If you watch shows or movies on Netflix then you are in favor of Net
Neutrality.

If you like YouTube then you are in favor of Net Neutrality.

If you listen to Pandora then you are in favor of Net Neutrality.

If you enjoy funny videos of animals or kids on Facebook then you are in
favor of Net Neutrality.

If you dislike the idea of your Internet provider squeezing the "pipe"
to a trickle unless you pay an additional premium then you are in favor
of Net Neutrality.

If you are creeped out by the idea that your Internet provider could
stop you from getting to the websites of their competitors then you are
in favor of Net Neutrality.
--
Proud to be a Liberal.

On 2/27/2015 10:07 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:

If you watch shows or movies on Netflix then you are in favor of Net
Neutrality.

If you like YouTube then you are in favor of Net Neutrality.

If you listen to Pandora then you are in favor of Net Neutrality.

If you enjoy funny videos of animals or kids on Facebook then you are in
favor of Net Neutrality.

If you dislike the idea of your Internet provider squeezing the "pipe"
to a trickle unless you pay an additional premium then you are in favor
of Net Neutrality.

If you are creeped out by the idea that your Internet provider could
stop you from getting to the websites of their competitors then you are
in favor of Net Neutrality.

And, of course, if you are in favor of the government controlling just
about E-V-E-R-Y-T-H-I-N-G, you are a liberal. ;-)

--

Respectfully submitted by Justan

Laugh of the day from Krause

"I'm not to blame anymore for the atmosphere in here.
I've been "born again" as a nice guy."

On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 12:12:27 -0500, wrote:

Why should a person who sits there all day watching cat
videos and streamed movies be paying the same price as someone who
just checks their E-mail a couple times a day?

===

I've got an idea, let's invent something called "dial-up service" with
a modem.

Or maybe we could design an acoustical coupler for a cell phone. :-)

On 2/27/15 4:19 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 13:39:30 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 12:12:27 -0500, wrote:

Why should a person who sits there all day watching cat
videos and streamed movies be paying the same price as someone who
just checks their E-mail a couple times a day?

===

I've got an idea, let's invent something called "dial-up service" with
a modem.

Or maybe we could design an acoustical coupler for a cell phone. :-)


If all you are doing is text E-mail and usenet, dialup works just
fine. My connection defaults to dial up if the broadband is down and I
barely notice the difference here until I click a link to a web site.
Back when I had Comcast, I was using dial up a lot. Now with my DSL,
it is very rare.

I am sure a coupler would work fine on a cell phone if you could
actually get the speaker and mikes coupled. You might be stuck with
2400 BPS though. I am not sure quadrature modulation would work on the
compressed cell signal. I never even saw a V.34 connection with a
coupler on a land line. The 5x kb v.90 is out of the question. That
requires landline infrastructure that is not in a cell tower.

It might be an interesting hack if I could come up with a
coupler/modem.

As far as the original assertion, a person just looking at E-mail
these days will still be getting quite a bit of graphic content,
before they even get the E-mail client open if they use any of the
services like Yahoo, AOL, MSN etc.
I am still running AOL 7 for my mail, just because there is virtually
no graphic content and it will not run scripts. When I get that script
error message on what looks like an innocuous note, I wonder what they
were trying to do to me.


It must be interesting (not) to live in such a state of "wonderment" or
fear that you make sure you don't get those awful "graphics" with some
of your emails.

I don't use Yahoo, AOL, or MSN for incoming email, but I still get and
accept graphics with emails from a number of those entities that send me
emails.

DSL is broadband? Wow...it must have had quantum leaps in technology. I
always thought it was really slow compared to cable.

We dumped out dialup carrier years ago when we went to smartphones. Once
in a while the cable service goes down and if it does, the cell net
usually is still up and delivering email or web services.





--
Proud to be a Liberal.

On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 16:25:56 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

It must be interesting (not) to live in such a state of "wonderment" or
fear that you make sure you don't get those awful "graphics" with some
of your emails.

===

Surely even you know better than that. The graphics aren't an issue.
It's the scripting behind the graphics that can cause mischief.

On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 17:39:46 -0500, Wayne.B wrote:

On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 16:25:56 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

It must be interesting (not) to live in such a state of "wonderment" or
fear that you make sure you don't get those awful "graphics" with some
of your emails.

===

Surely even you know better than that. The graphics aren't an issue.
It's the scripting behind the graphics that can cause mischief.

MS Outlook doesn't open graphics unless I ask it to.
--

Guns don't cause problems. The behavior
of certain gun owners causes problems.

On 2/27/15 4:50 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 16:25:56 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 2/27/15 4:19 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 13:39:30 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 12:12:27 -0500, wrote:

Why should a person who sits there all day watching cat
videos and streamed movies be paying the same price as someone who
just checks their E-mail a couple times a day?

===

I've got an idea, let's invent something called "dial-up service" with
a modem.

Or maybe we could design an acoustical coupler for a cell phone. :-)


If all you are doing is text E-mail and usenet, dialup works just
fine. My connection defaults to dial up if the broadband is down and I
barely notice the difference here until I click a link to a web site.
Back when I had Comcast, I was using dial up a lot. Now with my DSL,
it is very rare.

I am sure a coupler would work fine on a cell phone if you could
actually get the speaker and mikes coupled. You might be stuck with
2400 BPS though. I am not sure quadrature modulation would work on the
compressed cell signal. I never even saw a V.34 connection with a
coupler on a land line. The 5x kb v.90 is out of the question. That
requires landline infrastructure that is not in a cell tower.

It might be an interesting hack if I could come up with a
coupler/modem.

As far as the original assertion, a person just looking at E-mail
these days will still be getting quite a bit of graphic content,
before they even get the E-mail client open if they use any of the
services like Yahoo, AOL, MSN etc.
I am still running AOL 7 for my mail, just because there is virtually
no graphic content and it will not run scripts. When I get that script
error message on what looks like an innocuous note, I wonder what they
were trying to do to me.


It must be interesting (not) to live in such a state of "wonderment" or
fear that you make sure you don't get those awful "graphics" with some
of your emails.

I don't use Yahoo, AOL, or MSN for incoming email, but I still get and
accept graphics with emails from a number of those entities that send me
emails.

DSL is broadband? Wow...it must have had quantum leaps in technology. I
always thought it was really slow compared to cable.

We dumped out dialup carrier years ago when we went to smartphones. Once
in a while the cable service goes down and if it does, the cell net
usually is still up and delivering email or web services.

DSL is 10 meg and the reliability is far better than Comcast, no
matter how fast it is when it works. 10 meg all the time is a whole
lot better that 30 meg that is down at least once a day.
What, exactly are you streaming that needs more than 10 meg?
I think you are probably an audiophool who can hear the oxygen in your
speaker cables too,

If you need an animated graphic of a monkey ****ing a football in the
corner of your screen to read a text E-mail, you are the perfect
internet customer for the people who are going to be metering your
service by the byte.



Once in a while Comcast goes down because a tree has fallen on the
overhead wires that carry its signal before it gets to the underground
wires on our street. If that happens, the odds are DSL will go down,
too, for the same reason.

So, you must get a lot of emails with a "monkey ****ing a football," eh?
Figures.

--
Proud to be a Liberal.

On 2/27/15 5:51 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 17:39:46 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 16:25:56 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

It must be interesting (not) to live in such a state of "wonderment" or
fear that you make sure you don't get those awful "graphics" with some
of your emails.

===

Surely even you know better than that. The graphics aren't an issue.
It's the scripting behind the graphics that can cause mischief.

I try not to confuse Harry with too much technical chatter. He will
call me a hobbyist and snerk.



D'oh

"To protect you from those with malicious intent, Thunderbird does not
allow any scripts (VBscript JavaScript) to run within the email. This
means that the bouncing ball or the funny banner that the sender
programs to follow your mouse simply will not work, but it also means
that the folks over at virii R us can't get their little gem to play
either, so even if the mail contains a script to download every know
virus onto your computer, opening the email will do nothing because the
script simply can't run.

"This is also the case with Flash animations and flash movies. They
also don't work, and for the same reason that the scripts are disabled.
They represent a threat to your security."

Perhaps you need to upgrade to modern software, eh?
Oh, and I'm going to eat more beans, to make Wayne's sniffing up my ass
more pleasant for him.


--
Proud to be a Liberal.

On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 17:51:03 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 17:39:46 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 16:25:56 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

It must be interesting (not) to live in such a state of "wonderment" or
fear that you make sure you don't get those awful "graphics" with some
of your emails.

===

Surely even you know better than that. The graphics aren't an issue.
It's the scripting behind the graphics that can cause mischief.

I try not to confuse Harry with too much technical chatter. He will
call me a hobbyist and snerk.

I wonder what pills Harry takes for his inflamed back.
--

Guns don't cause problems. The behavior
of certain gun owners causes problems.

On 2/27/2015 7:21 PM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 17:51:03 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 17:39:46 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 16:25:56 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

It must be interesting (not) to live in such a state of "wonderment" or
fear that you make sure you don't get those awful "graphics" with some
of your emails.

===

Surely even you know better than that. The graphics aren't an issue.
It's the scripting behind the graphics that can cause mischief.

I try not to confuse Harry with too much technical chatter. He will
call me a hobbyist and snerk.

I wonder what pills Harry takes for his inflamed back.


Osteopenia and an inflamed back? He's a mess, isn't he?

--

Respectfully submitted by Justan

Laugh of the day from Krause

"I'm not to blame anymore for the atmosphere in here.
I've been "born again" as a nice guy."