Overarmed, Undertrained, and Racist.
 

On 3/20/2015 10:05 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 3/20/15 10:02 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/20/2015 8:43 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 05:05:00 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Friday, March 20, 2015 at 4:40:28 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 3/20/15 7:27 AM, Tim wrote:


Ha! Pokin' at the bear again.


Yeah, I suppose it is *ok* with you righties that the police all
across
'Merica are beating up and sometimes killing *unarmed* civilians. But,
hey, why discuss it, eh? I mean, there are so many more important
topics
to discuss: golf, RV'ing, model airplanes, how much diesel fuel
Wayne is
buying, et cetera.

--
Proud to be a Liberal.

Ha! Pokin' at the bear again.

===

It would be interesting to hear Harry's version of how cops are
supposed to handle unruly people who are resisting arrest.





No ****. The kid at UVA was underage,
trying to get into a bar, was reported to be intoxicated and belligerent
and calling the arresting cops "****ing racists". Gets a bump on the
head in the scuffle and needs some stitches. Whoopie.

This is getting all kinds of media coverage and generating protests
claiming police brutality.

Meanwhile, you don't hear too much about the other recent incident in
Ferguson. Punk shoots a .40 cal pistol out of his car window and hits
two cops. First he admits firing the pistol but swears he wasn't aiming
at the cops. He says it was a dispute with someone near his car. Then,
that story was changed and he was "assaulted". He used his gun to
defend himself under "stand your ground". But now, after lawyering up,
he has recanted everything and claims he had nothing to do with it,
didn't have or shoot the gun.

But we don't hear much about this in the media.

The kid didn't call the cops "****ing racists" until they beat the ****
out of him and he was on the ground, bleeding. And it should get
coverage and protests. Thug cops.

The Ferguson shooting was all over "the media" I watch and read.




The cops "beat the **** out of him'? I've seen the video of the
arrest. I didn't see any "beating the **** out of him". They were
doing what cops do to belligerent drunks to gain control of the situation.

Overarmed, Undertrained, and Racist.
 

On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 09:59:36 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/20/15 9:56 AM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 09:41:27 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/20/15 9:31 AM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 09:19:26 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/20/15 9:13 AM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 08:43:41 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 05:05:00 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Friday, March 20, 2015 at 4:40:28 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 3/20/15 7:27 AM, Tim wrote:


Ha! Pokin' at the bear again.


Yeah, I suppose it is *ok* with you righties that the police all across
'Merica are beating up and sometimes killing *unarmed* civilians. But,
hey, why discuss it, eh? I mean, there are so many more important topics
to discuss: golf, RV'ing, model airplanes, how much diesel fuel Wayne is
buying, et cetera.

--
Proud to be a Liberal.

Ha! Pokin' at the bear again.

===

It would be interesting to hear Harry's version of how cops are
supposed to handle unruly people who are resisting arrest.

Start by saying, "Can't we all just be friends?"


No surprise...Wayne is a fan of police beating up unarmed civilians, too.

Answer his question, Mr. 'Rause. You think you have all the answers. Or is this one
you'd choose to skip. A bit hard maybe, eh?


If a gang of cops can't restrain an unarmed civilian without beating the
crap out of him, they need more training or a different job. That's your
answer, asswipe.

Read the question. How are cops supposed to handle unruly people resisting arrest?

You who think you have all the answers should be able to handle that.


D'oh. They are supposed to *restrain*, not beat the **** out of or
shoot. Restrain. Got it? Restrain. There are many ways to do this
properly without inflicting undue physical punishment on a person.

Amplify. You mean by wrapping arms around the hands and legs? Do they do this while
the unruly individual is standing? Do you actually think that would be possible,
unless the individual held his hands our to be cuffed?

I didn't see any 'beating the **** out of' going on in the video I saw. He was on the
sidewalk, face down, bumped his head on the concrete, and was then cuffed. Any cut on
the forehead will bleed profusely. I don't know what transpired before he was on the
sidewalk, or how much he resisted arrest.

Do you?
--

Guns don't cause problems.
The behavior of the owner causes problems.

Overarmed, Undertrained, and Racist.
 

On 3/20/2015 9:58 AM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 09:48:57 -0400, Justan Olphart wrote:

On 3/20/2015 9:42 AM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 09:35:28 -0400, Justan Olphart wrote:

On 3/20/2015 9:19 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 3/20/15 9:14 AM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 09:10:26 -0400, Justan Olphart
wrote:

On 3/20/2015 7:40 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 3/20/15 7:27 AM, Tim wrote:


Ha! Pokin' at the bear again.


Yeah, I suppose it is *ok* with you righties that the police all across
'Merica are beating up and sometimes killing *unarmed* civilians. But,
hey, why discuss it, eh? I mean, there are so many more important
topics
to discuss: golf, RV'ing, model airplanes, how much diesel fuel
Wayne is
buying, et cetera.

The cops are doing a pretty good job of keeping a lid on the volcano
that your boy created.
Isn't it time for you to trade your boat before the warranty runs out?
That would be a good topic to discuss.

What boat?


The one you'll never be invited out on a ride on.

Let's be neighborly Krausie. I'd love to ride on your boat.

What boat?

Weren't you here when Harry told us about his twin screw Volvo powered
Bayliner?

Are you 'respectfully submitting' the implication that you actually *believed* that
friggin' story?

Remember, this is the guy that sailed around Cape Horn - twice.

Then, I expect he's a very capable skipper. ;-)

--

Respectfully submitted by Justan

Laugh of the day from Krause

"I'm not to blame anymore for the atmosphere in here.
I've been "born again" as a nice guy."

Overarmed, Undertrained, and Racist.
 

On 3/20/2015 9:59 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 3/20/15 9:56 AM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 09:41:27 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/20/15 9:31 AM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 09:19:26 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/20/15 9:13 AM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 08:43:41 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 05:05:00 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Friday, March 20, 2015 at 4:40:28 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 3/20/15 7:27 AM, Tim wrote:


Ha! Pokin' at the bear again.


Yeah, I suppose it is *ok* with you righties that the police
all across
'Merica are beating up and sometimes killing *unarmed*
civilians. But,
hey, why discuss it, eh? I mean, there are so many more
important topics
to discuss: golf, RV'ing, model airplanes, how much diesel fuel
Wayne is
buying, et cetera.

--
Proud to be a Liberal.

Ha! Pokin' at the bear again.

===

It would be interesting to hear Harry's version of how cops are
supposed to handle unruly people who are resisting arrest.

Start by saying, "Can't we all just be friends?"


No surprise...Wayne is a fan of police beating up unarmed
civilians, too.

Answer his question, Mr. 'Rause. You think you have all the answers.
Or is this one
you'd choose to skip. A bit hard maybe, eh?


If a gang of cops can't restrain an unarmed civilian without beating the
crap out of him, they need more training or a different job. That's your
answer, asswipe.

Read the question. How are cops supposed to handle unruly people
resisting arrest?

You who think you have all the answers should be able to handle that.


D'oh. They are supposed to *restrain*, not beat the **** out of or
shoot. Restrain. Got it? Restrain. There are many ways to do this
properly without inflicting undue physical punishment on a person.

Like smashing an alleged burglar up against your driveway and breaking
his legs with your Ford 150s chrome bumper?

--

Respectfully submitted by Justan

Laugh of the day from Krause

"I'm not to blame anymore for the atmosphere in here.
I've been "born again" as a nice guy."

Overarmed, Undertrained, and Racist.
 

On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 10:05:32 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/20/15 10:02 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/20/2015 8:43 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 05:05:00 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Friday, March 20, 2015 at 4:40:28 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 3/20/15 7:27 AM, Tim wrote:


Ha! Pokin' at the bear again.


Yeah, I suppose it is *ok* with you righties that the police all across
'Merica are beating up and sometimes killing *unarmed* civilians. But,
hey, why discuss it, eh? I mean, there are so many more important
topics
to discuss: golf, RV'ing, model airplanes, how much diesel fuel
Wayne is
buying, et cetera.

--
Proud to be a Liberal.

Ha! Pokin' at the bear again.

===

It would be interesting to hear Harry's version of how cops are
supposed to handle unruly people who are resisting arrest.





No ****. The kid at UVA was underage,
trying to get into a bar, was reported to be intoxicated and belligerent
and calling the arresting cops "****ing racists". Gets a bump on the
head in the scuffle and needs some stitches. Whoopie.

This is getting all kinds of media coverage and generating protests
claiming police brutality.

Meanwhile, you don't hear too much about the other recent incident in
Ferguson. Punk shoots a .40 cal pistol out of his car window and hits
two cops. First he admits firing the pistol but swears he wasn't aiming
at the cops. He says it was a dispute with someone near his car. Then,
that story was changed and he was "assaulted". He used his gun to
defend himself under "stand your ground". But now, after lawyering up,
he has recanted everything and claims he had nothing to do with it,
didn't have or shoot the gun.

But we don't hear much about this in the media.

The kid didn't call the cops "****ing racists" until they beat the ****
out of him and he was on the ground, bleeding. And it should get
coverage and protests. Thug cops.

No beating took place. As usual you grossly overexagerate what transpired. We have a
lot of Canada geese around here who are full of **** also.

The Ferguson shooting was all over "the media" I watch and read.

Yup, the initial shooting was all over the media. Then they caught a guy. Most of the
articles I read didn't mention his race at all. Since then there's been almost
nothing.

It's obvious you've never engaged in enough activity to have cut your head. Then
you'd know where all the blood came from.
--

Guns don't cause problems.
The behavior of the owner causes problems.

Overarmed, Undertrained, and Racist.
 

On 3/20/2015 10:16 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 3/20/15 10:06 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/20/2015 9:41 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 3/20/15 9:31 AM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 09:19:26 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/20/15 9:13 AM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 08:43:41 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 05:05:00 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Friday, March 20, 2015 at 4:40:28 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 3/20/15 7:27 AM, Tim wrote:


Ha! Pokin' at the bear again.


Yeah, I suppose it is *ok* with you righties that the police all
across
'Merica are beating up and sometimes killing *unarmed* civilians.
But,
hey, why discuss it, eh? I mean, there are so many more important
topics
to discuss: golf, RV'ing, model airplanes, how much diesel fuel
Wayne is
buying, et cetera.

--
Proud to be a Liberal.

Ha! Pokin' at the bear again.

===

It would be interesting to hear Harry's version of how cops are
supposed to handle unruly people who are resisting arrest.

Start by saying, "Can't we all just be friends?"


No surprise...Wayne is a fan of police beating up unarmed civilians,
too.

Answer his question, Mr. 'Rause. You think you have all the answers.
Or is this one
you'd choose to skip. A bit hard maybe, eh?


If a gang of cops can't restrain an unarmed civilian without beating the
crap out of him, they need more training or a different job. That's your
answer, asswipe.



Sounds to me like you have never had to restrain a belligerent, 20 year
old drunk while he's calling you a "****ing racist" over and over.

Cops are trained to gain control of a situation as rapidly as possible
to avoid injury to themselves, the person being arrested or to
bystanders. Sorry the kid got a bump on the head in the process.




My small wife was trained to restrain out of control mental health
patients, and to do it with the help of one or two other mental healh
professionals. She received this training at a large state mental
hospital in Florida, where many dangerous "forensic" patients are housed
and treated, people I suspect are far more dangerous than the average
unarmed kid you find outside a college drinking joint.




She's only had to do this twice in her career, thankfully. The cops use
excess force because their training is not sufficient, the violent ones
are not weeded out, and they know they can get away with it.


You describe her as small? Did you forget you showed us the photo you
took at her graduation.

--

Respectfully submitted by Justan

Laugh of the day from Krause

"I'm not to blame anymore for the atmosphere in here.
I've been "born again" as a nice guy."

Overarmed, Undertrained, and Racist.
 

On 3/20/2015 10:16 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 3/20/15 10:06 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/20/2015 9:41 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 3/20/15 9:31 AM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 09:19:26 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/20/15 9:13 AM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 08:43:41 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 05:05:00 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Friday, March 20, 2015 at 4:40:28 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 3/20/15 7:27 AM, Tim wrote:


Ha! Pokin' at the bear again.


Yeah, I suppose it is *ok* with you righties that the police all
across
'Merica are beating up and sometimes killing *unarmed* civilians.
But,
hey, why discuss it, eh? I mean, there are so many more important
topics
to discuss: golf, RV'ing, model airplanes, how much diesel fuel
Wayne is
buying, et cetera.

--
Proud to be a Liberal.

Ha! Pokin' at the bear again.

===

It would be interesting to hear Harry's version of how cops are
supposed to handle unruly people who are resisting arrest.

Start by saying, "Can't we all just be friends?"


No surprise...Wayne is a fan of police beating up unarmed civilians,
too.

Answer his question, Mr. 'Rause. You think you have all the answers.
Or is this one
you'd choose to skip. A bit hard maybe, eh?


If a gang of cops can't restrain an unarmed civilian without beating the
crap out of him, they need more training or a different job. That's your
answer, asswipe.



Sounds to me like you have never had to restrain a belligerent, 20 year
old drunk while he's calling you a "****ing racist" over and over.

Cops are trained to gain control of a situation as rapidly as possible
to avoid injury to themselves, the person being arrested or to
bystanders. Sorry the kid got a bump on the head in the process.




My small wife was trained to restrain out of control mental health
patients, and to do it with the help of one or two other mental healh
professionals. She received this training at a large state mental
hospital in Florida, where many dangerous "forensic" patients are housed
and treated, people I suspect are far more dangerous than the average
unarmed kid you find outside a college drinking joint.




She's only had to do this twice in her career, thankfully. The cops use
excess force because their training is not sufficient, the violent ones
are not weeded out, and they know they can get away with it.



Sorry Harry. That's a bit too much to swallow. What does your wife
use, the Vulcan nerve pinch made famous by Mr. Spock?

Overarmed, Undertrained, and Racist.
 

On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 10:16:04 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/20/15 10:06 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/20/2015 9:41 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 3/20/15 9:31 AM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 09:19:26 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/20/15 9:13 AM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 08:43:41 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 05:05:00 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Friday, March 20, 2015 at 4:40:28 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 3/20/15 7:27 AM, Tim wrote:


Ha! Pokin' at the bear again.


Yeah, I suppose it is *ok* with you righties that the police all
across
'Merica are beating up and sometimes killing *unarmed* civilians.
But,
hey, why discuss it, eh? I mean, there are so many more important
topics
to discuss: golf, RV'ing, model airplanes, how much diesel fuel
Wayne is
buying, et cetera.

--
Proud to be a Liberal.

Ha! Pokin' at the bear again.

===

It would be interesting to hear Harry's version of how cops are
supposed to handle unruly people who are resisting arrest.

Start by saying, "Can't we all just be friends?"


No surprise...Wayne is a fan of police beating up unarmed civilians,
too.

Answer his question, Mr. 'Rause. You think you have all the answers.
Or is this one
you'd choose to skip. A bit hard maybe, eh?


If a gang of cops can't restrain an unarmed civilian without beating the
crap out of him, they need more training or a different job. That's your
answer, asswipe.



Sounds to me like you have never had to restrain a belligerent, 20 year
old drunk while he's calling you a "****ing racist" over and over.

Cops are trained to gain control of a situation as rapidly as possible
to avoid injury to themselves, the person being arrested or to
bystanders. Sorry the kid got a bump on the head in the process.




My small wife was trained to restrain out of control mental health
patients, and to do it with the help of one or two other mental healh
professionals. She received this training at a large state mental
hospital in Florida, where many dangerous "forensic" patients are housed
and treated, people I suspect are far more dangerous than the average
unarmed kid you find outside a college drinking joint.

How many times did she go around Cape Horn with you? And, in hospitals unruly
patients are subdued with drugs or a straightjacket. Been there and helped with both.
And, the floors are not concrete. Yes, 'Arry, I've seen patients taken down.

She's only had to do this twice in her career, thankfully. The cops use
excess force because their training is not sufficient, the violent ones
are not weeded out, and they know they can get away with it.

There you go, bringing up your wife again. Weren't you just whining about that a
couple days ago? Where's Mr. BAO?
--

Guns don't cause problems.
The behavior of the owner causes problems.

Overarmed, Undertrained, and Racist.
 

On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 10:19:49 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 3/20/2015 10:05 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 3/20/15 10:02 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/20/2015 8:43 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 05:05:00 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Friday, March 20, 2015 at 4:40:28 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 3/20/15 7:27 AM, Tim wrote:


Ha! Pokin' at the bear again.


Yeah, I suppose it is *ok* with you righties that the police all
across
'Merica are beating up and sometimes killing *unarmed* civilians. But,
hey, why discuss it, eh? I mean, there are so many more important
topics
to discuss: golf, RV'ing, model airplanes, how much diesel fuel
Wayne is
buying, et cetera.

--
Proud to be a Liberal.

Ha! Pokin' at the bear again.

===

It would be interesting to hear Harry's version of how cops are
supposed to handle unruly people who are resisting arrest.





No ****. The kid at UVA was underage,
trying to get into a bar, was reported to be intoxicated and belligerent
and calling the arresting cops "****ing racists". Gets a bump on the
head in the scuffle and needs some stitches. Whoopie.

This is getting all kinds of media coverage and generating protests
claiming police brutality.

Meanwhile, you don't hear too much about the other recent incident in
Ferguson. Punk shoots a .40 cal pistol out of his car window and hits
two cops. First he admits firing the pistol but swears he wasn't aiming
at the cops. He says it was a dispute with someone near his car. Then,
that story was changed and he was "assaulted". He used his gun to
defend himself under "stand your ground". But now, after lawyering up,
he has recanted everything and claims he had nothing to do with it,
didn't have or shoot the gun.

But we don't hear much about this in the media.

The kid didn't call the cops "****ing racists" until they beat the ****
out of him and he was on the ground, bleeding. And it should get
coverage and protests. Thug cops.

The Ferguson shooting was all over "the media" I watch and read.




The cops "beat the **** out of him'? I've seen the video of the
arrest. I didn't see any "beating the **** out of him". They were
doing what cops do to belligerent drunks to gain control of the situation.


Gosh, sounds like we watched the same video.
--

Guns don't cause problems.
The behavior of the owner causes problems.

Overarmed, Undertrained, and Racist.
 

On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 10:24:17 -0400, Justan Olphart wrote:

On 3/20/2015 9:59 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 3/20/15 9:56 AM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 09:41:27 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/20/15 9:31 AM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 09:19:26 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/20/15 9:13 AM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 08:43:41 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 05:05:00 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Friday, March 20, 2015 at 4:40:28 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 3/20/15 7:27 AM, Tim wrote:


Ha! Pokin' at the bear again.


Yeah, I suppose it is *ok* with you righties that the police
all across
'Merica are beating up and sometimes killing *unarmed*
civilians. But,
hey, why discuss it, eh? I mean, there are so many more
important topics
to discuss: golf, RV'ing, model airplanes, how much diesel fuel
Wayne is
buying, et cetera.

--
Proud to be a Liberal.

Ha! Pokin' at the bear again.

===

It would be interesting to hear Harry's version of how cops are
supposed to handle unruly people who are resisting arrest.

Start by saying, "Can't we all just be friends?"


No surprise...Wayne is a fan of police beating up unarmed
civilians, too.

Answer his question, Mr. 'Rause. You think you have all the answers.
Or is this one
you'd choose to skip. A bit hard maybe, eh?


If a gang of cops can't restrain an unarmed civilian without beating the
crap out of him, they need more training or a different job. That's your
answer, asswipe.

Read the question. How are cops supposed to handle unruly people
resisting arrest?

You who think you have all the answers should be able to handle that.


D'oh. They are supposed to *restrain*, not beat the **** out of or
shoot. Restrain. Got it? Restrain. There are many ways to do this
properly without inflicting undue physical punishment on a person.

Like smashing an alleged burglar up against your driveway and breaking
his legs with your Ford 150s chrome bumper?

I seem to remember that story. Didn't 'the burglar' turn out to be a neighbor wanting
to borrow a shovel or something?
--

Guns don't cause problems.
The behavior of the owner causes problems.