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Wayne.B March 20th 15 05:01 PM

Overarmed, Undertrained, and Racist.
 
On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 09:34:40 -0400, John H.
wrote:

I don't whine, asswipe. I simply point out the bad behavior of you and
your fellow conservatrashers.


TOAD, you're nothing but a whiner. A lying whiner to boot.


===

A lying deadbeat, tax cheat, fraud artist, double bankrupt whiner.

Justan Olphart March 20th 15 05:05 PM

Overarmed, Undertrained, and Racist.
 
On 3/20/2015 10:50 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 3/20/15 10:30 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/20/2015 10:16 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 3/20/15 10:06 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/20/2015 9:41 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 3/20/15 9:31 AM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 09:19:26 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 3/20/15 9:13 AM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 08:43:41 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 05:05:00 -0700 (PDT), Tim

wrote:

On Friday, March 20, 2015 at 4:40:28 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 3/20/15 7:27 AM, Tim wrote:


Ha! Pokin' at the bear again.


Yeah, I suppose it is *ok* with you righties that the police all
across
'Merica are beating up and sometimes killing *unarmed*
civilians.
But,
hey, why discuss it, eh? I mean, there are so many more
important
topics
to discuss: golf, RV'ing, model airplanes, how much diesel fuel
Wayne is
buying, et cetera.

--
Proud to be a Liberal.

Ha! Pokin' at the bear again.

===

It would be interesting to hear Harry's version of how cops are
supposed to handle unruly people who are resisting arrest.

Start by saying, "Can't we all just be friends?"


No surprise...Wayne is a fan of police beating up unarmed civilians,
too.

Answer his question, Mr. 'Rause. You think you have all the answers.
Or is this one
you'd choose to skip. A bit hard maybe, eh?


If a gang of cops can't restrain an unarmed civilian without beating
the
crap out of him, they need more training or a different job. That's
your
answer, asswipe.



Sounds to me like you have never had to restrain a belligerent, 20 year
old drunk while he's calling you a "****ing racist" over and over.

Cops are trained to gain control of a situation as rapidly as possible
to avoid injury to themselves, the person being arrested or to
bystanders. Sorry the kid got a bump on the head in the process.




My small wife was trained to restrain out of control mental health
patients, and to do it with the help of one or two other mental healh
professionals. She received this training at a large state mental
hospital in Florida, where many dangerous "forensic" patients are housed
and treated, people I suspect are far more dangerous than the average
unarmed kid you find outside a college drinking joint.




She's only had to do this twice in her career, thankfully. The cops use
excess force because their training is not sufficient, the violent ones
are not weeded out, and they know they can get away with it.



Sorry Harry. That's a bit too much to swallow. What does your wife
use, the Vulcan nerve pinch made famous by Mr. Spock?



I have no idea, but she and other workers did it twice, without injury
to anyone. I do recall that one of the patients was a really large woman
who had murdered someone, was judged insane, and managed to first slam a
heavy steel door on a worker, cutting off one of the worker's fingers.
Then my wife and two others restrained the woman, and got her under
control. Without hitting her.

It's always interesting to me that here on rec.boats those without any
particular experience in matters such as I've described think they are
experts. I'm confident that any two or three properly trained mental
health workers could restrain just about any unarmed person without
causing serious injury. You work in a forensic hospital, you get
training. Lots of training.


Does your wife bite? ;)

--

Respectfully submitted by Justan

Laugh of the day from Krause

"I'm not to blame anymore for the atmosphere in here.
I've been "born again" as a nice guy."



Keyser Söze March 20th 15 06:16 PM

Overarmed, Undertrained, and Racist.
 
On 3/20/15 1:38 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 12:41:30 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 12:24:30 -0400,
wrote:

On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 11:30:11 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 10:43:06 -0400,
wrote:

On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 06:37:58 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Colonel Klink's boys?


http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/...review-n326226

I am waiting to find out what really happened.

Here's the best video I've seen yet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=0faIzE0TSJA

We still have no actual story about what got the kid arrested in the
first place.

His lawyer says he was not drunk but I haven't seen any report of his
actual BAC and we do not know if other drugs are involved.

Wait and see what happened before we jump to any conclusions.

I trust this will be investigated like the Kennedy assassination and
it will all come out soon enough.
Until then, isn't there something more important we should be
obsessing about?

There is always Benghazi ;-)


Can you just imagine what a story this would have been had the kid been white?


The lefties here would be saying he got what he deserved for opposing
government authority.


If he were white, he probably wouldn't have been assaulted by the booze
cops.

--
Proud to be a Liberal.

Wayne.B March 20th 15 06:24 PM

Overarmed, Undertrained, and Racist.
 
On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 14:16:57 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

If he were white, he probably wouldn't have been assaulted by the booze
cops.


===

If he were white and behaving just as badly he would have been treated
the same way. You should try it for yourself and report back to us.

Mr. Luddite March 20th 15 06:46 PM

Overarmed, Undertrained, and Racist.
 
On 3/20/2015 2:16 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 3/20/15 1:38 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 12:41:30 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 12:24:30 -0400,
wrote:

On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 11:30:11 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 10:43:06 -0400,
wrote:

On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 06:37:58 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Colonel Klink's boys?


http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/...review-n326226


I am waiting to find out what really happened.

Here's the best video I've seen yet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=0faIzE0TSJA

We still have no actual story about what got the kid arrested in the
first place.

His lawyer says he was not drunk but I haven't seen any report of his
actual BAC and we do not know if other drugs are involved.

Wait and see what happened before we jump to any conclusions.

I trust this will be investigated like the Kennedy assassination and
it will all come out soon enough.
Until then, isn't there something more important we should be
obsessing about?

There is always Benghazi ;-)

Can you just imagine what a story this would have been had the kid
been white?


The lefties here would be saying he got what he deserved for opposing
government authority.



If he were white, he probably wouldn't have been assaulted by the booze
cops.


Funny stuff. Drunk whites are restrained by cops every day.
Just doesn't make the national news and generate protests.




Keyser Söze March 20th 15 06:50 PM

Overarmed, Undertrained, and Racist.
 
On 3/20/15 2:46 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/20/2015 2:16 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 3/20/15 1:38 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 12:41:30 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 12:24:30 -0400,
wrote:

On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 11:30:11 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 10:43:06 -0400,
wrote:

On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 06:37:58 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Colonel Klink's boys?


http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/...review-n326226



I am waiting to find out what really happened.

Here's the best video I've seen yet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=0faIzE0TSJA

We still have no actual story about what got the kid arrested in the
first place.

His lawyer says he was not drunk but I haven't seen any report of his
actual BAC and we do not know if other drugs are involved.

Wait and see what happened before we jump to any conclusions.

I trust this will be investigated like the Kennedy assassination and
it will all come out soon enough.
Until then, isn't there something more important we should be
obsessing about?

There is always Benghazi ;-)

Can you just imagine what a story this would have been had the kid
been white?

The lefties here would be saying he got what he deserved for opposing
government authority.



If he were white, he probably wouldn't have been assaulted by the booze
cops.


Funny stuff. Drunk whites are restrained by cops every day.
Just doesn't make the national news and generate protests.




We're not talking about restraining...we're talking about a gang of thug
cops beating up a college kid.

--
Proud to be a Liberal.

Mr. Luddite March 20th 15 06:55 PM

Overarmed, Undertrained, and Racist.
 
On 3/20/2015 2:50 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 3/20/15 2:46 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/20/2015 2:16 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 3/20/15 1:38 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 12:41:30 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 12:24:30 -0400,
wrote:

On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 11:30:11 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 10:43:06 -0400,
wrote:

On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 06:37:58 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Colonel Klink's boys?


http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/...review-n326226




I am waiting to find out what really happened.

Here's the best video I've seen yet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=0faIzE0TSJA

We still have no actual story about what got the kid arrested in the
first place.

His lawyer says he was not drunk but I haven't seen any report of his
actual BAC and we do not know if other drugs are involved.

Wait and see what happened before we jump to any conclusions.

I trust this will be investigated like the Kennedy assassination and
it will all come out soon enough.
Until then, isn't there something more important we should be
obsessing about?

There is always Benghazi ;-)

Can you just imagine what a story this would have been had the kid
been white?

The lefties here would be saying he got what he deserved for opposing
government authority.



If he were white, he probably wouldn't have been assaulted by the booze
cops.


Funny stuff. Drunk whites are restrained by cops every day.
Just doesn't make the national news and generate protests.




We're not talking about restraining...we're talking about a gang of thug
cops beating up a college kid.



Sorry. I left out the adjective, "forcibly" before "restraining".
There's no evidence anyone was "beat up" in this instance.



Wayne.B March 20th 15 09:49 PM

Overarmed, Undertrained, and Racist.
 
On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 14:50:52 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

We're not talking about restraining...we're talking about a gang of thug
cops beating up a college kid.


===

That's nonsense and you know it.

John H.[_5_] March 20th 15 10:14 PM

Overarmed, Undertrained, and Racist.
 
On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 17:49:21 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 14:50:52 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

We're not talking about restraining...we're talking about a gang of thug
cops beating up a college kid.


===

That's nonsense and you know it.


Not according to these folks:

"His treatment was unprovoked as he did not resist questioning or arrest. In
confusion, with blood painting his face and creating a pool on the bricks of the
corner, he yelled out for mercy. Though he lay bleeding and crying out, officers
continued to hold him to the pavement, pinning him down, twisting his arm, with knees
to his back until he was handcuffed."

http://www.theroot.com/articles/news..._officers.html

He wasn't calling anyone a '****ing racist', he was simply asking for mercy.

--

Guns don't cause problems.
The behavior of the owner causes problems.

John H.[_5_] March 21st 15 11:43 AM

Overarmed, Undertrained, and Racist.
 
On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 21:37:36 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 18:14:49 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 17:49:21 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 14:50:52 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

We're not talking about restraining...we're talking about a gang of thug
cops beating up a college kid.

===

That's nonsense and you know it.


Not according to these folks:

"His treatment was unprovoked as he did not resist questioning or arrest. In
confusion, with blood painting his face and creating a pool on the bricks of the
corner, he yelled out for mercy. Though he lay bleeding and crying out, officers
continued to hold him to the pavement, pinning him down, twisting his arm, with knees
to his back until he was handcuffed."

http://www.theroot.com/articles/news..._officers.html

He wasn't calling anyone a '****ing racist', he was simply asking for mercy.


Well we have the video of him calling the cops ****ing racists so that
is debunked a bit.
I suppose he might have said "freakin" but CNN beeped it anyway.


Hell, the video was in the same article. He was clearly saying '****ing racists' over
and over.
--

Guns don't cause problems.
The behavior of the owner causes problems.


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