Overarmed, Undertrained, and Racist.
 

On 3/20/2015 10:25 AM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 10:05:32 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/20/15 10:02 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/20/2015 8:43 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 05:05:00 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Friday, March 20, 2015 at 4:40:28 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 3/20/15 7:27 AM, Tim wrote:


Ha! Pokin' at the bear again.


Yeah, I suppose it is *ok* with you righties that the police all across
'Merica are beating up and sometimes killing *unarmed* civilians. But,
hey, why discuss it, eh? I mean, there are so many more important
topics
to discuss: golf, RV'ing, model airplanes, how much diesel fuel
Wayne is
buying, et cetera.

--
Proud to be a Liberal.

Ha! Pokin' at the bear again.

===

It would be interesting to hear Harry's version of how cops are
supposed to handle unruly people who are resisting arrest.





No ****. The kid at UVA was underage,
trying to get into a bar, was reported to be intoxicated and belligerent
and calling the arresting cops "****ing racists". Gets a bump on the
head in the scuffle and needs some stitches. Whoopie.

This is getting all kinds of media coverage and generating protests
claiming police brutality.

Meanwhile, you don't hear too much about the other recent incident in
Ferguson. Punk shoots a .40 cal pistol out of his car window and hits
two cops. First he admits firing the pistol but swears he wasn't aiming
at the cops. He says it was a dispute with someone near his car. Then,
that story was changed and he was "assaulted". He used his gun to
defend himself under "stand your ground". But now, after lawyering up,
he has recanted everything and claims he had nothing to do with it,
didn't have or shoot the gun.

But we don't hear much about this in the media.

The kid didn't call the cops "****ing racists" until they beat the ****
out of him and he was on the ground, bleeding. And it should get
coverage and protests. Thug cops.

No beating took place. As usual you grossly overexagerate what transpired. We have a
lot of Canada geese around here who are full of **** also.

The Ferguson shooting was all over "the media" I watch and read.

Yup, the initial shooting was all over the media. Then they caught a guy. Most of the
articles I read didn't mention his race at all. Since then there's been almost
nothing.

It's obvious you've never engaged in enough activity to have cut your head. Then
you'd know where all the blood came from.

Maybe it was ketchup.

--

Respectfully submitted by Justan

Laugh of the day from Krause

"I'm not to blame anymore for the atmosphere in here.
I've been "born again" as a nice guy."

Overarmed, Undertrained, and Racist.
 

On 3/20/15 10:30 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/20/2015 10:16 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 3/20/15 10:06 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/20/2015 9:41 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 3/20/15 9:31 AM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 09:19:26 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 3/20/15 9:13 AM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 08:43:41 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 05:05:00 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Friday, March 20, 2015 at 4:40:28 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 3/20/15 7:27 AM, Tim wrote:


Ha! Pokin' at the bear again.


Yeah, I suppose it is *ok* with you righties that the police all
across
'Merica are beating up and sometimes killing *unarmed* civilians.
But,
hey, why discuss it, eh? I mean, there are so many more important
topics
to discuss: golf, RV'ing, model airplanes, how much diesel fuel
Wayne is
buying, et cetera.

--
Proud to be a Liberal.

Ha! Pokin' at the bear again.

===

It would be interesting to hear Harry's version of how cops are
supposed to handle unruly people who are resisting arrest.

Start by saying, "Can't we all just be friends?"


No surprise...Wayne is a fan of police beating up unarmed civilians,
too.

Answer his question, Mr. 'Rause. You think you have all the answers.
Or is this one
you'd choose to skip. A bit hard maybe, eh?


If a gang of cops can't restrain an unarmed civilian without beating
the
crap out of him, they need more training or a different job. That's
your
answer, asswipe.



Sounds to me like you have never had to restrain a belligerent, 20 year
old drunk while he's calling you a "****ing racist" over and over.

Cops are trained to gain control of a situation as rapidly as possible
to avoid injury to themselves, the person being arrested or to
bystanders. Sorry the kid got a bump on the head in the process.




My small wife was trained to restrain out of control mental health
patients, and to do it with the help of one or two other mental healh
professionals. She received this training at a large state mental
hospital in Florida, where many dangerous "forensic" patients are housed
and treated, people I suspect are far more dangerous than the average
unarmed kid you find outside a college drinking joint.




She's only had to do this twice in her career, thankfully. The cops use
excess force because their training is not sufficient, the violent ones
are not weeded out, and they know they can get away with it.



Sorry Harry. That's a bit too much to swallow. What does your wife
use, the Vulcan nerve pinch made famous by Mr. Spock?



I have no idea, but she and other workers did it twice, without injury
to anyone. I do recall that one of the patients was a really large woman
who had murdered someone, was judged insane, and managed to first slam a
heavy steel door on a worker, cutting off one of the worker's fingers.
Then my wife and two others restrained the woman, and got her under
control. Without hitting her.

It's always interesting to me that here on rec.boats those without any
particular experience in matters such as I've described think they are
experts. I'm confident that any two or three properly trained mental
health workers could restrain just about any unarmed person without
causing serious injury. You work in a forensic hospital, you get
training. Lots of training.

--
Proud to be a Liberal.

Overarmed, Undertrained, and Racist.
 

On 3/20/15 10:34 AM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 10:24:17 -0400, Justan Olphart wrote:

On 3/20/2015 9:59 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 3/20/15 9:56 AM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 09:41:27 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/20/15 9:31 AM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 09:19:26 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/20/15 9:13 AM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 08:43:41 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 05:05:00 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Friday, March 20, 2015 at 4:40:28 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 3/20/15 7:27 AM, Tim wrote:


Ha! Pokin' at the bear again.


Yeah, I suppose it is *ok* with you righties that the police
all across
'Merica are beating up and sometimes killing *unarmed*
civilians. But,
hey, why discuss it, eh? I mean, there are so many more
important topics
to discuss: golf, RV'ing, model airplanes, how much diesel fuel
Wayne is
buying, et cetera.

--
Proud to be a Liberal.

Ha! Pokin' at the bear again.

===

It would be interesting to hear Harry's version of how cops are
supposed to handle unruly people who are resisting arrest.

Start by saying, "Can't we all just be friends?"


No surprise...Wayne is a fan of police beating up unarmed
civilians, too.

Answer his question, Mr. 'Rause. You think you have all the answers.
Or is this one
you'd choose to skip. A bit hard maybe, eh?


If a gang of cops can't restrain an unarmed civilian without beating the
crap out of him, they need more training or a different job. That's your
answer, asswipe.

Read the question. How are cops supposed to handle unruly people
resisting arrest?

You who think you have all the answers should be able to handle that.


D'oh. They are supposed to *restrain*, not beat the **** out of or
shoot. Restrain. Got it? Restrain. There are many ways to do this
properly without inflicting undue physical punishment on a person.

Like smashing an alleged burglar up against your driveway and breaking
his legs with your Ford 150s chrome bumper?

I seem to remember that story. Didn't 'the burglar' turn out to be a neighbor wanting
to borrow a shovel or something?


You should get yourself tested for Alzheimer's.

--
Proud to be a Liberal.

Overarmed, Undertrained, and Racist.
 

On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 10:50:32 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/20/15 10:30 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/20/2015 10:16 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 3/20/15 10:06 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/20/2015 9:41 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 3/20/15 9:31 AM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 09:19:26 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 3/20/15 9:13 AM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 08:43:41 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 05:05:00 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Friday, March 20, 2015 at 4:40:28 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 3/20/15 7:27 AM, Tim wrote:


Ha! Pokin' at the bear again.


Yeah, I suppose it is *ok* with you righties that the police all
across
'Merica are beating up and sometimes killing *unarmed* civilians.
But,
hey, why discuss it, eh? I mean, there are so many more important
topics
to discuss: golf, RV'ing, model airplanes, how much diesel fuel
Wayne is
buying, et cetera.

--
Proud to be a Liberal.

Ha! Pokin' at the bear again.

===

It would be interesting to hear Harry's version of how cops are
supposed to handle unruly people who are resisting arrest.

Start by saying, "Can't we all just be friends?"


No surprise...Wayne is a fan of police beating up unarmed civilians,
too.

Answer his question, Mr. 'Rause. You think you have all the answers.
Or is this one
you'd choose to skip. A bit hard maybe, eh?


If a gang of cops can't restrain an unarmed civilian without beating
the
crap out of him, they need more training or a different job. That's
your
answer, asswipe.



Sounds to me like you have never had to restrain a belligerent, 20 year
old drunk while he's calling you a "****ing racist" over and over.

Cops are trained to gain control of a situation as rapidly as possible
to avoid injury to themselves, the person being arrested or to
bystanders. Sorry the kid got a bump on the head in the process.




My small wife was trained to restrain out of control mental health
patients, and to do it with the help of one or two other mental healh
professionals. She received this training at a large state mental
hospital in Florida, where many dangerous "forensic" patients are housed
and treated, people I suspect are far more dangerous than the average
unarmed kid you find outside a college drinking joint.




She's only had to do this twice in her career, thankfully. The cops use
excess force because their training is not sufficient, the violent ones
are not weeded out, and they know they can get away with it.



Sorry Harry. That's a bit too much to swallow. What does your wife
use, the Vulcan nerve pinch made famous by Mr. Spock?



I have no idea, but she and other workers did it twice, without injury
to anyone. I do recall that one of the patients was a really large woman
who had murdered someone, was judged insane, and managed to first slam a
heavy steel door on a worker, cutting off one of the worker's fingers.
Then my wife and two others restrained the woman, and got her under
control. Without hitting her.

I did not see the cops striking the kid. Did you? If you are saying the orderlies did
not take the woman to the ground, after she cut off a finger with a door, then I
believe you are telling another lie.

It's always interesting to me that here on rec.boats those without any
particular experience in matters such as I've described think they are
experts. I'm confident that any two or three properly trained mental
health workers could restrain just about any unarmed person without
causing serious injury. You work in a forensic hospital, you get
training. Lots of training.

Unarmed? Did the cops know the kid was unarmed? Should cops treat all unruly
individuals as 'unarmed'?

Do you have any idea how full of **** you sound?

Ah yes, all law enforcement officers should have a bachelors degree in social work as
part of their training to become qualified.
--

Guns don't cause problems.
The behavior of the owner causes problems.

Overarmed, Undertrained, and Racist.
 

On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 10:38:16 -0400, Justan Olphart wrote:

On 3/20/2015 10:25 AM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 10:05:32 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/20/15 10:02 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/20/2015 8:43 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 05:05:00 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Friday, March 20, 2015 at 4:40:28 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 3/20/15 7:27 AM, Tim wrote:


Ha! Pokin' at the bear again.


Yeah, I suppose it is *ok* with you righties that the police all across
'Merica are beating up and sometimes killing *unarmed* civilians. But,
hey, why discuss it, eh? I mean, there are so many more important
topics
to discuss: golf, RV'ing, model airplanes, how much diesel fuel
Wayne is
buying, et cetera.

--
Proud to be a Liberal.

Ha! Pokin' at the bear again.

===

It would be interesting to hear Harry's version of how cops are
supposed to handle unruly people who are resisting arrest.





No ****. The kid at UVA was underage,
trying to get into a bar, was reported to be intoxicated and belligerent
and calling the arresting cops "****ing racists". Gets a bump on the
head in the scuffle and needs some stitches. Whoopie.

This is getting all kinds of media coverage and generating protests
claiming police brutality.

Meanwhile, you don't hear too much about the other recent incident in
Ferguson. Punk shoots a .40 cal pistol out of his car window and hits
two cops. First he admits firing the pistol but swears he wasn't aiming
at the cops. He says it was a dispute with someone near his car. Then,
that story was changed and he was "assaulted". He used his gun to
defend himself under "stand your ground". But now, after lawyering up,
he has recanted everything and claims he had nothing to do with it,
didn't have or shoot the gun.

But we don't hear much about this in the media.

The kid didn't call the cops "****ing racists" until they beat the ****
out of him and he was on the ground, bleeding. And it should get
coverage and protests. Thug cops.

No beating took place. As usual you grossly overexagerate what transpired. We have a
lot of Canada geese around here who are full of **** also.

The Ferguson shooting was all over "the media" I watch and read.

Yup, the initial shooting was all over the media. Then they caught a guy. Most of the
articles I read didn't mention his race at all. Since then there's been almost
nothing.

It's obvious you've never engaged in enough activity to have cut your head. Then
you'd know where all the blood came from.

Maybe it was ketchup.

One article said he got ten stitches 'the next morning'. Wonder why he waited? Don't
reckon his lawyer had anything to do with the stitches.
--

Guns don't cause problems.
The behavior of the owner causes problems.

Overarmed, Undertrained, and Racist.
 

On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 10:43:06 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 06:37:58 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Colonel Klink's boys?


http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/...review-n326226

I am waiting to find out what really happened.

Here's the best video I've seen yet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=0faIzE0TSJA

--

Guns don't cause problems.
The behavior of the owner causes problems.

Overarmed, Undertrained, and Racist.
 

On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 09:19:26 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 3/20/15 9:13 AM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 08:43:41 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 05:05:00 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Friday, March 20, 2015 at 4:40:28 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 3/20/15 7:27 AM, Tim wrote:


Ha! Pokin' at the bear again.


Yeah, I suppose it is *ok* with you righties that the police all across
'Merica are beating up and sometimes killing *unarmed* civilians. But,
hey, why discuss it, eh? I mean, there are so many more important topics
to discuss: golf, RV'ing, model airplanes, how much diesel fuel Wayne is
buying, et cetera.

--
Proud to be a Liberal.

Ha! Pokin' at the bear again.

===

It would be interesting to hear Harry's version of how cops are
supposed to handle unruly people who are resisting arrest.

Start by saying, "Can't we all just be friends?"


No surprise...Wayne is a fan of police beating up unarmed civilians, too.

===

No, Wayne is a fan of the police doing their job. Anyone who resists
arrest should expect to have a bad day. That's just the way it works.

Overarmed, Undertrained, and Racist.
 

On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 12:24:30 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 11:30:11 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 10:43:06 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 06:37:58 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Colonel Klink's boys?


http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/...review-n326226

I am waiting to find out what really happened.

Here's the best video I've seen yet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=0faIzE0TSJA

We still have no actual story about what got the kid arrested in the
first place.

His lawyer says he was not drunk but I haven't seen any report of his
actual BAC and we do not know if other drugs are involved.

Wait and see what happened before we jump to any conclusions.

I trust this will be investigated like the Kennedy assassination and
it will all come out soon enough.
Until then, isn't there something more important we should be
obsessing about?

There is always Benghazi ;-)

Can you just imagine what a story this would have been had the kid been white?
--

Guns don't cause problems.
The behavior of the owner causes problems.

Overarmed, Undertrained, and Racist.
 

On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 10:02:50 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Meanwhile, you don't hear too much about the other recent incident in
Ferguson. Punk shoots a .40 cal pistol out of his car window and hits
two cops. First he admits firing the pistol but swears he wasn't aiming
at the cops. He says it was a dispute with someone near his car. Then,
that story was changed and he was "assaulted". He used his gun to
defend himself under "stand your ground". But now, after lawyering up,
he has recanted everything and claims he had nothing to do with it,
didn't have or shoot the gun.

But we don't hear much about this in the media.

===

Garden variety liars don't make for an interesting story on the news.

Overarmed, Undertrained, and Racist.
 

On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 09:19:51 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Isn't it time for you to trade your boat before the warranty runs out?
That would be a good topic to discuss.

What boat?


The one you'll never be invited out on a ride on.

===

The nice thing about imaginary boats is that they are very economical
to opertate and maintain.