On Fire for the Lord!
 

On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 16:31:31 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 16:23:28 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/19/15 4:16 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 15:07:55 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 2/19/15 2:34 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 13:47:29 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 2/19/15 1:31 PM, wrote:

Yell us again about your gun harry. It seems to be your only interest
beyond working.


I don't discuss my work or most of my non-work interests here in
rec.boats. What's the point?

Then why all of the gun stories? It is ironic that you seem to be the
most committed gun nut here and you are arguing how dangerous they
are. Considering the one you brag about the most was designed as an
implement of war to kill as many people as possible in the shortest
amount of time, your rage against the gun seems disingenuous at best.


My recognition and appreciation of the fact that firearms are inherently
dangerous qualifies me as a gun owner and hobbyist, n'est-ce pas?

I'm hardly a gun nut. I believe the current interpretation of the 2nd
Amendment grossly and incorrectly states the position of the founders on
firearms. I think all firearms should be registered, that all sales
should have a paper trail, that all gun owners be qualified by mandatory
training, that all firearms should be kept away from minors. I suggest
that those who believe otherwise are the gun nuts. You, Herring, and
Wayne are the gun nuts.

I do own an AR-15 and aside from the fact it doesn't have an autofire
mode, it is pretty much the same as many that have been issued to
military personnel. I have disassembled the rifle down to the smallest
pin and spring, replaced some parts and reassembled it properly. I do
not strap it on and walk down the streets with it, nor would I wear it
into Target or a fast food restaurant. When I am not using it, it lives
in a safe. When I take it out of the safe, it is either to modify
something or to take it to the range. Hardly the behavior of a gun nut.

Oh, and if a kid takes a parent's gun to school and shoots people, I
think the kid's parents should face criminal penalties.

Hardly the position of a gun nut.

So, once again, you are wrong.

Un Huh.

You are certainly working overtime to rationalize your obsession with
your guns. Other than ad hominem attacks on other posters, it is the
only thing you talk about.


Well, this isn't a venue where I'd discuss anything of real significance
to me. Too many snarky assholes.

There's a bozo with a bin called 'Bozo's Bin' into which the snarky folks could be
dumped. Then you'd just hear from those who love you, need you, and want you.

===

I'm thinking that the alleged Bozo's Bin must be rapidly approaching a
critical mass where we could think about getting together and throwing
a party. We could throw darts and play pin the tail on the donkey.

On Fire for the Lord!
 

On 2/19/15 4:31 PM, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 16:23:28 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/19/15 4:16 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 15:07:55 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 2/19/15 2:34 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 13:47:29 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 2/19/15 1:31 PM, wrote:

Yell us again about your gun harry. It seems to be your only interest
beyond working.


I don't discuss my work or most of my non-work interests here in
rec.boats. What's the point?

Then why all of the gun stories? It is ironic that you seem to be the
most committed gun nut here and you are arguing how dangerous they
are. Considering the one you brag about the most was designed as an
implement of war to kill as many people as possible in the shortest
amount of time, your rage against the gun seems disingenuous at best.


My recognition and appreciation of the fact that firearms are inherently
dangerous qualifies me as a gun owner and hobbyist, n'est-ce pas?

I'm hardly a gun nut. I believe the current interpretation of the 2nd
Amendment grossly and incorrectly states the position of the founders on
firearms. I think all firearms should be registered, that all sales
should have a paper trail, that all gun owners be qualified by mandatory
training, that all firearms should be kept away from minors. I suggest
that those who believe otherwise are the gun nuts. You, Herring, and
Wayne are the gun nuts.

I do own an AR-15 and aside from the fact it doesn't have an autofire
mode, it is pretty much the same as many that have been issued to
military personnel. I have disassembled the rifle down to the smallest
pin and spring, replaced some parts and reassembled it properly. I do
not strap it on and walk down the streets with it, nor would I wear it
into Target or a fast food restaurant. When I am not using it, it lives
in a safe. When I take it out of the safe, it is either to modify
something or to take it to the range. Hardly the behavior of a gun nut.

Oh, and if a kid takes a parent's gun to school and shoots people, I
think the kid's parents should face criminal penalties.

Hardly the position of a gun nut.

So, once again, you are wrong.

Un Huh.

You are certainly working overtime to rationalize your obsession with
your guns. Other than ad hominem attacks on other posters, it is the
only thing you talk about.


Well, this isn't a venue where I'd discuss anything of real significance
to me. Too many snarky assholes.

There's a bozo with a bin called 'Bozo's Bin' into which the snarky folks could be
dumped. Then you'd just hear from those who love you, need you, and want you.


Is that bozo you, perchance?

I have a bozo bin, not a "Bozo's Bin." It is for the posts from morons
and snarks, and the bozo bin filter sends them there before I see them.
Pretty nifty.


--
Proud to be a Liberal.

On Fire for the Lord!
 

On 2/19/15 4:16 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 15:07:55 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 2/19/15 2:34 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 13:47:29 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 2/19/15 1:31 PM, wrote:

Yell us again about your gun harry. It seems to be your only interest
beyond working.


I don't discuss my work or most of my non-work interests here in
rec.boats. What's the point?

Then why all of the gun stories? It is ironic that you seem to be the
most committed gun nut here and you are arguing how dangerous they
are. Considering the one you brag about the most was designed as an
implement of war to kill as many people as possible in the shortest
amount of time, your rage against the gun seems disingenuous at best.


My recognition and appreciation of the fact that firearms are inherently
dangerous qualifies me as a gun owner and hobbyist, n'est-ce pas?

I'm hardly a gun nut. I believe the current interpretation of the 2nd
Amendment grossly and incorrectly states the position of the founders on
firearms. I think all firearms should be registered, that all sales
should have a paper trail, that all gun owners be qualified by mandatory
training, that all firearms should be kept away from minors. I suggest
that those who believe otherwise are the gun nuts. You, Herring, and
Wayne are the gun nuts.

I do own an AR-15 and aside from the fact it doesn't have an autofire
mode, it is pretty much the same as many that have been issued to
military personnel. I have disassembled the rifle down to the smallest
pin and spring, replaced some parts and reassembled it properly. I do
not strap it on and walk down the streets with it, nor would I wear it
into Target or a fast food restaurant. When I am not using it, it lives
in a safe. When I take it out of the safe, it is either to modify
something or to take it to the range. Hardly the behavior of a gun nut.

Oh, and if a kid takes a parent's gun to school and shoots people, I
think the kid's parents should face criminal penalties.

Hardly the position of a gun nut.

So, once again, you are wrong.

Un Huh.

You are certainly working overtime to rationalize your obsession with
your guns. Other than ad hominem attacks on other posters, it is the
only thing you talk about.


This isn't the place to discuss my involvement with the free trade
movement in Cuba or my interest in an NGO that helps those in third
world countries build sustainable communities and provide for potable
water. I'm not going to discuss my marketing accounts here. That leaves
an innocuous hobby or two to discuss. That's all you get. Oh, I'm also
involved in an internet chess league and a Scrabble tourney that's been
going on for about 23 years.


--
Proud to be a Liberal.

On Fire for the Lord!
 

On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 16:49:54 -0500, Wayne.B wrote:

On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 16:31:31 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 16:23:28 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/19/15 4:16 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 15:07:55 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 2/19/15 2:34 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 13:47:29 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 2/19/15 1:31 PM, wrote:

Yell us again about your gun harry. It seems to be your only interest
beyond working.


I don't discuss my work or most of my non-work interests here in
rec.boats. What's the point?

Then why all of the gun stories? It is ironic that you seem to be the
most committed gun nut here and you are arguing how dangerous they
are. Considering the one you brag about the most was designed as an
implement of war to kill as many people as possible in the shortest
amount of time, your rage against the gun seems disingenuous at best.


My recognition and appreciation of the fact that firearms are inherently
dangerous qualifies me as a gun owner and hobbyist, n'est-ce pas?

I'm hardly a gun nut. I believe the current interpretation of the 2nd
Amendment grossly and incorrectly states the position of the founders on
firearms. I think all firearms should be registered, that all sales
should have a paper trail, that all gun owners be qualified by mandatory
training, that all firearms should be kept away from minors. I suggest
that those who believe otherwise are the gun nuts. You, Herring, and
Wayne are the gun nuts.

I do own an AR-15 and aside from the fact it doesn't have an autofire
mode, it is pretty much the same as many that have been issued to
military personnel. I have disassembled the rifle down to the smallest
pin and spring, replaced some parts and reassembled it properly. I do
not strap it on and walk down the streets with it, nor would I wear it
into Target or a fast food restaurant. When I am not using it, it lives
in a safe. When I take it out of the safe, it is either to modify
something or to take it to the range. Hardly the behavior of a gun nut.

Oh, and if a kid takes a parent's gun to school and shoots people, I
think the kid's parents should face criminal penalties.

Hardly the position of a gun nut.

So, once again, you are wrong.

Un Huh.

You are certainly working overtime to rationalize your obsession with
your guns. Other than ad hominem attacks on other posters, it is the
only thing you talk about.


Well, this isn't a venue where I'd discuss anything of real significance
to me. Too many snarky assholes.

There's a bozo with a bin called 'Bozo's Bin' into which the snarky folks could be
dumped. Then you'd just hear from those who love you, need you, and want you.

===

I'm thinking that the alleged Bozo's Bin must be rapidly approaching a
critical mass where we could think about getting together and throwing
a party. We could throw darts and play pin the tail on the donkey.

Bozo the donkey? Sounds fun.
--

Guns don't cause problems. The behavior
of certain gun owners causes problems.

On Fire for the Lord!
 

On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 17:11:28 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/19/15 4:31 PM, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 16:23:28 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/19/15 4:16 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 15:07:55 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 2/19/15 2:34 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 13:47:29 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 2/19/15 1:31 PM, wrote:

Yell us again about your gun harry. It seems to be your only interest
beyond working.


I don't discuss my work or most of my non-work interests here in
rec.boats. What's the point?

Then why all of the gun stories? It is ironic that you seem to be the
most committed gun nut here and you are arguing how dangerous they
are. Considering the one you brag about the most was designed as an
implement of war to kill as many people as possible in the shortest
amount of time, your rage against the gun seems disingenuous at best.


My recognition and appreciation of the fact that firearms are inherently
dangerous qualifies me as a gun owner and hobbyist, n'est-ce pas?

I'm hardly a gun nut. I believe the current interpretation of the 2nd
Amendment grossly and incorrectly states the position of the founders on
firearms. I think all firearms should be registered, that all sales
should have a paper trail, that all gun owners be qualified by mandatory
training, that all firearms should be kept away from minors. I suggest
that those who believe otherwise are the gun nuts. You, Herring, and
Wayne are the gun nuts.

I do own an AR-15 and aside from the fact it doesn't have an autofire
mode, it is pretty much the same as many that have been issued to
military personnel. I have disassembled the rifle down to the smallest
pin and spring, replaced some parts and reassembled it properly. I do
not strap it on and walk down the streets with it, nor would I wear it
into Target or a fast food restaurant. When I am not using it, it lives
in a safe. When I take it out of the safe, it is either to modify
something or to take it to the range. Hardly the behavior of a gun nut.

Oh, and if a kid takes a parent's gun to school and shoots people, I
think the kid's parents should face criminal penalties.

Hardly the position of a gun nut.

So, once again, you are wrong.

Un Huh.

You are certainly working overtime to rationalize your obsession with
your guns. Other than ad hominem attacks on other posters, it is the
only thing you talk about.


Well, this isn't a venue where I'd discuss anything of real significance
to me. Too many snarky assholes.

There's a bozo with a bin called 'Bozo's Bin' into which the snarky folks could be
dumped. Then you'd just hear from those who love you, need you, and want you.


Is that bozo you, perchance?

I have a bozo bin, not a "Bozo's Bin." It is for the posts from morons
and snarks, and the bozo bin filter sends them there before I see them.
Pretty nifty.

You own 'Bozo's Bin'. Quit trying to deny it. You've just learned the proper
punctuation. Now use it.
--

Guns don't cause problems. The behavior
of certain gun owners causes problems.

On Fire for the Lord!
 

On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 17:20:28 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/19/15 4:16 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 15:07:55 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 2/19/15 2:34 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 13:47:29 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 2/19/15 1:31 PM, wrote:

Yell us again about your gun harry. It seems to be your only interest
beyond working.


I don't discuss my work or most of my non-work interests here in
rec.boats. What's the point?

Then why all of the gun stories? It is ironic that you seem to be the
most committed gun nut here and you are arguing how dangerous they
are. Considering the one you brag about the most was designed as an
implement of war to kill as many people as possible in the shortest
amount of time, your rage against the gun seems disingenuous at best.


My recognition and appreciation of the fact that firearms are inherently
dangerous qualifies me as a gun owner and hobbyist, n'est-ce pas?

I'm hardly a gun nut. I believe the current interpretation of the 2nd
Amendment grossly and incorrectly states the position of the founders on
firearms. I think all firearms should be registered, that all sales
should have a paper trail, that all gun owners be qualified by mandatory
training, that all firearms should be kept away from minors. I suggest
that those who believe otherwise are the gun nuts. You, Herring, and
Wayne are the gun nuts.

I do own an AR-15 and aside from the fact it doesn't have an autofire
mode, it is pretty much the same as many that have been issued to
military personnel. I have disassembled the rifle down to the smallest
pin and spring, replaced some parts and reassembled it properly. I do
not strap it on and walk down the streets with it, nor would I wear it
into Target or a fast food restaurant. When I am not using it, it lives
in a safe. When I take it out of the safe, it is either to modify
something or to take it to the range. Hardly the behavior of a gun nut.

Oh, and if a kid takes a parent's gun to school and shoots people, I
think the kid's parents should face criminal penalties.

Hardly the position of a gun nut.

So, once again, you are wrong.

Un Huh.

You are certainly working overtime to rationalize your obsession with
your guns. Other than ad hominem attacks on other posters, it is the
only thing you talk about.


This isn't the place to discuss my involvement with the free trade
movement in Cuba or my interest in an NGO that helps those in third
world countries build sustainable communities and provide for potable
water. I'm not going to discuss my marketing accounts here. That leaves
an innocuous hobby or two to discuss. That's all you get. Oh, I'm also
involved in an internet chess league and a Scrabble tourney that's been
going on for about 23 years.

Does your back ever get sore?
--

Guns don't cause problems. The behavior
of certain gun owners causes problems.

On Fire for the Lord!
 

On 2/19/15 5:26 PM, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 17:11:28 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/19/15 4:31 PM, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 16:23:28 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/19/15 4:16 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 15:07:55 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 2/19/15 2:34 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 13:47:29 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 2/19/15 1:31 PM, wrote:

Yell us again about your gun harry. It seems to be your only interest
beyond working.


I don't discuss my work or most of my non-work interests here in
rec.boats. What's the point?

Then why all of the gun stories? It is ironic that you seem to be the
most committed gun nut here and you are arguing how dangerous they
are. Considering the one you brag about the most was designed as an
implement of war to kill as many people as possible in the shortest
amount of time, your rage against the gun seems disingenuous at best.


My recognition and appreciation of the fact that firearms are inherently
dangerous qualifies me as a gun owner and hobbyist, n'est-ce pas?

I'm hardly a gun nut. I believe the current interpretation of the 2nd
Amendment grossly and incorrectly states the position of the founders on
firearms. I think all firearms should be registered, that all sales
should have a paper trail, that all gun owners be qualified by mandatory
training, that all firearms should be kept away from minors. I suggest
that those who believe otherwise are the gun nuts. You, Herring, and
Wayne are the gun nuts.

I do own an AR-15 and aside from the fact it doesn't have an autofire
mode, it is pretty much the same as many that have been issued to
military personnel. I have disassembled the rifle down to the smallest
pin and spring, replaced some parts and reassembled it properly. I do
not strap it on and walk down the streets with it, nor would I wear it
into Target or a fast food restaurant. When I am not using it, it lives
in a safe. When I take it out of the safe, it is either to modify
something or to take it to the range. Hardly the behavior of a gun nut.

Oh, and if a kid takes a parent's gun to school and shoots people, I
think the kid's parents should face criminal penalties.

Hardly the position of a gun nut.

So, once again, you are wrong.

Un Huh.

You are certainly working overtime to rationalize your obsession with
your guns. Other than ad hominem attacks on other posters, it is the
only thing you talk about.


Well, this isn't a venue where I'd discuss anything of real significance
to me. Too many snarky assholes.

There's a bozo with a bin called 'Bozo's Bin' into which the snarky folks could be
dumped. Then you'd just hear from those who love you, need you, and want you.


Is that bozo you, perchance?

I have a bozo bin, not a "Bozo's Bin." It is for the posts from morons
and snarks, and the bozo bin filter sends them there before I see them.
Pretty nifty.

You own 'Bozo's Bin'. Quit trying to deny it. You've just learned the proper
punctuation. Now use it.



You were forced out of the army a long time ago. It's time you stopped
barking out moronic orders.


--
Proud to be a Liberal.

On Fire for the Lord!
 

On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 17:20:28 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

This isn't the place to discuss my involvement with the free trade
movement in Cuba or my interest in an NGO that helps those in third
world countries build sustainable communities and provide for potable
water.

===

What a great humanatarian you are!

(in your own mind)

When I get to Cuba I'll ask if anyone knows you. Smuggling a few
cigars does not really qualify as a "free trade movement".

On Fire for the Lord!
 

On 2/19/15 5:27 PM, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 17:20:28 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/19/15 4:16 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 15:07:55 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 2/19/15 2:34 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 13:47:29 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 2/19/15 1:31 PM, wrote:

Yell us again about your gun harry. It seems to be your only interest
beyond working.


I don't discuss my work or most of my non-work interests here in
rec.boats. What's the point?

Then why all of the gun stories? It is ironic that you seem to be the
most committed gun nut here and you are arguing how dangerous they
are. Considering the one you brag about the most was designed as an
implement of war to kill as many people as possible in the shortest
amount of time, your rage against the gun seems disingenuous at best.


My recognition and appreciation of the fact that firearms are inherently
dangerous qualifies me as a gun owner and hobbyist, n'est-ce pas?

I'm hardly a gun nut. I believe the current interpretation of the 2nd
Amendment grossly and incorrectly states the position of the founders on
firearms. I think all firearms should be registered, that all sales
should have a paper trail, that all gun owners be qualified by mandatory
training, that all firearms should be kept away from minors. I suggest
that those who believe otherwise are the gun nuts. You, Herring, and
Wayne are the gun nuts.

I do own an AR-15 and aside from the fact it doesn't have an autofire
mode, it is pretty much the same as many that have been issued to
military personnel. I have disassembled the rifle down to the smallest
pin and spring, replaced some parts and reassembled it properly. I do
not strap it on and walk down the streets with it, nor would I wear it
into Target or a fast food restaurant. When I am not using it, it lives
in a safe. When I take it out of the safe, it is either to modify
something or to take it to the range. Hardly the behavior of a gun nut.

Oh, and if a kid takes a parent's gun to school and shoots people, I
think the kid's parents should face criminal penalties.

Hardly the position of a gun nut.

So, once again, you are wrong.

Un Huh.

You are certainly working overtime to rationalize your obsession with
your guns. Other than ad hominem attacks on other posters, it is the
only thing you talk about.


This isn't the place to discuss my involvement with the free trade
movement in Cuba or my interest in an NGO that helps those in third
world countries build sustainable communities and provide for potable
water. I'm not going to discuss my marketing accounts here. That leaves
an innocuous hobby or two to discuss. That's all you get. Oh, I'm also
involved in an internet chess league and a Scrabble tourney that's been
going on for about 23 years.

Does your back ever get sore?


Sorry, John, but I require my brain to stay engaged and working. Flying
toy planes doesn't do that for me.

--
Proud to be a Liberal.

On Fire for the Lord!
 

On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 18:50:46 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/19/15 5:27 PM, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 17:20:28 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/19/15 4:16 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 15:07:55 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 2/19/15 2:34 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 13:47:29 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 2/19/15 1:31 PM, wrote:

Yell us again about your gun harry. It seems to be your only interest
beyond working.


I don't discuss my work or most of my non-work interests here in
rec.boats. What's the point?

Then why all of the gun stories? It is ironic that you seem to be the
most committed gun nut here and you are arguing how dangerous they
are. Considering the one you brag about the most was designed as an
implement of war to kill as many people as possible in the shortest
amount of time, your rage against the gun seems disingenuous at best.


My recognition and appreciation of the fact that firearms are inherently
dangerous qualifies me as a gun owner and hobbyist, n'est-ce pas?

I'm hardly a gun nut. I believe the current interpretation of the 2nd
Amendment grossly and incorrectly states the position of the founders on
firearms. I think all firearms should be registered, that all sales
should have a paper trail, that all gun owners be qualified by mandatory
training, that all firearms should be kept away from minors. I suggest
that those who believe otherwise are the gun nuts. You, Herring, and
Wayne are the gun nuts.

I do own an AR-15 and aside from the fact it doesn't have an autofire
mode, it is pretty much the same as many that have been issued to
military personnel. I have disassembled the rifle down to the smallest
pin and spring, replaced some parts and reassembled it properly. I do
not strap it on and walk down the streets with it, nor would I wear it
into Target or a fast food restaurant. When I am not using it, it lives
in a safe. When I take it out of the safe, it is either to modify
something or to take it to the range. Hardly the behavior of a gun nut.

Oh, and if a kid takes a parent's gun to school and shoots people, I
think the kid's parents should face criminal penalties.

Hardly the position of a gun nut.

So, once again, you are wrong.

Un Huh.

You are certainly working overtime to rationalize your obsession with
your guns. Other than ad hominem attacks on other posters, it is the
only thing you talk about.


This isn't the place to discuss my involvement with the free trade
movement in Cuba or my interest in an NGO that helps those in third
world countries build sustainable communities and provide for potable
water. I'm not going to discuss my marketing accounts here. That leaves
an innocuous hobby or two to discuss. That's all you get. Oh, I'm also
involved in an internet chess league and a Scrabble tourney that's been
going on for about 23 years.

Does your back ever get sore?


Sorry, John, but I require my brain to stay engaged and working. Flying
toy planes doesn't do that for me.

You failed to answer the question.
--

Guns don't cause problems. The behavior
of certain gun owners causes problems.