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On Tue, 27 Jan 2015 14:30:23 -0600, Califbill
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On Mon, 26 Jan 2015 21:18:26 -0600, Califbill
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On Mon, 26 Jan 2015 20:51:17 -0500, Gene Kearns
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And it is a Federal Requirement to placard the dispensing pump. It is
illegal to burn E15 in boats!

http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/ethanol.shtml



Ethanol is the biggest scam since the chlorophyll craze in the 50s.
The corn farmers want corn in everything and they figured out how to
get it in your car.

A real ecologist would point out it is worse than gasoline on several
counts, not to mention the depletion of the Ogalalla aquifer.
When that water is gone, we will forget there was ever an oil
"crisis".

If alcohol was such a good thing, we would drop tariffs on imported cane
sugar and it's products. And the poor could afford to eat corn products.
Been riots in Mexico over the cost of corn tortillas. Due to the oil
required to grow corn and refine it, there is less than a 5% energy gain.
9 times as much alcohol from equal acreage of sugar cane to corn.

The problem with that is sugar cane carries it's own ecological
damage.
You only have to look at what it is doing to the Everglades.

But a cane plantation is probably as environment rntally friendly as a corn
farm.

You must not know much about sugar.

To start with they burn the field before harvest and then they flood
the field afterwards and that "runnoft" (movie reference) is what
causes a lot of that pollution. (Look at "back pumping" in Lake
Okeechobee)
They also use at least as much if not more fertilizer,
Most of these sugar plantations are on reclaimed wet lands, including
in the US.

According to the people I talked to Australia last year, who are in the
cane area. No burning. And why flood afterwards? No ash to get rid of.
Hawaii actually dug a ditch and tunnels to bring eater to the cane fields
way back when. You can now do a ditch kayak trip on the Big Island.