On Sunday, February 1, 2015 at 3:39:57 PM UTC-8, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/1/15 6:23 PM, Tim wrote:
On Sunday, February 1, 2015 at 5:57:16 AM UTC-8, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/31/15 10:18 PM, Tim wrote:
On Saturday, January 31, 2015 at 6:16:24 PM UTC-8, Wayne. B wrote:
On Sat, 31 Jan 2015 20:55:23 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/31/15 7:50 PM, Tim wrote:
On Saturday, January 31, 2015 at 4:28:42 PM UTC-8, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/31/15 6:03 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 31 Jan 2015 16:49:29 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

3. Three of the times I "stood up to authority" to help the oppressed
resulted in me getting shot at, once while reporting on and
participating in a black voter registration drive in the 1960s in the
deep south, once while working for land reform in Central America, and
once while helping organize oil rig supply ship crews.

===

Tell us more about this "land reform" in Central America. Does that
mean that you were trying to take land away from whom it legally
belonged and give it to someone else? That sounds like some kind of
Robin Hood adventure to me although it's hard to imagine your fat ass
in green tights and carrying a bow and arrow. Sounds like you were
ahead of your time and should have waited for Hugo Chavez in
Venezuela. His little adventure in socialism and seizing the assets
of others isn't turning out very well though.


Legally belonged? That's funny. In much of Central America, land was
stolen from the indigent people by the oligarchy, aided by the military
and sometimes aided by the good old USA, not unlike it was done in this
country, eh?

Tell me all about it, white eyes...


So, you have no compassion for these abused indigent people? Sad.

===

Whoosh... :-)

yeah. woosh...


I had no idea you were a Native American, Tim. Are you the last of the
Mohicans?

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Harry, that's not worth a reasonable reply.


Tim, I have no idea what your ethnic background might be, nor does it
matter to me. I was wondering about your "white eyes" comment, though.

--
Proud to be a Liberal.

Speaking of championing 'injustice' - Well lets just say that there's probably a good chance that you are living freely on land stolen from my ancestry.

On 2/1/15 6:53 PM, Tim wrote:
On Sunday, February 1, 2015 at 3:39:57 PM UTC-8, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/1/15 6:23 PM, Tim wrote:
On Sunday, February 1, 2015 at 5:57:16 AM UTC-8, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/31/15 10:18 PM, Tim wrote:
On Saturday, January 31, 2015 at 6:16:24 PM UTC-8, Wayne. B wrote:
On Sat, 31 Jan 2015 20:55:23 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/31/15 7:50 PM, Tim wrote:
On Saturday, January 31, 2015 at 4:28:42 PM UTC-8, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/31/15 6:03 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 31 Jan 2015 16:49:29 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

3. Three of the times I "stood up to authority" to help the oppressed
resulted in me getting shot at, once while reporting on and
participating in a black voter registration drive in the 1960s in the
deep south, once while working for land reform in Central America, and
once while helping organize oil rig supply ship crews.

===

Tell us more about this "land reform" in Central America. Does that
mean that you were trying to take land away from whom it legally
belonged and give it to someone else? That sounds like some kind of
Robin Hood adventure to me although it's hard to imagine your fat ass
in green tights and carrying a bow and arrow. Sounds like you were
ahead of your time and should have waited for Hugo Chavez in
Venezuela. His little adventure in socialism and seizing the assets
of others isn't turning out very well though.


Legally belonged? That's funny. In much of Central America, land was
stolen from the indigent people by the oligarchy, aided by the military
and sometimes aided by the good old USA, not unlike it was done in this
country, eh?

Tell me all about it, white eyes...


So, you have no compassion for these abused indigent people? Sad.

===

Whoosh... :-)

yeah. woosh...


I had no idea you were a Native American, Tim. Are you the last of the
Mohicans?

--
Proud to be a Liberal.

Harry, that's not worth a reasonable reply.


Tim, I have no idea what your ethnic background might be, nor does it
matter to me. I was wondering about your "white eyes" comment, though.

--
Proud to be a Liberal.

Speaking of championing 'injustice' - Well lets just say that there's probably a good chance that you are living freely on land stolen from my ancestry.


Well, in the early 17th Century, John Smith wrote that the few “native
Americans” he encountered were Pawtuxunt, Mattapenient and
Acquintanacksnak, but there have been very few excavations that have
yielded definitive results. Apparently some of the earlier tribes
considered ancestral bones sacred and moved them when they moved. The
sites near where we live might be underwater, because the sea levels in
the Bay and other shorelines have risen dramatically in the last few
thousand years.

There doesn’t seem to be much evidence of displacement by “white eyes”
of native peoples right around here.

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Proud to be a Liberal.

On 2/1/2015 6:48 PM, Tim wrote:
On Saturday, January 31, 2015 at 3:59:07 AM UTC-8, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/30/15 11:32 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 14:55:59 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/30/15 2:32 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 13:10:06 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/30/15 12:52 PM, wrote:

Bloomberg isn't spending his money to promote voter suppression,
backwards, overly religious candidates, and regressive legislation as
the Kochs are.

No, he wants to take your assault rifles away from you.

I support most of Bloomberg's
efforts to tighten up firearms laws on illegal possession,

One of them is eliminating civilian ownership of guns like your ARs.


So? If it came to pass, I'd do what was required. I'm a gun hobbyist,
not a crazed NRA gun nutsie.

So you would just turn it in and take the $50 the government said was
just compensation?


I'm certainly *not* going to try to hold off federal or local law
enforcement agents...I'll leave that to Wayne, who said here he would in
order to retain possession of his firearms.

I'd rather give them up and then go to the beach. Firearms are a hobby
for me.

--
Proud to be a Liberal.



I agree with Thomas Jefferson

"The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in Government... The constitutions of most of our States assert that all power is inherent in the people; that... it is their right and duty to be at all times armed"
Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826)


Tim, that's a wonderful historical statement, true for it's time. It's
more of a tradition now though. I don't care how many guns are
privately owned, there's no way they could be used to fend off the US
military if our government somehow decided to become "tyrannical".
Heck, they can't agree on how many sugars to put in a coffee.

On 2/1/15 7:15 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/1/2015 6:48 PM, Tim wrote:
On Saturday, January 31, 2015 at 3:59:07 AM UTC-8, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/30/15 11:32 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 14:55:59 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/30/15 2:32 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 13:10:06 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/30/15 12:52 PM, wrote:

Bloomberg isn't spending his money to promote voter suppression,
backwards, overly religious candidates, and regressive
legislation as
the Kochs are.

No, he wants to take your assault rifles away from you.

I support most of Bloomberg's
efforts to tighten up firearms laws on illegal possession,

One of them is eliminating civilian ownership of guns like your ARs.


So? If it came to pass, I'd do what was required. I'm a gun hobbyist,
not a crazed NRA gun nutsie.

So you would just turn it in and take the $50 the government said was
just compensation?


I'm certainly *not* going to try to hold off federal or local law
enforcement agents...I'll leave that to Wayne, who said here he would in
order to retain possession of his firearms.

I'd rather give them up and then go to the beach. Firearms are a hobby
for me.

--
Proud to be a Liberal.



I agree with Thomas Jefferson

"The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and
bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny
in Government... The constitutions of most of our States assert that
all power is inherent in the people; that... it is their right and
duty to be at all times armed"
Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826)


Tim, that's a wonderful historical statement, true for it's time. It's
more of a tradition now though. I don't care how many guns are
privately owned, there's no way they could be used to fend off the US
military if our government somehow decided to become "tyrannical". Heck,
they can't agree on how many sugars to put in a coffee.





In most reasonably populated counties, the gun guys couldn't fend off
the sheriff's department.

Even in my "heavily gun controlled state," the Staties aren't interested
with my plan to build a semi-auto rifle in a caliber heavier than .223/5.56.


--
Proud to be a Liberal.

On 2/1/15 7:20 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 01 Feb 2015 18:39:54 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 2/1/15 6:23 PM, Tim wrote:

I had no idea you were a Native American, Tim. Are you the last of the
Mohicans?

--
Proud to be a Liberal.

Harry, that's not worth a reasonable reply.


Tim, I have no idea what your ethnic background might be, nor does it
matter to me. I was wondering about your "white eyes" comment, though.


It is fairly safe to assume anyone with fairly deep midwestern roots
has some Cherokee blood. Other tribes will laugh at white guys who
talk about it tho.
It was hard to find a pure blooded Cherokee 100 years ago according to
the "indian affairs" people who analysed my father's family during the
depression. Most people's computations are flawed about how "Cherokee"
they really are. They had been mixing it up long before they left the
Carolinas.


Yeah, my wife definitely has Cherokee ancestors from and a few relatives
still living in northwestern North Carolina. The ancestors married into
her English, Irish, German lines.

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Proud to be a Liberal.

On 2/1/2015 6:53 PM, Tim wrote:
On Sunday, February 1, 2015 at 3:39:57 PM UTC-8, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/1/15 6:23 PM, Tim wrote:
On Sunday, February 1, 2015 at 5:57:16 AM UTC-8, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/31/15 10:18 PM, Tim wrote:
On Saturday, January 31, 2015 at 6:16:24 PM UTC-8, Wayne. B wrote:
On Sat, 31 Jan 2015 20:55:23 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/31/15 7:50 PM, Tim wrote:
On Saturday, January 31, 2015 at 4:28:42 PM UTC-8, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/31/15 6:03 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 31 Jan 2015 16:49:29 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

3. Three of the times I "stood up to authority" to help the oppressed
resulted in me getting shot at, once while reporting on and
participating in a black voter registration drive in the 1960s in the
deep south, once while working for land reform in Central America, and
once while helping organize oil rig supply ship crews.

===

Tell us more about this "land reform" in Central America. Does that
mean that you were trying to take land away from whom it legally
belonged and give it to someone else? That sounds like some kind of
Robin Hood adventure to me although it's hard to imagine your fat ass
in green tights and carrying a bow and arrow. Sounds like you were
ahead of your time and should have waited for Hugo Chavez in
Venezuela. His little adventure in socialism and seizing the assets
of others isn't turning out very well though.


Legally belonged? That's funny. In much of Central America, land was
stolen from the indigent people by the oligarchy, aided by the military
and sometimes aided by the good old USA, not unlike it was done in this
country, eh?

Tell me all about it, white eyes...


So, you have no compassion for these abused indigent people? Sad.

===

Whoosh... :-)

yeah. woosh...


I had no idea you were a Native American, Tim. Are you the last of the
Mohicans?

--
Proud to be a Liberal.

Harry, that's not worth a reasonable reply.


Tim, I have no idea what your ethnic background might be, nor does it
matter to me. I was wondering about your "white eyes" comment, though.

--
Proud to be a Liberal.

Speaking of championing 'injustice' - Well lets just say that there's probably a good chance that you are living freely on land stolen from my ancestry.


Well then... Harry should give you all of his imaginary stuff

On 2/1/15 7:28 PM, KC wrote:
On 2/1/2015 6:53 PM, Tim wrote:
On Sunday, February 1, 2015 at 3:39:57 PM UTC-8, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/1/15 6:23 PM, Tim wrote:
On Sunday, February 1, 2015 at 5:57:16 AM UTC-8, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/31/15 10:18 PM, Tim wrote:
On Saturday, January 31, 2015 at 6:16:24 PM UTC-8, Wayne. B wrote:
On Sat, 31 Jan 2015 20:55:23 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/31/15 7:50 PM, Tim wrote:
On Saturday, January 31, 2015 at 4:28:42 PM UTC-8, Keyser Söze
wrote:
On 1/31/15 6:03 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 31 Jan 2015 16:49:29 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

3. Three of the times I "stood up to authority" to help the
oppressed
resulted in me getting shot at, once while reporting on and
participating in a black voter registration drive in the
1960s in the
deep south, once while working for land reform in Central
America, and
once while helping organize oil rig supply ship crews.

===

Tell us more about this "land reform" in Central America.
Does that
mean that you were trying to take land away from whom it legally
belonged and give it to someone else? That sounds like some
kind of
Robin Hood adventure to me although it's hard to imagine your
fat ass
in green tights and carrying a bow and arrow. Sounds like
you were
ahead of your time and should have waited for Hugo Chavez in
Venezuela. His little adventure in socialism and seizing the
assets
of others isn't turning out very well though.


Legally belonged? That's funny. In much of Central America,
land was
stolen from the indigent people by the oligarchy, aided by the
military
and sometimes aided by the good old USA, not unlike it was
done in this
country, eh?

Tell me all about it, white eyes...


So, you have no compassion for these abused indigent people? Sad.

===

Whoosh... :-)

yeah. woosh...


I had no idea you were a Native American, Tim. Are you the last of the
Mohicans?

--
Proud to be a Liberal.

Harry, that's not worth a reasonable reply.


Tim, I have no idea what your ethnic background might be, nor does it
matter to me. I was wondering about your "white eyes" comment, though.

--
Proud to be a Liberal.

Speaking of championing 'injustice' - Well lets just say that there's
probably a good chance that you are living freely on land stolen from
my ancestry.


Well then... Harry should give you all of his imaginary stuff


Can't control yourself, eh? Too bad.

--
Proud to be a Liberal.

Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/1/15 6:48 PM, Tim wrote:
On Saturday, January 31, 2015 at 3:59:07 AM UTC-8, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/30/15 11:32 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 14:55:59 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/30/15 2:32 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 13:10:06 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/30/15 12:52 PM, wrote:

Bloomberg isn't spending his money to promote voter suppression,
backwards, overly religious candidates, and regressive legislation as
the Kochs are.

No, he wants to take your assault rifles away from you.

I support most of Bloomberg's
efforts to tighten up firearms laws on illegal possession,

One of them is eliminating civilian ownership of guns like your ARs.


So? If it came to pass, I'd do what was required. I'm a gun hobbyist,
not a crazed NRA gun nutsie.

So you would just turn it in and take the $50 the government said was
just compensation?


I'm certainly *not* going to try to hold off federal or local law
enforcement agents...I'll leave that to Wayne, who said here he would in
order to retain possession of his firearms.

I'd rather give them up and then go to the beach. Firearms are a hobby
for me.

--
Proud to be a Liberal.

I agree with Thomas Jefferson

"The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and
bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in
Government... The constitutions of most of our States assert that all
power is inherent in the people; that... it is their right and duty to
be at all times armed"
Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826)


Good. You and Wayne hold off the police/military forces as long as you
can while I enjoy the beach.


Do not have to shoot the lower level people.

wrote:
On Sun, 01 Feb 2015 19:15:13 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


Tim, that's a wonderful historical statement, true for it's time. It's
more of a tradition now though. I don't care how many guns are
privately owned, there's no way they could be used to fend off the US
military if our government somehow decided to become "tyrannical".
Heck, they can't agree on how many sugars to put in a coffee.


Considering the number of conservative southerners and westerners who
are actually the ones to join the military, why would you think they
would fight the citizens if the government became tyrannical?
You would be more likely to have a military coup.

I agree a few thousand guys in a compound somewhere will not stand
much of a chance but a million well armed guys could cause some
serious problems. Particularity if the military was less than
enthusiastic in quelling them.

Our military is yet to win a single "asymmetric" war even when they
were motivated to do it..

Because it worked out so well for the South the last time southerners took
on the Union army.
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On Sunday, February 1, 2015 at 7:26:48 PM UTC-8, wrote:
On Sun, 01 Feb 2015 19:09:26 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

There doesn't seem to be much evidence of displacement by "white eyes"
of native peoples right around here.

Who do you think was living on the East coast in the early 17th
century? It certainly wasn't a bunch of Europeans.

Do you really think they left of their own volition?

Yeah, Greg. Somebody stole it from somebody else