On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 09:42:07 -0400, Justan Olphart wrote:

On 3/20/2015 9:16 AM, John H wrote:
On Friday, March 20, 2015 at 7:40:28 AM UTC-4, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 3/20/15 7:27 AM, Tim wrote:


Ha! Pokin' at the bear again.


Yeah, I suppose it is *ok* with you righties that the police all across
'Merica are beating up and sometimes killing *unarmed* civilians. But,
hey, why discuss it, eh? I mean, there are so many more important topics
to discuss: golf, RV'ing, model airplanes, how much diesel fuel Wayne is
buying, et cetera.

Well, what is your 'Merican president, B'rack 'Bama, doing about it, eh?


He's the one who started the turmoil. The results you are seeing now
were very predictable. You can't take peoples homes, jobs, and reason to
be patriotic away from them, without repercussions.

Someone should inform 'Arry, the TOAD.
--

Guns don't cause problems.
The behavior of the owner causes problems.

On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 09:48:57 -0400, Justan Olphart wrote:

On 3/20/2015 9:42 AM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 09:35:28 -0400, Justan Olphart wrote:

On 3/20/2015 9:19 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 3/20/15 9:14 AM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 09:10:26 -0400, Justan Olphart
wrote:

On 3/20/2015 7:40 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 3/20/15 7:27 AM, Tim wrote:


Ha! Pokin' at the bear again.


Yeah, I suppose it is *ok* with you righties that the police all across
'Merica are beating up and sometimes killing *unarmed* civilians. But,
hey, why discuss it, eh? I mean, there are so many more important
topics
to discuss: golf, RV'ing, model airplanes, how much diesel fuel
Wayne is
buying, et cetera.

The cops are doing a pretty good job of keeping a lid on the volcano
that your boy created.
Isn't it time for you to trade your boat before the warranty runs out?
That would be a good topic to discuss.

What boat?


The one you'll never be invited out on a ride on.

Let's be neighborly Krausie. I'd love to ride on your boat.

What boat?

Weren't you here when Harry told us about his twin screw Volvo powered
Bayliner?

Are you 'respectfully submitting' the implication that you actually *believed* that
friggin' story?

Remember, this is the guy that sailed around Cape Horn - twice.
--

Guns don't cause problems.
The behavior of the owner causes problems.

On 3/20/15 9:56 AM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 09:41:27 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/20/15 9:31 AM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 09:19:26 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/20/15 9:13 AM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 08:43:41 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 05:05:00 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Friday, March 20, 2015 at 4:40:28 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 3/20/15 7:27 AM, Tim wrote:


Ha! Pokin' at the bear again.


Yeah, I suppose it is *ok* with you righties that the police all across
'Merica are beating up and sometimes killing *unarmed* civilians. But,
hey, why discuss it, eh? I mean, there are so many more important topics
to discuss: golf, RV'ing, model airplanes, how much diesel fuel Wayne is
buying, et cetera.

--
Proud to be a Liberal.

Ha! Pokin' at the bear again.

===

It would be interesting to hear Harry's version of how cops are
supposed to handle unruly people who are resisting arrest.

Start by saying, "Can't we all just be friends?"


No surprise...Wayne is a fan of police beating up unarmed civilians, too.

Answer his question, Mr. 'Rause. You think you have all the answers. Or is this one
you'd choose to skip. A bit hard maybe, eh?


If a gang of cops can't restrain an unarmed civilian without beating the
crap out of him, they need more training or a different job. That's your
answer, asswipe.

Read the question. How are cops supposed to handle unruly people resisting arrest?

You who think you have all the answers should be able to handle that.


D'oh. They are supposed to *restrain*, not beat the **** out of or
shoot. Restrain. Got it? Restrain. There are many ways to do this
properly without inflicting undue physical punishment on a person.

--
Proud to be a Liberal.

On 3/20/2015 8:43 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 05:05:00 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Friday, March 20, 2015 at 4:40:28 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 3/20/15 7:27 AM, Tim wrote:


Ha! Pokin' at the bear again.


Yeah, I suppose it is *ok* with you righties that the police all across
'Merica are beating up and sometimes killing *unarmed* civilians. But,
hey, why discuss it, eh? I mean, there are so many more important topics
to discuss: golf, RV'ing, model airplanes, how much diesel fuel Wayne is
buying, et cetera.

--
Proud to be a Liberal.

Ha! Pokin' at the bear again.

===

It would be interesting to hear Harry's version of how cops are
supposed to handle unruly people who are resisting arrest.





No ****. The kid at UVA was underage,
trying to get into a bar, was reported to be intoxicated and belligerent
and calling the arresting cops "****ing racists". Gets a bump on the
head in the scuffle and needs some stitches. Whoopie.

This is getting all kinds of media coverage and generating protests
claiming police brutality.

Meanwhile, you don't hear too much about the other recent incident in
Ferguson. Punk shoots a .40 cal pistol out of his car window and hits
two cops. First he admits firing the pistol but swears he wasn't aiming
at the cops. He says it was a dispute with someone near his car. Then,
that story was changed and he was "assaulted". He used his gun to
defend himself under "stand your ground". But now, after lawyering up,
he has recanted everything and claims he had nothing to do with it,
didn't have or shoot the gun.

But we don't hear much about this in the media.

On Friday, March 20, 2015 at 9:29:24 AM UTC-4, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 09:17:14 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/20/15 8:26 AM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 06:37:58 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

Colonel Klink's boys?


http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/...review-n326226

Yup, it looks like McAuliffe's ATF boys may have gotten carried away a bit. Isn't
Terry one of you Democrats? Of course, being called '****ing racists' might not have
helped the disposition of McAuliffe's boys.


I realize you are a right-wing racist and are a fan of police states,
but the reality is that police thuggery knows no political party.
Further, no matter what you might call cops does not give them the right
to beat the **** out of someone, especially a gang of cops. If a gang of
cops can't restrain a person without beating him up, they need training
or a different line of work.

Oh, and *Virginia's* "ATF boys" have a reputation for overreaction that
predates Governor Terry and other governors, Democratic and Republican.

Of course, you like to see black folks beaten up by the cops, right?

Well, what's your 'Merican Democrat, 'Auliffe done about it? Nothing, nada, zip. Just
another typical liberal that doesn't give a ****...like you - just something to open
his mouth about.
--

Guns don't cause problems. Gun owner
*behavior* causes problems.

Let's see... underage, public drunk, fake ID, refused entry into a bar, starts screaming obscentities at the people outside, ABC officers show up, he screams at them too, resists arrest, bumps his head on the sidewalk as he's being subdued. That sums it up.

I guess the police are going to just have to stop doing their jobs, eh? After all, some folks should just be allowed to break any law they wish and not comply with an officers orders without consequences.

Sheesh.

On 3/20/15 10:02 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/20/2015 8:43 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 05:05:00 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Friday, March 20, 2015 at 4:40:28 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 3/20/15 7:27 AM, Tim wrote:


Ha! Pokin' at the bear again.


Yeah, I suppose it is *ok* with you righties that the police all across
'Merica are beating up and sometimes killing *unarmed* civilians. But,
hey, why discuss it, eh? I mean, there are so many more important
topics
to discuss: golf, RV'ing, model airplanes, how much diesel fuel
Wayne is
buying, et cetera.

--
Proud to be a Liberal.

Ha! Pokin' at the bear again.

===

It would be interesting to hear Harry's version of how cops are
supposed to handle unruly people who are resisting arrest.





No ****. The kid at UVA was underage,
trying to get into a bar, was reported to be intoxicated and belligerent
and calling the arresting cops "****ing racists". Gets a bump on the
head in the scuffle and needs some stitches. Whoopie.

This is getting all kinds of media coverage and generating protests
claiming police brutality.

Meanwhile, you don't hear too much about the other recent incident in
Ferguson. Punk shoots a .40 cal pistol out of his car window and hits
two cops. First he admits firing the pistol but swears he wasn't aiming
at the cops. He says it was a dispute with someone near his car. Then,
that story was changed and he was "assaulted". He used his gun to
defend himself under "stand your ground". But now, after lawyering up,
he has recanted everything and claims he had nothing to do with it,
didn't have or shoot the gun.

But we don't hear much about this in the media.

The kid didn't call the cops "****ing racists" until they beat the ****
out of him and he was on the ground, bleeding. And it should get
coverage and protests. Thug cops.

The Ferguson shooting was all over "the media" I watch and read.


--
Proud to be a Liberal.

On Friday, March 20, 2015 at 10:02:52 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/20/2015 8:43 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 05:05:00 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Friday, March 20, 2015 at 4:40:28 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 3/20/15 7:27 AM, Tim wrote:


Ha! Pokin' at the bear again.


Yeah, I suppose it is *ok* with you righties that the police all across
'Merica are beating up and sometimes killing *unarmed* civilians. But,
hey, why discuss it, eh? I mean, there are so many more important topics
to discuss: golf, RV'ing, model airplanes, how much diesel fuel Wayne is
buying, et cetera.

--
Proud to be a Liberal.

Ha! Pokin' at the bear again.

===

It would be interesting to hear Harry's version of how cops are
supposed to handle unruly people who are resisting arrest.





No ****. The kid at UVA was underage,
trying to get into a bar, was reported to be intoxicated and belligerent
and calling the arresting cops "****ing racists". Gets a bump on the
head in the scuffle and needs some stitches. Whoopie.

This is getting all kinds of media coverage and generating protests
claiming police brutality.

Meanwhile, you don't hear too much about the other recent incident in
Ferguson. Punk shoots a .40 cal pistol out of his car window and hits
two cops. First he admits firing the pistol but swears he wasn't aiming
at the cops. He says it was a dispute with someone near his car. Then,
that story was changed and he was "assaulted". He used his gun to
defend himself under "stand your ground". But now, after lawyering up,
he has recanted everything and claims he had nothing to do with it,
didn't have or shoot the gun.

But we don't hear much about this in the media.

Ding, ding! We have a winner.

On 3/20/2015 9:41 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 3/20/15 9:31 AM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 09:19:26 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/20/15 9:13 AM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 08:43:41 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 05:05:00 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Friday, March 20, 2015 at 4:40:28 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 3/20/15 7:27 AM, Tim wrote:


Ha! Pokin' at the bear again.


Yeah, I suppose it is *ok* with you righties that the police all
across
'Merica are beating up and sometimes killing *unarmed* civilians.
But,
hey, why discuss it, eh? I mean, there are so many more important
topics
to discuss: golf, RV'ing, model airplanes, how much diesel fuel
Wayne is
buying, et cetera.

--
Proud to be a Liberal.

Ha! Pokin' at the bear again.

===

It would be interesting to hear Harry's version of how cops are
supposed to handle unruly people who are resisting arrest.

Start by saying, "Can't we all just be friends?"


No surprise...Wayne is a fan of police beating up unarmed civilians,
too.

Answer his question, Mr. 'Rause. You think you have all the answers.
Or is this one
you'd choose to skip. A bit hard maybe, eh?


If a gang of cops can't restrain an unarmed civilian without beating the
crap out of him, they need more training or a different job. That's your
answer, asswipe.



Sounds to me like you have never had to restrain a belligerent, 20 year
old drunk while he's calling you a "****ing racist" over and over.

Cops are trained to gain control of a situation as rapidly as possible
to avoid injury to themselves, the person being arrested or to
bystanders. Sorry the kid got a bump on the head in the process.

On 3/20/2015 8:30 AM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 06:37:58 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

Colonel Klink's boys?


http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/...review-n326226

Yup, it looks like McAuliffe's ATF boys may have gotten carried away a bit. Isn't
Terry one of you Democrats? Of course, being called '****ing racists' might not have
helped the disposition of McAuliffe's boys.



According to reports he was also drunk and belligerent. If you watch
the video of his arrest it certainly seems that was the case.

I don't blame the cops regardless of the race of the guy. He didn't
cooperate.

If you don't like being arrested by law enforcement, don't break the law.

On 3/20/15 10:06 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/20/2015 9:41 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 3/20/15 9:31 AM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 09:19:26 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/20/15 9:13 AM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 08:43:41 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 05:05:00 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Friday, March 20, 2015 at 4:40:28 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 3/20/15 7:27 AM, Tim wrote:


Ha! Pokin' at the bear again.


Yeah, I suppose it is *ok* with you righties that the police all
across
'Merica are beating up and sometimes killing *unarmed* civilians.
But,
hey, why discuss it, eh? I mean, there are so many more important
topics
to discuss: golf, RV'ing, model airplanes, how much diesel fuel
Wayne is
buying, et cetera.

--
Proud to be a Liberal.

Ha! Pokin' at the bear again.

===

It would be interesting to hear Harry's version of how cops are
supposed to handle unruly people who are resisting arrest.

Start by saying, "Can't we all just be friends?"


No surprise...Wayne is a fan of police beating up unarmed civilians,
too.

Answer his question, Mr. 'Rause. You think you have all the answers.
Or is this one
you'd choose to skip. A bit hard maybe, eh?


If a gang of cops can't restrain an unarmed civilian without beating the
crap out of him, they need more training or a different job. That's your
answer, asswipe.



Sounds to me like you have never had to restrain a belligerent, 20 year
old drunk while he's calling you a "****ing racist" over and over.

Cops are trained to gain control of a situation as rapidly as possible
to avoid injury to themselves, the person being arrested or to
bystanders. Sorry the kid got a bump on the head in the process.




My small wife was trained to restrain out of control mental health
patients, and to do it with the help of one or two other mental healh
professionals. She received this training at a large state mental
hospital in Florida, where many dangerous "forensic" patients are housed
and treated, people I suspect are far more dangerous than the average
unarmed kid you find outside a college drinking joint.




She's only had to do this twice in her career, thankfully. The cops use
excess force because their training is not sufficient, the violent ones
are not weeded out, and they know they can get away with it.

--
Proud to be a Liberal.