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On 12/10/2014 1:52 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 12/10/14 1:14 PM, Boating All Out wrote: In article , says... That's the problem with people like BOA. He selectively ignores some things if it doesn't serve his argument. The trouble with "people like Luddite" is they can't help dragging partisan politics into a subject titled "Torturing SOB's." There is plenty of debate going on about the release of this report and it's not limited to the right-leaning media outlets. Even MSNBC has raised some questions regarding the motivations of Feinstien and her committee. The committee never bothered interviewing any of the people who were actually involved in the interrogation program as research for the report. It started as a conclusion which then had to be justified with selectively chosen accusations and facts. You are correct. Many of the same people were chastising the CIA for not doing enough shortly after 9/11. Finger pointing and evading responsibility. That's all. You just evade the point of my post, which is that U.S. Government engaged in widespread torture. Maybe you don't believe it happened. Or maybe you think it's okay. But you want to get into political ****-slinging. I don't. Sorry about that. You can argue politics with Scotty. Go right ahead. We used to be able to claim the high moral ground because even in warfare, we supposedly did not engage in war-making on civilians to the extent our "enemies" did. World War II put that claim to death, of course, with our massive bombings of mostly civilian parts of cities in Germany and Japan, and the horrors we perpetrated on Vietnamese civilians. I was recently reading about some of the lead up events to WWII, mainly because some of the current global issues especially with regard to Russia and Putin are somewhat similar. Japan was pushed into a corner big time with sanctions, etc. Roosevelt faced stiff domestic opposition to entering the war. He tried to goad Germany into attacking a US convoy transporting aid to Great Britain to create a justification for a war declaration. The Germans didn't fall for the trap. Instead, sanctions imposed on Japan were stiffened, leading to the so-called "surprise" attack on Pearl Harbor. Most historians are now of the opinion that it wasn't a surprise. It was anticipated. |
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