Why would boaters care about...
 

On 5/21/15 7:58 PM, Califbill wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 21 May 2015 18:18:39 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 5/21/15 5:42 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 5/21/15 2:35 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
...clean water?

Plains Pipeline, the large Texas-based company responsible for the pipe
that ruptured in Santa Barbara County, has accumulated 175 safety and
maintenance infractions since 2006, according to federal records.

A Times analysis of data from the Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety
Administration shows Plains' rate of incidents per mile of pipe is more
than three times the national average. Among more than 1,700 pipeline
operators listed in a database maintained by the federal agency, only
four companies reported more infractions than Plains Pipeline.

The company, which transports and stores crude oil, is part of Plains All
American Pipeline, which owns and operates nearly 18,000 miles of pipe
networks in several states. It reported $43 billion in revenue in 2014
and $878 million in profit.

The company's infractions involved pump failure, equipment malfunction,
pipeline corrosion and operator error. None of the incidents resulted in
injuries. According to federal records, since 2006 the company's
incidents caused more than $23 million in property damage and spilled
more than 688,000 gallons of hazardous liquid.

A Plains Pipeline spokesman did not immediately respond to a request for
comment about its regulatory record.

The spill near Refugio State Beach occurred Tuesday on an 11-mile-long
pipeline that is part of a larger oil transport network centered in Kern
County. Authorities say the accident may have released as much as 105,000
gallons of crude oil.


The company said it inspected the pipeline's integrity two weeks ago. But
the results had not come back before the rupture, Darren Palmer, Plains'
district manager, said at a news conference.

Before that inspection, the last review of the line, which can pump up to
6.3 million gallons of oil per day, was in 2012, according to the company.

Workers manually shut down the pipeline Tuesday when they saw
"abnormalities" in the line, said company spokeswoman Karen M. Rugaard.
The leak was confirmed two hours later.

For mo


http://www.latimes.com/local/califor...521-story.html

Pretty low profit margin. Maybe too much money going to union pipe
workers, who are not doing a good job. What would you do if you were
running the company?



Well, BillyBoy, we know polluting the environment is not an important
issue to people like you, but perhaps...

1. We can dismiss those "low profit margins" as just another example of
corporate book cooking.

2. We can insist, somehow, that the company's execs take fewer trips to
Cabo for "meetings."

3. We can impose and enforce stiffer penalties, including criminal
prosecution, for certain environmental disasters.

Here's a hint for you, BillyBoy: if the line workers are not doing their
jobs properly, it is completely and entirely the fault of management.

Not if a union strikes if you try to fire someone'



Nice try at distraction, but there is nothing in the news article that
indicates "worker dissatisfaction" is the root cause of the company in
question's mismanagement.

Further, I always smile at the attempts of you righties to denigrate
union workers, especially since not one of you have or ever had the
skill set to pass a journeyman's test in the skilled trades.

===

For what it's worth I was a full fledged member of the Communications
Workers of America at one time in my life (CWA).

You're correct that I've never been an apprentice in the brick layers
union however. How many bricks have you laid, and did you pass the
journeyman's test?

I also belonged to the CWA in 1961. Only thing I got from them was a
deduction from my paycheck. Before I went to work for Western Electric
just out of high school the CWA had a strike against WE. 11 week strike
and settled for what was offered before the strike. And the workers needed
the union? What journeyman test did I need? No test needed. I at least
had to pass a state test for my EIT certification after finishing my
engineering degree.



Who does W'hine, who lives in my bozo bin with his buddy Slammer and
others, think was an apprentice or journeyman in the bricklayer's union?
It's a great union, but I was never an apprentice or journeyman
bricklayer, or a member of that union. W'hine must be smoking more of
that bankster weed.

My definition of "skilled trades" is the old, traditional union building
trades definition, and includes the various kinds of plumbers,
electricians, bricklayers, carpenters, ironworkers, sheet metal workers,
boilermakers, et cetera. Sort of a limiting definition, but the one I
learned. I passed my journeyman's exam in one of those trades.

So, you never passed a journeyman's exam, as I stated.

Why would boaters care about...
 

On Thu, 21 May 2015 20:13:02 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Who does W'hine, who lives in my bozo bin

===

Harry, being in your so called Bozo's Bin is a source of great pride
and honor with me.

I suspect you read every post however.

Why would boaters care about...
 

Harry, I guess I'm a "rightie Christian fundie" who holds a journeymans card. By all standards I am a journeyman bottle maker through GBBA local #71. I did go through the 2 year 4000 hr. Training program and qualified in good standing.

?:^ )

Why would boaters care about...
 

Keyser Söze wrote:
On 5/21/15 7:58 PM, Califbill wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 21 May 2015 18:18:39 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 5/21/15 5:42 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 5/21/15 2:35 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
...clean water?

Plains Pipeline, the large Texas-based company responsible for the pipe
that ruptured in Santa Barbara County, has accumulated 175 safety and
maintenance infractions since 2006, according to federal records.

A Times analysis of data from the Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety
Administration shows Plains' rate of incidents per mile of pipe is more
than three times the national average. Among more than 1,700 pipeline
operators listed in a database maintained by the federal agency, only
four companies reported more infractions than Plains Pipeline.

The company, which transports and stores crude oil, is part of Plains All
American Pipeline, which owns and operates nearly 18,000 miles of pipe
networks in several states. It reported $43 billion in revenue in 2014
and $878 million in profit.

The company's infractions involved pump failure, equipment malfunction,
pipeline corrosion and operator error. None of the incidents resulted in
injuries. According to federal records, since 2006 the company's
incidents caused more than $23 million in property damage and spilled
more than 688,000 gallons of hazardous liquid.

A Plains Pipeline spokesman did not immediately respond to a request for
comment about its regulatory record.

The spill near Refugio State Beach occurred Tuesday on an 11-mile-long
pipeline that is part of a larger oil transport network centered in Kern
County. Authorities say the accident may have released as much as 105,000
gallons of crude oil.


The company said it inspected the pipeline's integrity two weeks ago. But
the results had not come back before the rupture, Darren Palmer, Plains'
district manager, said at a news conference.

Before that inspection, the last review of the line, which can pump up to
6.3 million gallons of oil per day, was in 2012, according to the company.

Workers manually shut down the pipeline Tuesday when they saw
"abnormalities" in the line, said company spokeswoman Karen M. Rugaard.
The leak was confirmed two hours later.

For mo


http://www.latimes.com/local/califor...521-story.html

Pretty low profit margin. Maybe too much money going to union pipe
workers, who are not doing a good job. What would you do if you were
running the company?



Well, BillyBoy, we know polluting the environment is not an important
issue to people like you, but perhaps...

1. We can dismiss those "low profit margins" as just another example of
corporate book cooking.

2. We can insist, somehow, that the company's execs take fewer trips to
Cabo for "meetings."

3. We can impose and enforce stiffer penalties, including criminal
prosecution, for certain environmental disasters.

Here's a hint for you, BillyBoy: if the line workers are not doing their
jobs properly, it is completely and entirely the fault of management.

Not if a union strikes if you try to fire someone'



Nice try at distraction, but there is nothing in the news article that
indicates "worker dissatisfaction" is the root cause of the company in
question's mismanagement.

Further, I always smile at the attempts of you righties to denigrate
union workers, especially since not one of you have or ever had the
skill set to pass a journeyman's test in the skilled trades.

===

For what it's worth I was a full fledged member of the Communications
Workers of America at one time in my life (CWA).

You're correct that I've never been an apprentice in the brick layers
union however. How many bricks have you laid, and did you pass the
journeyman's test?

I also belonged to the CWA in 1961. Only thing I got from them was a
deduction from my paycheck. Before I went to work for Western Electric
just out of high school the CWA had a strike against WE. 11 week strike
and settled for what was offered before the strike. And the workers needed
the union? What journeyman test did I need? No test needed. I at least
had to pass a state test for my EIT certification after finishing my
engineering degree.



Who does W'hine, who lives in my bozo bin with his buddy Slammer and
others, think was an apprentice or journeyman in the bricklayer's union?
It's a great union, but I was never an apprentice or journeyman
bricklayer, or a member of that union. W'hine must be smoking more of that bankster weed.

My definition of "skilled trades" is the old, traditional union building
trades definition, and includes the various kinds of plumbers,
electricians, bricklayers, carpenters, ironworkers, sheet metal workers,
boilermakers, et cetera. Sort of a limiting definition, but the one I
learned. I passed my journeyman's exam in one of those trades.

So, you never passed a journeyman's exam, as I stated.

Nope. I passed the EIT test. A lot harder than your whatever journeyman
test. Must not be too hard, as you passed it.

Why would boaters care about...
 

Keyser Söze wrote:
On 5/21/15 7:58 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 5/21/15 5:42 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 5/21/15 2:35 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
...clean water?

Plains Pipeline, the large Texas-based company responsible for the pipe
that ruptured in Santa Barbara County, has accumulated 175 safety and
maintenance infractions since 2006, according to federal records.

A Times analysis of data from the Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety
Administration shows Plains' rate of incidents per mile of pipe is more
than three times the national average. Among more than 1,700 pipeline
operators listed in a database maintained by the federal agency, only
four companies reported more infractions than Plains Pipeline.

The company, which transports and stores crude oil, is part of Plains All
American Pipeline, which owns and operates nearly 18,000 miles of pipe
networks in several states. It reported $43 billion in revenue in 2014
and $878 million in profit.

The company's infractions involved pump failure, equipment malfunction,
pipeline corrosion and operator error. None of the incidents resulted in
injuries. According to federal records, since 2006 the company's
incidents caused more than $23 million in property damage and spilled
more than 688,000 gallons of hazardous liquid.

A Plains Pipeline spokesman did not immediately respond to a request for
comment about its regulatory record.

The spill near Refugio State Beach occurred Tuesday on an 11-mile-long
pipeline that is part of a larger oil transport network centered in Kern
County. Authorities say the accident may have released as much as 105,000
gallons of crude oil.


The company said it inspected the pipeline's integrity two weeks ago. But
the results had not come back before the rupture, Darren Palmer, Plains'
district manager, said at a news conference.

Before that inspection, the last review of the line, which can pump up to
6.3 million gallons of oil per day, was in 2012, according to the company.

Workers manually shut down the pipeline Tuesday when they saw
"abnormalities" in the line, said company spokeswoman Karen M. Rugaard.
The leak was confirmed two hours later.

For mo


http://www.latimes.com/local/califor...521-story.html

Pretty low profit margin. Maybe too much money going to union pipe
workers, who are not doing a good job. What would you do if you were
running the company?



Well, BillyBoy, we know polluting the environment is not an important
issue to people like you, but perhaps...

1. We can dismiss those "low profit margins" as just another example of
corporate book cooking.

2. We can insist, somehow, that the company's execs take fewer trips to
Cabo for "meetings."

3. We can impose and enforce stiffer penalties, including criminal
prosecution, for certain environmental disasters.

Here's a hint for you, BillyBoy: if the line workers are not doing their
jobs properly, it is completely and entirely the fault of management.

Not if a union strikes if you try to fire someone'



Nice try at distraction, but there is nothing in the news article that
indicates "worker dissatisfaction" is the root cause of the company in
question's mismanagement.

Further, I always smile at the attempts of you righties to denigrate
union workers, especially since not one of you have or ever had the skill
set to pass a journeyman's test in the skilled trades.

Never said anything about dissatisfaction by the workers. Maybe
dissatisfaction by management of bad workers.



Maybe your bias against unionized workers is just blinding you to
management failures at that company.

There most likely are management errors. But why are the union, and they
most definitely are union workers and the union step up and point out lack
of maintenance? I am biased against the union workers who are incompetent
and are kept employed by union coercion.

Why would boaters care about...
 

Tim wrote:
Harry, I guess I'm a "rightie Christian fundie" who holds a journeymans
card. By all standards I am a journeyman bottle maker through GBBA local
#71. I did go through the 2 year 4000 hr. Training program and qualified in good standing.

?:^ )

Sorry, never considered you one of the hate-filled righties who pollute
this newsgroup. One of my friends, now deceased, was a union bottle maker.

--
Sent from my iPhone 6+

Why would boaters care about...
 

Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 5/21/15 7:58 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 5/21/15 5:42 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 5/21/15 2:35 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
...clean water?

Plains Pipeline, the large Texas-based company responsible for the pipe
that ruptured in Santa Barbara County, has accumulated 175 safety and
maintenance infractions since 2006, according to federal records.

A Times analysis of data from the Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety
Administration shows Plains' rate of incidents per mile of pipe is more
than three times the national average. Among more than 1,700 pipeline
operators listed in a database maintained by the federal agency, only
four companies reported more infractions than Plains Pipeline.

The company, which transports and stores crude oil, is part of Plains All
American Pipeline, which owns and operates nearly 18,000 miles of pipe
networks in several states. It reported $43 billion in revenue in 2014
and $878 million in profit.

The company's infractions involved pump failure, equipment malfunction,
pipeline corrosion and operator error. None of the incidents resulted in
injuries. According to federal records, since 2006 the company's
incidents caused more than $23 million in property damage and spilled
more than 688,000 gallons of hazardous liquid.

A Plains Pipeline spokesman did not immediately respond to a request for
comment about its regulatory record.

The spill near Refugio State Beach occurred Tuesday on an 11-mile-long
pipeline that is part of a larger oil transport network centered in Kern
County. Authorities say the accident may have released as much as 105,000
gallons of crude oil.


The company said it inspected the pipeline's integrity two weeks ago. But
the results had not come back before the rupture, Darren Palmer, Plains'
district manager, said at a news conference.

Before that inspection, the last review of the line, which can pump up to
6.3 million gallons of oil per day, was in 2012, according to the company.

Workers manually shut down the pipeline Tuesday when they saw
"abnormalities" in the line, said company spokeswoman Karen M. Rugaard.
The leak was confirmed two hours later.

For mo


http://www.latimes.com/local/califor...521-story.html

Pretty low profit margin. Maybe too much money going to union pipe
workers, who are not doing a good job. What would you do if you were
running the company?



Well, BillyBoy, we know polluting the environment is not an important
issue to people like you, but perhaps...

1. We can dismiss those "low profit margins" as just another example of
corporate book cooking.

2. We can insist, somehow, that the company's execs take fewer trips to
Cabo for "meetings."

3. We can impose and enforce stiffer penalties, including criminal
prosecution, for certain environmental disasters.

Here's a hint for you, BillyBoy: if the line workers are not doing their
jobs properly, it is completely and entirely the fault of management.

Not if a union strikes if you try to fire someone'



Nice try at distraction, but there is nothing in the news article that
indicates "worker dissatisfaction" is the root cause of the company in
question's mismanagement.

Further, I always smile at the attempts of you righties to denigrate
union workers, especially since not one of you have or ever had the skill
set to pass a journeyman's test in the skilled trades.

Never said anything about dissatisfaction by the workers. Maybe
dissatisfaction by management of bad workers.



Maybe your bias against unionized workers is just blinding you to
management failures at that company.

There most likely are management errors. But why are the union, and they
most definitely are union workers and the union step up and point out lack
of maintenance? I am biased against the union workers who are incompetent
and are kept employed by union coercion.

You have no knowledge of what the workers there did or did not do in terms
of communicating to management.
--
Sent from my iPhone 6+

Why would boaters care about...
 

Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 5/21/15 7:58 PM, Califbill wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 21 May 2015 18:18:39 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 5/21/15 5:42 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 5/21/15 2:35 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
...clean water?

Plains Pipeline, the large Texas-based company responsible for the pipe
that ruptured in Santa Barbara County, has accumulated 175 safety and
maintenance infractions since 2006, according to federal records.

A Times analysis of data from the Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety
Administration shows Plains' rate of incidents per mile of pipe is more
than three times the national average. Among more than 1,700 pipeline
operators listed in a database maintained by the federal agency, only
four companies reported more infractions than Plains Pipeline.

The company, which transports and stores crude oil, is part of Plains All
American Pipeline, which owns and operates nearly 18,000 miles of pipe
networks in several states. It reported $43 billion in revenue in 2014
and $878 million in profit.

The company's infractions involved pump failure, equipment malfunction,
pipeline corrosion and operator error. None of the incidents resulted in
injuries. According to federal records, since 2006 the company's
incidents caused more than $23 million in property damage and spilled
more than 688,000 gallons of hazardous liquid.

A Plains Pipeline spokesman did not immediately respond to a request for
comment about its regulatory record.

The spill near Refugio State Beach occurred Tuesday on an 11-mile-long
pipeline that is part of a larger oil transport network centered in Kern
County. Authorities say the accident may have released as much as 105,000
gallons of crude oil.


The company said it inspected the pipeline's integrity two weeks ago. But
the results had not come back before the rupture, Darren Palmer, Plains'
district manager, said at a news conference.

Before that inspection, the last review of the line, which can pump up to
6.3 million gallons of oil per day, was in 2012, according to the company.

Workers manually shut down the pipeline Tuesday when they saw
"abnormalities" in the line, said company spokeswoman Karen M. Rugaard.
The leak was confirmed two hours later.

For mo


http://www.latimes.com/local/califor...521-story.html

Pretty low profit margin. Maybe too much money going to union pipe
workers, who are not doing a good job. What would you do if you were
running the company?



Well, BillyBoy, we know polluting the environment is not an important
issue to people like you, but perhaps...

1. We can dismiss those "low profit margins" as just another example of
corporate book cooking.

2. We can insist, somehow, that the company's execs take fewer trips to
Cabo for "meetings."

3. We can impose and enforce stiffer penalties, including criminal
prosecution, for certain environmental disasters.

Here's a hint for you, BillyBoy: if the line workers are not doing their
jobs properly, it is completely and entirely the fault of management.

Not if a union strikes if you try to fire someone'



Nice try at distraction, but there is nothing in the news article that
indicates "worker dissatisfaction" is the root cause of the company in
question's mismanagement.

Further, I always smile at the attempts of you righties to denigrate
union workers, especially since not one of you have or ever had the
skill set to pass a journeyman's test in the skilled trades.

===

For what it's worth I was a full fledged member of the Communications
Workers of America at one time in my life (CWA).

You're correct that I've never been an apprentice in the brick layers
union however. How many bricks have you laid, and did you pass the
journeyman's test?

I also belonged to the CWA in 1961. Only thing I got from them was a
deduction from my paycheck. Before I went to work for Western Electric
just out of high school the CWA had a strike against WE. 11 week strike
and settled for what was offered before the strike. And the workers needed
the union? What journeyman test did I need? No test needed. I at least
had to pass a state test for my EIT certification after finishing my
engineering degree.



Who does W'hine, who lives in my bozo bin with his buddy Slammer and
others, think was an apprentice or journeyman in the bricklayer's union?
It's a great union, but I was never an apprentice or journeyman
bricklayer, or a member of that union. W'hine must be smoking more of that bankster weed.

My definition of "skilled trades" is the old, traditional union building
trades definition, and includes the various kinds of plumbers,
electricians, bricklayers, carpenters, ironworkers, sheet metal workers,
boilermakers, et cetera. Sort of a limiting definition, but the one I
learned. I passed my journeyman's exam in one of those trades.

So, you never passed a journeyman's exam, as I stated.

Nope. I passed the EIT test. A lot harder than your whatever journeyman
test. Must not be too hard, as you passed it.

As I said you never passed a journeyman's exam in the skilled trades.
--
Sent from my iPhone 6+

Why would boaters care about...
 

Keyser Söze wrote:
Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 5/21/15 7:58 PM, Califbill wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 21 May 2015 18:18:39 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 5/21/15 5:42 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 5/21/15 2:35 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
...clean water?

Plains Pipeline, the large Texas-based company responsible for the pipe
that ruptured in Santa Barbara County, has accumulated 175 safety and
maintenance infractions since 2006, according to federal records.

A Times analysis of data from the Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety
Administration shows Plains' rate of incidents per mile of pipe is more
than three times the national average. Among more than 1,700 pipeline
operators listed in a database maintained by the federal agency, only
four companies reported more infractions than Plains Pipeline.

The company, which transports and stores crude oil, is part of Plains All
American Pipeline, which owns and operates nearly 18,000 miles of pipe
networks in several states. It reported $43 billion in revenue in 2014
and $878 million in profit.

The company's infractions involved pump failure, equipment malfunction,
pipeline corrosion and operator error. None of the incidents resulted in
injuries. According to federal records, since 2006 the company's
incidents caused more than $23 million in property damage and spilled
more than 688,000 gallons of hazardous liquid.

A Plains Pipeline spokesman did not immediately respond to a request for
comment about its regulatory record.

The spill near Refugio State Beach occurred Tuesday on an 11-mile-long
pipeline that is part of a larger oil transport network centered in Kern
County. Authorities say the accident may have released as much as 105,000
gallons of crude oil.


The company said it inspected the pipeline's integrity two weeks ago. But
the results had not come back before the rupture, Darren Palmer, Plains'
district manager, said at a news conference.

Before that inspection, the last review of the line, which can pump up to
6.3 million gallons of oil per day, was in 2012, according to the company.

Workers manually shut down the pipeline Tuesday when they saw
"abnormalities" in the line, said company spokeswoman Karen M. Rugaard.
The leak was confirmed two hours later.

For mo


http://www.latimes.com/local/califor...521-story.html

Pretty low profit margin. Maybe too much money going to union pipe
workers, who are not doing a good job. What would you do if you were
running the company?



Well, BillyBoy, we know polluting the environment is not an important
issue to people like you, but perhaps...

1. We can dismiss those "low profit margins" as just another example of
corporate book cooking.

2. We can insist, somehow, that the company's execs take fewer trips to
Cabo for "meetings."

3. We can impose and enforce stiffer penalties, including criminal
prosecution, for certain environmental disasters.

Here's a hint for you, BillyBoy: if the line workers are not doing their
jobs properly, it is completely and entirely the fault of management.

Not if a union strikes if you try to fire someone'



Nice try at distraction, but there is nothing in the news article that
indicates "worker dissatisfaction" is the root cause of the company in
question's mismanagement.

Further, I always smile at the attempts of you righties to denigrate
union workers, especially since not one of you have or ever had the
skill set to pass a journeyman's test in the skilled trades.

===

For what it's worth I was a full fledged member of the Communications
Workers of America at one time in my life (CWA).

You're correct that I've never been an apprentice in the brick layers
union however. How many bricks have you laid, and did you pass the
journeyman's test?

I also belonged to the CWA in 1961. Only thing I got from them was a
deduction from my paycheck. Before I went to work for Western Electric
just out of high school the CWA had a strike against WE. 11 week strike
and settled for what was offered before the strike. And the workers needed
the union? What journeyman test did I need? No test needed. I at least
had to pass a state test for my EIT certification after finishing my
engineering degree.



Who does W'hine, who lives in my bozo bin with his buddy Slammer and
others, think was an apprentice or journeyman in the bricklayer's union?
It's a great union, but I was never an apprentice or journeyman
bricklayer, or a member of that union. W'hine must be smoking more of that bankster weed.

My definition of "skilled trades" is the old, traditional union building
trades definition, and includes the various kinds of plumbers,
electricians, bricklayers, carpenters, ironworkers, sheet metal workers,
boilermakers, et cetera. Sort of a limiting definition, but the one I
learned. I passed my journeyman's exam in one of those trades.

So, you never passed a journeyman's exam, as I stated.

Nope. I passed the EIT test. A lot harder than your whatever journeyman
test. Must not be too hard, as you passed it.

As I said you never passed a journeyman's exam in the skilled trades.

Seeing your financial debacles passing s skilled trade exam did not seem to
help you.

Why would boaters care about...
 

Keyser Söze wrote:
Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 5/21/15 7:58 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 5/21/15 5:42 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 5/21/15 2:35 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
...clean water?

Plains Pipeline, the large Texas-based company responsible for the pipe
that ruptured in Santa Barbara County, has accumulated 175 safety and
maintenance infractions since 2006, according to federal records.

A Times analysis of data from the Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety
Administration shows Plains' rate of incidents per mile of pipe is more
than three times the national average. Among more than 1,700 pipeline
operators listed in a database maintained by the federal agency, only
four companies reported more infractions than Plains Pipeline.

The company, which transports and stores crude oil, is part of Plains All
American Pipeline, which owns and operates nearly 18,000 miles of pipe
networks in several states. It reported $43 billion in revenue in 2014
and $878 million in profit.

The company's infractions involved pump failure, equipment malfunction,
pipeline corrosion and operator error. None of the incidents resulted in
injuries. According to federal records, since 2006 the company's
incidents caused more than $23 million in property damage and spilled
more than 688,000 gallons of hazardous liquid.

A Plains Pipeline spokesman did not immediately respond to a request for
comment about its regulatory record.

The spill near Refugio State Beach occurred Tuesday on an 11-mile-long
pipeline that is part of a larger oil transport network centered in Kern
County. Authorities say the accident may have released as much as 105,000
gallons of crude oil.


The company said it inspected the pipeline's integrity two weeks ago. But
the results had not come back before the rupture, Darren Palmer, Plains'
district manager, said at a news conference.

Before that inspection, the last review of the line, which can pump up to
6.3 million gallons of oil per day, was in 2012, according to the company.

Workers manually shut down the pipeline Tuesday when they saw
"abnormalities" in the line, said company spokeswoman Karen M. Rugaard.
The leak was confirmed two hours later.

For mo


http://www.latimes.com/local/califor...521-story.html

Pretty low profit margin. Maybe too much money going to union pipe
workers, who are not doing a good job. What would you do if you were
running the company?



Well, BillyBoy, we know polluting the environment is not an important
issue to people like you, but perhaps...

1. We can dismiss those "low profit margins" as just another example of
corporate book cooking.

2. We can insist, somehow, that the company's execs take fewer trips to
Cabo for "meetings."

3. We can impose and enforce stiffer penalties, including criminal
prosecution, for certain environmental disasters.

Here's a hint for you, BillyBoy: if the line workers are not doing their
jobs properly, it is completely and entirely the fault of management.

Not if a union strikes if you try to fire someone'



Nice try at distraction, but there is nothing in the news article that
indicates "worker dissatisfaction" is the root cause of the company in
question's mismanagement.

Further, I always smile at the attempts of you righties to denigrate
union workers, especially since not one of you have or ever had the skill
set to pass a journeyman's test in the skilled trades.

Never said anything about dissatisfaction by the workers. Maybe
dissatisfaction by management of bad workers.



Maybe your bias against unionized workers is just blinding you to
management failures at that company.

There most likely are management errors. But why are the union, and they
most definitely are union workers and the union step up and point out lack
of maintenance? I am biased against the union workers who are incompetent
and are kept employed by union coercion.

You have no knowledge of what the workers there did or did not do in terms
of communicating to management.

Neither do you'