For mo


http://www.latimes.com/local/califor...521-story.html

Pretty low profit margin. Maybe too much money going to union pipe
workers, who are not doing a good job. What would you do if you were
running the company?



Well, BillyBoy, we know polluting the environment is not an important
issue to people like you, but perhaps...

1. We can dismiss those "low profit margins" as just another example of
corporate book cooking.

2. We can insist, somehow, that the company's execs take fewer trips to
Cabo for "meetings."

3. We can impose and enforce stiffer penalties, including criminal
prosecution, for certain environmental disasters.

Here's a hint for you, BillyBoy: if the line workers are not doing their
jobs properly, it is completely and entirely the fault of management.

Not if a union strikes if you try to fire someone'



Nice try at distraction, but there is nothing in the news article that
indicates "worker dissatisfaction" is the root cause of the company in
question's mismanagement.

Further, I always smile at the attempts of you righties to denigrate
union workers, especially since not one of you have or ever had the
skill set to pass a journeyman's test in the skilled trades.

===

For what it's worth I was a full fledged member of the Communications
Workers of America at one time in my life (CWA).

You're correct that I've never been an apprentice in the brick layers
union however. How many bricks have you laid, and did you pass the
journeyman's test?

Keyser Söze wrote:
On 5/21/15 5:42 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 5/21/15 2:35 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
...clean water?

Plains Pipeline, the large Texas-based company responsible for the pipe
that ruptured in Santa Barbara County, has accumulated 175 safety and
maintenance infractions since 2006, according to federal records.

A Times analysis of data from the Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety
Administration shows Plains' rate of incidents per mile of pipe is more
than three times the national average. Among more than 1,700 pipeline
operators listed in a database maintained by the federal agency, only
four companies reported more infractions than Plains Pipeline.

The company, which transports and stores crude oil, is part of Plains All
American Pipeline, which owns and operates nearly 18,000 miles of pipe
networks in several states. It reported $43 billion in revenue in 2014
and $878 million in profit.

The company's infractions involved pump failure, equipment malfunction,
pipeline corrosion and operator error. None of the incidents resulted in
injuries. According to federal records, since 2006 the company's
incidents caused more than $23 million in property damage and spilled
more than 688,000 gallons of hazardous liquid.

A Plains Pipeline spokesman did not immediately respond to a request for
comment about its regulatory record.

The spill near Refugio State Beach occurred Tuesday on an 11-mile-long
pipeline that is part of a larger oil transport network centered in Kern
County. Authorities say the accident may have released as much as 105,000
gallons of crude oil.


The company said it inspected the pipeline's integrity two weeks ago. But
the results had not come back before the rupture, Darren Palmer, Plains'
district manager, said at a news conference.

Before that inspection, the last review of the line, which can pump up to
6.3 million gallons of oil per day, was in 2012, according to the company.

Workers manually shut down the pipeline Tuesday when they saw
"abnormalities" in the line, said company spokeswoman Karen M. Rugaard.
The leak was confirmed two hours later.

For mo


http://www.latimes.com/local/califor...521-story.html

Pretty low profit margin. Maybe too much money going to union pipe
workers, who are not doing a good job. What would you do if you were
running the company?



Well, BillyBoy, we know polluting the environment is not an important
issue to people like you, but perhaps...

1. We can dismiss those "low profit margins" as just another example of
corporate book cooking.

2. We can insist, somehow, that the company's execs take fewer trips to
Cabo for "meetings."

3. We can impose and enforce stiffer penalties, including criminal
prosecution, for certain environmental disasters.

Here's a hint for you, BillyBoy: if the line workers are not doing their
jobs properly, it is completely and entirely the fault of management.

Not if a union strikes if you try to fire someone'



Nice try at distraction, but there is nothing in the news article that
indicates "worker dissatisfaction" is the root cause of the company in
question's mismanagement.

Further, I always smile at the attempts of you righties to denigrate
union workers, especially since not one of you have or ever had the skill
set to pass a journeyman's test in the skilled trades.

Never said anything about dissatisfaction by the workers. Maybe
dissatisfaction by management of bad workers.

Harry, I guess I'm a "rightie Christian fundie" who holds a journeymans card. By all standards I am a journeyman bottle maker through GBBA local #71. I did go through the 2 year 4000 hr. Training program and qualified in good standing.

?:^ )

On Thu, 21 May 2015 18:18:39 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 5/21/15 5:42 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 5/21/15 2:35 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
...clean water?

Plains Pipeline, the large Texas-based company responsible for the pipe
that ruptured in Santa Barbara County, has accumulated 175 safety and
maintenance infractions since 2006, according to federal records.

A Times analysis of data from the Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety
Administration shows Plains' rate of incidents per mile of pipe is more
than three times the national average. Among more than 1,700 pipeline
operators listed in a database maintained by the federal agency, only
four companies reported more infractions than Plains Pipeline.

The company, which transports and stores crude oil, is part of Plains All
American Pipeline, which owns and operates nearly 18,000 miles of pipe
networks in several states. It reported $43 billion in revenue in 2014
and $878 million in profit.

The company's infractions involved pump failure, equipment malfunction,
pipeline corrosion and operator error. None of the incidents resulted in
injuries. According to federal records, since 2006 the company's
incidents caused more than $23 million in property damage and spilled
more than 688,000 gallons of hazardous liquid.

A Plains Pipeline spokesman did not immediately respond to a request for
comment about its regulatory record.

The spill near Refugio State Beach occurred Tuesday on an 11-mile-long
pipeline that is part of a larger oil transport network centered in Kern
County. Authorities say the accident may have released as much as 105,000
gallons of crude oil.


The company said it inspected the pipeline's integrity two weeks ago. But
the results had not come back before the rupture, Darren Palmer, Plains'
district manager, said at a news conference.

Before that inspection, the last review of the line, which can pump up to
6.3 million gallons of oil per day, was in 2012, according to the company.

Workers manually shut down the pipeline Tuesday when they saw
"abnormalities" in the line, said company spokeswoman Karen M. Rugaard.
The leak was confirmed two hours later.

For mo


http://www.latimes.com/local/califor...521-story.html

Pretty low profit margin. Maybe too much money going to union pipe
workers, who are not doing a good job. What would you do if you were
running the company?



Well, BillyBoy, we know polluting the environment is not an important
issue to people like you, but perhaps...

1. We can dismiss those "low profit margins" as just another example of
corporate book cooking.

2. We can insist, somehow, that the company's execs take fewer trips to
Cabo for "meetings."

3. We can impose and enforce stiffer penalties, including criminal
prosecution, for certain environmental disasters.

Here's a hint for you, BillyBoy: if the line workers are not doing their
jobs properly, it is completely and entirely the fault of management.

Not if a union strikes if you try to fire someone'



Nice try at distraction, but there is nothing in the news article that
indicates "worker dissatisfaction" is the root cause of the company in
question's mismanagement.

Further, I always smile at the attempts of you righties to denigrate
union workers, especially since not one of you have or ever had the
skill set to pass a journeyman's test in the skilled trades.

The NEA was courting me with all they had. I must have been well qualified. Of
course, I told them to shove it. Oh, the courting stopped when the 'steward' saw I
was talking new teachers out of joining.

Damn shame.
--

Guns don't cause problems.
Gun owner behavior causes problems.