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Keyser Söze February 2nd 15 01:41 PM

Don't throw snowballs at each other if...
 
....you're black:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-t...&v=AWq2HRSYFCg
--
Proud to be a Liberal.

Mucho Loco February 2nd 15 01:55 PM

Don't throw snowballs at each other if...
 
On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 08:41:32 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

...you're black:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-t...&v=AWq2HRSYFCg


Gullible?

Mandela says it best:

Mandela Stolemybike9 hours ago (edited)

"post the few minutes before cop shows up, bitch"
--

Guns don't cause problems. The behavior
of certain gun owners causes problems.

Keyser Söze February 2nd 15 04:36 PM

Don't throw snowballs at each other if...
 
On 2/2/15 11:32 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 08:55:14 -0500, Mucho Loco
wrote:

On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 08:41:32 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

...you're black:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-t...&v=AWq2HRSYFCg

Gullible?

Mandela says it best:

Mandela Stolemybike9 hours ago (edited)

"post the few minutes before cop shows up, bitch"


That is an old story (last winter). They hit the cop with a snowball.


So he came after the "perps" with his gun drawn? For a snowball? The cop
should be reassigned to trash collection.

--
Proud to be a Liberal.

Mucho Loco February 2nd 15 05:37 PM

Don't throw snowballs at each other if...
 
On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 11:36:26 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/2/15 11:32 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 08:55:14 -0500, Mucho Loco
wrote:

On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 08:41:32 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

...you're black:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-t...&v=AWq2HRSYFCg

Gullible?

Mandela says it best:

Mandela Stolemybike9 hours ago (edited)

"post the few minutes before cop shows up, bitch"


That is an old story (last winter). They hit the cop with a snowball.


So he came after the "perps" with his gun drawn? For a snowball? The cop
should be reassigned to trash collection.


Perhaps you should be a bit more careful in your anti-white-cop selections. Did you
really think 30 seconds told the whole story?
--

Guns don't cause problems. The behavior
of certain gun owners causes problems.

Wayne.B February 2nd 15 06:34 PM

Don't throw snowballs at each other if...
 
On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 12:37:54 -0500, Mucho Loco
wrote:

On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 11:36:26 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/2/15 11:32 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 08:55:14 -0500, Mucho Loco
wrote:

On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 08:41:32 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

...you're black:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-t...&v=AWq2HRSYFCg

Gullible?

Mandela says it best:

Mandela Stolemybike9 hours ago (edited)

"post the few minutes before cop shows up, bitch"

That is an old story (last winter). They hit the cop with a snowball.


So he came after the "perps" with his gun drawn? For a snowball? The cop
should be reassigned to trash collection.


Perhaps you should be a bit more careful in your anti-white-cop selections. Did you
really think 30 seconds told the whole story?


===

I wonder why Harry has such a problem with cops? I'll bet there's a
story or two somewhere in the past.

Keyser Söze February 2nd 15 07:00 PM

Don't throw snowballs at each other if...
 
On 2/2/15 1:34 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 12:37:54 -0500, Mucho Loco
wrote:

On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 11:36:26 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/2/15 11:32 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 08:55:14 -0500, Mucho Loco
wrote:

On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 08:41:32 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

...you're black:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-t...&v=AWq2HRSYFCg

Gullible?

Mandela says it best:

Mandela Stolemybike9 hours ago (edited)

"post the few minutes before cop shows up, bitch"

That is an old story (last winter). They hit the cop with a snowball.


So he came after the "perps" with his gun drawn? For a snowball? The cop
should be reassigned to trash collection.


Perhaps you should be a bit more careful in your anti-white-cop selections. Did you
really think 30 seconds told the whole story?


===

I wonder why Harry has such a problem with cops? I'll bet there's a
story or two somewhere in the past.


I'd bet you'd be wrong. Nice try, though, with another billet-doux in
your daily series.


--
Proud to be a Liberal.

KC February 3rd 15 12:15 AM

Don't throw snowballs at each other if...
 
On 2/2/2015 12:37 PM, Mucho Loco wrote:
On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 11:36:26 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/2/15 11:32 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 08:55:14 -0500, Mucho Loco
wrote:

On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 08:41:32 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

...you're black:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-t...&v=AWq2HRSYFCg

Gullible?

Mandela says it best:

Mandela Stolemybike9 hours ago (edited)

"post the few minutes before cop shows up, bitch"

That is an old story (last winter). They hit the cop with a snowball.


So he came after the "perps" with his gun drawn? For a snowball? The cop
should be reassigned to trash collection.


Perhaps you should be a bit more careful in your anti-white-cop selections. Did you
really think 30 seconds told the whole story?


He was hoping not... :)


Mucho Loco February 3rd 15 01:49 AM

Don't throw snowballs at each other if...
 
On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 20:29:37 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 08:41:32 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

...you're black:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-t...&v=AWq2HRSYFCg


http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crim...icle-1.2099426


I'm sure Harry will acknowledge his error and admit his anti-cop bias.
--

Guns don't cause problems. The behavior
of certain gun owners causes problems.

Keyser Söze February 3rd 15 02:25 AM

Don't throw snowballs at each other if...
 
On 2/2/15 8:49 PM, Mucho Loco wrote:
On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 20:29:37 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 08:41:32 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

...you're black:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-t...&v=AWq2HRSYFCg


http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crim...icle-1.2099426


I'm sure Harry will acknowledge his error and admit his anti-cop bias.

Well, of course you believe the police version.

--
Proud to be a Liberal.

Wayne.B February 3rd 15 03:20 AM

Don't throw snowballs at each other if...
 
On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 21:25:19 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 2/2/15 8:49 PM, Mucho Loco wrote:
On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 20:29:37 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 08:41:32 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

...you're black:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-t...&v=AWq2HRSYFCg


http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crim...icle-1.2099426


I'm sure Harry will acknowledge his error and admit his anti-cop bias.

Well, of course you believe the police version.


===

Why would you doubt it?

Mucho Loco February 3rd 15 01:50 PM

Don't throw snowballs at each other if...
 
On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 21:25:19 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/2/15 8:49 PM, Mucho Loco wrote:
On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 20:29:37 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 08:41:32 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

...you're black:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-t...&v=AWq2HRSYFCg


http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crim...icle-1.2099426


I'm sure Harry will acknowledge his error and admit his anti-cop bias.

Well, of course you believe the police version.


Well, of course you believe the 30 second anti-cop version narrated by a bull****ter.
--

Guns don't cause problems. The behavior
of certain gun owners causes problems.

Wayne.B February 3rd 15 02:51 PM

Don't throw snowballs at each other if...
 
On Tue, 03 Feb 2015 08:50:26 -0500, Mucho Loco
wrote:

On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 21:25:19 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/2/15 8:49 PM, Mucho Loco wrote:
On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 20:29:37 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 08:41:32 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

...you're black:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-t...&v=AWq2HRSYFCg


http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crim...icle-1.2099426

I'm sure Harry will acknowledge his error and admit his anti-cop bias.

Well, of course you believe the police version.


Well, of course you believe the 30 second anti-cop version narrated by a bull****ter.


===

There's no reason not to believe the cop version. It has been very
well investigated by the city of New Rochelle which has a very liberal
mayor and a significant number of affluent and well educated blacks.
If there was any scandal at all it would have been flushed out by now.

Keyser Söze February 3rd 15 03:30 PM

Don't throw snowballs at each other if...
 
On 2/3/15 8:50 AM, Mucho Loco wrote:
On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 21:25:19 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/2/15 8:49 PM, Mucho Loco wrote:
On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 20:29:37 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 08:41:32 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

...you're black:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-t...&v=AWq2HRSYFCg


http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crim...icle-1.2099426

I'm sure Harry will acknowledge his error and admit his anti-cop bias.

Well, of course you believe the police version.


Well, of course you believe the 30 second anti-cop version narrated by a bull****ter.


Yeah, I'm wary of what cops claim these days in defense of some of their
actions.

--
Proud to be a Liberal.

Mucho Loco February 3rd 15 03:32 PM

Don't throw snowballs at each other if...
 
On Tue, 03 Feb 2015 09:51:00 -0500, Wayne.B wrote:

On Tue, 03 Feb 2015 08:50:26 -0500, Mucho Loco
wrote:

On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 21:25:19 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/2/15 8:49 PM, Mucho Loco wrote:
On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 20:29:37 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 08:41:32 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

...you're black:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-t...&v=AWq2HRSYFCg


http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crim...icle-1.2099426

I'm sure Harry will acknowledge his error and admit his anti-cop bias.

Well, of course you believe the police version.


Well, of course you believe the 30 second anti-cop version narrated by a bull****ter.


===

There's no reason not to believe the cop version. It has been very
well investigated by the city of New Rochelle which has a very liberal
mayor and a significant number of affluent and well educated blacks.
If there was any scandal at all it would have been flushed out by now.


Speaking of cops and guns. What ammo are you shooting in the MN? I'd like to try some
of this stuff, but can't find a place to shoot it!

http://tinyurl.com/jwsj8pj

or:

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/411549818/Russian+7.62x54R+147gr.+Full+Metal+Jacket%2C+20+rd s?utm_source=Email&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=M osinAmmo27Jan2015
--

Guns don't cause problems. The behavior
of certain gun owners causes problems.

Wayne.B February 3rd 15 04:21 PM

Don't throw snowballs at each other if...
 
On Tue, 03 Feb 2015 10:32:55 -0500, Mucho Loco
wrote:

On Tue, 03 Feb 2015 09:51:00 -0500, Wayne.B wrote:

On Tue, 03 Feb 2015 08:50:26 -0500, Mucho Loco
wrote:

On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 21:25:19 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/2/15 8:49 PM, Mucho Loco wrote:
On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 20:29:37 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 08:41:32 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

...you're black:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-t...&v=AWq2HRSYFCg


http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crim...icle-1.2099426

I'm sure Harry will acknowledge his error and admit his anti-cop bias.

Well, of course you believe the police version.

Well, of course you believe the 30 second anti-cop version narrated by a bull****ter.


===

There's no reason not to believe the cop version. It has been very
well investigated by the city of New Rochelle which has a very liberal
mayor and a significant number of affluent and well educated blacks.
If there was any scandal at all it would have been flushed out by now.


Speaking of cops and guns. What ammo are you shooting in the MN? I'd like to try some
of this stuff, but can't find a place to shoot it!

http://tinyurl.com/jwsj8pj

or:

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/411549818/Russian+7.62x54R+147gr.+Full+Metal+Jacket%2C+20+rd s?utm_source=Email&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=M osinAmmo27Jan2015


===

That looks like the same stuff. The bullets are copper clad over a
steel core and the cases are copper washed steel with a corrosive
primer. They come wrapped in paper, 20 rounds to a bundle, and are
about 30 cents a round here at a local gun shop.

Keyser Söze February 3rd 15 04:26 PM

Don't throw snowballs at each other if...
 
On 2/3/15 11:10 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 03 Feb 2015 10:30:53 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 2/3/15 8:50 AM, Mucho Loco wrote:
On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 21:25:19 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/2/15 8:49 PM, Mucho Loco wrote:
On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 20:29:37 -0500,
wrote:

On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 08:41:32 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

...you're black:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-t...&v=AWq2HRSYFCg


http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crim...icle-1.2099426

I'm sure Harry will acknowledge his error and admit his anti-cop bias.

Well, of course you believe the police version.

Well, of course you believe the 30 second anti-cop version narrated by a bull****ter.


Yeah, I'm wary of what cops claim these days in defense of some of their
actions.


"Off the pigs" huh.

You SDS roots are showing again.


Say what? "SDS" "Off the pigs"? Do you see a post of mine where I
advocated shooting police? No, you haven't. I lost trust in the police
and police departments when the police murderers of Amadou Diallo got
off scot-free. That was in 1999. Since then I have taken notice of too
many shootings and beatings of unarmed victims, violence perpetrated by
the police, to have much faith in police integrity, especially when the
cops almost always are exonerated.

You're a funny libertarian. You were whining yesterday about government
overreach and today you seem willing to give the police a pass, no
matter what.

--
Proud to be a Liberal.

Mucho Loco February 3rd 15 04:28 PM

Don't throw snowballs at each other if...
 
On Tue, 03 Feb 2015 10:30:53 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/3/15 8:50 AM, Mucho Loco wrote:
On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 21:25:19 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/2/15 8:49 PM, Mucho Loco wrote:
On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 20:29:37 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 08:41:32 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

...you're black:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-t...&v=AWq2HRSYFCg


http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crim...icle-1.2099426

I'm sure Harry will acknowledge his error and admit his anti-cop bias.

Well, of course you believe the police version.


Well, of course you believe the 30 second anti-cop version narrated by a bull****ter.


Yeah, I'm wary of what cops claim these days in defense of some of their
actions.


The 'Yeah' was enough.
--

Guns don't cause problems. The behavior
of certain gun owners causes problems.

Mucho Loco February 3rd 15 04:30 PM

Don't throw snowballs at each other if...
 
On Tue, 03 Feb 2015 11:21:20 -0500, Wayne.B wrote:

On Tue, 03 Feb 2015 10:32:55 -0500, Mucho Loco
wrote:

On Tue, 03 Feb 2015 09:51:00 -0500, Wayne.B wrote:

On Tue, 03 Feb 2015 08:50:26 -0500, Mucho Loco
wrote:

On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 21:25:19 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/2/15 8:49 PM, Mucho Loco wrote:
On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 20:29:37 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 08:41:32 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

...you're black:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-t...&v=AWq2HRSYFCg


http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crim...icle-1.2099426

I'm sure Harry will acknowledge his error and admit his anti-cop bias.

Well, of course you believe the police version.

Well, of course you believe the 30 second anti-cop version narrated by a bull****ter.

===

There's no reason not to believe the cop version. It has been very
well investigated by the city of New Rochelle which has a very liberal
mayor and a significant number of affluent and well educated blacks.
If there was any scandal at all it would have been flushed out by now.


Speaking of cops and guns. What ammo are you shooting in the MN? I'd like to try some
of this stuff, but can't find a place to shoot it!

http://tinyurl.com/jwsj8pj

or:

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/411549818/Russian+7.62x54R+147gr.+Full+Metal+Jacket%2C+20+rd s?utm_source=Email&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=M osinAmmo27Jan2015


===

That looks like the same stuff. The bullets are copper clad over a
steel core and the cases are copper washed steel with a corrosive
primer. They come wrapped in paper, 20 rounds to a bundle, and are
about 30 cents a round here at a local gun shop.


The only outdoor range I can find locally requires use of ammo purchased on site.
They want $14.95 for a box of 20 of the Russian surplus stuff. Unreal.

Buds is having a pretty good sale on it.
--

Guns don't cause problems. The behavior
of certain gun owners causes problems.

Wayne.B February 3rd 15 07:01 PM

Don't throw snowballs at each other if...
 
On Tue, 03 Feb 2015 11:26:03 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

I lost trust in the police
and police departments when the police murderers of Amadou Diallo got
off scot-free.


===

So you lost trust in the police after a sample of one? What type of
statistics did you study?

It was ruled to be an honest mistake. Highly regrettable but
certainly not murder. Police work is very dangerous and so is fleeing
and/or resisting.

Keyser Söze February 3rd 15 07:05 PM

Don't throw snowballs at each other if...
 
On 2/3/15 1:47 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 03 Feb 2015 11:26:03 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

You're a funny libertarian. You were whining yesterday about government
overreach and today you seem willing to give the police a pass, no
matter what.


... and you give black people who assault the police a pass.

I am not necessarily saying they are always right but they are
consistent, a fact you seem to deny. The DC cop who was threatening
people with his gun over being hit by a snowball was black. I don't
remember you bitching about that.
There is also no outrage about the black cop who shot the unarmed guy
the other day. It makes me ask, who are the real racists.


I also give unarmed white people who are attacked by the police a pass.
You obviously keep closer track of these events than I do.

--
Proud to be a Liberal.

Califbill February 4th 15 09:52 PM

Don't throw snowballs at each other if...
 
Mucho Loco wrote:
On Tue, 03 Feb 2015 11:21:20 -0500, Wayne.B wrote:

On Tue, 03 Feb 2015 10:32:55 -0500, Mucho Loco
wrote:

On Tue, 03 Feb 2015 09:51:00 -0500, Wayne.B wrote:

On Tue, 03 Feb 2015 08:50:26 -0500, Mucho Loco
wrote:

On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 21:25:19 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/2/15 8:49 PM, Mucho Loco wrote:
On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 20:29:37 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 08:41:32 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

...you're black:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-t...&v=AWq2HRSYFCg


http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crim...icle-1.2099426

I'm sure Harry will acknowledge his error and admit his anti-cop bias.

Well, of course you believe the police version.

Well, of course you believe the 30 second anti-cop version narrated by a bull****ter.

===

There's no reason not to believe the cop version. It has been very
well investigated by the city of New Rochelle which has a very liberal
mayor and a significant number of affluent and well educated blacks.
If there was any scandal at all it would have been flushed out by now.

Speaking of cops and guns. What ammo are you shooting in the MN? I'd like to try some
of this stuff, but can't find a place to shoot it!

http://tinyurl.com/jwsj8pj

or:

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/411549818/Russian+7.62x54R+147gr.+Full+Metal+Jacket%2C+20+rd s?utm_source=Email&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=M osinAmmo27Jan2015


===

That looks like the same stuff. The bullets are copper clad over a
steel core and the cases are copper washed steel with a corrosive
primer. They come wrapped in paper, 20 rounds to a bundle, and are
about 30 cents a round here at a local gun shop.


The only outdoor range I can find locally requires use of ammo purchased on site.
They want $14.95 for a box of 20 of the Russian surplus stuff. Unreal.

Buds is having a pretty good sale on it.


Buy one box of theirs and have a bunch of yours in the range box.

Keyser Söze February 4th 15 10:12 PM

Don't throw snowballs at each other if...
 
On 2/4/15 4:52 PM, Califbill wrote:
Mucho Loco wrote:
On Tue, 03 Feb 2015 11:21:20 -0500, Wayne.B wrote:

On Tue, 03 Feb 2015 10:32:55 -0500, Mucho Loco
wrote:

On Tue, 03 Feb 2015 09:51:00 -0500, Wayne.B wrote:

On Tue, 03 Feb 2015 08:50:26 -0500, Mucho Loco
wrote:

On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 21:25:19 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/2/15 8:49 PM, Mucho Loco wrote:
On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 20:29:37 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 08:41:32 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

...you're black:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-t...&v=AWq2HRSYFCg


http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crim...icle-1.2099426

I'm sure Harry will acknowledge his error and admit his anti-cop bias.

Well, of course you believe the police version.

Well, of course you believe the 30 second anti-cop version narrated by a bull****ter.

===

There's no reason not to believe the cop version. It has been very
well investigated by the city of New Rochelle which has a very liberal
mayor and a significant number of affluent and well educated blacks.
If there was any scandal at all it would have been flushed out by now.

Speaking of cops and guns. What ammo are you shooting in the MN? I'd like to try some
of this stuff, but can't find a place to shoot it!

http://tinyurl.com/jwsj8pj

or:

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/411549818/Russian+7.62x54R+147gr.+Full+Metal+Jacket%2C+20+rd s?utm_source=Email&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=M osinAmmo27Jan2015

===

That looks like the same stuff. The bullets are copper clad over a
steel core and the cases are copper washed steel with a corrosive
primer. They come wrapped in paper, 20 rounds to a bundle, and are
about 30 cents a round here at a local gun shop.


The only outdoor range I can find locally requires use of ammo purchased on site.
They want $14.95 for a box of 20 of the Russian surplus stuff. Unreal.

Buds is having a pretty good sale on it.


Buy one box of theirs and have a bunch of yours in the range box.



I guess we're lucky we have a public outdoor shooting range a reasonable
distance away, and it doesn't sell ammo. :) The 50-yard indoor rifle
range near here is private, but you can use your own ammo so long as
you're not using steel bullets.

--
Proud to be a Liberal.

Califbill February 4th 15 10:28 PM

Don't throw snowballs at each other if...
 
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/4/15 4:52 PM, Califbill wrote:
Mucho Loco wrote:
On Tue, 03 Feb 2015 11:21:20 -0500, Wayne.B wrote:

On Tue, 03 Feb 2015 10:32:55 -0500, Mucho Loco
wrote:

On Tue, 03 Feb 2015 09:51:00 -0500, Wayne.B wrote:

On Tue, 03 Feb 2015 08:50:26 -0500, Mucho Loco
wrote:

On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 21:25:19 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/2/15 8:49 PM, Mucho Loco wrote:
On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 20:29:37 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 08:41:32 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

...you're black:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-t...&v=AWq2HRSYFCg


http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crim...icle-1.2099426

I'm sure Harry will acknowledge his error and admit his anti-cop bias.

Well, of course you believe the police version.

Well, of course you believe the 30 second anti-cop version narrated by a bull****ter.

===

There's no reason not to believe the cop version. It has been very
well investigated by the city of New Rochelle which has a very liberal
mayor and a significant number of affluent and well educated blacks.
If there was any scandal at all it would have been flushed out by now.

Speaking of cops and guns. What ammo are you shooting in the MN? I'd like to try some
of this stuff, but can't find a place to shoot it!

http://tinyurl.com/jwsj8pj

or:

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/411549818/Russian+7.62x54R+147gr.+Full+Metal+Jacket%2C+20+rd s?utm_source=Email&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=M osinAmmo27Jan2015

===

That looks like the same stuff. The bullets are copper clad over a
steel core and the cases are copper washed steel with a corrosive
primer. They come wrapped in paper, 20 rounds to a bundle, and are
about 30 cents a round here at a local gun shop.

The only outdoor range I can find locally requires use of ammo purchased on site.
They want $14.95 for a box of 20 of the Russian surplus stuff. Unreal.

Buds is having a pretty good sale on it.


Buy one box of theirs and have a bunch of yours in the range box.



I guess we're lucky we have a public outdoor shooting range a reasonable
distance away, and it doesn't sell ammo. :) The 50-yard indoor rifle
range near here is private, but you can use your own ammo so long as
you're not using steel bullets.



Our public range sells ammo. Not overpriced. Convenient.

Keyser Söze February 4th 15 10:53 PM

Don't throw snowballs at each other if...
 
On 2/4/15 5:28 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/4/15 4:52 PM, Califbill wrote:
Mucho Loco wrote:
On Tue, 03 Feb 2015 11:21:20 -0500, Wayne.B wrote:

On Tue, 03 Feb 2015 10:32:55 -0500, Mucho Loco
wrote:

On Tue, 03 Feb 2015 09:51:00 -0500, Wayne.B wrote:

On Tue, 03 Feb 2015 08:50:26 -0500, Mucho Loco
wrote:

On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 21:25:19 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/2/15 8:49 PM, Mucho Loco wrote:
On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 20:29:37 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 08:41:32 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

...you're black:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-t...&v=AWq2HRSYFCg


http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crim...icle-1.2099426

I'm sure Harry will acknowledge his error and admit his anti-cop bias.

Well, of course you believe the police version.

Well, of course you believe the 30 second anti-cop version narrated by a bull****ter.

===

There's no reason not to believe the cop version. It has been very
well investigated by the city of New Rochelle which has a very liberal
mayor and a significant number of affluent and well educated blacks.
If there was any scandal at all it would have been flushed out by now.

Speaking of cops and guns. What ammo are you shooting in the MN? I'd like to try some
of this stuff, but can't find a place to shoot it!

http://tinyurl.com/jwsj8pj

or:

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/411549818/Russian+7.62x54R+147gr.+Full+Metal+Jacket%2C+20+rd s?utm_source=Email&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=M osinAmmo27Jan2015

===

That looks like the same stuff. The bullets are copper clad over a
steel core and the cases are copper washed steel with a corrosive
primer. They come wrapped in paper, 20 rounds to a bundle, and are
about 30 cents a round here at a local gun shop.

The only outdoor range I can find locally requires use of ammo purchased on site.
They want $14.95 for a box of 20 of the Russian surplus stuff. Unreal.

Buds is having a pretty good sale on it.

Buy one box of theirs and have a bunch of yours in the range box.



I guess we're lucky we have a public outdoor shooting range a reasonable
distance away, and it doesn't sell ammo. :) The 50-yard indoor rifle
range near here is private, but you can use your own ammo so long as
you're not using steel bullets.



Our public range sells ammo. Not overpriced. Convenient.


I rarely buy ammo from other than mail order suppliers. The local
dealers that are convenient to me rarely have the brand names of ammo I
want to buy, or, if they do, they want a lot more money for it when you
figure in their retail versus a mail order supplier's price plus
shipping. I won't use steel ammo. I don't mind aluminum casings on .357
MAG rounds, but I stay away from steel casings.

For my AR-15, I've found Wolf Gold and PMC ammo in brass casings to be
reliable, accurate enough for my level of shooting, and at 27 cents or
so a round, reasonable. I finally talked my neighbor down the street out
of paying 50 cents a round for the Federal .223 at Walmart.

What's hard to find right now at reasonable prices is CCI Standard
Velocity .22LR. These feed very nicely through my .22LR semi-auto pistol
and rifle, and work well with my silencer, since the rounds are
sub-sonic. Around here, the dealer who can sell silencers tack on $50 to
$75 to the silencer selling price for "handling" the paperwork, and the
ATF stamp is $200. Both prices are a colossal rip, and it takes the ARF
four to six months to diddle around with the app until you get the stamp
back.



--
Proud to be a Liberal.

Mucho Loco February 4th 15 11:02 PM

Don't throw snowballs at each other if...
 
On Wed, 04 Feb 2015 15:52:34 -0600, Califbill wrote:

Mucho Loco wrote:
On Tue, 03 Feb 2015 11:21:20 -0500, Wayne.B wrote:

On Tue, 03 Feb 2015 10:32:55 -0500, Mucho Loco
wrote:

On Tue, 03 Feb 2015 09:51:00 -0500, Wayne.B wrote:

On Tue, 03 Feb 2015 08:50:26 -0500, Mucho Loco
wrote:

On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 21:25:19 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/2/15 8:49 PM, Mucho Loco wrote:
On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 20:29:37 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 08:41:32 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

...you're black:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-t...&v=AWq2HRSYFCg


http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crim...icle-1.2099426

I'm sure Harry will acknowledge his error and admit his anti-cop bias.

Well, of course you believe the police version.

Well, of course you believe the 30 second anti-cop version narrated by a bull****ter.

===

There's no reason not to believe the cop version. It has been very
well investigated by the city of New Rochelle which has a very liberal
mayor and a significant number of affluent and well educated blacks.
If there was any scandal at all it would have been flushed out by now.

Speaking of cops and guns. What ammo are you shooting in the MN? I'd like to try some
of this stuff, but can't find a place to shoot it!

http://tinyurl.com/jwsj8pj

or:

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/411549818/Russian+7.62x54R+147gr.+Full+Metal+Jacket%2C+20+rd s?utm_source=Email&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=M osinAmmo27Jan2015

===

That looks like the same stuff. The bullets are copper clad over a
steel core and the cases are copper washed steel with a corrosive
primer. They come wrapped in paper, 20 rounds to a bundle, and are
about 30 cents a round here at a local gun shop.


The only outdoor range I can find locally requires use of ammo purchased on site.
They want $14.95 for a box of 20 of the Russian surplus stuff. Unreal.

Buds is having a pretty good sale on it.


Buy one box of theirs and have a bunch of yours in the range box.


That's what I'm thinking. My SIL lives out there and uses the place a lot. I'll give
him a shout and see if it's possible to get away with that.
--

Guns don't cause problems. The behavior
of certain gun owners causes problems.

Mucho Loco February 4th 15 11:06 PM

Don't throw snowballs at each other if...
 
On Wed, 04 Feb 2015 17:12:19 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/4/15 4:52 PM, Califbill wrote:
Mucho Loco wrote:
On Tue, 03 Feb 2015 11:21:20 -0500, Wayne.B wrote:

On Tue, 03 Feb 2015 10:32:55 -0500, Mucho Loco
wrote:

On Tue, 03 Feb 2015 09:51:00 -0500, Wayne.B wrote:

On Tue, 03 Feb 2015 08:50:26 -0500, Mucho Loco
wrote:

On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 21:25:19 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/2/15 8:49 PM, Mucho Loco wrote:
On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 20:29:37 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 08:41:32 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

...you're black:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-t...&v=AWq2HRSYFCg


http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crim...icle-1.2099426

I'm sure Harry will acknowledge his error and admit his anti-cop bias.

Well, of course you believe the police version.

Well, of course you believe the 30 second anti-cop version narrated by a bull****ter.

===

There's no reason not to believe the cop version. It has been very
well investigated by the city of New Rochelle which has a very liberal
mayor and a significant number of affluent and well educated blacks.
If there was any scandal at all it would have been flushed out by now.

Speaking of cops and guns. What ammo are you shooting in the MN? I'd like to try some
of this stuff, but can't find a place to shoot it!

http://tinyurl.com/jwsj8pj

or:

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/411549818/Russian+7.62x54R+147gr.+Full+Metal+Jacket%2C+20+rd s?utm_source=Email&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=M osinAmmo27Jan2015

===

That looks like the same stuff. The bullets are copper clad over a
steel core and the cases are copper washed steel with a corrosive
primer. They come wrapped in paper, 20 rounds to a bundle, and are
about 30 cents a round here at a local gun shop.

The only outdoor range I can find locally requires use of ammo purchased on site.
They want $14.95 for a box of 20 of the Russian surplus stuff. Unreal.

Buds is having a pretty good sale on it.


Buy one box of theirs and have a bunch of yours in the range box.



I guess we're lucky we have a public outdoor shooting range a reasonable
distance away, and it doesn't sell ammo. :) The 50-yard indoor rifle
range near here is private, but you can use your own ammo so long as
you're not using steel bullets.


Indoor 50 yard ranges are not hard to find. But, they won't allow steel bullets.
Thats' the problem. These are the cheap way to go:

http://www.slickguns.com/product/762...-free-shipping
--

Guns don't cause problems. The behavior
of certain gun owners causes problems.

Keyser Söze February 4th 15 11:27 PM

Don't throw snowballs at each other if...
 
Mucho Loco wrote:
On Wed, 04 Feb 2015 15:52:34 -0600, Califbill wrote:

Mucho Loco wrote:
On Tue, 03 Feb 2015 11:21:20 -0500, Wayne.B wrote:

On Tue, 03 Feb 2015 10:32:55 -0500, Mucho Loco
wrote:

On Tue, 03 Feb 2015 09:51:00 -0500, Wayne.B wrote:

On Tue, 03 Feb 2015 08:50:26 -0500, Mucho Loco
wrote:

On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 21:25:19 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/2/15 8:49 PM, Mucho Loco wrote:
On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 20:29:37 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 08:41:32 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

...you're black:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-t...&v=AWq2HRSYFCg


http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crim...icle-1.2099426

I'm sure Harry will acknowledge his error and admit his anti-cop bias.

Well, of course you believe the police version.

Well, of course you believe the 30 second anti-cop version narrated by a bull****ter.

===

There's no reason not to believe the cop version. It has been very
well investigated by the city of New Rochelle which has a very liberal
mayor and a significant number of affluent and well educated blacks.
If there was any scandal at all it would have been flushed out by now.

Speaking of cops and guns. What ammo are you shooting in the MN? I'd like to try some
of this stuff, but can't find a place to shoot it!

http://tinyurl.com/jwsj8pj

or:

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/411549818/Russian+7.62x54R+147gr.+Full+Metal+Jacket%2C+20+rd s?utm_source=Email&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=M osinAmmo27Jan2015

===

That looks like the same stuff. The bullets are copper clad over a
steel core and the cases are copper washed steel with a corrosive
primer. They come wrapped in paper, 20 rounds to a bundle, and are
about 30 cents a round here at a local gun shop.

The only outdoor range I can find locally requires use of ammo purchased on site.
They want $14.95 for a box of 20 of the Russian surplus stuff. Unreal.

Buds is having a pretty good sale on it.


Buy one box of theirs and have a bunch of yours in the range box.


That's what I'm thinking. My SIL lives out there and uses the place a lot. I'll give
him a shout and see if it's possible to get away with that.


Well of course.
--
Sent from my iPhone 6+

Someone Else[_4_] February 5th 15 12:26 AM

Don't throw snowballs at each other if...
 
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/3/15 11:10 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 03 Feb 2015 10:30:53 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 2/3/15 8:50 AM, Mucho Loco wrote:
On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 21:25:19 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 2/2/15 8:49 PM, Mucho Loco wrote:
On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 20:29:37 -0500,
wrote:

On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 08:41:32 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

...you're black:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-t...&v=AWq2HRSYFCg



http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crim...icle-1.2099426


I'm sure Harry will acknowledge his error and admit his anti-cop
bias.

Well, of course you believe the police version.

Well, of course you believe the 30 second anti-cop version narrated
by a bull****ter.


Yeah, I'm wary of what cops claim these days in defense of some of
their
actions.


"Off the pigs" huh.

You SDS roots are showing again.


Say what? "SDS" "Off the pigs"? Do you see a post of mine where I
advocated shooting police? No, you haven't. I lost trust in the police
and police departments when the police murderers of Amadou Diallo got
off scot-free. That was in 1999. Since then I have taken notice of too
many shootings and beatings of unarmed victims, violence perpetrated
by the police, to have much faith in police integrity, especially when
the cops almost always are exonerated.

You're a funny libertarian. You were whining yesterday about
government overreach and today you seem willing to give the police a
pass, no matter what.


You trusted them to protect you from a guy 300+ miles away that typed
something that scared you ****less - or was that to just cause trouble?


Someone Else[_4_] February 5th 15 12:33 AM

Don't throw snowballs at each other if...
 
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/4/15 4:52 PM, Califbill wrote:
Mucho Loco wrote:
On Tue, 03 Feb 2015 11:21:20 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Tue, 03 Feb 2015 10:32:55 -0500, Mucho Loco
wrote:

On Tue, 03 Feb 2015 09:51:00 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Tue, 03 Feb 2015 08:50:26 -0500, Mucho Loco

wrote:

On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 21:25:19 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 2/2/15 8:49 PM, Mucho Loco wrote:
On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 20:29:37 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 08:41:32 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

...you're black:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-t...&v=AWq2HRSYFCg



http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crim...icle-1.2099426


I'm sure Harry will acknowledge his error and admit his
anti-cop bias.

Well, of course you believe the police version.

Well, of course you believe the 30 second anti-cop version
narrated by a bull****ter.

===

There's no reason not to believe the cop version. It has been very
well investigated by the city of New Rochelle which has a very
liberal
mayor and a significant number of affluent and well educated blacks.
If there was any scandal at all it would have been flushed out by
now.

Speaking of cops and guns. What ammo are you shooting in the MN?
I'd like to try some
of this stuff, but can't find a place to shoot it!

http://tinyurl.com/jwsj8pj

or:

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/411549818/Russian+7.62x54R+147gr.+Full+Metal+Jacket%2C+20+rd s?utm_source=Email&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=M osinAmmo27Jan2015


===

That looks like the same stuff. The bullets are copper clad over a
steel core and the cases are copper washed steel with a corrosive
primer. They come wrapped in paper, 20 rounds to a bundle, and are
about 30 cents a round here at a local gun shop.

The only outdoor range I can find locally requires use of ammo
purchased on site.
They want $14.95 for a box of 20 of the Russian surplus stuff. Unreal.

Buds is having a pretty good sale on it.


Buy one box of theirs and have a bunch of yours in the range box.



I guess we're lucky we have a public outdoor shooting range a
reasonable distance away, and it doesn't sell ammo. :) The 50-yard
indoor rifle range near here is private, but you can use your own ammo
so long as you're not using steel bullets.


Where do you find steel bullets?


Someone Else[_4_] February 5th 15 12:36 AM

Don't throw snowballs at each other if...
 
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/4/15 5:28 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/4/15 4:52 PM, Califbill wrote:
Mucho Loco wrote:
On Tue, 03 Feb 2015 11:21:20 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Tue, 03 Feb 2015 10:32:55 -0500, Mucho Loco

wrote:

On Tue, 03 Feb 2015 09:51:00 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Tue, 03 Feb 2015 08:50:26 -0500, Mucho Loco

wrote:

On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 21:25:19 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 2/2/15 8:49 PM, Mucho Loco wrote:
On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 20:29:37 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 08:41:32 -0500, Keyser Söze

wrote:

...you're black:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-t...&v=AWq2HRSYFCg



http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crim...icle-1.2099426


I'm sure Harry will acknowledge his error and admit his
anti-cop bias.

Well, of course you believe the police version.

Well, of course you believe the 30 second anti-cop version
narrated by a bull****ter.

===

There's no reason not to believe the cop version. It has been very
well investigated by the city of New Rochelle which has a very
liberal
mayor and a significant number of affluent and well educated
blacks.
If there was any scandal at all it would have been flushed out
by now.

Speaking of cops and guns. What ammo are you shooting in the MN?
I'd like to try some
of this stuff, but can't find a place to shoot it!

http://tinyurl.com/jwsj8pj

or:

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/411549818/Russian+7.62x54R+147gr.+Full+Metal+Jacket%2C+20+rd s?utm_source=Email&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=M osinAmmo27Jan2015


===

That looks like the same stuff. The bullets are copper clad over a
steel core and the cases are copper washed steel with a corrosive
primer. They come wrapped in paper, 20 rounds to a bundle, and are
about 30 cents a round here at a local gun shop.

The only outdoor range I can find locally requires use of ammo
purchased on site.
They want $14.95 for a box of 20 of the Russian surplus stuff.
Unreal.

Buds is having a pretty good sale on it.

Buy one box of theirs and have a bunch of yours in the range box.



I guess we're lucky we have a public outdoor shooting range a
reasonable
distance away, and it doesn't sell ammo. :) The 50-yard indoor rifle
range near here is private, but you can use your own ammo so long as
you're not using steel bullets.



Our public range sells ammo. Not overpriced. Convenient.


I rarely buy ammo from other than mail order suppliers. The local
dealers that are convenient to me rarely have the brand names of ammo
I want to buy, or, if they do, they want a lot more money for it when
you figure in their retail versus a mail order supplier's price plus
shipping. I won't use steel ammo. I don't mind aluminum casings on
.357 MAG rounds, but I stay away from steel casings.

For my AR-15, I've found Wolf Gold and PMC ammo in brass casings to be
reliable, accurate enough for my level of shooting, and at 27 cents or
so a round, reasonable. I finally talked my neighbor down the street
out of paying 50 cents a round for the Federal .223 at Walmart.

What's hard to find right now at reasonable prices is CCI Standard
Velocity .22LR. These feed very nicely through my .22LR semi-auto
pistol and rifle, and work well with my silencer, since the rounds are
sub-sonic. Around here, the dealer who can sell silencers tack on $50
to $75 to the silencer selling price for "handling" the paperwork, and
the ATF stamp is $200. Both prices are a colossal rip, and it takes
the ARF four to six months to diddle around with the app until you get
the stamp back.



You can't afford these?

http://palmettostatearmory.com/index...box-50035.html

Mucho Loco February 5th 15 01:00 AM

Don't throw snowballs at each other if...
 
On Wed, 04 Feb 2015 19:33:28 -0500, Someone Else wrote:

Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/4/15 4:52 PM, Califbill wrote:
Mucho Loco wrote:
On Tue, 03 Feb 2015 11:21:20 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Tue, 03 Feb 2015 10:32:55 -0500, Mucho Loco
wrote:

On Tue, 03 Feb 2015 09:51:00 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Tue, 03 Feb 2015 08:50:26 -0500, Mucho Loco

wrote:

On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 21:25:19 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 2/2/15 8:49 PM, Mucho Loco wrote:
On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 20:29:37 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 08:41:32 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

...you're black:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-t...&v=AWq2HRSYFCg



http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crim...icle-1.2099426


I'm sure Harry will acknowledge his error and admit his
anti-cop bias.

Well, of course you believe the police version.

Well, of course you believe the 30 second anti-cop version
narrated by a bull****ter.

===

There's no reason not to believe the cop version. It has been very
well investigated by the city of New Rochelle which has a very
liberal
mayor and a significant number of affluent and well educated blacks.
If there was any scandal at all it would have been flushed out by
now.

Speaking of cops and guns. What ammo are you shooting in the MN?
I'd like to try some
of this stuff, but can't find a place to shoot it!

http://tinyurl.com/jwsj8pj

or:

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/411549818/Russian+7.62x54R+147gr.+Full+Metal+Jacket%2C+20+rd s?utm_source=Email&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=M osinAmmo27Jan2015


===

That looks like the same stuff. The bullets are copper clad over a
steel core and the cases are copper washed steel with a corrosive
primer. They come wrapped in paper, 20 rounds to a bundle, and are
about 30 cents a round here at a local gun shop.

The only outdoor range I can find locally requires use of ammo
purchased on site.
They want $14.95 for a box of 20 of the Russian surplus stuff. Unreal.

Buds is having a pretty good sale on it.

Buy one box of theirs and have a bunch of yours in the range box.



I guess we're lucky we have a public outdoor shooting range a
reasonable distance away, and it doesn't sell ammo. :) The 50-yard
indoor rifle range near here is private, but you can use your own ammo
so long as you're not using steel bullets.


Where do you find steel bullets?


http://www.slickguns.com/product/762...-free-shipping
--

Guns don't cause problems. The behavior
of certain gun owners causes problems.

Califbill February 5th 15 01:05 AM

Don't throw snowballs at each other if...
 
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/4/15 5:28 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/4/15 4:52 PM, Califbill wrote:
Mucho Loco wrote:
On Tue, 03 Feb 2015 11:21:20 -0500, Wayne.B wrote:

On Tue, 03 Feb 2015 10:32:55 -0500, Mucho Loco
wrote:

On Tue, 03 Feb 2015 09:51:00 -0500, Wayne.B wrote:

On Tue, 03 Feb 2015 08:50:26 -0500, Mucho Loco
wrote:

On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 21:25:19 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/2/15 8:49 PM, Mucho Loco wrote:
On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 20:29:37 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 08:41:32 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

...you're black:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-t...&v=AWq2HRSYFCg


http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crim...icle-1.2099426

I'm sure Harry will acknowledge his error and admit his anti-cop bias.

Well, of course you believe the police version.

Well, of course you believe the 30 second anti-cop version narrated by a
bull****ter.

===

There's no reason not to believe the cop version. It has been very
well investigated by the city of New Rochelle which has a very liberal
mayor and a significant number of affluent and well educated blacks.
If there was any scandal at all it would have been flushed out by now.

Speaking of cops and guns. What ammo are you shooting in the MN? I'd like to try some
of this stuff, but can't find a place to shoot it!

http://tinyurl.com/jwsj8pj

or:

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/411549818/Russian+7.62x54R+147gr.+Full+Metal+Jacket%2C+20+rd s?utm_source=Email&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=M osinAmmo27Jan2015

===

That looks like the same stuff. The bullets are copper clad over a
steel core and the cases are copper washed steel with a corrosive
primer. They come wrapped in paper, 20 rounds to a bundle, and are
about 30 cents a round here at a local gun shop.

The only outdoor range I can find locally requires use of ammo purchased on site.
They want $14.95 for a box of 20 of the Russian surplus stuff. Unreal.

Buds is having a pretty good sale on it.

Buy one box of theirs and have a bunch of yours in the range box.



I guess we're lucky we have a public outdoor shooting range a reasonable
distance away, and it doesn't sell ammo. :) The 50-yard indoor rifle
range near here is private, but you can use your own ammo so long as
you're not using steel bullets.



Our public range sells ammo. Not overpriced. Convenient.


I rarely buy ammo from other than mail order suppliers. The local dealers
that are convenient to me rarely have the brand names of ammo I want to
buy, or, if they do, they want a lot more money for it when you figure in
their retail versus a mail order supplier's price plus shipping. I won't
use steel ammo. I don't mind aluminum casings on .357 MAG rounds, but I
stay away from steel casings.

For my AR-15, I've found Wolf Gold and PMC ammo in brass casings to be
reliable, accurate enough for my level of shooting, and at 27 cents or so
a round, reasonable. I finally talked my neighbor down the street out of
paying 50 cents a round for the Federal .223 at Walmart.

What's hard to find right now at reasonable prices is CCI Standard
Velocity .22LR. These feed very nicely through my .22LR semi-auto pistol
and rifle, and work well with my silencer, since the rounds are
sub-sonic. Around here, the dealer who can sell silencers tack on $50 to
$75 to the silencer selling price for "handling" the paperwork, and the
ATF stamp is $200. Both prices are a colossal rip, and it takes the ARF
four to six months to diddle around with the app until you get the stamp back.




Never shot steel case in my 357, but I would see no problem with it in a
revolver.

Justan Olphart February 5th 15 02:55 AM

Don't throw snowballs at each other if...
 
On 2/4/2015 5:53 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/4/15 5:28 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/4/15 4:52 PM, Califbill wrote:
Mucho Loco wrote:
On Tue, 03 Feb 2015 11:21:20 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Tue, 03 Feb 2015 10:32:55 -0500, Mucho Loco
wrote:

On Tue, 03 Feb 2015 09:51:00 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Tue, 03 Feb 2015 08:50:26 -0500, Mucho Loco

wrote:

On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 21:25:19 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 2/2/15 8:49 PM, Mucho Loco wrote:
On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 20:29:37 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 08:41:32 -0500, Keyser Söze

wrote:

...you're black:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-t...&v=AWq2HRSYFCg



http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crim...icle-1.2099426


I'm sure Harry will acknowledge his error and admit his
anti-cop bias.

Well, of course you believe the police version.

Well, of course you believe the 30 second anti-cop version
narrated by a bull****ter.

===

There's no reason not to believe the cop version. It has been very
well investigated by the city of New Rochelle which has a very
liberal
mayor and a significant number of affluent and well educated
blacks.
If there was any scandal at all it would have been flushed out
by now.

Speaking of cops and guns. What ammo are you shooting in the MN?
I'd like to try some
of this stuff, but can't find a place to shoot it!

http://tinyurl.com/jwsj8pj

or:

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/411549818/Russian+7.62x54R+147gr.+Full+Metal+Jacket%2C+20+rd s?utm_source=Email&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=M osinAmmo27Jan2015


===

That looks like the same stuff. The bullets are copper clad over a
steel core and the cases are copper washed steel with a corrosive
primer. They come wrapped in paper, 20 rounds to a bundle, and are
about 30 cents a round here at a local gun shop.

The only outdoor range I can find locally requires use of ammo
purchased on site.
They want $14.95 for a box of 20 of the Russian surplus stuff. Unreal.

Buds is having a pretty good sale on it.

Buy one box of theirs and have a bunch of yours in the range box.



I guess we're lucky we have a public outdoor shooting range a reasonable
distance away, and it doesn't sell ammo. :) The 50-yard indoor rifle
range near here is private, but you can use your own ammo so long as
you're not using steel bullets.



Our public range sells ammo. Not overpriced. Convenient.


I rarely buy ammo from other than mail order suppliers. The local
dealers that are convenient to me rarely have the brand names of ammo I
want to buy, or, if they do, they want a lot more money for it when you
figure in their retail versus a mail order supplier's price plus
shipping. I won't use steel ammo. I don't mind aluminum casings on .357
MAG rounds, but I stay away from steel casings.

For my AR-15, I've found Wolf Gold and PMC ammo in brass casings to be
reliable, accurate enough for my level of shooting, and at 27 cents or
so a round, reasonable. I finally talked my neighbor down the street out
of paying 50 cents a round for the Federal .223 at Walmart.

What's hard to find right now at reasonable prices is CCI Standard
Velocity .22LR. These feed very nicely through my .22LR semi-auto pistol
and rifle, and work well with my silencer, since the rounds are
sub-sonic. Around here, the dealer who can sell silencers tack on $50 to
$75 to the silencer selling price for "handling" the paperwork, and the
ATF stamp is $200. Both prices are a colossal rip, and it takes the ARF
four to six months to diddle around with the app until you get the stamp
back.



You should have bought your silencer from one of your gangster buddies
and saved yourself the hassle of dealing with the govt.

--

Respectfully submitted by Justan

Laugh of the day from Krause

"I'm not to blame anymore for the atmosphere in here.
I've been "born again" as a nice guy."



Keyser Söze February 5th 15 11:46 AM

Don't throw snowballs at each other if...
 
On 2/4/15 9:55 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 04 Feb 2015 19:33:28 -0500, Someone Else
wrote:

Where do you find steel bullets?


The Russians and Chinese load "bimetal" ammo that is somewhat magnetic
but it is not really "steel". I tore down a "Brown Bear" 9mm a week or
so ago and the jacket is not really that hard. I also posted a link to
a 10,000 round test where they showed that it cuts barrel life in half
(5000 rounds vs 10,000 in the .223s they tested). When they factored
in the price of a barrel against the savings on ammo, it was a wash. I
imagine the effect is less in a slower round.

If you trade in guns as fast as Harry does, I doubt he would ever
notice.



Those who are interested in the composition of bullets might find this
interesting:

http://www.uspsa.org/front-sight-mag...BiMetal-Ammo-8

It's not just the cost of the barrel, by the way. A top quality HBAR is
at least $350 and in my case, I'd also have to buy a low-pro gas block
and probably have to have the barrel dimpled to hold the gas block set
screws, since my current gas block is more properly pinned through the
bottom wall of the barrel. That's another $50. Then there is the cost of
getting a qualified gunsmith to headspace the barrel. That's another $50
or more. By the time you've finished, you've spent $500 for a quality
replacement barrel. The steel cased ammo is a nickel a round less than
the brass ammo. I'll pass on that "savings" in order not to have to
deal with replacing a barrel long before its time. Oh, and I can shoot
the brass ammo on any range where rifles are welcomed.

--
Proud to be a Liberal.

Mucho Loco February 5th 15 01:30 PM

Don't throw snowballs at each other if...
 
On Wed, 04 Feb 2015 21:55:09 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 04 Feb 2015 19:33:28 -0500, Someone Else
wrote:

Where do you find steel bullets?


The Russians and Chinese load "bimetal" ammo that is somewhat magnetic
but it is not really "steel". I tore down a "Brown Bear" 9mm a week or
so ago and the jacket is not really that hard. I also posted a link to
a 10,000 round test where they showed that it cuts barrel life in half
(5000 rounds vs 10,000 in the .223s they tested). When they factored
in the price of a barrel against the savings on ammo, it was a wash. I
imagine the effect is less in a slower round.

If you trade in guns as fast as Harry does, I doubt he would ever
notice.


Around here they keep a magnet with which to check ammo. If they don't recognize it
as 'steel free', it gets the magnet test. If the magnet sticks, it fails. Period,
amen.

I'd shoot the cheap milsurplus stuff in the Mosin Nagant. Don't mind cleaning it. And
the stuff is about 1/3rd the price of the next 'cheapest' stuff.
--

Guns don't cause problems. The behavior
of certain gun owners causes problems.

Mucho Loco February 5th 15 01:33 PM

Don't throw snowballs at each other if...
 
On Thu, 05 Feb 2015 06:46:23 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/4/15 9:55 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 04 Feb 2015 19:33:28 -0500, Someone Else
wrote:

Where do you find steel bullets?


The Russians and Chinese load "bimetal" ammo that is somewhat magnetic
but it is not really "steel". I tore down a "Brown Bear" 9mm a week or
so ago and the jacket is not really that hard. I also posted a link to
a 10,000 round test where they showed that it cuts barrel life in half
(5000 rounds vs 10,000 in the .223s they tested). When they factored
in the price of a barrel against the savings on ammo, it was a wash. I
imagine the effect is less in a slower round.

If you trade in guns as fast as Harry does, I doubt he would ever
notice.



Those who are interested in the composition of bullets might find this
interesting:

http://www.uspsa.org/front-sight-mag...BiMetal-Ammo-8

It's not just the cost of the barrel, by the way. A top quality HBAR is
at least $350 and in my case, I'd also have to buy a low-pro gas block
and probably have to have the barrel dimpled to hold the gas block set
screws, since my current gas block is more properly pinned through the
bottom wall of the barrel. That's another $50. Then there is the cost of
getting a qualified gunsmith to headspace the barrel. That's another $50
or more. By the time you've finished, you've spent $500 for a quality
replacement barrel. The steel cased ammo is a nickel a round less than
the brass ammo. I'll pass on that "savings" in order not to have to
deal with replacing a barrel long before its time. Oh, and I can shoot
the brass ammo on any range where rifles are welcomed.


You're not shooting 7.62X54R. The savings with that ammo is much more significant.

Oh, and for the price of your new barrel, I could easily buy a couple more Mosin
Nagants and have ammo money left over!
--

Guns don't cause problems. The behavior
of certain gun owners causes problems.

Keyser Söze February 5th 15 01:45 PM

Don't throw snowballs at each other if...
 
On 2/5/15 8:33 AM, Mucho Loco wrote:
On Thu, 05 Feb 2015 06:46:23 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/4/15 9:55 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 04 Feb 2015 19:33:28 -0500, Someone Else
wrote:

Where do you find steel bullets?

The Russians and Chinese load "bimetal" ammo that is somewhat magnetic
but it is not really "steel". I tore down a "Brown Bear" 9mm a week or
so ago and the jacket is not really that hard. I also posted a link to
a 10,000 round test where they showed that it cuts barrel life in half
(5000 rounds vs 10,000 in the .223s they tested). When they factored
in the price of a barrel against the savings on ammo, it was a wash. I
imagine the effect is less in a slower round.

If you trade in guns as fast as Harry does, I doubt he would ever
notice.



Those who are interested in the composition of bullets might find this
interesting:

http://www.uspsa.org/front-sight-mag...BiMetal-Ammo-8

It's not just the cost of the barrel, by the way. A top quality HBAR is
at least $350 and in my case, I'd also have to buy a low-pro gas block
and probably have to have the barrel dimpled to hold the gas block set
screws, since my current gas block is more properly pinned through the
bottom wall of the barrel. That's another $50. Then there is the cost of
getting a qualified gunsmith to headspace the barrel. That's another $50
or more. By the time you've finished, you've spent $500 for a quality
replacement barrel. The steel cased ammo is a nickel a round less than
the brass ammo. I'll pass on that "savings" in order not to have to
deal with replacing a barrel long before its time. Oh, and I can shoot
the brass ammo on any range where rifles are welcomed.


You're not shooting 7.62X54R. The savings with that ammo is much more significant.

Oh, and for the price of your new barrel, I could easily buy a couple more Mosin
Nagants and have ammo money left over!



No, I'm not shooting a "Russian caliber" ammo in a surplus Russian
rifle. I'm shooting Taiwanese ammo in a high quality American rifle. :)

You're welcome to your Mosins. I understand they can be decent rifles.
They're just not appealing to me. I don't like the way they look, or
their length, or their avoirdupois. They remind me of the old Sov style
blocks of apartment buildings...big, ugly, heavy, and no sense of style.
:)

--
Proud to be a Liberal.

Mucho Loco February 5th 15 02:01 PM

Don't throw snowballs at each other if...
 
On Thu, 05 Feb 2015 08:45:36 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/5/15 8:33 AM, Mucho Loco wrote:
On Thu, 05 Feb 2015 06:46:23 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/4/15 9:55 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 04 Feb 2015 19:33:28 -0500, Someone Else
wrote:

Where do you find steel bullets?

The Russians and Chinese load "bimetal" ammo that is somewhat magnetic
but it is not really "steel". I tore down a "Brown Bear" 9mm a week or
so ago and the jacket is not really that hard. I also posted a link to
a 10,000 round test where they showed that it cuts barrel life in half
(5000 rounds vs 10,000 in the .223s they tested). When they factored
in the price of a barrel against the savings on ammo, it was a wash. I
imagine the effect is less in a slower round.

If you trade in guns as fast as Harry does, I doubt he would ever
notice.



Those who are interested in the composition of bullets might find this
interesting:

http://www.uspsa.org/front-sight-mag...BiMetal-Ammo-8

It's not just the cost of the barrel, by the way. A top quality HBAR is
at least $350 and in my case, I'd also have to buy a low-pro gas block
and probably have to have the barrel dimpled to hold the gas block set
screws, since my current gas block is more properly pinned through the
bottom wall of the barrel. That's another $50. Then there is the cost of
getting a qualified gunsmith to headspace the barrel. That's another $50
or more. By the time you've finished, you've spent $500 for a quality
replacement barrel. The steel cased ammo is a nickel a round less than
the brass ammo. I'll pass on that "savings" in order not to have to
deal with replacing a barrel long before its time. Oh, and I can shoot
the brass ammo on any range where rifles are welcomed.


You're not shooting 7.62X54R. The savings with that ammo is much more significant.

Oh, and for the price of your new barrel, I could easily buy a couple more Mosin
Nagants and have ammo money left over!



No, I'm not shooting a "Russian caliber" ammo in a surplus Russian
rifle. I'm shooting Taiwanese ammo in a high quality American rifle. :)

You're welcome to your Mosins. I understand they can be decent rifles.
They're just not appealing to me. I don't like the way they look, or
their length, or their avoirdupois. They remind me of the old Sov style
blocks of apartment buildings...big, ugly, heavy, and no sense of style.
:)


Actually, I'm glad.

If you had a Mosin Nagant, we'd be hearing nothing but how much better yours is.

I can see the pictures now:

http://tinyurl.com/ny8lx8p

Don't buy one. Please!
--

Guns don't cause problems. The behavior
of certain gun owners causes problems.

Keyser Söze February 5th 15 02:08 PM

Don't throw snowballs at each other if...
 
On 2/5/15 9:01 AM, Mucho Loco wrote:

You're not shooting 7.62X54R. The savings with that ammo is much more significant.

Oh, and for the price of your new barrel, I could easily buy a couple more Mosin
Nagants and have ammo money left over!



No, I'm not shooting a "Russian caliber" ammo in a surplus Russian
rifle. I'm shooting Taiwanese ammo in a high quality American rifle. :)

You're welcome to your Mosins. I understand they can be decent rifles.
They're just not appealing to me. I don't like the way they look, or
their length, or their avoirdupois. They remind me of the old Sov style
blocks of apartment buildings...big, ugly, heavy, and no sense of style.
:)


Actually, I'm glad.

If you had a Mosin Nagant, we'd be hearing nothing but how much better yours is.

I can see the pictures now:

http://tinyurl.com/ny8lx8p

Don't buy one. Please!


I'm happy enough with my "old school" Winchester 1892. It's slim,
beautifully finished, the wood is elegant, it's a handy length, and it's
lightweight. It's a carbine. Shoots nicely, too.

http://tinyurl.com/npaa25b


--
Proud to be a Liberal.

Mucho Loco February 5th 15 02:52 PM

Don't throw snowballs at each other if...
 
On Thu, 05 Feb 2015 09:08:43 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/5/15 9:01 AM, Mucho Loco wrote:

You're not shooting 7.62X54R. The savings with that ammo is much more significant.

Oh, and for the price of your new barrel, I could easily buy a couple more Mosin
Nagants and have ammo money left over!



No, I'm not shooting a "Russian caliber" ammo in a surplus Russian
rifle. I'm shooting Taiwanese ammo in a high quality American rifle. :)

You're welcome to your Mosins. I understand they can be decent rifles.
They're just not appealing to me. I don't like the way they look, or
their length, or their avoirdupois. They remind me of the old Sov style
blocks of apartment buildings...big, ugly, heavy, and no sense of style.
:)


Actually, I'm glad.

If you had a Mosin Nagant, we'd be hearing nothing but how much better yours is.

I can see the pictures now:

http://tinyurl.com/ny8lx8p

Don't buy one. Please!


I'm happy enough with my "old school" Winchester 1892. It's slim,
beautifully finished, the wood is elegant, it's a handy length, and it's
lightweight. It's a carbine. Shoots nicely, too.

http://tinyurl.com/npaa25b


Yeah, I like my Winchester 94 for the same reasons. But it's not as much fun to shoot
as the Mosin Nagant.
--

Guns don't cause problems. The behavior
of certain gun owners causes problems.


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