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John H.[_5_] February 27th 15 05:30 PM

Krause - Protect your rights
 
On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 11:41:23 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote:

On 2/27/2015 9:43 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/27/15 8:11 AM, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 26 Feb 2015 19:45:18 -0500, Someone
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Wed, 25 Feb 2015 20:45:20 -0500, Someone
wrote:

Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/23/15 11:08 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 23 Feb 2015 07:07:39 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

Greg you're right but I'm thinking more of a dedicated pistol
instead of a cut down bullpup
This is just a way to sidestep the ATF short barrel rifle law. You
notice they call those stumpy stocks a "brace" too. Some of these
things accept AR style accessories so you could put a telescoping M4
shoulder stock on most of them but you are then making a "hold your
nose legal" gun illegal.
I think they make these things, just because they can and I am not
really sure what they are good for.

One of the guys I occasionally see out in Virginia has one of
those AR
type pistols. I shot a few rounds out of it once. I agree...I have no
idea what they are good for, aside from bragging rights.

You live for bragging rights. It's been displayed here ad nauseam.
He'll be showing us pictures of 'his' soon enough.
Not now that you predicted it!

His will be much better than a Sig Sauer.


SIG makes some fine firearms, but I found another brand more accurate in
9 mm.

Did you really? That's a pretty broad stroke you brush. It's really too
dumb a statement to call it an outright lie.


He knows I own a couple Sigs.

And remember, he owned the most expensive Sig pistol made. Of course, the CZ 75 was
much more accurate.
--

Guns don't cause problems. The behavior
of certain gun owners causes problems.

Wayne.B February 27th 15 06:44 PM

Krause - Protect your rights
 
On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 12:30:55 -0500, John H.
wrote:

Of course, the CZ 75 was
much more accurate.


===

Until he sold it. Then it was dog poop. :-)

Keyser Söze February 27th 15 07:15 PM

Krause - Protect your rights
 
On 2/27/15 12:30 PM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 11:41:23 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote:

On 2/27/2015 9:43 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/27/15 8:11 AM, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 26 Feb 2015 19:45:18 -0500, Someone
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Wed, 25 Feb 2015 20:45:20 -0500, Someone
wrote:

Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/23/15 11:08 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 23 Feb 2015 07:07:39 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

Greg you're right but I'm thinking more of a dedicated pistol
instead of a cut down bullpup
This is just a way to sidestep the ATF short barrel rifle law. You
notice they call those stumpy stocks a "brace" too. Some of these
things accept AR style accessories so you could put a telescoping M4
shoulder stock on most of them but you are then making a "hold your
nose legal" gun illegal.
I think they make these things, just because they can and I am not
really sure what they are good for.

One of the guys I occasionally see out in Virginia has one of
those AR
type pistols. I shot a few rounds out of it once. I agree...I have no
idea what they are good for, aside from bragging rights.

You live for bragging rights. It's been displayed here ad nauseam.
He'll be showing us pictures of 'his' soon enough.
Not now that you predicted it!

His will be much better than a Sig Sauer.


SIG makes some fine firearms, but I found another brand more accurate in
9 mm.

Did you really? That's a pretty broad stroke you brush. It's really too
dumb a statement to call it an outright lie.


He knows I own a couple Sigs.

And remember, he owned the most expensive Sig pistol made. Of course, the CZ 75 was
much more accurate.


I bought, used, competed with and sold my SIG X5 before, I believe, you
had *any* SIGs. It was a fine firearm, but for me and many other
competitors, the competition, custom CZ SP01 Shadow was a faster cycler
and more accurate.

Despite what you think, the world is not about you and your inability to
shoot the firearms you own.

--
Proud to be a Liberal.

Keyser Söze February 27th 15 09:34 PM

Krause - Protect your rights
 
On 2/27/15 4:27 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 14:15:15 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 2/27/15 12:30 PM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 11:41:23 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote:

On 2/27/2015 9:43 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/27/15 8:11 AM, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 26 Feb 2015 19:45:18 -0500, Someone
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Wed, 25 Feb 2015 20:45:20 -0500, Someone
wrote:

Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/23/15 11:08 AM,
wrote:
On Mon, 23 Feb 2015 07:07:39 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

Greg you're right but I'm thinking more of a dedicated pistol
instead of a cut down bullpup
This is just a way to sidestep the ATF short barrel rifle law. You
notice they call those stumpy stocks a "brace" too. Some of these
things accept AR style accessories so you could put a telescoping M4
shoulder stock on most of them but you are then making a "hold your
nose legal" gun illegal.
I think they make these things, just because they can and I am not
really sure what they are good for.

One of the guys I occasionally see out in Virginia has one of
those AR
type pistols. I shot a few rounds out of it once. I agree...I have no
idea what they are good for, aside from bragging rights.

You live for bragging rights. It's been displayed here ad nauseam.
He'll be showing us pictures of 'his' soon enough.
Not now that you predicted it!

His will be much better than a Sig Sauer.


SIG makes some fine firearms, but I found another brand more accurate in
9 mm.

Did you really? That's a pretty broad stroke you brush. It's really too
dumb a statement to call it an outright lie.

He knows I own a couple Sigs.

And remember, he owned the most expensive Sig pistol made. Of course, the CZ 75 was
much more accurate.


I bought, used, competed with and sold my SIG X5 before, I believe, you
had *any* SIGs. It was a fine firearm, but for me and many other
competitors, the competition, custom CZ SP01 Shadow was a faster cycler
and more accurate.

Despite what you think, the world is not about you and your inability to
shoot the firearms you own.


I doubt there is anyone here who can outshoot any name brand gun,
right out of the box.



I didn't say that, did I.
I said I found the CZ more accurate in 9 mm, and a faster cycler.

Some of you boys really ought to take remedial courses on the meaning of
words and phrases.




--
Proud to be a Liberal.

Wayne.B February 27th 15 10:42 PM

Krause - Protect your rights
 
On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 16:34:54 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Some of you boys really ought to take remedial courses on the meaning of
words and phrases.


===

Why would we need to do that when we have a cunning linguist like you
in our midst?

Someone February 28th 15 01:31 AM

Krause - Protect your rights
 
John H. wrote:
On Thu, 26 Feb 2015 19:44:07 -0500, Someone wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Wed, 25 Feb 2015 20:43:21 -0500, Someone wrote:

Tim wrote:
On Sunday, February 22, 2015 at 7:48:27 PM UTC-8, wrote:
On Sun, 22 Feb 2015 22:22:17 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 22 Feb 2015 21:21:54 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 22 Feb 2015 20:21:00 -0500, John H.
wrote:

3 Ways to Stop the .223/5.56 (M855) Ammunition Ban

http://blog.cheaperthandirt.com/3-wa...pthe223m855ban
They make is sound like most rifle bullets will not go through both
sides of the level III-A vest..
You really need a ballistic plate to stop a rifle and even then, not
all rifles.
===

Are there any handguns set up for the .223/5.56 (M855) round?

Several but this may be ugly enough to attract their attention
http://www.impactguns.com/kel-tec-pl...832000375.aspx
Only other one I can think of is a single shot Thompson Contender

http://media.liveauctiongroup.net/i/...CC887D551CAEF0
I have this one with the rail on top...

http://www.swissarms.ch/en/SG_553_P.html
I especially like that it's qualified in all combat zones! Hell, you can take that
puppy to northern Canada and do some serious goose shooting.


Here's the same model. I'm glad I bought it when I did!

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...=470455632#PIC

Good for you!

Have you decided on that other matter we discussed yet?

Not yet. I'm going to do some research over the weekend.


Someone February 28th 15 01:32 AM

Krause - Protect your rights
 
John H. wrote:
On Thu, 26 Feb 2015 19:45:18 -0500, Someone wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Wed, 25 Feb 2015 20:45:20 -0500, Someone wrote:

Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/23/15 11:08 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 23 Feb 2015 07:07:39 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

Greg you're right but I'm thinking more of a dedicated pistol
instead of a cut down bullpup
This is just a way to sidestep the ATF short barrel rifle law. You
notice they call those stumpy stocks a "brace" too. Some of these
things accept AR style accessories so you could put a telescoping M4
shoulder stock on most of them but you are then making a "hold your
nose legal" gun illegal.
I think they make these things, just because they can and I am not
really sure what they are good for.

One of the guys I occasionally see out in Virginia has one of those AR
type pistols. I shot a few rounds out of it once. I agree...I have no
idea what they are good for, aside from bragging rights.

You live for bragging rights. It's been displayed here ad nauseam.
He'll be showing us pictures of 'his' soon enough.

Not now that you predicted it!

His will be much better than a Sig Sauer.

Of course!


Someone February 28th 15 01:42 AM

Herring's fantasy - Protect your rights
 
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/26/15 7:07 AM, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 25 Feb 2015 20:43:21 -0500, Someone
wrote:

Tim wrote:
On Sunday, February 22, 2015 at 7:48:27 PM UTC-8,
wrote:
On Sun, 22 Feb 2015 22:22:17 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 22 Feb 2015 21:21:54 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 22 Feb 2015 20:21:00 -0500, John H.
wrote:

3 Ways to Stop the .223/5.56 (M855) Ammunition Ban

http://blog.cheaperthandirt.com/3-wa...pthe223m855ban

They make is sound like most rifle bullets will not go through both
sides of the level III-A vest..
You really need a ballistic plate to stop a rifle and even then,
not
all rifles.
===

Are there any handguns set up for the .223/5.56 (M855) round?

Several but this may be ugly enough to attract their attention
http://www.impactguns.com/kel-tec-pl...832000375.aspx

Only other one I can think of is a single shot Thompson Contender

http://media.liveauctiongroup.net/i/...CC887D551CAEF0

I have this one with the rail on top...

http://www.swissarms.ch/en/SG_553_P.html


I especially like that it's qualified in all combat zones! Hell, you
can take that
puppy to northern Canada and do some serious goose shooting.


Perhaps you could cut down one of your many Mosin Nagents into a
useful pistol length and use it to hunt squirrels and chipmunks for
your lovely wife to skin and cook with taters, carrots, and onions as
you travel state to state towing your RV.

Or you could buy one of these, ready made for the task, and a lot
easier for someone like you to shoot:

http://www.ruger.com/products/22Charger/models.html



The original with the all-wood stock is much nicer. I'm glad I grabbed
one when they were still available new.

http://www.realguns.com/articles/331.htm

John H.[_5_] February 28th 15 01:58 PM

Herring's fantasy - Protect your rights
 
On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 20:42:30 -0500, Someone wrote:

Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/26/15 7:07 AM, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 25 Feb 2015 20:43:21 -0500, Someone
wrote:

Tim wrote:
On Sunday, February 22, 2015 at 7:48:27 PM UTC-8,
wrote:
On Sun, 22 Feb 2015 22:22:17 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 22 Feb 2015 21:21:54 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 22 Feb 2015 20:21:00 -0500, John H.
wrote:

3 Ways to Stop the .223/5.56 (M855) Ammunition Ban

http://blog.cheaperthandirt.com/3-wa...pthe223m855ban

They make is sound like most rifle bullets will not go through both
sides of the level III-A vest..
You really need a ballistic plate to stop a rifle and even then,
not
all rifles.
===

Are there any handguns set up for the .223/5.56 (M855) round?

Several but this may be ugly enough to attract their attention
http://www.impactguns.com/kel-tec-pl...832000375.aspx

Only other one I can think of is a single shot Thompson Contender

http://media.liveauctiongroup.net/i/...CC887D551CAEF0

I have this one with the rail on top...

http://www.swissarms.ch/en/SG_553_P.html

I especially like that it's qualified in all combat zones! Hell, you
can take that
puppy to northern Canada and do some serious goose shooting.


Perhaps you could cut down one of your many Mosin Nagents into a
useful pistol length and use it to hunt squirrels and chipmunks for
your lovely wife to skin and cook with taters, carrots, and onions as
you travel state to state towing your RV.

Or you could buy one of these, ready made for the task, and a lot
easier for someone like you to shoot:

http://www.ruger.com/products/22Charger/models.html



The original with the all-wood stock is much nicer. I'm glad I grabbed
one when they were still available new.

http://www.realguns.com/articles/331.htm


I like the belly rub shot at the end of the article. If I were a collector, I'd want
one. It definitely looks much nicer than the one posted by Krause.

Cool buy.
--

Guns don't cause problems. The behavior
of certain gun owners causes problems.

Keyser Söze February 28th 15 02:13 PM

Herring's fantasy - Protect your rights
 
On 2/28/15 8:58 AM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 20:42:30 -0500, Someone wrote:

Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/26/15 7:07 AM, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 25 Feb 2015 20:43:21 -0500, Someone
wrote:

Tim wrote:
On Sunday, February 22, 2015 at 7:48:27 PM UTC-8,
wrote:
On Sun, 22 Feb 2015 22:22:17 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 22 Feb 2015 21:21:54 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 22 Feb 2015 20:21:00 -0500, John H.
wrote:

3 Ways to Stop the .223/5.56 (M855) Ammunition Ban

http://blog.cheaperthandirt.com/3-wa...pthe223m855ban

They make is sound like most rifle bullets will not go through both
sides of the level III-A vest..
You really need a ballistic plate to stop a rifle and even then,
not
all rifles.
===

Are there any handguns set up for the .223/5.56 (M855) round?

Several but this may be ugly enough to attract their attention
http://www.impactguns.com/kel-tec-pl...832000375.aspx

Only other one I can think of is a single shot Thompson Contender

http://media.liveauctiongroup.net/i/...CC887D551CAEF0

I have this one with the rail on top...

http://www.swissarms.ch/en/SG_553_P.html

I especially like that it's qualified in all combat zones! Hell, you
can take that
puppy to northern Canada and do some serious goose shooting.

Perhaps you could cut down one of your many Mosin Nagents into a
useful pistol length and use it to hunt squirrels and chipmunks for
your lovely wife to skin and cook with taters, carrots, and onions as
you travel state to state towing your RV.

Or you could buy one of these, ready made for the task, and a lot
easier for someone like you to shoot:

http://www.ruger.com/products/22Charger/models.html



The original with the all-wood stock is much nicer. I'm glad I grabbed
one when they were still available new.

http://www.realguns.com/articles/331.htm


I like the belly rub shot at the end of the article. If I were a collector, I'd want
one. It definitely looks much nicer than the one posted by Krause.

Cool buy.



The current production charger has some changes from the discontinued
one, including a "standard" AR grip, which means the grip may be changed
to one you like better. It also includes the new BX trigger, a 2-1/2
pound, crisper trigger.



--
Proud to be a Liberal.


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