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3 Ways to Stop the .223/5.56 (M855) Ammunition Ban
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On 2/22/15 8:21 PM, John H. wrote:
3 Ways to Stop the .223/5.56 (M855) Ammunition Ban http://blog.cheaperthandirt.com/3-wa...pthe223m855ban I have no need for steel tip penetrator rounds. -- Proud to be a Liberal. |
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On Sunday, February 22, 2015 at 7:48:27 PM UTC-8, wrote:
On Sun, 22 Feb 2015 22:22:17 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Sun, 22 Feb 2015 21:21:54 -0500, wrote: On Sun, 22 Feb 2015 20:21:00 -0500, John H. wrote: 3 Ways to Stop the .223/5.56 (M855) Ammunition Ban http://blog.cheaperthandirt.com/3-wa...pthe223m855ban They make is sound like most rifle bullets will not go through both sides of the level III-A vest.. You really need a ballistic plate to stop a rifle and even then, not all rifles. === Are there any handguns set up for the .223/5.56 (M855) round? Several but this may be ugly enough to attract their attention http://www.impactguns.com/kel-tec-pl...832000375.aspx Only other one I can think of is a single shot Thompson Contender http://media.liveauctiongroup.net/i/...CC887D551CAEF0 |
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On Sun, 22 Feb 2015 22:48:16 -0500, wrote:
On Sun, 22 Feb 2015 22:22:17 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Sun, 22 Feb 2015 21:21:54 -0500, wrote: On Sun, 22 Feb 2015 20:21:00 -0500, John H. wrote: 3 Ways to Stop the .223/5.56 (M855) Ammunition Ban http://blog.cheaperthandirt.com/3-wa...pthe223m855ban They make is sound like most rifle bullets will not go through both sides of the level III-A vest.. You really need a ballistic plate to stop a rifle and even then, not all rifles. === Are there any handguns set up for the .223/5.56 (M855) round? Several but this may be ugly enough to attract their attention http://www.impactguns.com/kel-tec-pl...832000375.aspx Wow, hadn't seen that one yet. For 'target shooting and hunting'. Wonder how long before someone sells a front handgrip for the thing. Whoops. Should have known: http://snakeriverarms.com/wp-content..._10150_1_7.JPG -- Guns don't cause problems. The behavior of certain gun owners causes problems. |
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I changed the subject line, since as originally posted it had nothing to
do with me or my interests. I forgot which moron started it. On 2/23/15 9:27 AM, John H. wrote: On Sun, 22 Feb 2015 22:48:16 -0500, wrote: On Sun, 22 Feb 2015 22:22:17 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Sun, 22 Feb 2015 21:21:54 -0500, wrote: On Sun, 22 Feb 2015 20:21:00 -0500, John H. wrote: 3 Ways to Stop the .223/5.56 (M855) Ammunition Ban http://blog.cheaperthandirt.com/3-wa...pthe223m855ban They make is sound like most rifle bullets will not go through both sides of the level III-A vest.. You really need a ballistic plate to stop a rifle and even then, not all rifles. === Are there any handguns set up for the .223/5.56 (M855) round? Several but this may be ugly enough to attract their attention http://www.impactguns.com/kel-tec-pl...832000375.aspx Wow, hadn't seen that one yet. For 'target shooting and hunting'. Wonder how long before someone sells a front handgrip for the thing. Whoops. Should have known: http://snakeriverarms.com/wp-content..._10150_1_7.JPG -- Proud to be a Liberal. |
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Greg you're right but I'm thinking more of a dedicated pistol instead of a cut down bullpup
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On Mon, 23 Feb 2015 09:40:28 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:
I changed the subject line, since as originally posted it had nothing to do with me or my interests. I forgot which moron started it. On 2/23/15 9:27 AM, John H. wrote: On Sun, 22 Feb 2015 22:48:16 -0500, wrote: On Sun, 22 Feb 2015 22:22:17 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Sun, 22 Feb 2015 21:21:54 -0500, wrote: On Sun, 22 Feb 2015 20:21:00 -0500, John H. wrote: 3 Ways to Stop the .223/5.56 (M855) Ammunition Ban http://blog.cheaperthandirt.com/3-wa...pthe223m855ban They make is sound like most rifle bullets will not go through both sides of the level III-A vest.. You really need a ballistic plate to stop a rifle and even then, not all rifles. === Are there any handguns set up for the .223/5.56 (M855) round? Several but this may be ugly enough to attract their attention http://www.impactguns.com/kel-tec-pl...832000375.aspx Wow, hadn't seen that one yet. For 'target shooting and hunting'. Wonder how long before someone sells a front handgrip for the thing. Whoops. Should have known: http://snakeriverarms.com/wp-content..._10150_1_7.JPG I'd heard narcissism's a bitch. -- Guns don't cause problems. The behavior of certain gun owners causes problems. |
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On Mon, 23 Feb 2015 11:35:30 -0500, John H.
wrote: On Mon, 23 Feb 2015 09:40:28 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: I changed the subject line, since as originally posted it had nothing to do with me or my interests. I forgot which moron started it. On 2/23/15 9:27 AM, John H. wrote: On Sun, 22 Feb 2015 22:48:16 -0500, wrote: On Sun, 22 Feb 2015 22:22:17 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Sun, 22 Feb 2015 21:21:54 -0500, wrote: On Sun, 22 Feb 2015 20:21:00 -0500, John H. wrote: 3 Ways to Stop the .223/5.56 (M855) Ammunition Ban http://blog.cheaperthandirt.com/3-wa...pthe223m855ban They make is sound like most rifle bullets will not go through both sides of the level III-A vest.. You really need a ballistic plate to stop a rifle and even then, not all rifles. === Are there any handguns set up for the .223/5.56 (M855) round? Several but this may be ugly enough to attract their attention http://www.impactguns.com/kel-tec-pl...832000375.aspx Wow, hadn't seen that one yet. For 'target shooting and hunting'. Wonder how long before someone sells a front handgrip for the thing. Whoops. Should have known: http://snakeriverarms.com/wp-content..._10150_1_7.JPG I'd heard narcissism's a bitch. === You can't really understand the depth of Harry's greatness unless you studied 4 years of Latin in high school and wrote 20 page book reports. You'd think that with talent and training like that he would have gone to Harvard or Princeton on a full scholarship. |
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On Mon, 23 Feb 2015 12:27:25 -0500, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 23 Feb 2015 11:35:30 -0500, John H. wrote: On Mon, 23 Feb 2015 09:40:28 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: I changed the subject line, since as originally posted it had nothing to do with me or my interests. I forgot which moron started it. On 2/23/15 9:27 AM, John H. wrote: On Sun, 22 Feb 2015 22:48:16 -0500, wrote: On Sun, 22 Feb 2015 22:22:17 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Sun, 22 Feb 2015 21:21:54 -0500, wrote: On Sun, 22 Feb 2015 20:21:00 -0500, John H. wrote: 3 Ways to Stop the .223/5.56 (M855) Ammunition Ban http://blog.cheaperthandirt.com/3-wa...pthe223m855ban They make is sound like most rifle bullets will not go through both sides of the level III-A vest.. You really need a ballistic plate to stop a rifle and even then, not all rifles. === Are there any handguns set up for the .223/5.56 (M855) round? Several but this may be ugly enough to attract their attention http://www.impactguns.com/kel-tec-pl...832000375.aspx Wow, hadn't seen that one yet. For 'target shooting and hunting'. Wonder how long before someone sells a front handgrip for the thing. Whoops. Should have known: http://snakeriverarms.com/wp-content..._10150_1_7.JPG I'd heard narcissism's a bitch. === You can't really understand the depth of Harry's greatness unless you studied 4 years of Latin in high school and wrote 20 page book reports. You'd think that with talent and training like that he would have gone to Harvard or Princeton on a full scholarship. That story may explain the source of his verbosity. -- Guns don't cause problems. The behavior of certain gun owners causes problems. |
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On Mon, 23 Feb 2015 15:49:26 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/23/15 11:08 AM, wrote: On Mon, 23 Feb 2015 07:07:39 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: Greg you're right but I'm thinking more of a dedicated pistol instead of a cut down bullpup This is just a way to sidestep the ATF short barrel rifle law. You notice they call those stumpy stocks a "brace" too. Some of these things accept AR style accessories so you could put a telescoping M4 shoulder stock on most of them but you are then making a "hold your nose legal" gun illegal. I think they make these things, just because they can and I am not really sure what they are good for. One of the guys I occasionally see out in Virginia has one of those AR type pistols. I shot a few rounds out of it once. I agree...I have no idea what they are good for, aside from bragging rights. Seems to be true of pretty much all the AR type guns. Bragging rights. About what, I don't know. -- Guns don't cause problems. The behavior of certain gun owners causes problems. |
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On Mon, 23 Feb 2015 16:16:32 -0500, John H.
wrote: Seems to be true of pretty much all the AR type guns. Bragging rights. About what, I don't know. === They are astually a decent hunting rifle for anything up to the size of a wild boar or so. |
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On Mon, 23 Feb 2015 18:39:17 -0500, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 23 Feb 2015 16:16:32 -0500, John H. wrote: Seems to be true of pretty much all the AR type guns. Bragging rights. About what, I don't know. === They are astually a decent hunting rifle for anything up to the size of a wild boar or so. Would that not be true of the Ruger Mini-14 also? -- Guns don't cause problems. The behavior of certain gun owners causes problems. |
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On Mon, 23 Feb 2015 18:55:56 -0500, John H.
wrote: On Mon, 23 Feb 2015 18:39:17 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 23 Feb 2015 16:16:32 -0500, John H. wrote: Seems to be true of pretty much all the AR type guns. Bragging rights. About what, I don't know. === They are astually a decent hunting rifle for anything up to the size of a wild boar or so. Would that not be true of the Ruger Mini-14 also? === I'd certainly think so but the question was about AR-15 types. I think a lot of states limit hunting guns to a 5 round magazine so that could be an issue either way. |
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On 2/23/2015 12:27 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 23 Feb 2015 11:35:30 -0500, John H. wrote: On Mon, 23 Feb 2015 09:40:28 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: I changed the subject line, since as originally posted it had nothing to do with me or my interests. I forgot which moron started it. On 2/23/15 9:27 AM, John H. wrote: On Sun, 22 Feb 2015 22:48:16 -0500, wrote: On Sun, 22 Feb 2015 22:22:17 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Sun, 22 Feb 2015 21:21:54 -0500, wrote: On Sun, 22 Feb 2015 20:21:00 -0500, John H. wrote: 3 Ways to Stop the .223/5.56 (M855) Ammunition Ban http://blog.cheaperthandirt.com/3-wa...pthe223m855ban They make is sound like most rifle bullets will not go through both sides of the level III-A vest.. You really need a ballistic plate to stop a rifle and even then, not all rifles. === Are there any handguns set up for the .223/5.56 (M855) round? Several but this may be ugly enough to attract their attention http://www.impactguns.com/kel-tec-pl...832000375.aspx Wow, hadn't seen that one yet. For 'target shooting and hunting'. Wonder how long before someone sells a front handgrip for the thing. Whoops. Should have known: http://snakeriverarms.com/wp-content..._10150_1_7.JPG I'd heard narcissism's a bitch. === You can't really understand the depth of Harry's greatness unless you studied 4 years of Latin in high school and wrote 20 page book reports. You'd think that with talent and training like that he would have gone to Harvard or Princeton on a full scholarship. Or at least had enough business sense to not go bankrupt twice... |
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On Monday, February 23, 2015 at 3:55:46 PM UTC-8, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 23 Feb 2015 18:39:17 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 23 Feb 2015 16:16:32 -0500, John H. wrote: Seems to be true of pretty much all the AR type guns. Bragging rights. About what, I don't know. === They are astually a decent hunting rifle for anything up to the size of a wild boar or so. Would that not be true of the Ruger Mini-14 also? -- Guns don't cause problems. The behavior of certain gun owners causes problems. Yes it absolutely would. Does wonders on deer too! |
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On Monday, February 23, 2015 at 5:26:04 PM UTC-8, wrote:
On Mon, 23 Feb 2015 18:39:17 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 23 Feb 2015 16:16:32 -0500, John H. wrote: Seems to be true of pretty much all the AR type guns. Bragging rights. About what, I don't know. === They are actually a decent hunting rifle for anything up to the size of a wild boar or so. With the right bullet it would certainly take down wood chucks and you could take the head off a turkey. I am sure a deer would bleed out without too much of a chase but I think I would want something a tad heavier if I was shooting at a ****ed off 400 pound tusker coming at me.. I wouldn't want to try to tap one charging at me either. A 12g. slug would be more suitable for that task. but It would easily take a wild boar down if you casually whacked it. Especially if you could get the pig behind the ear. |
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On Monday, February 23, 2015 at 8:46:25 PM UTC-8, Wayne. B wrote:
On Mon, 23 Feb 2015 20:25:51 -0500, wrote: On Mon, 23 Feb 2015 18:39:17 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 23 Feb 2015 16:16:32 -0500, John H. wrote: Seems to be true of pretty much all the AR type guns. Bragging rights. About what, I don't know. === They are astually a decent hunting rifle for anything up to the size of a wild boar or so. With the right bullet it would certainly take down wood chucks and you could take the head off a turkey. I am sure a deer would bleed out without too much of a chase but I think I would want something a tad heavier if I was shooting at a ****ed off 400 pound tusker coming at me.. === Don't forget about the quick follow up shots. Because of the high velocity they have a lot of striking power. agreed Wayne, especially with lead tip or hollowpoints, and...especially if you hit bone. |
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On Monday, February 23, 2015 at 8:48:03 PM UTC-8, wrote:
On Mon, 23 Feb 2015 18:24:30 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: On Monday, February 23, 2015 at 5:26:04 PM UTC-8, wrote: On Mon, 23 Feb 2015 18:39:17 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 23 Feb 2015 16:16:32 -0500, John H. wrote: Seems to be true of pretty much all the AR type guns. Bragging rights. About what, I don't know. === They are actually a decent hunting rifle for anything up to the size of a wild boar or so. With the right bullet it would certainly take down wood chucks and you could take the head off a turkey. I am sure a deer would bleed out without too much of a chase but I think I would want something a tad heavier if I was shooting at a ****ed off 400 pound tusker coming at me.. I wouldn't want to try to tap one charging at me either. A 12g. slug would be more suitable for that task. but It would easily take a wild boar down if you casually whacked it. Especially if you could get the pig behind the ear. That is what the rangers carry. Pump guns with 7 shot tubes and slugs. Guys also use 308/30-06 class rifles. no disagreement from me. But if a person was confronted with a head on charger, then 12g. with steel buckshot might be the wisest choice. What do I know though. I've never huntd hog. |
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On Mon, 23 Feb 2015 20:28:57 -0500, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 23 Feb 2015 18:55:56 -0500, John H. wrote: On Mon, 23 Feb 2015 18:39:17 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 23 Feb 2015 16:16:32 -0500, John H. wrote: Seems to be true of pretty much all the AR type guns. Bragging rights. About what, I don't know. === They are astually a decent hunting rifle for anything up to the size of a wild boar or so. Would that not be true of the Ruger Mini-14 also? === I'd certainly think so but the question was about AR-15 types. I think a lot of states limit hunting guns to a 5 round magazine so that could be an issue either way. I'm thinking that most of the folks who would use the AR style for hunting wouldn't be loading it up with enough accessories to take on ISIS singlehandedly. -- Guns don't cause problems. The behavior of certain gun owners causes problems. |
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On 2/24/15 8:32 AM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 23 Feb 2015 20:28:57 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 23 Feb 2015 18:55:56 -0500, John H. wrote: On Mon, 23 Feb 2015 18:39:17 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 23 Feb 2015 16:16:32 -0500, John H. wrote: Seems to be true of pretty much all the AR type guns. Bragging rights. About what, I don't know. === They are astually a decent hunting rifle for anything up to the size of a wild boar or so. Would that not be true of the Ruger Mini-14 also? === I'd certainly think so but the question was about AR-15 types. I think a lot of states limit hunting guns to a 5 round magazine so that could be an issue either way. I'm thinking that most of the folks who would use the AR style for hunting wouldn't be loading it up with enough accessories to take on ISIS singlehandedly. I don't know why anyone would want to hunt with an AR, but there are plenty of "hunting legal" rifle mags for it in five round capacity. Brownell's has some: http://tinyurl.com/palmdut -- Proud to be a Liberal. |
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On Tue, 24 Feb 2015 08:36:22 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote: I don't know why anyone would want to hunt with an AR === Short; light weight; easy to carry; lots of fire power; accurate. Other than that, I can't think of any reasons either. |
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John H. wrote:
On Mon, 23 Feb 2015 09:40:28 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: I changed the subject line, since as originally posted it had nothing to do with me or my interests. I forgot which moron started it. On 2/23/15 9:27 AM, John H. wrote: On Sun, 22 Feb 2015 22:48:16 -0500, wrote: On Sun, 22 Feb 2015 22:22:17 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Sun, 22 Feb 2015 21:21:54 -0500, wrote: On Sun, 22 Feb 2015 20:21:00 -0500, John H. wrote: 3 Ways to Stop the .223/5.56 (M855) Ammunition Ban http://blog.cheaperthandirt.com/3-wa...pthe223m855ban They make is sound like most rifle bullets will not go through both sides of the level III-A vest.. You really need a ballistic plate to stop a rifle and even then, not all rifles. === Are there any handguns set up for the .223/5.56 (M855) round? Several but this may be ugly enough to attract their attention http://www.impactguns.com/kel-tec-pl...832000375.aspx Wow, hadn't seen that one yet. For 'target shooting and hunting'. Wonder how long before someone sells a front handgrip for the thing. Whoops. Should have known: http://snakeriverarms.com/wp-content..._10150_1_7.JPG I'd heard narcissism's a bitch. He's proof of that. |
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Tim wrote:
On Sunday, February 22, 2015 at 7:48:27 PM UTC-8, wrote: On Sun, 22 Feb 2015 22:22:17 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Sun, 22 Feb 2015 21:21:54 -0500, wrote: On Sun, 22 Feb 2015 20:21:00 -0500, John H. wrote: 3 Ways to Stop the .223/5.56 (M855) Ammunition Ban http://blog.cheaperthandirt.com/3-wa...pthe223m855ban They make is sound like most rifle bullets will not go through both sides of the level III-A vest.. You really need a ballistic plate to stop a rifle and even then, not all rifles. === Are there any handguns set up for the .223/5.56 (M855) round? Several but this may be ugly enough to attract their attention http://www.impactguns.com/kel-tec-pl...832000375.aspx Only other one I can think of is a single shot Thompson Contender http://media.liveauctiongroup.net/i/...CC887D551CAEF0 I have this one with the rail on top... http://www.swissarms.ch/en/SG_553_P.html |
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Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/23/15 11:08 AM, wrote: On Mon, 23 Feb 2015 07:07:39 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: Greg you're right but I'm thinking more of a dedicated pistol instead of a cut down bullpup This is just a way to sidestep the ATF short barrel rifle law. You notice they call those stumpy stocks a "brace" too. Some of these things accept AR style accessories so you could put a telescoping M4 shoulder stock on most of them but you are then making a "hold your nose legal" gun illegal. I think they make these things, just because they can and I am not really sure what they are good for. One of the guys I occasionally see out in Virginia has one of those AR type pistols. I shot a few rounds out of it once. I agree...I have no idea what they are good for, aside from bragging rights. You live for bragging rights. It's been displayed here ad nauseam. |
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On 2/25/2015 8:45 PM, Someone wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote: On 2/23/15 11:08 AM, wrote: On Mon, 23 Feb 2015 07:07:39 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: Greg you're right but I'm thinking more of a dedicated pistol instead of a cut down bullpup This is just a way to sidestep the ATF short barrel rifle law. You notice they call those stumpy stocks a "brace" too. Some of these things accept AR style accessories so you could put a telescoping M4 shoulder stock on most of them but you are then making a "hold your nose legal" gun illegal. I think they make these things, just because they can and I am not really sure what they are good for. One of the guys I occasionally see out in Virginia has one of those AR type pistols. I shot a few rounds out of it once. I agree...I have no idea what they are good for, aside from bragging rights. You live for bragging rights. It's been displayed here ad nauseam. Don't you guys get it.. he's just thinking about "getting one" which of course means he will read up on it and write us all fantastic stories of himself shooting it at exploding bottles.. |
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On Wed, 25 Feb 2015 20:43:21 -0500, Someone wrote:
Tim wrote: On Sunday, February 22, 2015 at 7:48:27 PM UTC-8, wrote: On Sun, 22 Feb 2015 22:22:17 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Sun, 22 Feb 2015 21:21:54 -0500, wrote: On Sun, 22 Feb 2015 20:21:00 -0500, John H. wrote: 3 Ways to Stop the .223/5.56 (M855) Ammunition Ban http://blog.cheaperthandirt.com/3-wa...pthe223m855ban They make is sound like most rifle bullets will not go through both sides of the level III-A vest.. You really need a ballistic plate to stop a rifle and even then, not all rifles. === Are there any handguns set up for the .223/5.56 (M855) round? Several but this may be ugly enough to attract their attention http://www.impactguns.com/kel-tec-pl...832000375.aspx Only other one I can think of is a single shot Thompson Contender http://media.liveauctiongroup.net/i/...CC887D551CAEF0 I have this one with the rail on top... http://www.swissarms.ch/en/SG_553_P.html I especially like that it's qualified in all combat zones! Hell, you can take that puppy to northern Canada and do some serious goose shooting. -- Guns don't cause problems. The behavior of certain gun owners causes problems. |
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On Wed, 25 Feb 2015 20:45:20 -0500, Someone wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote: On 2/23/15 11:08 AM, wrote: On Mon, 23 Feb 2015 07:07:39 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: Greg you're right but I'm thinking more of a dedicated pistol instead of a cut down bullpup This is just a way to sidestep the ATF short barrel rifle law. You notice they call those stumpy stocks a "brace" too. Some of these things accept AR style accessories so you could put a telescoping M4 shoulder stock on most of them but you are then making a "hold your nose legal" gun illegal. I think they make these things, just because they can and I am not really sure what they are good for. One of the guys I occasionally see out in Virginia has one of those AR type pistols. I shot a few rounds out of it once. I agree...I have no idea what they are good for, aside from bragging rights. You live for bragging rights. It's been displayed here ad nauseam. He'll be showing us pictures of 'his' soon enough. -- Guns don't cause problems. The behavior of certain gun owners causes problems. |
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On 2/26/15 7:07 AM, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 25 Feb 2015 20:43:21 -0500, Someone wrote: Tim wrote: On Sunday, February 22, 2015 at 7:48:27 PM UTC-8, wrote: On Sun, 22 Feb 2015 22:22:17 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Sun, 22 Feb 2015 21:21:54 -0500, wrote: On Sun, 22 Feb 2015 20:21:00 -0500, John H. wrote: 3 Ways to Stop the .223/5.56 (M855) Ammunition Ban http://blog.cheaperthandirt.com/3-wa...pthe223m855ban They make is sound like most rifle bullets will not go through both sides of the level III-A vest.. You really need a ballistic plate to stop a rifle and even then, not all rifles. === Are there any handguns set up for the .223/5.56 (M855) round? Several but this may be ugly enough to attract their attention http://www.impactguns.com/kel-tec-pl...832000375.aspx Only other one I can think of is a single shot Thompson Contender http://media.liveauctiongroup.net/i/...CC887D551CAEF0 I have this one with the rail on top... http://www.swissarms.ch/en/SG_553_P.html I especially like that it's qualified in all combat zones! Hell, you can take that puppy to northern Canada and do some serious goose shooting. Perhaps you could cut down one of your many Mosin Nagents into a useful pistol length and use it to hunt squirrels and chipmunks for your lovely wife to skin and cook with taters, carrots, and onions as you travel state to state towing your RV. Or you could buy one of these, ready made for the task, and a lot easier for someone like you to shoot: http://www.ruger.com/products/22Charger/models.html -- Proud to be a Liberal. |
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On 2/26/15 7:08 AM, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 25 Feb 2015 20:45:20 -0500, Someone wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: On 2/23/15 11:08 AM, wrote: On Mon, 23 Feb 2015 07:07:39 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: Greg you're right but I'm thinking more of a dedicated pistol instead of a cut down bullpup This is just a way to sidestep the ATF short barrel rifle law. You notice they call those stumpy stocks a "brace" too. Some of these things accept AR style accessories so you could put a telescoping M4 shoulder stock on most of them but you are then making a "hold your nose legal" gun illegal. I think they make these things, just because they can and I am not really sure what they are good for. One of the guys I occasionally see out in Virginia has one of those AR type pistols. I shot a few rounds out of it once. I agree...I have no idea what they are good for, aside from bragging rights. You live for bragging rights. It's been displayed here ad nauseam. He'll be showing us pictures of 'his' soon enough. Mine still works, John. -- Proud to be a Liberal. |
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John H. wrote:
On Wed, 25 Feb 2015 20:43:21 -0500, Someone wrote: Tim wrote: On Sunday, February 22, 2015 at 7:48:27 PM UTC-8, wrote: On Sun, 22 Feb 2015 22:22:17 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Sun, 22 Feb 2015 21:21:54 -0500, wrote: On Sun, 22 Feb 2015 20:21:00 -0500, John H. wrote: 3 Ways to Stop the .223/5.56 (M855) Ammunition Ban http://blog.cheaperthandirt.com/3-wa...pthe223m855ban They make is sound like most rifle bullets will not go through both sides of the level III-A vest.. You really need a ballistic plate to stop a rifle and even then, not all rifles. === Are there any handguns set up for the .223/5.56 (M855) round? Several but this may be ugly enough to attract their attention http://www.impactguns.com/kel-tec-pl...832000375.aspx Only other one I can think of is a single shot Thompson Contender http://media.liveauctiongroup.net/i/...CC887D551CAEF0 I have this one with the rail on top... http://www.swissarms.ch/en/SG_553_P.html I especially like that it's qualified in all combat zones! Hell, you can take that puppy to northern Canada and do some serious goose shooting. It's value has increased by $1000 since I bought it so I haven't fired it. If the price keeps going up I might sell it. It the price levels off it's going to the range! |
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John H. wrote:
On Wed, 25 Feb 2015 20:43:21 -0500, Someone wrote: Tim wrote: On Sunday, February 22, 2015 at 7:48:27 PM UTC-8, wrote: On Sun, 22 Feb 2015 22:22:17 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Sun, 22 Feb 2015 21:21:54 -0500, wrote: On Sun, 22 Feb 2015 20:21:00 -0500, John H. wrote: 3 Ways to Stop the .223/5.56 (M855) Ammunition Ban http://blog.cheaperthandirt.com/3-wa...pthe223m855ban They make is sound like most rifle bullets will not go through both sides of the level III-A vest.. You really need a ballistic plate to stop a rifle and even then, not all rifles. === Are there any handguns set up for the .223/5.56 (M855) round? Several but this may be ugly enough to attract their attention http://www.impactguns.com/kel-tec-pl...832000375.aspx Only other one I can think of is a single shot Thompson Contender http://media.liveauctiongroup.net/i/...CC887D551CAEF0 I have this one with the rail on top... http://www.swissarms.ch/en/SG_553_P.html I especially like that it's qualified in all combat zones! Hell, you can take that puppy to northern Canada and do some serious goose shooting. Here's the same model. I'm glad I bought it when I did! http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...=470455632#PIC |
Krause - Protect your rights
John H. wrote:
On Wed, 25 Feb 2015 20:45:20 -0500, Someone wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: On 2/23/15 11:08 AM, wrote: On Mon, 23 Feb 2015 07:07:39 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: Greg you're right but I'm thinking more of a dedicated pistol instead of a cut down bullpup This is just a way to sidestep the ATF short barrel rifle law. You notice they call those stumpy stocks a "brace" too. Some of these things accept AR style accessories so you could put a telescoping M4 shoulder stock on most of them but you are then making a "hold your nose legal" gun illegal. I think they make these things, just because they can and I am not really sure what they are good for. One of the guys I occasionally see out in Virginia has one of those AR type pistols. I shot a few rounds out of it once. I agree...I have no idea what they are good for, aside from bragging rights. You live for bragging rights. It's been displayed here ad nauseam. He'll be showing us pictures of 'his' soon enough. Not now that you predicted it! |
Krause - Protect your rights
On Thu, 26 Feb 2015 19:44:07 -0500, Someone wrote:
John H. wrote: On Wed, 25 Feb 2015 20:43:21 -0500, Someone wrote: Tim wrote: On Sunday, February 22, 2015 at 7:48:27 PM UTC-8, wrote: On Sun, 22 Feb 2015 22:22:17 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Sun, 22 Feb 2015 21:21:54 -0500, wrote: On Sun, 22 Feb 2015 20:21:00 -0500, John H. wrote: 3 Ways to Stop the .223/5.56 (M855) Ammunition Ban http://blog.cheaperthandirt.com/3-wa...pthe223m855ban They make is sound like most rifle bullets will not go through both sides of the level III-A vest.. You really need a ballistic plate to stop a rifle and even then, not all rifles. === Are there any handguns set up for the .223/5.56 (M855) round? Several but this may be ugly enough to attract their attention http://www.impactguns.com/kel-tec-pl...832000375.aspx Only other one I can think of is a single shot Thompson Contender http://media.liveauctiongroup.net/i/...CC887D551CAEF0 I have this one with the rail on top... http://www.swissarms.ch/en/SG_553_P.html I especially like that it's qualified in all combat zones! Hell, you can take that puppy to northern Canada and do some serious goose shooting. Here's the same model. I'm glad I bought it when I did! http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...=470455632#PIC Good for you! Have you decided on that other matter we discussed yet? -- Guns don't cause problems. The behavior of certain gun owners causes problems. |
Krause - Protect your rights
On Thu, 26 Feb 2015 19:45:18 -0500, Someone wrote:
John H. wrote: On Wed, 25 Feb 2015 20:45:20 -0500, Someone wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: On 2/23/15 11:08 AM, wrote: On Mon, 23 Feb 2015 07:07:39 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: Greg you're right but I'm thinking more of a dedicated pistol instead of a cut down bullpup This is just a way to sidestep the ATF short barrel rifle law. You notice they call those stumpy stocks a "brace" too. Some of these things accept AR style accessories so you could put a telescoping M4 shoulder stock on most of them but you are then making a "hold your nose legal" gun illegal. I think they make these things, just because they can and I am not really sure what they are good for. One of the guys I occasionally see out in Virginia has one of those AR type pistols. I shot a few rounds out of it once. I agree...I have no idea what they are good for, aside from bragging rights. You live for bragging rights. It's been displayed here ad nauseam. He'll be showing us pictures of 'his' soon enough. Not now that you predicted it! His will be much better than a Sig Sauer. -- Guns don't cause problems. The behavior of certain gun owners causes problems. |
Krause - Protect your rights
On 2/27/15 8:11 AM, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 26 Feb 2015 19:45:18 -0500, Someone wrote: John H. wrote: On Wed, 25 Feb 2015 20:45:20 -0500, Someone wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: On 2/23/15 11:08 AM, wrote: On Mon, 23 Feb 2015 07:07:39 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: Greg you're right but I'm thinking more of a dedicated pistol instead of a cut down bullpup This is just a way to sidestep the ATF short barrel rifle law. You notice they call those stumpy stocks a "brace" too. Some of these things accept AR style accessories so you could put a telescoping M4 shoulder stock on most of them but you are then making a "hold your nose legal" gun illegal. I think they make these things, just because they can and I am not really sure what they are good for. One of the guys I occasionally see out in Virginia has one of those AR type pistols. I shot a few rounds out of it once. I agree...I have no idea what they are good for, aside from bragging rights. You live for bragging rights. It's been displayed here ad nauseam. He'll be showing us pictures of 'his' soon enough. Not now that you predicted it! His will be much better than a Sig Sauer. SIG makes some fine firearms, but I found another brand more accurate in 9 mm. -- Proud to be a Liberal. |
Krause - Protect your rights
On 2/27/2015 9:43 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/27/15 8:11 AM, John H. wrote: On Thu, 26 Feb 2015 19:45:18 -0500, Someone wrote: John H. wrote: On Wed, 25 Feb 2015 20:45:20 -0500, Someone wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: On 2/23/15 11:08 AM, wrote: On Mon, 23 Feb 2015 07:07:39 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: Greg you're right but I'm thinking more of a dedicated pistol instead of a cut down bullpup This is just a way to sidestep the ATF short barrel rifle law. You notice they call those stumpy stocks a "brace" too. Some of these things accept AR style accessories so you could put a telescoping M4 shoulder stock on most of them but you are then making a "hold your nose legal" gun illegal. I think they make these things, just because they can and I am not really sure what they are good for. One of the guys I occasionally see out in Virginia has one of those AR type pistols. I shot a few rounds out of it once. I agree...I have no idea what they are good for, aside from bragging rights. You live for bragging rights. It's been displayed here ad nauseam. He'll be showing us pictures of 'his' soon enough. Not now that you predicted it! His will be much better than a Sig Sauer. SIG makes some fine firearms, but I found another brand more accurate in 9 mm. Did you really? That's a pretty broad stroke you brush. It's really too dumb a statement to call it an outright lie. -- Respectfully submitted by Justan Laugh of the day from Krause "I'm not to blame anymore for the atmosphere in here. I've been "born again" as a nice guy." |
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